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tv   Gaza Under Attack  : PRESSTV  November 10, 2023 12:02am-12:31am IRST

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this is gaza under attack, coming to you from the british capital. i'm said pureza, with you for some of the biggest talking points coming out of the continued bombardment of the palestinians in the besieg coastal enclave. palestinians living in gaza have endured another night of israeli bombardment as the death will mounts by the hour. hospitals are under increasing pressure with early morning israeli strike near the indonesian hospital in northern gaza. the international committee of there at cross has condem attack on one of its convoys carrying
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supplies for medical facilities in the territory, it all comes as the war enters its of second month, and as the israeli regime's troops enter the center of gaza city. the g7 meeting in tokyo, japan fails to call for an immediate ceasefire under pressure from the us and the regime in tel aviv. meanwhile, pro-palestinian solidarity continues to gain momentum with number of countries kicking out israeli ambassadors and mass rallies being held around the world, including here in the uk where another mass demonstration is planned for november 11th against the backdrop of hostile messaging from the government and far right groups. a lot to unpack there and joining me to do just that. palestinian american activist bayan jaber and via skype political analyst batul subedi. thank you both for being here. let me start with you uh bayan. you have personally experienced displacement at the hands of the israeli regime. more than 10,000 people kit,
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lot of them women and children. i want to get your reaction to these figures and what we have seen unfold in the past month. i mean it's absolutely disheartening, it's it's actually infuriating, and um, we're now entering over 30 days of live genocide. we're witnessing this on social media, we're witnessing it um, through your the press tv journalists or the press journalists in palestine in occupied god. a strip and you know we we, it's time for a ceasefire, enough is enough, um, yeah, it's absolutely disheartening. batul, same question to you, over 10,00 people dead, and still no cease fire? um, america is slow with the seasfire because of the magnitude of the blow of october 7th, essentially they want to res, they want to reverse the power shift on the ground that has secured points um of victory for the resistance, they aren't able to achieve anything on the ground though, so they're simply blood lust. instead, because
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that's ultimately the easiest and the only thing that they're able to do. look, the situation won't come down if the occupation entity has not achieved any military objective of some kind. that might be killing a resistance leader, that might be reaching tunnels in hazza and destroying them, it might be releasing hostages, but they're simply afraid of confrontation, that's that's the reality. the occupation army have defeated morale um and so the situation will only come down when they're desperately hopeless of achieving everything or anything after they've substantially tried and failed, um, it will also come down when the americans decide that their wider interests in the region are slipping from their fingers, you know, when the arab rulers are severely affected, you know, if the arab nations actively mobilize, in particular egypt, in particular jordan, in relation to the geneside that's unfolding, and you know if in yemen and in iraq, the hashid targeting expands, in addition to syria where they're targeting them basis, um of the american basis and in lebanon, if they feel that there's a big escalation coming from there
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that they don't want, that's when they will call for the ceasefire, but ultimately the involvement of the resistance in lebanon depends on two things, it depends on the extent of america's intervention and the occupation entity in lebanon, and the extent of the pressure in gazza. uh, the pressure on the resistance in gaza means expansion of the fronts. that's something that the leader of the resistance in lebanon outlined in his speech last week, and the reality is that they're simply unable to expand the world, the sionist entity has no ability and and and they've stressed that they are living their work. stays because of that um and they're not interested in expanding the fronts and one last thing that we have to also consider is the internal pressure that will come uh from the zionist population itself, that fracture that may prompt a ceasefire, you have thousands that are protesting in the capital of the occupation entity against the government due to not negotiating hostage release, and the entity has gone from saying that you know there will be no cease fire until we uproot the resistance in hazar to until the... are released, so they themselves
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are deescalating due to their military defeat. um, let me ask you this question, byan, the the way arab countries have responded. to this crisis so far, what do you think of that? um, i think it's short of standard, um, i think we should be doing lot more, we should be doing lot more than just um expelling our israeli ambassadors, um, we should be doing lot more than just these peace process talks where majority of the time palestinians are not even included and they're the integral stakeholders when it comes to you know maintaining um the sovereignty of palestinians and and humanizing. so it's absolutely short of standard for sure. um, just like you said, talks, meetings of palestinians are not included. um, bato, we we saw the g7 meeting in in tokyo, japan, and what we heard again
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was call for humanitarian pause, not a sease fire, although we understand that lot of the g7 uh countries. are in favor of a ceasefire, but there's a lot of pressure from the americans and the israelis um on them, you know, they have been convinced apparently of the american stance on it, and they too have come out calling for just the humanitarian uh pause, but the point i'm trying to make or ask you is that these are socal big powers around the world, making decisions for palestinians and how they should live their lives without including unians in any of those meetings? look, there is no going back from october the 7th, that completely shifted the balance of powers on the ground. that dealt a blow to the occupation entity, why? because it ultimately shattered its moral. you know, we're talking about the resistance targeting the depth of the 1948 borders and
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expect that also to be feature of the resistance from now on moving forward, you know, that's um essentially equation on the ground that it has established through october the 7th, and ultimately what the americans want to do... is the reason they're not calling for seas fire is because they want to allow the occupation to have some time to achieve some kind of military objective so that they can reverse the success of the resistance and we have to understand that the resistance is securing point by point victory until the liberation of palestine, that's the magnitude that we're talking about, so ultimately those political solutions of the west are redundant because it's not accounting for the real force of action on the ground. for the resistance, the idea was that the knocking effects of october the 7th would kick in, in such a way that it would trickle on the settleers moral who will pack up their bags and leave such that it will cripple the economy, we know already the occupation entity has suffered $13 billion dollars in losses as a result of october the
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7th and what insued after um and that chaos will ultimately disintegrate the occupation entity foundationally um and so in the resistance is mind it's like the next phase of confrontation will further weaken it until that's cis of blow is caught, and this will continue until victory is achieved, and it's been 32 days and the occupation has been unable to end, and we have to understand that it is america that is strategizing the war on behalf of the zionist entity because it is so weak, so existentially the resistance has the upper hand and the occupation entity is ultimately threatened, so all of these political solutions that we can sit down and talk about such as you know uprouting the um resistance from. for example in order to uh basically create a security situation for hazar where the pa from the west bank might take control or to remove the husens to the sai peninsula or the west bank population to jordan, that is all redundant, these are political proposals that they have in mind,
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but it's hinged on the idea of actually achieving some kind of strategic military um objectives on the ground, none of which have been achieved by the zionist entity. i want to come back to that uh in a little while, but let's hear more from the americans, on tuesday, the white house reiterated that president joe biden does not support in israel the occupation of the gaza strip, once the r ends, the war ends, we heard the the secretary of state anthony blincon say exactly the same thing, um, the administration stands only day after israel's prime minister benjamin netanyahu said an interview that tel aviv would have a role to play in the strip for quote unquote indefinite period. national security spokesman john kirby faced the white house media pack to outline washington's stands. have a listen. we're also keeping in our thoughts and prayers this one month in, the
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many many thousands of innocent palestinians who have been killed in the conflict since october 7th, and the many more uh who are injured and wounded. uh in the conduct of this of these operations and quite frankly the million and a half that have been displaced internally from their homes uh we're we're mindful of... that suffering as well, and one month in, it's good for everybody to take eke a pause and remember uh the scope of the suffering here and and the the terrible images many of us have seen coming out of both israel and ghaza. let the prime minister speak to his comments and what he meant by indefinite. president biden's been very clear, we don't support a reoccupation of gaza by the israeli defense forces. we do think that there needs to be uh healthy set of conversations about what post-conflict gaza looks. like and what governance looks like, what we absolutely agree with our israeli counterparts on is what it can't look like, and it can't look
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like it looked on october 6th. well, john kirby, the man who uh, ban who choked up talking about uh ukrainian uh troops or people uh being killed in the uh in the war there, with no such emotion when it came to the thousands of palestinians who have um died, been killed, um, wiped off the face of the earth in israeli um incessent attacks. um, so we heard the american position, again we have the israelis, the uh prime minister saying they will have control of security in gaza. how do we reconcile these um two things, both the israelis and us officials, opposing um the reoccupation of gaza, but at the same time israel is saying, we're going to have overall security control. i think. at the end of the day, america is just doing damage control at the end of the day for israel, um, and i think you know their
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continued uh funding of the israel, uh, their continued vetoing at the un of humanitarian sease fire, only shows more uh, um, approval towards the actions that israel has taken against obviously palestinians and gazza, it's they're obviously showing that they are complicit. in fact um towards the dehumanization of palestinians, as you said, he was choking up when he um spoke about the ukrainian loss of life, um, but when it comes to palestinians, it's almost as if it's just collateral damage, collateral damage, they're just you know something that were just in the wrong place at the wrong time, instead of you, recognizing that these were people who had hopes, had dreams, um, who deserved to be alive, right, to to... um see their children grow up and and yeah, it's an absolute slap
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in the face, the united states is the architect of what is happening, um to the palestinians in gaza and the west bank, that the us, the way it's been going around buying time for the israel so that israel can achieve some kind of victory to reverse what the palestinians have achieved on october 7th as well as the the resilience that they have exhibited under con is really bombardment um so far again it just so it it goes to show that the us is complicit in um this ongoing genocide this ongoing ethnic cleansing and displacement of palestinians um yeah thank you and uh battul is america's role as a dishonest broker in this situation um making these platitudes um tougher to to swallow? kind of stuff we hear them say about what we heard kirby say earlier about palestinian loss loss of life for sure i mean we have to
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remember that the occupation entity was established as a stable military base the size of a country to serve as a disciplinary stick for the western superpower it is uh the creation of the west simply to serve their interest in a region of strategic importance and never can the zinst entity disobey its masters that is the reality of the relationship dynamic and the american intervention has everything to do with calming the tensions, ensuring that escalation does not occur um and then not calling for a cfire at this moment, as we mentioned, to not only allow the uh occupation satisfy is brutal revenge and huzza, but also to await that strategic military objective that can uh reverse the the equation uh of the resistance, but the reality is that it is america that is managing this battle on behalf of the occupation entity, it's sent its warships, it's even sent its delta forces to has specifically a special mission to rescue the hostages, why? because the occupation is weak, because it is unable to fight its own.
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so um, there's a really important point over here, and that is that the west was not prepared for this war. it's not, neither is it's top priority, i would argue, you know, it's top priority, it's actually its foreign policy relating to uh fighting russia through its proxy war in ukraine. um, america has made it clear, it's it's not seeking the expansion of this confrontation into a comprehensive war, it's unwilling to to fight. battle for the collapsing entity, but the reality is that the occupation entity is increasingly becoming redundant, it is weak, it is fragile, politics on power and ability, politics is not this kind of charity, and we have to understand that the occupy entity is a colonial outpost that is 7.5 decades old, with the evolution of development and interests, you expect policies to change, you know, the west knows that through this entity it is dealing based on the continuation of old policies, and the reality is that for the
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longest time designers entity in front of everyone's eyes seemed to be strong, why? because there was no force that was confronting it, but now what you have is forces from nations in the region who don't accept the imposed american hegemony, they have formed as a reaction to western makinations such as unleashing daesh, as a result of daesh, you got the hashd shabi in iraq, as a result of the brutal saudi blocade in yemen, you got the hutis, um, it's that policy of hegemany and work to to monopolize these resistance forces that led to the cohesion of these forces in the first place to continue agitating these. forces, so really america through its strategy in the region is shooting itself in the foots and i would argue even with the countries that have normalized tires with the zionist entity, whether it's egypt, whether it's jordan, we saw the mass demonstrations in jordan which effectively forced uh the jordanian establishment to recall its ambassador from the occupation entity um and and vice versa,
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you know, so both ambassador, but the jordanian ambassador to the zinest entity um were basically recalled, and that is because the mounting pressure of the nations, so i do believe and i would not even be surprised if after this confrontation you might see other countries like egypt, like tunisia, like algeria, like jordan, expressing interest in somewhat being involved as part of this resistance access that is really walking the talk whilst the arab nations are lowering their heads in shame because they are effectively tools and puppets of the west and that is stringing them along to serve their strategy. tools and puppets of the west. stay with me, ladies, we're going to hear from the south african minister naledi panduor, reiterating on tuesday that her country demands an immediate, comprehensive cefire and opening of humanitarian corridors in gaza. her coming commons came after south africa joined several other nations by recalling its ambassador and diplomatic
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mission to israel in condemnation of the bombardment of the gaza strip, calling it genocide. honorable. members oder, the collective punishment that israel is exacting on all palestinian people is affront that has gone on for too long. the world has expressed horror at these affronts, but has not acted effectively to save palestinian lives. sadly, even here in our own country, there are many who choose to turn a blind eye to these. atrocities as an occupiing power, israel can use tools applicable to the rule of law, including policing powers to deal with criminal actions in the area it occupies, an occupiing state cannot exercise control over territory, it occupies and simultaneously
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attack that territory on the claim that it is foreign and poses exogenous. national security threat. as south africans, we need to raise our voices and call for the following concrete actions to end the suffering: one, an immediate comprehensive, two, the opening of humanitarian corridors so that aid and other basic services reach all in need, three, all parties to exercise restraint and to desist from fueling this patently und life coach and media personality fahima muhammad is with us for the first installment of palestine in the media. faahima start us off with how the war on gaza is being covered in how israel is trying to suffocate journalism? well that exactly we
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have mark stone a journalist on sky saying exactly what you said um we'll go straight into the video and see. he has to say right now, i should say we're not allowed there, we can't get into gaza, the israelis control access, and they haven't given us access, except a few what are called embeds facilities with their military which are highly highly controlled, they allow cnn in on condition that they hand in everything they film to the military to be reviewed before anything gets air, absolutely, censorship continues, not sharing, giving access and the world cannot see what they're doing, especially when they are cutting off. electricity and that is echoed again, we have our next video, which is um on the barbarity and brutality, absolutely, we have dr. which is a surgeon speaks about... the conditions in the hospital that he's at. we'll see that video now. last night was apparently the the heaviest night of bombardment since the beginning of the war, despite calls on the
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israeli government, including by the americans, to slow things down a bit, describe what that night was like. basically the whole building from its core would shake, and you would have salvos of three or four of these bombs and you see towards. you see that towards the distance in the direction of beach camp, the sky would just light up, because they had also switched off, the israelis had also switched off all of the communications, the ambulances were just blindly heading in the direction of the bomb, because there's no way to communicate, and so we went to the emergency department and it was scenes of absolute carnage, it's like the stuff of movie is really, it's unreal, danley connage and a sense of feeding abandonment is what? so the surgeons and doctors feel a sense of responsibility to their patients and they given no choice but to keep you know doing what they need to do for everybody
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there regardless of communications this was the same doctor was the metropolitan police show up at his door early on during this war intimidating his family absolutely in london we have the next one which is nyt opinion um it's just a tweet uh sorry instagram post new york times yeah um showing basically um an israeli human rights lawyer again saying that free speech in israel has suffered and um lot of proclaimed only democracy in the middle east the suppression of speech and targeting of critical critiques of israel's policy towards the conflict has always been a strategic goal. so again we have again the crushing of you know the actual democratic um sort of um ways of putting forward a system and values that we all see in the west, but again it's being uh, not only is israel brushing aside any and all criticism of its
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actions, not just over the past month or so, but in 75 years it is also crushing descent and any voice of criticism internally as well, absolutely, their people themselves have always had that issue, and they did just before even the 7th of october, and now we're seeing that rise again against netan yahoo and his uh government, so it is definitely echo on everything else that we seeing so far. all right, fahim muhammad, thank you very much. of course, fahamma will be back soon with more on palestine in the media in the second half of the program. just a quick reminder, this is gaza under attack, a one-hour topical show looking at some of the most important talking points emerging from the crisis. as the israel on gaza escalates, social media have become a forum for airing tensions. litifa abu chakra has been keeping an eye on that front and joins me now with some of the exchanges on there. lativa,
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welcome back. so we we're going to be looking at the uh israeli um occupation forces and something that they've been doing for the longest time, even prior to this recent aggression on gazza. they've been utilizing the the holocaust the... utilizing their previous pain um as a way of uh victimizing themselves and making themselves appear weak in public and giving them a reason to to defend um against you know the terrorism that apparently they're surrounded by uh they're being challenged on that nowadays as we're about to see you're down if you haven't been the same since october 7th and probably oh you haven't been the same since october 7th of this year well palestinians haven't been the same. since 1947, but i don't see them sitting here setting up a ring light and trying to spread atrocity propaganda. you know palestins right now are too busy trying
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to dig people out of the rouble and actually show us what's happening? huh, put finger down, put finger down, may actually show us what is happening? absolutely, um, but now people are embolden, they feel actually no, there's a red line, your face is is has been uncovered, you know, israel, we know. what you're doing, and we won't allow you anymore to utilize social media trends to kind of make yourself appear relatable to the world, no, you you are genocidal, apartite state and people are challenging them online, which is lovely to see, if there's any terrorism, it's coming from the israelis, absolutely, and what happened on october 7th, many are saying, was the oppressed standing up to their oppressers by any means necessary, as is the international right? um, what do you expect from people? you know, and even in the uk now, we're looking at what's happening in the global south is affecting the freedom of speech and the the rights of peaceful
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assembly here, in the uk, there is one woman in the uk who is um taking issue with that and um using satire to explain that she won't stand for it um as we're about to see. that clear that i will never ever condemn humus. i think that if you um, if you don't want humus in your life, if you don't want some hummus splattered over your chin, over your face. 'if you don't want your children eating hummus, i would maybe stay away from it or you know don't mash the chickpeas in the first place man, because if you put chick peas in a in a pressure cooker, you get hummuss and i think that that's got to be the message that we send out here, so i just want to say for for my sake, um, i love hamumus, i um, i feel i feel like there's a lot of freedom to be gained from humus, if i could, i'd make humus factories and fund them
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myself, so next time someone wants me to condemn humers or talk about how it's not one the greatest food groups known to man, please be aware of exactly where i stand here. i stand very firmly not just with chick peas, but also very much with this pressure cooker analogy was very interesting. she's uh, yeah, i found it like such a great example of the use of social media in a situation like this, you know, she clearly she's a mature woman, she's someone who knows where she stands. she knows what she's saying and she's taking offense at um her limitation of freedom of speech to talk about the issues um great um lativa one of the groups or i mean the people who are bearing the brunt of it all more than anybody else um are the children of gaza and as we know two-thirds of those killed so far by the israelis have been women and children
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lots of dreams lost. whatever lives cut short? what do you have to say um about that? that unfortunately children and women and the vulnerable are not recent victims of the occupation, they're not recent victims of the genocidal state of israel. um, these children have had to live in squaler, they've had to live um with very, very simple dreams and aspirations because they haven't had the ability to dream greater than that. um, have always been the victims, they are they are the first victims of any war, of any catastrophe, um, but what what reminds me, what gives me a little bit of peace and comfort is that subhan allah, these these gazzans, these these children, they are so honorable, because even in their simplicity, even in in hardness, um, during hard times, they are still able to to hope uh for better future,