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tv   SPOTLIGHT  PRESSTV  November 17, 2023 10:02pm-10:31pm IRST

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crisis, devastating wars, terrorism, the israeli lobby, crackdown, diplomacy, israel losing narrative on gaza. make sure to join the show through facebook, twitter, only on press tv.
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hello and welcome to spotlight. over the past 75 years of the occupation of the palestinian territories, the israeli regime, thanks to the biased coverage of the western mainstream media has been using propaganda and disinformation to justify its atrocities against the people of palestine in the ongoing war on. israel has once again used
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similar methods which are seen as the israelis trying to play the victim card and legitimize the genocide in gaza. it seems that the israeli regime is losing the narrative on gaza uh given the mounting global support for the palestinians and anti israel campaigns both on the streets and in social media as well. joining us on tonight's spotlight we have. zangler, author and political activist, joining us from montreal. and also spokesperson of the masar badil movement, mr. khalid barakot joining us from vancouver. gentlemen, welcome to the program. let's start off with mr. angler in montreal. uh, given the uh, the increased uh level of support that we're seeing out on the streets for the palestinian cause and the opposition.
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to the israeli war, mr. angler, would you say that the israelis have lost in the court of public opinion? uh, they've been very damaged in the court of public opinion, there is clearly millions and millions of people here in canada and tens, hundreds of millions of people around the world who no longer believe uh their their claims, their propaganda. uh, whether they've lost, i wouldn't go so far as to say that for certain, um, having the backing of the us empire and having the backing of the biggest media outlets in in north america is is - it's very powerful friends in your corner uh, but it's been incredibly damaged uh, i think there's for for anyone who's uh somewhat progressive uh they have they they're probably there's probably no going back increasingly uh support for israel is is something that you
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find among uh the more right-wing, the more openly pro-imperial, pro empire factions of canadian, us political life, and that is probably never, they're never, that's never going to change, and that process has been going on for years now, and it's been accelerated rapidly with the incredible level of violence and horrors that israels committed. against palestinians in gaza. let's see what mr. barrakot has to say about that. sir, i phrased it as the israelis losing in the court of public opinion. i want to get your thoughts on that as well, given the uh the increased level of global awareness, the worldwide support for palestinians, the opposition to the uh to the israeli war, and let's not uh forget uh all that's been happening with regards uh to the uh to the online uh and social media propaganda with the israelis, they they come up with... stories, they post videos and then
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they have to retract them and delete those videos, give us your thoughts, please, well, if we're talking about public opinion worldwide, i think that... have always won in that arena, but if we are talking about in the west, particularly because that's the real fight on public opinion in in in the western world and particularly in places like you know the united states, canada, britain, france, germany and so on and so forth, and on that level i think that in certain areas palestinian have. definitely want that public opinion, especially in places like canada, for example, three out of four canadians think that there should be a ceasefire and many of them view what's happening as an israeli aggression, do agree with eve on that
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a great damage has happened to israel narrative and designist narrative in term of you know the support of israel, even amongst, particularly amongst the younger generation, where we see more support of the palestinian people right, palestinian resistance, and that includes the many young people from jewish backgrounds, who now are more daring in expressing their support for the palestinian people, so i think it is definite. a qualitative step uh towards uh you know decisive victory in term of public opinion for palestine. mr. angler, looking at what's taking place online, when many would be calling the online propaganda efforts by the israelis where they try to portray
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themselves as as the victims and trying to justify uh the war crimes that they're committing against palestinians in gaza. there was a report basically uh by a company which was in fact pro israeli that around seven billion posts pro israeli with pro israeli tags uh were published on uh on instagram and tiktok since october 7th compared to 109 billion posts with pro-palestinian tags so that speaks volumes uh in itself break that down for us please yeah and i bet you lot of the pro israel posts are indirectly or directly paid for by israeli government or their their lobby groups, so that those numbers are are would be even more skewed if not, um, i think that has an age component to it, it's very clear that um that the younger uh generation, i've even seen that uh myself, i'm i 20 years out
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of university and there was big battles on palestine and when i was at university 20 years ago uh now uh the the pro israel crowd is is completely. unable to engage in any sort of democratic process at the university level, so for instance, the solidarity for palestinian human rights at mcgill university, has a resolution that that the students are voting on right now, an anti-genocide and palestine resolution, and the the israel supporters on campus don't even, they won't even engage in the referendum, all they doing is calling on the university administration to just ban the referendum and the university administration to put pressure on the student union that if they uh accept this this this referendum that they will lose their funding, so they know that they know that among 20-year olds uh they just can't they can't win the you know any kind of like voting uh process and i think that's somewhat we're seeing reflected
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on on the social media platforms that are particularly used by by younger people is that they they um they don't they they don't like seeing uh babies being killed by israel and ghaza and they don't have this baggage of of uh, i don't know, we call it the legacy of the nazi holocaust, uh, they they they are more multiracial, they're not as inclined towards believing that that you, white europeans are are the best and everything, they're they're always great or whatever, um, and so there's a obvious race uh dynamic to this uh, to this uh conflict, and and um, and young declined uh to believe that sort of imperial colonial ideology um so so and and the the israel lobby people they know it they're scared they they don't know what to do if you looked at that recent um israel rally in washington dc they were paying there was uh they were paying uh students $250 us
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dollars to attend to attend the demonstration and um you know obviously the palestine solidarity the anti-war forces don't have don't have those resources we have to you know pay out of pocket to take a bus down to uh to the protests um but so so they are losing uh the battle all the surveys uh killed just putted out canadian and if you look at the breaking down of canadian public opinion by age category, you find that younger, younger people are more likely to believe israel's an apartied state, by large margins they believe that that israel's an apartied state, um, so that's that's a danger from from the israel lobby's perspective going forward, this this kind of stuff is of course, sort of existential uh, threat uh going forward. mr. barrakot, as mr. engler just mentioned, more and more. people are coming to the realization that the israeli regime is uh an apartite regime in uh in
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addition to that when we look at at at the mainstream uh media narrative that the israelis usually have they throw in all kinds of twists and turns to try to justify what they're doing in gaza. they say they want to eradicate hamas, they say they're opening humanitarian corridors allowing people to move to the uh to the south of gaza, yet we see that. demonstrations for example in madrid uh in spain where uh people took to the streets showing their support for palestinians, they carried plackards reading, this is not a war, it's genocide, so people, in spite of all the the media propaganda, all the the media, the twisted media narratives, people are already recognizing this as genocide, absolutely, and it's it's it's because of struggle and because of people commit. and because of many many voices that have made this a reality, including people
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conscious, i mean, you know, when they listen to the israeli retoric and israel try to promote itself as victim, yet israel have nuclear weapon, the only country in the entire area that actually have nuclear weapon and now they're publicly threatening to use it, by ministers in this fascist government, so at the same time israel goes into this contradiction, they want to play the victim card and they want to promote themselves as very strong and advanced army that can, you know, kill babies and destroy universities and and hospitals and so on and so forth, so you don't really need to know so much history about the conflict in order to realize that what's hap happening here is a is a work run and genocide uh particularly in today's uh
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you know age of media and people have access to you know alternative narratives and you know um media outlets just imagine 25 years ago 30 years ago um in canada if if you're just you know average canadian person who wants who reads you know the global mail or couverson or you know um the national post, you're pretty much getting the same story about palestine, although there is three different newspapers, but you don't get a real alternative information, the same goes with you know tv stations, radio, so where can people actually get a real information, real you know facts, in today's age, i think with the... uh the world is changing and we see that how also palestinians are,
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especially in gazza, um, you know, they're very active in term of um communicating with the world, showing the world, what's really happening, there are also a very good writers and journalists who have access now to different media outlets, somebody like our friends eve here, you know, um, he he he writes all the time about palestine, and he have many readers, but he's not going to be welcome in the mainstream media, you know, or the you know, liberal media in this country, but now we have different forms or forums in which we can hear alternative voices and the same time we began to see a little bit of change in term of ' school curriculum, university curriculum, especially in studies
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like history, anthropology, you know, studying colonialism, studying the era of slavery, these kind of studies didn't exist, you know, few decades back, and now there's more of them, and so the younger generation, since high school, they're more exposed into you know, a more real kind of account of history, and so they come universities these days um ready to uh take a stand against apartide against colonization against these kinds of oppression not just in palestine but world. right right, and mr. engler, what about the hypocrisy that we're seeing, most notably in european countries with regards to these uh demonstrations, for example, you can burn the holy qoran, that's considered free speech, but if you would, if you were to burn an israeli flag, that would be major offense, they would arrest you, they would charge you, how do you explain that? it's uh, it's
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flagrant hypocrisy, uh, we see this in calgary here in canada a protest organizer was arrested for chanting uh from the river to the sea, palestine will be free, the the israel lobby uh while they're committing genocide, they have the media talking about how some chance for equal rights is is is genocide. there's a whole effort to ban protest here and and as you mentioned in in germany and in france, they've banned all kinds of palestine uh solidarity protests. uh, it's it's it, it's not really explainable beyond um, it's just serving power, it just speaks to how uh deferential uh those countries are to israel and to the us empire, uh, all of the rhetoric in terms of the hypocrisy, all of the rhetoric about about uh, russia violating international law and
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ukraine's right to resistance and all this kind of stuff, it's all been so crastly thrown out the window and um... israel's constant violation international law is uh is not cited, you know, we're not even, you know, we should be sending by that logic, we should be sending weapons to to palestinian resistance, um, if we're saying that with regards to russia and ukraine, but the the hypocris is just off the charts, obviously also the whole the ability to mobilize um, the the european destruction of of of of uh jury, the nazi holocaust. the ability to mobilize that on behalf of of israel's uh genocidal um policies is is pretty remarkable so you have this incredible horror that happened in in uh human history uh being used to justify this ongoing uh uh horror um so that's uh part of the equation here it's it's
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it's so cynical to see the uh israel lobby organizations do that and so many politicians go along with that uh, but that's that's part of this ability to uh to shut down uh expressions of support for the for the palestinan cause here in canada and europe and elsewhere. sure uh, mr. barrakot, many um officials, many uh diplomats uh from around the world have been blaming uh the united states and european countries uh... for for what's taking place right now, they've been many opinions have gone as far as saying that the united states is actually complicit in the war crimes that are being committed by the israeli regime. i want to get your thoughts on how do you see, how would you rate the level of involvement of the united states when we're talking about the blood of palestinian children, and uh, is the the uh
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the scenario, the notion that the united states could actually uh stop the israelis from... from carrying out to the uh incessant bombings, that could happen immediately, do you agree with that notion? absolutely, and i think the united states is actually leading this, you know war crimes and genocide against the palestinian people, they are providing israel with military support, financial support, political cover in all international arena adopting literally the zionist narrative and the israeli uh you know discourse in all levels without any you know efforts even check uh and that's because the united states inherited israel you know in the region as they inherited the the you know
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the british empire of the region and now the united states is a occupying power in the region and that's how it is being viewed by the vast majority of the people in the region that the united states is the leading factor in term of wars when we look at what happened in afghanistan in iraq in yemen, in palestine, in lebanon. in 2006, israel did not even want to go into a massive war against lebanon, they were viewing, they were calculating. think if they should do or not, but the united states and kundalisa rise have pushed and kept pushing uh to continue not just attack lebanon and just destroy the western district and you know... vast majority of the villages in in the south, but they kept pushing ihud almart then to continue his award in lebanon, and at the end israel did not achieve any of its objectives,
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the resistance in lebanon is 1,000 more strong than what it was in 2006, and i think that it's the same scenario happening today in gazza, except the the what happened is that you know gazza have no depth, the resistance is being under siege from also egypt and that's why you know the palestinian situation is much harder than in lebanon, but it's the united states who is definitely doing this, and if you ask palestinians, the vast majority of palestinians will tell you that israel and the united states are both leading this uh wars and genicide against us and this is public, you know when they ask the... as representative in the united nation, why you did not call for a ceasfire a month ago, she said, well, because the resolution that was presented by russia did
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not include the right of israel to self-defense, and first of all, it's a lie, and second of all, it's they're willing to lie publicly and keep lying in order to, you know, pressure the palestinian people to surrender. and to push palestinian resistance to surrender, and i think israel is going to fail in all of its objectives, the only thing that the united states and israel now doing now is they're just killing more palestinians destroying more, palestinis and not achieving any real political objectives. let's get a final quick question from mr. angler very briefly if you may sir, guest an analyst we spoke early. here um during one of our broadcasts said that one of the main problems internationally is that there's a lack of proper mechanism to solve the situation that's of course alloding to the likes of the
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united nations security council after 42 days the best they could come up with was just something absurd as humanitarian pauses so talk to us about that as if you may also then there's uh bodies like the icc and the icj which uh are relatively mood at least when it comes uh to the uh to the... case of the israelis at this point? yeah, uh, russia taking uh hundreds of uh ukrainian kids to russia uh led to icc uh charge uh israel killing 6,000 uh palestinian children in gaza and we haven't seen that uh move forward yesterday here in canada there was a bid to there's a serving of notice to for the... minister, foreign minister and two other ministers uh that they will be seek prosecution uh for their role in aiding and embeding uh israel's war crimes, there's been
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similar efforts in other uh uh countries, so um that i know south africa just announced that they were taking, they were calling on the international criminal court to to investigate israel's uh uh crimes, um so those those avenues definitely need to be. uh pursued, i think they're they're going to be very difficult, so long as the us empire is uh bankrolling all this, providing diplomatic cover, providing you pressuring international courts to uh, the international court, criminal court and and other bodies to uh not investigate uh israel's crimes, that's going to uh, but i i would venture to guess that israeli politicians and military leaders are going to have a harder and harder time uh traveling internationally in the uh coming weeks and coming months. all right, thanks lot, gentlemen, eve engler, author and political activist joining us from montreal, and thanks to mr. cholid barrakot, spokesperson of the massar battle movement,
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joining us from vancouver, and a special thanks to you, our viewers for staying with us on tonight spotlight, it's good night for now and see you next time.
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سكر سكر سكر الفلوس سكرير يا فلسطين ارفعك ارفع ارفع ارفع ارفع نعيد كمان مره اعيد. كمان مره وارفع السبابه وسمع لي يا ابو عبيده وادي عربه نجاسه او يا ابو عبيده يا حبيب الله اكبر ايها الاخوه اصلا وشعبה כולם אחורה אחורה
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the headlines, israel kills scores of displaced people taking shelter in a school in gaza as the regime continues striking the besiege territory for the 42nd consecutive day. lebanon's resistance food hezbollah has launched fresh attacks on israeli targets and retaliation for the regime's atrocities against palestinians in gaza. more people around the world rally to show solidarity with palestinians and condemn israel's genocide in gaza as the regime's propaganda war proves to be ineffective.