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hello and welcome to press tv spotlight, i'm marsia hashimi, thanks so much for being with me, 700, 700 more palestinians have been slaughtered during the last 24 hours in the israeli regime's genocide on gaza, as more children lose their lives in the... strip, the united states continues to reiterate its absolute support for the zionist regime. the united states defense secretary loyd austin has said that the u.s. will not allow hamas to win, and he reiterated that the u.s.'s support for israel's security is non-negotiable, and it never will be. mr.
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secretary, what about the kids in gaza's security? is that negotiable? we're going to be looking at this on. this uh spotlight, i'd like to welcome my guests to the program, john phoenix, journalist and international relations expert out of london, thanks so much for being with me. john, do you think that the israeli regime could continue this genocide if it wasn't for the support of the united states? well, is it clear from day one, the americans is actually running the show, not only supporting the uh... in gaza the presence on the on the sea, on the border of lebanon to be sure that the resistance lebanon not to engage and exerting pressure on the zionist regime in order to support the palistin in gaza, so they are not only
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supporting the zin regime, they are part of the genocide, that also include the uk regime, not only united states, now you question about the american defense minister and you ask a question is what about the children in gaza? well just go back to the statement byright when she was asked is 500 thousand children in iraq is a worth to pay and she said yes so i don't think this criminals will have any regard to the lives the children and women and you see nearly now this is the second month nearly fifth. the 61 days of the slaughter of the palestinians, all the targets they attacked, no hamas targets being attacked so far, they couldn't find hamas target to to single out, they attacked hospitals and schools, residents, you know, playgrounds, the bomb as you said
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in introduction, the bomb ja camp last night, you know, i mean residental, clear residental flats being. flatten completely with nearly 7000 people last night, so this is the war which is the try in the western fake media to liberate as hamas israel, is not hamas israel, is genocide against the palestinian people, yes, they wanted yeah, they wanted to obviously use the libanese model on 82 trying to take the north and push everybody to the south. in the meantime while they are pushing people to the south the boming the south rafahan can to force them escape to to egypt and they believe that actually this model will work pushing the so called hamas out of the north and keep their illegal settlement
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on the occupied palestine 1948 safe this model actually fail in lebanon the south now control by hizballah obviously as remember in 82, they created the so-called south liven army, right? which is a similar to traiter abbas and his police, to this extent, well stay with me, john, stay with me, john, because i want to get my next guests in on this conversation, am wahdan, human rights activist out of ramanla, thank you so much for being with us, i'd like to hear your analysis of the situation, i mean when we look at the israeli regime, do you think? that the regime is an outpost for the united states and implementing of washington's policy or or is it the united states being used by the zionist to further um its own goals um thanks for having me uh actually um this um illegal state or regime this colonial
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uppertide regime was created actually by the us slash in 1948 after the um passed the partition plan and we know that it was trueman who forced 33 countries to v vote in favor of this resolution while it was um violation of the un charter itself and it was violation of international law at the same time because um the general assembly is not authorized to take land from one people give it to another people or to slash one piece of a country and give it to another group of people, so the whole thing was framed by the us and by international imperial. global imperialism led by the us, so it's the other
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way around, this is a functional state to the americans, to imperialism, led by the usa, and everything that is happening to the palestinians since day one and up until now, is coordinated and articulated by the us, and israel is... being as i said like a military base for the us, except that it's lost this edge since 2000 when they were forced to leave lebanon to withdraw from lebanon at the hands of um the resistance, the lebanese resistance. 2006 they lost another war with the lebanese resistance. in gaza itself, they lost five wars before. and every time they try to use force in order to coers the
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palestinians, they lose, and the us is trying now um to to um revise the clock and think thinking that it might be working for them, what is gonna be working is the will of the people, the will of the palestinian people, um, they try to say that this is a war against hamas and it's um colonial powers usually try to divide and rule, thinking that this is um they can get away with this false claim, this is not a war against hamas, again, this is a war against the palestinian people, and the palestinian people are supporting the resistance, supporting all resistance factions in gaza and in the west bank as well. in order to get rid of this colonial entity that was planted
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illegitimately in our on our land. okay, let me uh, well john, us secretary of defense loid austin has said that washington support for israel is non-negotiable. what does that mean in in your perspective? uh, do you think that the united states will go full force, 100%, no matter what, because we americans as well as people around the world rising up against this genocide, but of course they're being ignored by the regime in washington and and other western regimes, how far do you see the united states going in the support of the israeli regime, or do you agree with amal, actually as matter of fact, the israeli regime is an outpost, is an extension of uh washington and implementing its policies in the region? well, if you go back, i mean that is 100% correct, if you go back to the 60s
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during the soviet union, the cold war, israel actually kept the the arab reaction regime in place, they obviously israel is mafia boy in the area, who actually keep the american industry safe, especially the resources and the oil, and that's this is the if you go back to the history, you and you look deeply to what the role of the zianist regime. now obviously if you look from the 1948 to this moment, every american president in their national obviously fair speech taking over in the house is they emphasize on the security of israel and we thought in and obviously it was a time where we thought with the the mice of soviet union israel will not be any us for the united states because they have enough obviously arab reaction regimes who are
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working with the american you know in the area but with the i could say exactly with 1979 with the emerge of the islamic republic of iran obviously that's changed the whole atmosphere in in american foreign policy because they see that obviously the overthrow the bat regime of the... shah and having a regime supporting the resistance in the area, see this is the threat, so the israelis take more interest role in the middle east. especially during the iraqi war and during the the libya war, i mean they involve even in the in the war in libya, so they are the the lab dog of united state and they will be useful obviously, the main problem is now the people have to keep in mind that the jewish lobby what we call them jewish lobby, some
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people like to call them, control the two houses, the congress and the senate, and that's why the... and foreign policy is treated toward israel, no president will become president without the support of the zist lobby who is actually serving on washington in behalf of the illegitimate zinast regime in in in palestine, they will go further till actually something is change, and the only thing can change is the resistance, we're going to have new phase, this one with me with me, stay with me. i do want to get to that a little bit later in the program, but um, amad, during the last 24 hours, as i said in my intro, over 700 more palestinians have been killed, um, meanwhile the us is promising more weapons to the israelis, the raf, royal air force of england, um, will be conducting surveillance flights over gaza, um, are these western
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regimes now basically openly declaring that they are part of... this genocide against the palestinians? yes of course, they are in total comple with this war, genocide war against the palestinians and the europeans declared this since they won, they said israel has the right to defend itself, but the palestinians have no right to defend themselves for 75 years, who inflicted this problem on the palestinians, the jewish problem itself. was created in europe, it wasn't created in palestine, but palestine has to take over or has to tolerate what the europeans inflicted over the jewish people in europe, so um the the us support for israel is $3.8 billion dollar a year, and it was
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going on since 1948, and this is in addition to other military and other sorts of support, billions of of dollars of course the zionist lobby has its role there, but let us remember that there is the christian zionism which makes a great influence among christians, especially the protestant, and this is what ac gives more support for the israelis whether it it is the presidential elections or the congress elections, so focusing on what's going on in palestine, i can see that what happened in 1947, 48 is repeating itself, history is repeating itself now in a
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different way and and in a different framework and regional ' map is a different, it's different now than it was before. now we have a resistance, actions of resistance, we have hezballah in the north, the libanes resistance, we have the iraqi resistance, we have the syrian resistance, and we have the yemani resistance, and of course we have iran within this access of resistance, so um, the condition now is perfect for the... palestinians, although we are losing lots of lives and there is lots of destruction there, but this is a turning point for the palestinians, this is a historic movement for the palestinians, it shows that this israel or colonial apertide regime of israel is collapsing from inside, it's military, its
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security, all the institute, all um the establishment that they have. is collapsing, it's economy is collapsing, all these factors together are capable of of giving the palestinian resistance and additional push to continue their defense, their defense of their national rights, national aspiration and the right of of return for seven million people who are living in refugee camps outside, this is the... all right, well uh, john, your assessment, because imal just pointed out to the uh weakness of the israeli regime, different situations that's happening. um internally in in in in in various uh aspects of the regime, i want to look at the from the military perspective, because uh, your overall assessment of this
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regime and its weakness in on the war front, i mean yes of course it's committing genocide, it's not difficult to kill lot of kids and bomb um civilians from the air, but even now they're getting at it support from the us, from the uk, more weapons and more money and we see that they have not been able to succeed um against the palestinian resistance. your overall assessment of the israeli regime from a military aspect during this genocide? you know we just want to highlight one little thing on the hamas attack on the seven october, this is was actually assault where israel cannot really handle right? israel actually talking about... about the border between ghaza and 1948 illegally occupied palestine is that the most secure, most secure area, if you ever
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looked at the before the seventh at the satellite, you see that the amount of cameras and amount of satellite, it was insult, it was a revenge war now, how dare you actually manage to put our nose in the ground, the other side of the... order the settlement where the hamas invaded and taking the hostages, actually it was roll model for europeans to come and settle in in occupied palestine, so it wasn't really a war such as i want to start a war with gaza, because they've been attacking gaza whenever they like, you know, once or twice for months, under any any pretex just to to remind the palestinians that you are in a big nazi camp and we are here watching you. we are here, but this time it was really insult because they failing intelligence, failing in security, failing on on every aspect, and
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that shows the weakness of the zin regime, okay, that's you imagine now a state which is supposed to be the fourth largest, strongest army middle east, asking the help of united state and and and uk, mean just ask yourself this question, so the this is a problem, it is a revenge war. not a fight with hamas, that's why they are attacking civilians, hamas is not the civilians, the schools, the hospitals, as i mentioned early, okay, they are covered, actually, they're covered, all right, i'm just about out of time, but i just want to ask both of you really quickly, um, your perspective, you talked about the resistance, now we see more and more uh, these western regimes coming out and openly, basically supporting this genecide, um, how likely is this uh war to expand as far as more direct involvement by those who support the palestinians? um, actually um netanyahu
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and his government are trying to push the us to to get involved by um enticing the lebanese resistance to be largely involved, we know that the lebanese resistance is involved since the 8th of october. and they're doing a marvelous job, not only daily operations on the north, but they managed to force the settlers and to force the establishment, the zin establishment to evacuate all the settlers from the settlements of the north, imagine moving 250,000 people from these settlements and pushing them down to the middle and evacuating also the settlements inclaving gaza to elath as far as ilat and to the
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middle region as well, this is major problem, so by trying to push hizballah to be more involved, 15 seconds, so sorry 15 seconds, go ahead, yeah, this is actually against the well of the us, the us does not want, actually the us is trying to avoid hizballah to be more involved in this in this crisis now, and this war, because they know the consequences of it, they witnessed 2006 and they can't afford to have another defeat from the north, they will lose the love to continue this conversation with both of you, unfortunately we really uh out of time, appreciate both of you being with me, i'm al wahdan human rights activist out of ramanla and john phoenix journalist and international relations expert out of london, i thank you viewers for being with us on another spotlight, i'm mariza hashimi, i hope to see
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