in the action. they sleep in the bed. how many more resolutions? hello, i'm and you're watching palestine classified, we're the only weekly tv show focusing on investigating and exposing the israeli regime's global war against solidarity with the illegally people of palestine. in this week's show, looking at

the relentles and unflinching determination of the palestinian people to throw off the shackles of zionist depression, the sadistic brutality of zinist military goons and the savage behavior of illegal settlers have completely failed to blunt the will of the in palestinian people to resist. the tiefchakra has been looking back at the first interfather when the palestinian people rose up against israel's military occupation of the west bank and the gaza strip. the first interfather or upprising began in december 1987, 36 years ago, it ended in september 1993 with the signing of the first oslo accords, which provided a framework for so-called peace negotiations with the palestinians. the failure of that process is visible for all to see today. in the first interfather brutality was abundantly demonstrated. palestinians were casualties at the ratio of more than three to one. one new departure were the orders from the top to break the bones of protesters. the tactic was exposed in famous footage brought. cost on

mainstream news networks the world over israeli conel yahuda med was tried for his part in these crimes, he blamed then defense ministerk rabin who gave orders in january 1988 to break bones of protesters as punishment. rabbin claimed it was only to bring them on control. either way, rabin's orders had gone out via the israeli press where he was quoted saying, "we will break their bones." may admitted ordering beatings, but then said, "i feel like they abandoned me and..." rumi to the dogs. he reportedly began to cry minutes later and asked for a recess. though eventually found guilty of brutality, the highest ranking ios soldier convicted on that charge. he avoided prison and was only stripped of his rank and discharged as private. a second departure was the use of undercovered despots in ghazza and the west bank, code named shim shum and dove divan, officially known as unit 367 and unit 217. operating in arab dress in the period of.

1992, they executed more than 100 palestinians. unit 367 was later disbanded, but unit 217 remains active in the west bank. the start of the interfather is dated to 9th of december, 1987, just like october this year, the conflict did not begin then. the proximate causes were intensified ethnic cleansing, land expression and settlement construction. increasing zionist repression, the emergence of new layer of palestinian activists who challenged the leadership. the po we should not forget the striking reconfiguring of october the 7th axa flood operation in the night of gliders in which two palestinian gorillas used hand gliders to infiltrate the north border and kill six occupation force operatives on 25th november 1987. the gorillas were immortalized in many palestinian posters and images produced in commemoration. the hanging attack is held from the popular front for the liberation of palestine, which is one of the key gorilla groups engaged in the alax of flood and gazza. key difference between then and now is

today's unity of the fields in which all the major faction collaborate closely in armed actions against the occupation. as always we're joined by resident expert david miller. david is academic and a former professor at bristol university and is now president senior fellow at the islam and global affairs at istanbul university. he's also director of lobby and watch dog watch and he's a leading british scholarly critic of israel. our today is palestinian doctor, activist, academic and writer. dr. garda comy. gard was born in jerusalem and forced from her home during the nakbar. she later trained as a med doctor established the first british palestinian medical charity in 1972. she was also associate fellow at the royal institute for international affairs and her books include the best-selling memoire. let me stop with you. i mean, you, you were forced out of palestine in 1948, went you and then witness of the occupation of gazer and the west bank from a far in 1967. i wonder whether you just record how you felt at the time of the first.

order: well, i had, of course, i had already uh become an activist following the 1967 war, because it was the first time i remember that i began to understand what israel was about, and it was very clear to me from that day on that what they were about was occupying the rest of palestine and that that's what they wanted, and the first t father was so hopeful, it was wonderful moment for all of us who had felt a kind of sense of desp as living through the cies in britain, israel becoming more and more accepted and it was becoming more and more quote normalized. "and you know, so we we started feel a bit hopeless that, and then comes the first intefather, you think, but of course we didn't first, then comes an entif and which and which reasserts the fact that there a palestinian people, and they are not willing

to accept what is has been scripted for them by israel and its western back, and by the way, in any discussion we have, we have always to remember that is" would not be israel if it were not for western support? no, absolutely. well david, you've been involved in palestinian activism for quite some time now, i think you were first got involved didn't you in the christian of palestine that first interf in 1987 and i think that was after saying this brutal beating wasn't it of those palestinian protesters? yes, mean one of the first things i ever did, didn't really think of it as that then when we saw the the beking. the bones, the famous footage of that, and then the bbc reported one of the soldiers had been arrested for the breaking of the bone, being shown home released from custody to his kiboots and he was welcomed as a dental giant who was returning to the b of his family, yeah, and we were just outraged at this at the time i was working at the glasgow

university group, i was young, not even a pc student by that stage, and we went into something in glasgow called the video box, which is several of them around the country uh where channel 4's right to reply program, one of the key. benefit of the creation channel four in terms of democratizing the media where you could go in and you could make a 30 second clip to complain about something so we went in i think three or four crowned into this box it's an outrage that the bbc should refer to these horrific torturers as being gentle giants and the bbc should we have proper coverage of this and so that was one of my first bits of education way in which propanda operates in relation to potentially yeah absolutely and of course it's moved a pace since then god mean how was the zinanish regime's oppressive techniques? changed since the 980s when they officially sanctioned the kind of bone breaking punishment beatings and these uh undercover assassinations. well, well they've got worse, they don't bother to break people's bows, they shoot them dead, so you know that has become it is amazing the idea and the

spectacle of soldiers just shooting palestinians, killing them, yes, part of the normal landscape, that's what so very frightening about all this. in 1948, the point about that nakbah as as and the same point today is the violence, is the violence that accompanies zinanism, and so that violence meant that moving on from breaking bones just simply shoot the people dead, no indeed, indeed, it's much more visible now, i think that isn't it than it has ever been in the... with the advent of social media, more more people are aware of the what the you know zinism, the reality of zism is, but david, i mean the first didn't it with the with the accords and of course, many people at the time i think thought this was the beginning of a viable peace process didn't, but as it turned out that was just wishful

thinking wasn't it, if you recall that period we had the irish peace process, south african peace process, we had we had mandela prison, it looked like this was part of a general. tency in the world to move towards resolving political conflicts, of course that was a mistake, see now that nothing of the sort was happening, in fact of course what happened was that the pl had recognized the science entity and had also renounced effect resistance against designing and that of course led to the marginalizing authority of course the comp authority as it is and which collaborates directly with the zionists to press the palestine resistance movement, but it meant the power and resistance shifted away from the plo, especially from fata uh leading faction in the plo and towards more openly islamically oriented movements especially of course palestinan islamic jihad, but you know also the let's remember the the uh the secularist leftist factions like dflp and which are which are of course

all all these factions are now at the center the resistance in gaza yeah i do but god i mean in your what was the problem with with the oslow process? well well... "there was nothing right with it, actually, it was real problems, the first, first issue is that the palestinian side offered a recognition. of israel within the borders of the borders which meant that it kept 78% of the original land of palestine recognized their right to that while actually getting very little in return, because what they actually got was a recognition on the part of israel of the palestine liberation organization as the movement that represents the palestinians okay, good, but that's not good enough, there was nothing people really. to remember, there was nothing in the oslim agreement which made

it mandatory that the israel would move towards assisting in the creation of a palestinian state, that was never over stated, it was something that the palestinians sort of assumed, and lots of other people assumed, but they had no right to assume it because it wasn't in the accords. secondly, what it really did was to sort of give a structure to the idea of autonomy of palestinian autonomy in certain spheres was around for for ages the egypt israel treaty 1979 already was something with the israeli side was willing to agree and so called autonomy well that's what did it allowed autonomy but for things like health education civil society type things but not for defense. and not for freedom of movement, so it it all it really did was give if i

think the best way to put it is, it it it presented a sort of feel good, yes thing to other people, well well just leave there, we can for moment buse to come back to the discussion in a while after you've had a chance to look our next video about the genesis of hamas, the term hamas is an acronym. which translates english simply as resistance movement. resistance is, in other words, literally part of its name. amas was effectively born as a direct result of the spark that lit the flame of the first interfada. the people who created it met the day after the occupation forces killed four palestinian workers by crashing into their car at the gaza checkpoint. a leaflet issued on december 14th, calling for resistance is considered the first. intervention, though the name hamas itself was not used until early 1988, like its key ally in palestinian

resistance, the islamic jihad movement in palestine, usually called palestinian islamic jihad or pij in the west, hamas was formed from the muslim brotherhood, though the brotherhood was politically quietest at time, both ham and islam jihad became more recal, seeking to challenge the dominance of fatah, the secular nationalist group, then hegemonic among the... palestinians, this task became all the more central one fatih accepted the existence of the state of israel and renounced arm struggle. looking back, it is clear that the first interfada was a fork in the road between those who believed compromise could lead to progress and those who maintained only resistance could win. hamas was formed one month or pl led declaration advocating coexistence with the zinis entity early 1988. after oslo and then the gaza with. roll in 2005, hamas entered and won the elections in gaza and became the

de facto government, the armed wing of hamas, the is al din al-qassim brigade, had been branded as a terrorist organization for than 20 years. in late 2021, the uk moved ban hamas in total, including its political wing. since the launch of alxa flood on october 7, there has no propaganda war over the role of hamas in the resistance, in the idea that hamas was created or support. by the zionist. this misunderstands the history by confusing support given by the zionist to politically quietest muslim brotherhood in order to undermine the more radical plo with the more militant politics associated with hamas. later when aarial sharon attempted to liquidate the plo, hamas did benefit, but its victory in the 2006 election marked realization of the zionis that it had become their main enemy. since then they were marked periods when... "the various factions of the resistance were at odds with each other, but in most recent years all the resistance

factions have made peace and war as one. david, just say a word to will you about the muslim brother in palestine, so the muslim brotherhood of course is a transnational movement if you like with independent parts different countries, one in the uk, of course it's been very much targeted uh in this country, for example was investigation uh under the cameron government which is prom" by sign interest lobbing for for that investigation trying to suggest that muslim brotherhood were terrorists, now of course muslim brotherhood is uh not a terrorist organization uh in this country it's play active uh in that has been in the anti-w movement, very important to the anti-w movement country, but in palestine, there are two separate factions of the muslim brother, the egyptian muslim brother and the jordanian muslims in the west bank gaza, and they were at the time quite politically quiet, what the plo, as kind of radical national organization was by far the most radical threat to theity,

because they were engaged, whereas the muslim brotherhood were not, it was a split from muslim brotherhood which led both to palestilamic jihad which of... the more radical smaller of the movements today and of course hamas and once he became the radical cutting edge of resistance, that's when the the idea of using them to under my plo became something which designers didn't want to do and and of course that's the story, hamas was noted by by israel, the idea somehow it's a cat's p for western interests is is fantasy and people in the palestine movement to abandon such beliefs and understand the resistance in palestine is is serious. against not just designity, but against interest imperialism in the whole. yeah, i wonder with you, just to say something about the evolution of of your thinking on resistance, well look, it was always very clear to me from the very from, suppose from the very beginning of my activism or awareness that that we have to fight to get

the country back. it was always very clear to me that whatever name you wanted. give it, the the the end result had to be the reclamation of palestine and all it for the palestinians and that those palestins like myself, the millions living in un registered refugee camps, all those people had the right to go back and reclaim their home and it was always very clear to me that that was the aim, so next question was, how do we get there, and i was reallying to... support anything that almost anything that would looked as if it might us there yeah that included different i never had a sort of i think many palestinians are like me didn't sort of think oh we can support this if it's religiously motivated or if it's this kind of thing or that kind of not really i think it's

much simpler than that for palestinian they just want to get the country back and they'll... back whatever it is that looks likely to get us sir. now having said that, i can't disguise the fact that i was never keen on religious type resistance movements, because always felt that they missed the point. the point about palestine is not religion, it's ceft of land, it's very simple, so really you have to get hold of the thief, sort the thief out and get the land. so you don't need religion as a motivating factor, however i have to say that over time and observing the way that not only hamas but in lebanon has fought uh their resistance wars so not only bravely so cleverly yeah is

very impressive and if and in the end i ended up by saying not only me but many others like me by saying "if it takes religion to get you to function like this, then so be it, inde, indeed. david, i think one of the important takeaways from the video that we just watched is that it contradicts doesn't it those who claim that hamas was created by designers, it does, i mean, i think this is a mistake that you saw in clip from the intercept making that kind of argument, but there been many other kinds of arguments like that, and and you you see..." seen lots of people tweeting - um little cuttings from heres with supporting h, it's a mistaken, it's a misunderstanding, and of course what what we see is the the attempt on parts of the left, i think to to misunderstand the resistance in palestine and to think because of because the horror that we're currently are seeing,

because of the dead children, the bombing of the buildings, the raising of gaza, people think that means that the palestinis can do nothing. 'yeah, their only choice is to is to stay homes and die or to leave into the sign, which of course is design strategy, but actually what we've what we see if we pay enough attention is that there has been really very significant resistant g and indeed of course in in the west bank and of course also on the northern border from hisballah very very serious resistance which has had really significant effect on the the occupation forces, i'm not seeing much of the report media, but if you're attention to social media to telegram you see lot of that kind of stuff that is it's a mistakeus to think that that isn't happening and that isn't a significant actor in in this whole period of course it is very very significant actor, we would never have had the changes for the the palestinian hostages in israels if it wasn't for that of course. of course, i mean, um, god, i mean, what would do you say to those who insist that we must condemn hamas? i mean, pear's morgan is a classic case point, every guest he has on when talking about this issue, we first ask them,

will you condemn hamas? what would the response be to, it's good that you bring this up, because it's really infuriating, you there you are being asked very important question, and before you are allowed to answer, you have to make this declaration, i condemn hamas, well no, the the the... really the proper answer to that is this not a question of condemnation, it's a question of trying to understand why people behave like this, what makes them do that? really that it has to face this issue of this word condemn, you know, and the other way to deal with it, which is not original to me, but it's it's perfectly correct is to ask the the person asking one this question. when you last condemn an israeli spokesperson or representative for the actions of the israel army? there was a good response i saw on

social media where somebody was asked about a demonstration about october the 7 said well what about october the 8 october the night what about october the 11th tried to walk away finished answering the question yet going on and then he was saying and what about you know every every day back to 1948 so yeah mean i think you're absolutely right we do need to to push back back against that, but look, i'm afraid to say we are out of time, so that's it for another show. i'd like to thank dr. god and of course our resident expert professor david miller. palestine classified we'll be back next week with more forensic investigations and analysis and in the meantime you can follow the show on facebook, twitter and telegram where we post regular clips and updates and remember to share today's program on your social media platforms. so until next time, this is chris saying bye for now.

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