tv SPOTLIGHT PRESSTV December 12, 2023 10:02pm-10:29pm IRST
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crisis devastating wars, terrorism, the israeli lobby, crackdown, diplomacy, us israely genocide in gaza, make sure to join the show through facebook, twitter. only on press tv: now is really force are still hitting hospitals killing the wounded as well as medical staff. the same happens at un schools like honor school that was just... blown up
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and refugee cam, where large numbers of internal displaced palestinians have taken shelter, hell on earth, graveyard for children, catastrophic and similar aising words are used by international human organizations to describe the situation in gaza. meanwile people around the world are crying out loud asking for an end to the israely genocide, while blaming the united states for the plate of palestinians. welcome to the spotlight. i'm your host najafi, and these are guests in this episode. scott of inspector in iraq is joining us out new york. also with us is independent journalist out of damascus. good to see you both, welcome to the show. now scott to begin with you uh 80% of the gaza population has been displaced based on official riples and they are urgently in need of food and water just to serve. so aid is not reaching them properly
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the price of this collective punishment? well with all the restrictions regime, should pay israel should pay price and the united states should pay price, the bottom line is the nation implementing this policy and the united states is the nation facilitating this policy, let's be rough could not do what it's doing without support of the united states, the international community is quite unified and cessation of hostilities and the immediate implementation of a massive humanitarian assistance uh program for thes in gaza and then for negotiated uh settlement gives the palestine what they have deserved for the past 75 plus years that is a homeland of their own. now israel doesn't want this uh this is the whole reason why this fighting is taking place. hamas didn't act on october 7th you in a vacuum. uh, it was the manifestation
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of 75 years of israeli occupation, israeli colonial administration, apart height governance uh, it where the palestinians literally had no hope for better future, and uh hamas's action uh shook free the rust that had corroded the the peace process and uh this is what israel fears, especially israel uh governed by benjamin netanyahu and his far right-wing coalition, they've said they don't want palestinian homeland, they want a... greater israel, biblical israel has no palestiny presence, this is fantasy devo reality, but israel is willing to pursue this objective and the kill as many palestinians in the process. all right, vanessa, it's not only that they want palestinan homeland, that's true, but inion to that they didn't want any palestinians either, mean as human beings, remember all those uh, calling names, calling them animals, all that, and then we have some palestinians who were recently freed in this swapping that happened.
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recently and they recount what they went through, what in israel custody, they mostly complain about those humiliating,ers that they suffer more than the physical ones, so i want to ask you where this kind of mentality and mindset ended from, this feeling that some israelies have, they feel superior to palestinians, well i mean ever since the british in reality supported and incubated design is colonialist. project, this entity has been a death cult. if you look at what has happened since 1947 going into the neckbar as scott mentioned, this hasn't been going on for since october the 7th, it's been going on actually since before 1948 there were already massicers being carried out against palestinians in order to disposses them of their land and their homes and their dignity way before 1947 when the un and gave
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more than 50% to to to the zionist project before the sorry before the uk basically pretty much over. to the us in later years to manage it um and so therefore what we see, we saw the recent pictures of civilians, children, women that were basically taken out of refugee centers and places where they were taking shelter, they were strip naked and people have made in in my opinion a very justified uh comparison to the nazis and the way that the designists are treating palestinians, it's complete humiliation. it's massacre of children, what is it now, around 700 children? i mean even saying that number is unimaginable. we we we get almost innured to this, this creeping up of these numbers a daily basis, we're flooded with images of
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children that have limbs missing, heads missing, that are burned, that are injured beyond belief, that have lost their entire family, and yet we see absolutely no compassion, i from the zionist regime or from its supporters, you know, when when the un representative from the us can literally veto peace, that is is the depth to which we've descended right now, the us is basically vetoing peace, it's extraordinary, right, and scott, ukrainian president zelinsky is visiting the us in washington, is there debate for of course more money? and weapons to fight russia, why shouldn't the the us treat the palestinians by the same token? because we don't care about palestinians, the palestinians don't add anything to the uh national security um framework of the united states. uh, we've um, look, from from the
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moment we got involved in uh this arab israely peace process, did back to henry kinder, uh, palestinians were inconvenient reality, "you richard nixon, the president states at the time, had encouraged kissinger to seek a final solution, and that's a horrible term, i'll come up with better one, a uh more lasting solution to the problem of israeli air relations, and in particular israel's relationship with the palestinians, but kissager didn't do this, he chose to um, you make focus on egypt and embettering relations between egypt and israel, and the palestinians were left up to the israelis to to." and that's been our posture ever since we don't want to do anything that um impeeds our relationship with israel and the palestinian people are such an impediment because israel doesn't want a palestinian state and uh if we were to actually pursue a palestinian state it would put us at odds
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with our your greatest regional ally so this this notion at the united states cares about i am sickened to my stomach every time i hear the president of the united states the... secretary of the united states or any american official talk about how their heart is breaking for the people, it is a lie, because if their heart was breaking for the palestinian people, they would do something for the palestinian people such as insist a cease fire, but we vetoed that the united nations, exactly, and venessa, the us is still doing the same thing, it's constantly kept block all efforts of the un security council as you know that aimed at stopping this carnage in gaza, so if the security council is not the venue where countries could come up with these ideas to stop something like this is really savage that's happened in gaza, where should they be able to do this? which international body? well, i think also an important point to make, not only is the us feeting peace, it's supplying bombs and the weapons that are being used to carry out the genocide against palestinians,
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not only in gaza, but also in west bank, which is being largely ignored, of course. that's a quiet genocide and ongoing with us support. um while the the more overt massacre of palestinians in gaza is ongoing. i think really what we are seeing is the shift and the balance of power of course, and that is what is sending um the us and its policy instrument in the middle east and to spin, which is of course the emergence breaks um the the the rised power of russia and china and their alliances in the region in particular. um and i think... 'you know the there only other organization that has any potential to break any kind, media any kind of peace, and we've seen president recently speaking to netanyahu, visiting the uae and saudi arabia etc, speaking to iran and even to hamas officials and i think until you know
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is an alternative, i think that really the only alternative that i can see that has any potential to broker any kind of agreement and also to legitimate'. the palestinian resistance, of course, what the us is doing is totally delegitimizing palestinian resistance by nominating hamas a terrorist organization while reality, hamas is only one faction among the resistance movement, there's more than 17 factions in gaza alone, and then as i said before, hamas is not in west bank, there are multiple other resistance factions inside west bank, and they're not even all islamists, there are christian factions that are against the zionist oppression, there are even socialist communist factions like the pflp that are against zionist occupation, oppression and apart, so you know at least the... organization or or complex is is legitimizing
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the resistance, which the west is simply not doing, and of course now said that they're ready to start a war, on on the west bank, they haven actually at war, but they're even eager to expand it further, and now scott antonio gutierez just admitted the united nations is unable to stop to do anything and to stop this blotch in gaza, yeah with egypt and mauritania yesterday. they were pushing to hold this general assembly meeting nation of security council's efforts have been actually have failed thanks to the us of course the veto there so uh what can the un general assembly meeting do because resolution uh that invoked 377a asks for collective efforts by number of countries but it's non-binding it's it's binding but understand this it is the only forum outside the security that can authorize the use of military force. um, and frankly speaking, this is what has to happen. i, i'm i'm a
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promoter of peace. i believe in peace, but not anti-war when a cause is just, and the cause of the palestinian people is just. um, the the security council through this 377a resolution can say that israel must stop uh, its genocide against the palestinian people, that humanitarian aid must be brought in, and that... israel opposes this, that the general assembly authorizes military force to be used. now, while this doesn't result in security council chapter 7 resolution, it provides all the legality necessary for any nation around israel to use military force to achieve the goals and objectives of the united nations, and so there is there, there is something the and what this would represent is that the entire world has turned not only on israel, but the united states, that the world is sick and tired of america.
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illegal occupation of territories, particularly in the middle east, of course, i'm here in syria, which is effectively occupied by the united states from from the north to the south on the eastern border, right? um, the immediate reaction from the us and uk alliance and the eu is to play sanctions a target nation, and yeah, despite the fact that there are multiple experts, including very early on, un experts that wrote a... strong report basically calling what israel is doing genocide, facto
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genocide, we haven't seen any effort from the un to pressure um for sanctions on israel, mean i'm not an expert in on law so i'm not quite sure how that would work, maybe scott could eliminate, but why has there be for sanctions on israel, that's a retorical questions largely of course, yeah in on that, well again normally such call would be made for the security council, the way the charter was envisioned that the security council would take its responsibilities seriously, but as we've seen in the case of israel, the united states will vedo anything and everything that seeks to hold israel to account. so now we have this extraordinary measure uh, and it is extraordinary, because what you're basically asking the general assembly to do is acknowledge the failure of the security council and to take matters in their own hands. um, and normally the general assembly is not, body to do this uh, it would be split, generally speaking along political lines that reflect the security council, but
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here we have a situation where the entire world recognizes the genocide that's taking place, so now the general assembly has the potential to pass a resolution that can sanction israel, it's not binding, meaning it doesn't mean nations have to do this, but it provides the legitimate authority for nations to begin sanctioning israel, and if the general assembly wants to use military force against it. right, now venessa, this is a piece of advice from the israeli defense minister to palestina resistance fighters, exactly quoting his word, surrender unconditionally or die. now with such mindset on the part of israeli officials, one of them saying why, why did you nuke gaza? what kind of war is this? just nuke them and just kill them all. so what you see on the horizon for palestinians, where is this uh, which direction is this moving? well, mean i think militarily, i was actually discussing that here in syria today and be interesting again
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get scots opinion, but people here who are following the military situation obly very closely because syria is is one of the closest allies to palestine uh and to has bar in the northern occupied territories. um, the fact is that the the iof is losing the battle inside gaza, it's basically burying itself in a quadm, it's opened up various new entry points, both in the north and in the south, it's had to withdraw from uh various areas in the north today because of the intensity of the resistance attacks, once they enter gaza of course they're at the... the resistance that can run rings around them, you know, these are not battle hardened soldiers, they're used to to bombing using artillery, i mean, i've been in gaza during the 2012 aggression, you're basically bombed from every single possible direction, from the sea, from the air, from the land, from helicopters, from drones, that's what they used to, they're not used to underground fighting, right, and and ultimately the more
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soldiers that enter the territory, the harder then it is for israel to basically bomb as they have. will have to be lot discriminate and targeted um and the resistance then comes into its own because it knows the territory, it's urban warfare, it it knows the tunnels, we've already seen multiple times up close contact uh combat where the iof have been basically wiped out and the casualty figures i think will be lot higher than the 5,000 injured that that the israel media is being out and the number dead so i think militarily you know i think we've still got lot to to come from the resistance, they've intimated that, they've said that they held back uh on their tactics and on the strategy and that they're ready, and the thing is we know from the fact that that has maintained this low grade pressure in the north, syria is opening up its territory for resist factions to missiles at the occupied territories, but they're all trying to contain that escalation
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that the us and and israel as it is is looking for, but ultimately we're that has or has already said they will enter the war more more more uh extensively when the palestinian resistance tell them that they're struggling but so far they're not struggling yeah of course let for the yemenis they alsoing for israel yeah hurting is really economy bad now scott i want to ask you about washington's ultimate and of course covert agenda for palestine with the us come to terms with this reality that palestinians want to have their own country their own state, they want to have easal ghost as their capital, they want govern themselves. well, before the united states comes to grips with that, we have to come to the grips with what israel is going to look like. vanessa is 100% correct, israel has lost this war, they can't win it. i mean, no matter what they do, they can't win it. uh, the israeli defense force is incapable of uh defeating hamas in gaza. um, the reason
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why they're asking for homasius surrender is because they're desperate to bring an end to this conflict, because they know that... the the resistance is prevailing, not only that, if hez enters this conflict from the north, israel will lose northern israel, they can't defend it, the israeli economy is collapsing, um, thousand, tens of thousands of people have been withdrawn from the north, the the the economy is crippled by what the the hoodi are doing, israel is going to be different, netnyahu's time in office is finished and the united states is going to to come grips with that israel is, what israel will be going forward, then they can begin to craft the palestinian solution, but for the united states putting palestine ahead of israel, putting the cart before the horse, we have to get israel reconfigured in a way that it will politically accept the potential of a palestinian state, right, and lan, one last question, the iranian forem minister told the doha form yesterday that there is only one
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thing that tehan and tel aviv agree on and that the two state solution won't work. says that there should be only one state, the ones offering a referendum to be held by palestinians, both expatriates and palestinians in so that they can decide on their own what their future should look like, your opinion, well absolutely, i mean the two state solution for me has been dead in the war for a long time, and the one state manifesto is what pretty much all the united palestinian resistance fractions agree on and the majority of of the... that have been palestinian resistance, because of course what israel has done is to undermine any opportunity for two-state solution, why? because since the 70s under basically been deliberately building the settlements to break up the west bank into um small partitioned um cantons that can basically be
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separated and controlled and that of course is what we're now seeing they're destroying the the bridges and and the road structures and the connecting roots while of course they're increasing the apartide wall and then they're looking at encoaching on the jordan valley etc so israel has no interest in solution, so for me, iide, you know, an ideal world, it has to be dismantlement of the science project, and it has to be a return basically to the 48 border, with the state of palestine and jews and christians and palestinians living in peace as they did before incubated product. all right, that's all time we have for this show. let me thank my guest scott, former weapons. inspector in iraq from bethlehem, new york, venicebili, independent journalists in damascus and thank you for watching this episode of news review up in your host and i'll see you next time.
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mandela's demise in december 2013 amit the israel regime's genocidal war on gaza. nelson mandela's resolute support for the liberation of palestine has come into focus. this week's edition of africa today is dedicated to nelson mandela and palestine. for inc on these we have exclusive interviews with mandela mandela grand mandela. fully support the efforts of palestinian resistance to oppose the zionist entity and its 75 years of mass south africa the genocide has been executed where this large scale ethnic engine is unprecedent and unparallel.
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the senior un official describes the humanitarian situation and god. as hell on earth as israel keeps pounding the territory says israel and the us will never be able to eliminate palestine resistant movement hamas. these resistant movement hits number of israel military targets and bases in fresh retaliatory strikes.
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