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tv   Gaza Under Attack  PRESSTV  December 19, 2023 12:02am-12:31am IRST

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but here in the uk, one content creator, mother of three, has had visit from the metropolitan police for having done so. so we actually saw um, we actually saw fiona's um video few weeks ago, she was the one who was talking about chickpeas and if you mass up, mash up chickpeas, then of course, if you don't want humus splatted all over your face, then don't don't be up the chickpeas, so it was that video that she is referencing and it was that video that has meant now she is the target. of counter terrorism investigations um, but the ways in which they are trying to intimidate anyone who has any um thing to say about the palestinian liberation movement is of quite disturbing considering her vulnerable nature and the conditions in which they did it. let's have a listen to fiona. okay, chaps, uh, apologies, i've not been online today at um 9:38 this morning whilst myself of and all three of the kids unfortunately were off school because uh 'we were boycotting for
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um palestine, our house was raided by five police officers under section 12 of the terrorism act, um, they then watched me use the loo and watched me dress, uh, bundled me into a metal box in the back of vavaro on the floor because i didn't, i wasn't able to sit on the seats, i dissabled woman, um, they drove for an hour and a half'. to swindon police station where they put me under arrest, well they arrested me here obviously, by the time i got to swindon police station, they had dearrested me on one of the charges, which was actually the charge that gave them permission to enter and search my house, while they were here, they took um my phone, my children's phones, the kids school laptop, just destroyed what they were using anyway, but fiona is actually alluding to here and she goes to do this. um for some time because
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you she wants to update the audience on on exactly what's going on. the first thing is um, before we analyze what she said, i love the fact that the imagery is still there. she's not letting anyone um remove her support or or intimidate her in in condemning any uh of the palestinian resistance. she actually goes to say that all of these charges would have been dropped against her by the police, they they specifically told her condemn the resistance and we will drop all these charges and she's also been uh smeared with anti-semitism, of course, which you know it's easy to do if you want to treat someone like that the way that police has. so she's a disabled woman who wasn't given any water, who was you know humiliated, wasn't allowed to to be given the dignif the dignity of of using the uh the restroom in peace and and in privacy and to dress in peace and privacy, her home was searched, her children had to belongings taken indefinitely, her her children had you know she had to find care for her. kids um, they were without their mom
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for for all these hours, this is only possible in a state that is complicit with uh with the genocide of the palestinians. all right, lativa, thanks for now. latifa will be back with more next week. now, the war on gaza has, amongst other things, revealed the sham of international laws and frameworks and how they are implemented. we spoke with legal analyst armar. has me and asked how is it that those who were responsible for putting these laws in place are the very ones to walk all over them? what's happening currently in gaza has shown once again that these post second world war international institutions like the united nations and all of these different types of international treaties are essentially you know not worth the paper that they're written on, they're essentially meaningless. because you particularly in the
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context of the united nations you have a permanent member of the security council, the united states, which seems hellbent on shielding the israel from any criticism and can exercise its veto power, which is built of into the very structure of the united nations is pretty much impossible to change, and to shield uh a state that is committing genocide, so uh effectively what it shows is that power uh is the determining factor. here, it's not morality, it's not the letter of any laws, if you're able to wieeld a significant amount of political, economic, military power like the united states is able to do, then you can basically do whatever you want, for yourself and for your allies, so it shows that they're incredibly weak, and that you know the whole system of international law is effectively not a, really useful tool
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in trying to bring about justice for palestinians and to bring about an end to the genocide in gaza. there have been serious discussions surrounding the future of gaza post bombardment, the end game, everybody's question, according to ar, well that can take two very different forms. at the moment it's very difficult to tell what's going to happen in gaza and what the landscape is going to look like, because there are currently two different uh camps within the zionist regime vying for different political ends, there are those are more influenced by the americans, there are part, elements of the massad uh... who are wanting to sort of comply with what the americans are telling them, which is that they want to have a sort of notional deadline for this uh for you know january 2024 and they want to bring things to an end, and if it does come to an end then of course what's left in uh gaza is humanitarian catastrophe,
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there are you know issues to deal with in terms of malnourishment, homelessness, uh, you know, all of the people who've been wounded, um, so many, you know, issues that have to be dealt with, and... which would require vast amount of aid being able to reach gaza uh you now both financial and in terms of medicine, food and so on, but if the more extreme, the more militant side wins out the side of itama ben gavir and the revisionist zionists, then uh, they're pushing for a full genocide in gaza, they want to wipe gaza off the map, and they don't want this to end until that happens and every single... palestinian who who's living there is uh you know expelled so if that happens then you're looking a full-scale genocide so at the moment it it's very difficult politics can you know change uh very quickly and so we have to wait and see which of those camps within the zinis regime wins out you're
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watching gaza under attack with me sahit puza and my guests in the studio zamzam ibrahim and by skype lampriny toma joining us uh all the way from athens, greece. lamprini, i'll put the next question to you. so the whole world is calling for a cease fire everybody's calling for deescalation, the end to the bloodshit, yet we are looking at the american, the us national security advisor, jake sullivan, who's in the region, saying that washington backs israel, um, israel's military campaign against hezbollah, if a diplomatic deal fail. "hizbillah has never negotiated with israel, nor will it ever do so, and then you have the hooties who have targeted three ships, they have seized the bulgarian flag ship as early as today. are we already looking at escalation, a regional war, perhaps? they are trying to have
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escalation, they do whatever they can, the israelis. benjamin netanyahu is working directly to have escalation, and i think that hezmolah was very, very..." self-restraint until now, the answer is another thing, mean i i really want to visit yemen one day, i cannot believe what we see in how they act and how they apply their faith because it's a faith thing for them to resist to tyrants, but uh, i don't think that we can discuss real politic with them, but hezbolah was is in its land, it's in lebanon, it's taking... care of lebanon and hesbolah sees the golan heights just next to it, yeah hezbol every day remembers what israel means and was paid a very big blood with lot of blood its
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freedom lebanon and keeping it israel away from its land so how can you ask them to forget that it's it's just yesterday it's not so it's not even a generation. yeah, and zand, do you think perhaps it's it's a case of uh, the tail wagging the dog so to speak, uh, israel, um, telling what the us is supposed to do, or the us reading straight from the israeli playbook, go ahead, do whatever you want to do, we'll just support you, give you that, as nitan yahoo called it, diplomatic iron dail, no, i think absolutely, what we're saying is a continuous playbook being played out for us right, so to show it's a performance, it's very all of it's very performance, we know from the very beginning the intentions behind what was the bombardment um and continuously the the the the new stories and and and things that continuously be thrown out us to maybe confuse the public deter as we've seen
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international solidarity grow at an alarming rate assume for um israel and the us you mentioned international sol solidarity student voices the voices of the youth have louder than ever, how do you account for something like that? say intern students have always been at the very forefront of international solidarity when it comes to campaigning for justice um... 'if you look at the south african apartide, if you look at um the iraq war, actually young people were always at the forefront of calling for justice, um and often probably the reason for that is young people have the most of going for a just sustainable future, but the but at least to lose as young people who don't necessarily have um set careers and and and and and things that all threaten them so actually um and we've seen that an alarming way actually young people challenging not only um the institutions that they're a part of but the the systems that they're also a part of and i think as we have ' as we are in the age of social media, actually access to political education, access to understanding,
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the injustices and how they play out um has really allowed people to really be critical the decision that they make from day to day and really understand the power that they hold as individuals and i think actually the reason that we have seen um inter international solidarity booming the way it has and communities and countries come out in ways that we've never seen before is because the conversation has shifted um and i think that's that's a credit. young people and and and and the work that we're doing um and i think that's going to continue and it's only going to get worse and and i think for that very reason things will never really be the same um regardless of of what things look like in a year in a month the world will not go back to the pre uh october 7th absolutely not status co anymore um i think i can i can bring lamporini to to way in on this as well and that is do you think that what we have seen happen for more than two months now has con attributed to community cohesion uh despite attempts by governments to create
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divisions among the different uh communities um here in the uk elsewhere we've been to protest after protest and you would see muslims and christians and jews all calling for an end to the bloodshit um do you think that happening or do you think there's still divisions among the communities as far as their position i think we're coming together we're coming together and it's on the... youth of course is in the front, but it's not only the youth and for lot of us who have wrote and talked about the middle east and the palestinian issue for years, this is okay, with all that blood, in a way refreshing to see that people realize how important this issue is, how it is the heart of all the issues in the international law, how we should face it and how we can move towards... uh solution, to state solution, a realistic decent solution in any case, if we
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push all together, i haven't seen something like that since the iraqi war, as been in the and we're more now, and we're generations, and the're people who are in political fractions that fight with each other, but not for palestine, for palestine, we're all together there, uh, we talked about people and communities around the world, politicians. um have also been joining public opinion, public voices around the world calling for pretty much the same thing. in the us, law maker, democratic uh representative corey bush and other progressive lawmakers have held a press conference with union leaders in calling for a cease fire in gaza as the israeli bombardment enters its third month. the biten administration has shown unease over israel's failure to reduce civilian casualties and its plans for the future of gaza, but it continues. to offer wholehearted support for israel campaign with weapons and diplomatic
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backing as we've been speaking representatives to lead the world seen enough slaughter and devastation, peace is the only path forward, while we call for a cease fire, we also condemn antisemitism, islamophobia, anti-arab racism, all of which are growing in our nation at this moment and must be stopped. this is a reckoning moment. the entire body of international law, a system the united states helped design in the wake the horrors of the holocaust is being crumbled as the us allows these war crimes to continue. our standing in the world as a peacon of hope, nation that respects the rule of law is class. saying: labor unions are not just means for fair wage, they're fundamentally means for building power. as
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the us funds israel's campaign of terror, we, the workers are footing the bill for the massacre of innocence in palestine. this is the time for workers to leverage our labor power and electoral power, to stand in uncompromising solidarity with the cause of palestinian freedom. fahim muhammad is back with the sequel to her first stent unpacking the coverage of the gazan genocide. fahim, good to have you back. um, "starting with the most powerful pro israel lobby in the uk, in the us, in the us, yes, we have apac, as we know, a group that really does uh have lot of influence and lot of money. so i think if we want to answer most of the questions that we're discussing today, let's follow the money and we'll understand why a lot of these ministers, politicians are actually still pro israel. as the pro israel lobby become stronger than your vote, if you've been following the mass public descent pushing for seaspire in gaza, you might be wondering why are america's elected officials ignoring their constituents? maybe it's because many
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have been heavily influenced by monetary contributions from the biggest pro israel lobbying group in the us. apac, the american israel public affairs committee and its political action committee, the united democracy project, work to fill congress with politicians who will back america's unwavering support for israel. last year, apac supported 365 pro-israel candidates with more than $17 million statistics are astounding, and the fact that um they actually want to deepen that pocket in order to influence um in 20 2024 basically um calling for more sort of funding because even whoever they support always wins the election and uh that probably explains the uh biting administration history there's a history uh secretary of state anthony blincon there too at the apec uh conference um where does your next story take us? well again i think it's nice to reflect as to uh the actual state of
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uh palestinians when it comes to the children when it comes to the women when it comes to the elderly when it comes to... babies, um, israel kidnaps and arrests 142 palestinian girls and this is not something new just for this, specific war and genocide, it is ongoing, but it hasn't stopped and it's continuous, and again we see this where nobody is accountable, responsible or taking care or questioning any of these things that are happening. the palestinian prisoners club has said that the israeli regime has detained some 4,000. yeah, since the 7th of october, and they're not all from the west bank, are they? no, they're not. all right, let's continue the conversation with my guests, both here in the studio and on skype. i'm going to go to lamprini for the next one. um, we're approaching christmas, the christmas period. it is a period that is dear to many
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people across the globe, especially in relation to the palestinians, surely, the bombing carrying on. seams even more inhumane, but it's but a swift end, as we've been describing over the past hour, seems unlikely, and you see that the churches, all the christian churches in palestine decided not to celebrate this year, i mean the liturgies will happen, but only that, and of course you saw the picture of little jesus, palestinian little jesus in the rabbles that the lutheran church put there, it's awful. and because most of the palestinian christians are orthodox like us, we, i mean, like the greeks, we feel even more embarrassed by this, not celebrating, not being able to see the most, the biggest news for us, yeah, as that, but only having tears and destruction and hunger and disease, and
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that murderous regime of bibi netanyahu on you. i would like to add something if you don't mind, apac is very, yes, yes, very briefly, apac is the only foreign agent who is not a foreign, doesn't have to register as foreign agent in the united states and that tells a lot, there sure is and zamzam, i will ask you second question later, but since you're a climate activist, there's a real concern here about the landscape of gaza, the destruction of all the buildings, the carpet. um, the physical environment destroyed, the subterranean equiper endanger, white phosphorus, accusations of that having been used, other toxins as a result of the explosions, what is it going to look like post bombardment, how do you explain that in in environmental terms? yeah, mean if you
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look, if you if you look at the messaging that's been coming out of of of israel government and pink washing. white washing, green washing um completely um and actually if you look at what has happened withingra specifically, not even looking outside of it, but specifically and you look at how the land has been completely leveled um and actually has become has land that was known to be infertile, very fertile land um is now probably unable to be used and unable to be rebuilt on um and that is complete destruction of of of the environment, it's it's it's everything that they say they stand for. and and so it's it's very very heartbreaking to see not only the destruction of people, communities, lands and accessory, but also um the very foundational land that we we need um and and we have conversations about. and you see if you look at satellite images, you can see the difference, the purpose here is to make gaza uninhabitable, just like a post-nuclear blast absolutely
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situation, yeah absolutely, and and and to think that we are having a conversation about if this is humanitarian crisis or not, it's it's heartbreaking, it's ridiculous to call pause humanitarian, yeah, no, absolutely not, all right, we're going to have to leave it there, and with those comments we're going to wrap up this show, many thanks again to my guest. for their contributions. gaza under attack will be back next week with more. until then, continue to keep palestine in your hearts. goodbye.
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استنى خالد يا ابن الواليد يا خالد يا ابن الواليد جبنا لك عريس جديد جبنا لك عريس كفير كفرين لا اله الا الله لا اله الا الله الشاهيد الله الشاهيد الله
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we do not support calls for immediate cease fire. this would only plant the seeds for the next war because hamas has no desire. to see a durable peace to see two state solution
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every single thing the israelis uh claim uh has happened to them is actually something they have done to the palestinians, just name it and it's something they did, like for example they said that on october 7th uh that babies were beheaded, this is a lie, but did israel behead babies? yes, what do you think happens when you drop bombs that that flatten entire buildings, people get decapitated, this is normal right uh, this is... all over
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gaza, not just babies, just people, all over people, losing their limbs, um, getting crushed by by you, cement, by by concrete, it's horrible, uh, and then they said babies were put an oven, it this didn't happen on october 7th, but before that uh, there is someone, a palestinian, i showed you the video, who literally he saw the israelis in front of him throw baby in an oven, and then the father in the oven as well, so no matter what you what the israel say, it's always projection, it's always something that they have done to the palestinians or the lebaneses or the syrians every single time, every time. when they say hamas or isis, israel are actually isis, when they say hamas are terrorists, israel is the terrorist. every single claim they make is a lie and it's projection. whenever you hear the israelis make a claim, you will always remember this, and then you you will understand that whatever comes out of their mouth is is 180 degrees the wrong way, it's it's completely upside down and it's projection. on thursday, january 29, 2004, a
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plane carrying lebanese prisoners landed under runway at beirot airport, but in this celebration, the chair of the only prisoner that was not released was empty, samir contar. israel on gaza claim scores of more innocent lives in northern and central parts of the besieg palestinian land.