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the group strikes. this is gaza under attack coming to you from the british capital, london. thanks for tuning in. stay with us for the next half hour for analysis of the different aspects of the ongoing israeli genocidal campaign in the gaza strip and other regional developments. first off, let's bring you up to speed with the latest developments. day 90, more us.
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backed israeli strikes pound civilian areas in gaza. more than 22,300 palestinians have been killed in relentless, israeli shelling in the past three months. occupation soldiers have killed at least one palestinian in overnight raids in the occupied west bank. to the north, the leader of lebanon's hezbullah resistance movement warns israel would pay heavy price for starting any war on his country. the warning came after the killing of a hamas leader in beirot. iran promises a harsh response after at least 84 people are killed in bomb blasts a ceremony marking the fourth anniversary of the assassination of top anti-terror commander. south africa files case against apartide israel at the international court of justice. can that stop the slaughter in gaza? and the eu foreign policy chief joseph burell warns the entire middle east might end up in flames if the tragedy in gaza doesn't end soon. well that have it. impact on european support for the
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israeli regime, joining me to discuss those questions and more in the studio is dr. matthew alford, author, filmmaker and lecturer of politics, languages and international studies at the university of bath, and via skype from johannesburg, south africa, naim jinna, the executive director of the johannesburg-based afromid center, his research areas include the geopolitics of the menar region, security. and south african and african politics, gentlemen, thank you very much for being here. um, let's kick things off with you, matthew, um, we are at the three month mark, but what i want to ask you is how you think the media coverage of this unfolding genocide has changed, we've gone from the tail of the 40 beheaded burnt babies, to israel's refusal, to um allow
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journalists, international investigators into the gaza strip to today, where we see it all of continuing relentlessly? well, maybe there's been a slight change, perhaps a slight improvement, um, do i have to come on television and the first thing i say is i condemn hamas, do i have to do that at the beginning of everything? uh, i guess maybe not now, um, so perhaps there's been an opening up of uh of discourse a little bit, um, "i mean, when when i was last here on this sofa, which i think was in november of last year, we were talking about the uh, the possibility and the assumption, the collective assumption that i think we all had, yeah, that this conflict would wind up in december, and i remember talking to you specifically about it, saying, but what happens if it doesn't, what happens if they want to carry it on into early next year, and that's when there's this real possibility for escalation, that's what's happened." "i mean
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the worst, not the worst case quite, but near to right near to the worst case scenario has happened with israel now talking about a war lasting all year as well, presumably that will they intend that to slightly tail off towards the end, but you were talking about december 2023 for this to finish, not december 2024, as what will happen in terms of the media coverage, of course it will um, it will become more balanced and and and also shift against israel over time, is that because of the sheer'? number of people who have been murdered, the brutality, the disproportionality of the israeli genocide, you can never have something as one-sided for as long, eventually facts catch up with um with ideology and facts catch up with fiction, um, it's the same thing if you remember back to the uh the uh the nordstream uh oil pipeline uh bombing uh in the middle of 2022 yeah uh "at the beginning there was
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total silence on that, um, and the reason there was total silence was, basically everyone knew that nato did it, probably with ukraine, but everyone kind of wanted to blame russia." 'yeah, and then after two or three months there was more coverage of, oh, well, it happened, it's important, but maybe russia did it, yeah, and then eventually it took about six months, nine months before uh, before reality caught up, it's the same kind of pattern we have in a lot of was, lot of um, really good reporting, lot of good academic work um and coverage comes out after about after about year, but that's the problem, you've always got this year-long window where there's an absolute disaster happening before, civil society uh can really kick in with the sort of untouchable factual content, we've seen civil society of course express themselves in in the form of protests in the streets of london and capitals across the western world and the rest of the world.
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um and then we've seen countries take concrete direct action to try and put it into this, one country that's done it is south africa and it's experienced with apartide yeah and and that actually is the question i want to first put to our skype guest um naim um and naim the the significance uh of south africa's move to report israel to the icj that israel is not a member of but understand israel is a party to the genocide convention and so it might be held accountable moving forward you know all un member states are members the statute of the icj, it's not like the icc, both israel and south africa and both are signataries to to the genocide convention, the significance, i mean there's a few significances, one is of course that it's south africa that's doing it, which symbolically is not legally, but symbolically
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is is significant, but more importantly that the application that south africa has put in, 84 pages of it, really reads and as you know very great indikement on humanity, and it pulls together all of these actions that israel has undertaken over almost three months, it pulls together all of the genocidal statements and and statements of intent that have been made by israeli politicians etc. over the past three months and presents that to the court as evidence that there is a genocide taking place, i think from that. perspective, what it's doing is is compiling and making a case for the kind of intention that israel, mean many of us believe has always had, but certainly in in the past few months has, and then thirdly and finally, i just want to say that, that i
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think that it's also significant in that a political or diplomatic level, despite the fact that the general assembly has overwhelmingly called for. fire for israel to stop its bombing, the united states has held that whole diplomatic process to ransom through the security council. what south africa is now doing is saying that let's take the legal route, this is the route that that at this stage, at least the united states cannot exactly, and we perhaps can discuss that even further a little later on, but for now the european union's top diplomat joseph burell has urged calm after the assassination of senior hamas leader saluri in a strike in beirot that killed the most senior resistance leader since the bombardment of gaza started three months ago. burell said, and i quote, the risk that what happened in 2006 can
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happen again an open war, unfortunately, is risk that is not insignificant. he was of course referring to the month-long war between israel and lebanon. in 2006. here's more. the risks that what happened in 2006 can happen again. an open war unfortunately is risk that is not insignificant. and what happened yesterday with the death of one of the leaders of hamas is one more factor that can escalate the conflict. i had and still have a schedule trip to the middle east starting in lebanon. i hope this trip can still go ahead because it's very important to. in touch with the lebanese government and the jordanian government in the arab countries to explore paths for solutions for the conflict in israel and palestine, but we don't know how the situation will be regarding the lebanese airspace tomorrow. are you foreign policy chief joseph there? um,
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matthew, your takeaway from what we heard, your reaction, josephl's garments, i don't mean to be alarmist, but i think going back to the 2006 war um is one thing, but it could be lot worse than that if it does really bring in uh iran. i think there are a lot of other points of of conflict in uh in syria and in iraq uh at the moment as well that make it different and perhaps more explosive than the... 2006 situation as well as very volatile situation in the united states um where we just don't know who's going to be in um really strong idealogues um on on part of israel and if trump does get in in the united states in november of this year um we don't really know what he's going to do, he seems to hate benjamin netanyahu, he seems to be um more of a um uh an isolationist on foreign policy, but he's also very unpredictable. and eratic um and in fact he was the person that ordered the assassination of general solomon
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uh four years ago um which has had ramifications even uh even just the last few days so i i think that the a war with lebanon does sound possible um very possible but um i'm worried about the whole region going up in flames frankly and i really hope and pray that that does not occur um but if we look at year of israel off the handle um with those kind of public statements talking about hundreds of thousands of people or even millions of people as animals with a plan to send them into the sini, it is this year is so unpredictable um that i i just think uh i don't think we should make comparison to 2006 i think we need to put a break on it for all reasons and all reasons now a name what joseph brarell also has said is in his words, i believe that we have to uh what that we
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have learned in these 30 years that the solution has to be imposed from outside because the two parties will never be able to reach an agreement, he told event in in lisbon um recently, and that uh if this strategy doesn't end soon, this tragedy rather, the entire middle east may end up in flames, what do you make of those comments that solution has to be imposed? um on israel and the palestinians? let's let's remind ourselves that this bolel is the same guy who not too long ago refer to all of you in europe as living in a garden and all of us in the global south as living in jungles, so i don't have great respect for anything that he says, but also his sudden concern now about what is happening and possibility of escalation, why? he's not really concerned about lebanese lives or palestinian lives, he's concerned about israeli lives. and perhaps an explosion in that region, i'm sorry to differ with you, matthew, but but
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perhaps an explosion is is what is required, the notion that solution needs to be imposed, it's, i mean it's it's foreign imposition by the likes of borell, europeans and americans that have led to what we are looking at now, this genocide can only take place because it has been supported by the united states and frankly by europe, despite recent kind of uh proclamations of concern as he is now issuing, 75 years of occupation can could only have taken place because of britain and because of europe and because of of the united states and the global north, 17 years of siege on ghazza could only have taken place with their support, with the european union support, the same organization that he's a policy chief of, they have enabled this genocide, they have encouraged this genocide. and so when he expresses concern now, i frankly don't care about his concern,
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mean i'd be very happy if if if senior politicians in israel were were taken out right now, and that sounds violent and it is, because that is what is required, otherwise we're going to see genocide continuing, so no, i don't care about what borel and his associates have to say frankly, um, take it with a pinch of soul at least, the the israelian. ambassador matthew to the uk person who doesn't believe in any kind of solution so it seems um was talking to uk radio as early as today i guess saying essentially calling for all of gaza to be raised to the ground and she's not the only person who has done it as we all know watch israel's i24 and you will see that language all the time citing japan the nuking of japan by the americans hong kong previously. during world war, clearly there is no attempt to spare the non-combatents, uh, yeah, i mean,
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and that's a diplomat, that's someone being diplomatic, i mean it's it's a crazy situation, um, i think to compare uh, there have always been atrocities in war and the bombing of uh, fire bombing of dresden. and the uh nuclear destruction of hiroshima and nagasaki were obviously um uh we might well consider them at the time and indeed looking back as necessary evils. but it still doesn't stop the fact that they were war crimes as well um and also in the certainly in the case of um nagasaki it was not necessary so as much as we might sympathize with the leaders for doing these horrible things and say well it's part of the situation then it was the second world war what do you expect we still have to call out that for being illegal for
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those actions being illegal in the same way that we can all be sympathetic with all sides any point during violence situation, but um, but i think it's incumbant upon us to really to pull back from that, um, and and to try and see those opportunities for peace. all right, well, it's just a quick reminder about to people who must have might have just tuned in, you're watching gaza under attack, where we unpack some of the biggest talking points emerging from the israeli genocide in blockated gaza, with the in the wake of warning by the un of a public health disaster in gaza. where even urgent medicine has not been able to get through. we spoke to dr. hussein kariem, emergency medicine physician in daras salam, tanzania and asked him how doctors like him were coping, watching the medical calamity unfold in the besieged coastal. i am emergency physician by profession in a novel and evolving field in
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my country in emergency medicine and every day we battle with trauma and with accidents and emergencies of all sorts, currently i'm actually horrified, i am flabbergasted as a medical personnel as a medical professional to see and hear about the attacks that have happened on al shifa hospital, on ratissi, nasar pediatric hospital, kuds hospital, all the others in gaza, and they have killed so many people in all these hospitals including health care personnel as well as people who are sick and wounded and "the premature babies, newborn babies on life supports have been dying, they have been power cuts, fuel, oxygen supply is not available. over the last 36 days, around a month plus, there have been so many attacks, more than 140 attacks and healthcare in gaza, and honestly speaking as a medical professional, i can only just imagine the situation of where you working
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long hours in a hospital without proper equipment, without the resource. is without the availability of any support, any help, any aid, and people are just dying, left, right and center. i can imagine the fear, i can imagine the rage, the grief and the helplessness echoed in the few text messages that were able to get through from the medical professionals in gaza, saying that we are alone now, there is no one to help us, there have been some inspirational figures in the... professionals like for example dr. alo who was the last nephrologist present in one the hospitals there, or refused to believe that his life was more important or more words than the people of gaza and the people of palestine and refused to leave and to my great south. um, i think these attacks on medical facilities and on these civilians are
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absolutely unacceptable, and there are a violation of the international humanitarian and human rights. law and conventions after world war ii there was a geneva conference where the entire united nations set down and made statements and made a law in line with the with the with the geneva convention and the hippocratic oaths that hospitals should not be attacked even in a war zone, but time and again we saw it in syria and in rwanda and in central africa and in yemen and in so many... other wars that hospitals end up becoming, they end up becoming targeted areas for attack, and this is inhumane, because even according to the international humanitarian law, hospital should not be attacked for both sides, regardless of which party is in it, but of course it's all a ruse
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because what is going on in gaza and what's going on in palestine right now is completely... genocide and it's a wipe out, because when you start targeting the wounded and the ill and the sick and you cut off all supply of all resources, a personal level, i cannot imagine the situation going on right now with people dying left, right and center because of the inavailability of the most basic healthcare and the most basic requirements to deal with the emergencies and to deal with other conditions. the humanitarian situation in gaza continues to deteriorate, the un spokesperson for secretary general antonio guteres has told reporters that the office for the coordination of humanitarian affairs. is warning that gaza is a public health disaster in the making, health agencies also say that recent mass displacements are fueling disease outbreaks, which could lead to thousands more
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deaths. maintenance of ocha has warned that gaza is a public health disaster in the making and recent mass displacement across southern gaza is fueling disease outbreaks. more than 40 400 thousand cases of infectious diseases have been reported since october 7th with some people suffering from upper respiratory infections. there have also been more than 136,00 cases of diarrhea reported, half among children are under the age of five. humanitarian partners continue to address the critical lack of hygiene and safe drinking water in gaza, despite ongoing challenges to response efforts. we and our humanitarian partners have been unable to deliver urgently needed lifesaving humanitarian assistance north of wadi gaza for three days due to delays and denials as well as active conflict. this includes medicines that would have provided vital support to more than 100 thousand people for 30 days, as well as eight trucks of food for
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people who currently face catastrophic and life-threatening food insecurity. humanitarian organizations are calling for urgent safe sustained and unhindered humanitarian access to areas north of wadi gaza, which has been suvered from the south for more than a month. let me put this next question. to you, there's been word talk of a drawdown of iof, israeli occupation forces soldiers ahead of visit by secretary of state, anthony clinton, blincon rather, of the u.s. to the region, and after the bidon administration bypass congress for the second time this month to approve an emergency weapon sale to israel, um, what is your reading into that? "it could be a way of saying to the americans that by the israelis that they are kind of considering or taking on board some of the mild, i don't even want
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to say criticism that has come from the from the white house about israels attack on on hospitals and civilians etc. but the other part of this of course is that the the occupation forces in gaza over the past weeks have been..." getting what, mean the the giolani brigade at withdraw because it lost such a large number of soldiers and such a large number amount of equipment that it was no longer sustainable to keep it there, it it has been pulled out and perhaps it will be restaffed and and sent back in, but the point is that they are taking such losses that this kind of turn around turnover in terms of so... and and and equipment is very high, so i don't think that is just the political angle for why the movement of forces out is happening, i think it's also military, and as
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much as netanyahu might say that he wants to continue until the end of the year, this is a big consideration for the israelis, how long can they last militarily? that is very good question, how long can they last militarily? well, thank you very much, we're going to have to leave it there. uh, that's a wrap for this edition of gaza andro attack. um, many thanks once again to both my guests for their contributions. we'll be back tomorrow with more. until then, keep palestine in your hearts and spread the word. goodbye.
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israel's economy is now in a crisis as it was hit by double wamy this year, the so-called judicial overhaul and the us israel genocidal war. the uh water in gaza, the uh ethnic cleansing which borders on genocide, i think is costing israel a great deal in terms of of money. the regime is also suffering massively due to the boycott campaign. these are young professionals, lot of college students, they're going to have an impact on this region for the years down the road, they'll be the... new generation that will join people like malaysia. join us in this edition of economic divide where we look at how israel's economy is suffering.
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top stories here on press tv, day 92 of us really genocidal war on gaza, now european human rights monitor says 4% of the gaza population is. killed, injured or missing. now to event the assassination of a hamas official in beirot, lebanon's hezbulah fires more than 60 rockets on israel's main military base. and iraq's islamic resistance scales up attacks on us military facilities in iraq in syria, including altanaf base in southern syria.