hello and welcome to press tv spotlight, i'm marsia hashimi, thanks so much for being with us, it has been more than... three months since the israeli genocide on gaza has been taking place, from bombs falling on their heads to being ordered to move from place to place without any fuel to not having enough food or water, gozans literally live in hell. now the majority of the 2.5 million palestinians are internally displaced and living intense. residents feel that any moment could be their last one alive as israeli regime continues to indiscriminately hit anywhere from homes to hospitals to... un

run schools, nowhere is sacred, and no one is safe. well, with this backdrop, us secretary of state anthony blincan calls on the israeli regime to do more to protect civilians in gaza. well, i'd like to welcome my guest to the program. daniel mcadams, executive director of ron paul institute out of lake jackson texas. glenn dyson, professor of political science, university of southeastern norway out of oslo. thank you both for being with me. well, let's start this off uh uh in texas. daniel, i'd like to hear your thoughts on the u.s. secretary of state currently calling for the israeli regime to do more to protect civilians in gaza. i mean, what exactly does that mean? well, what is this his fourth trip? what have they had to show for it? absolutely. nothing at this point do

more to protect civilians, well they've already completely destroyed the civilian infrastructure, the 23,000 plus civilians who have been slaughtered, now that's just the tip of the iceber, because now i'm so sorry, i'm so sorry, i'm going to interrupt you because i'm having some audio difficulties, hopefully we can take care of that and i'll come back to you, so sorry, glenn, i'll i'll propose that same question then to you, what exactly does the us secretary of state means when he says that? well uh, i i would agree with yeah, the former account of it, i think that it's very little, very late because uh, gaza has been uh completely leveled, they destroyed the entire gaza strip uh, again uh, thousands of civilians, the majority of dead are women and children, uh, so the israelis have already raised gaza to the ground and to now call for restraint, not... is it late,

but it also seems somewhat disingenous because uh, this is not just the you know the united states as a third party giving recommendations or trying to pressure israel, this is also an american war on palestine, because this americans provides the finance, it's the americans provides the weapons, so if the americans wanted this war to be over, they could do it by tomorrow by simply cutting off the israelies, so they do have huge leverage uh... to put pressure on israel, but again this is not what they're doing, i think they they want to have it both ways, they would like to provide their full support to israel to destroy gaza, and at the same time they want to pretend as if they abide by you know human rights and that they're concerned for the death of civilians, so it's it doesn't seem very serious, i think uh, it's a way of warm. up or trying to get

on the good side of various uh arab leaders uh you know among the gulf states as uh blincan is going a tour to try to win some sympathy and uh uh yeah win this leaders over so i i wouldn't see it being more serious than this uh than the marketing campaign okay well uh daniel hopefully uh the audio is uh better now far too many innocent palestinians have already been killed so this is according to blincan, what an amazing discovery after at least 23,00 people have been murdered in gaza and more than three months have passed, i mean why does he make such a statement like for too many innocent palestinians have been killed? i mean, what does that mean unless you're actually trying to stop the killing? well, they've been killed with american weapons and american money, so he should know better than anyone, how many have been killed? i mean, the man is a complete empty suit, he's got dead eyes, uh, and... just

before he was traveling to israel, he said that the us conditions all military aid on strict adherance to international and humanitarian law, mean he said something like that with the straight. face and the 30 some thous people that have been killed as i started off saying before we had the problem, that's just the tip of the iceberg uh, because as we know many times that number are going to die after you've just completely destroyed the infrastructure, there's no medicine left, there's no shelter, there's no food, so there'll be many many times more, so for him to say now that well the try to if you can, can you please try to curtail the killing, they've already put things, they've already put the the the measures in place to kill far... far more more people, and let me just stay with you, daniel, when we look at that situation, you said they've already put the measures in place to kill far more people, what is it that the united states is getting out of this, why does it give this blind support to israel? well, it's

interesting, i mean a biding ministry, now let's not forget this is a dysfunctional administration, but also let's remember the support for israel is biparted and is the most bipartisan thing in washington dc is the one that both parties with very few exceptions can agree on, which is a blind support for israel and a disregard for actual us national interests which aren't in supporting israel by any stretch of the imagination uh, there really is nothing in it for the administration, but president biden set the stage initially after the october 7 situation where he flew over to israel and basically gave them the green light to do anything they wanted, we're not going to put any breaks on, you can do whatever we want, whatever you want, and by the way, here's the money and weapons to... so even bypass congress twice now to send more weapons to israel illegally without congressional approval, so it's a newjerk reaction, but the interesting thing develop, the interesting development here is that something very different has happened, which is that public opinion in the united states for once is not

going along with the leadership. now recent polls have showed that barely half of americans and that includes republicans and evangelical christians, barely half of american... support aid to israel, that's the first time in history, so something is shifting in the united states and it's very, very important. all right, well crossing back over now to oslo and glenn, i mean since the start of this onslaught in october, we've seen many officials worldwide talking about the inhumanity taking place in gaza during the war on kids, but not really any international organizations nor countries for that matter, they have been... able to bring this war to an end, why not? well, i don't think there has been any real desire or any real effort, i mean even call for a cease fire is hasn't been done, i think why what what what really happened is over, well over

the past decades uh, i think the us and his uh partners have always been almost an autopilot to provide unconditional support for israel, and of course on the 7th of october when hamas. uh sprung this attack in which civilians were killed, i think there was this immediate instinct to again provide full uh un unconditional support for israel uh and again israel could do no wrong, this was effectively the argument from the the leaders and then of course the the israeli began to well what many so as taking advantage of this by effectively carrying out an operation of ethnic cleansing to well remove the... palestinians from from gaza either kill them or or drive them off the land and they're already talking about annexing the region so uh so once it went from bad to worse i think it was difficult for many western leaders to walk this back in terms of taking more critical position but i

think as uh as this becomes evident it's not just ethnic cleansing it's also genocide, i think more leaders are now feeling that they have to at least take a... oracle critical view in which they criticized the excessive use of violence, but still commit themselves to the usual slogans that israel has a right to exist without specifying within what borders, for example, and and so i think this is the direction that they're taking it, so again provide some verbal criticism for israel while not actually doing anything to stop the bloodcheck. right, right. well, um, daniel, after everything that the israeli regime has done is doing, what are your thoughts on the comments made by the french foreign minister who said that iran and its affiliates must stop destabilizing acts which could spark a broader conflict in the middle east? well, projection is the is the one

unified western foreign policy, always accuse others of what you're doing, uh, hence the endless accusations that putin invades. ukraine and is attacking ukraine when in fact it was ukraine attacking russians in eastern ukraine for so many years and this is the situation in the u.s. a failure of diplomacy is a failure. to objectively understand the world as it is, not as you wish it were, and that's the problem with the neocons, the neoconservatives who run washington, they don't see the world in a realistic way, they see it as they wish it were, and so they completely fail to understand or to take into account the domestic considerations within israel, now netanyahu has has been facing for years extreme pressure uh from both sides, he's been an enormous amount of legal pressure, legal problems that have amounted their... thousands and thousands of people demonstrating uh in front of his residence every day, that's never reported in the

western media, and so october 7th seemed to me to be very convenient way for him to appease the radical settlers on the right, who really, and they have been completely open, i'm not conjuring this out of thin air, they are looking for final solution to the palestinian problem, and in different varying ways of saying that, there have been several israeli politicians, overtly said that, and even netanyahu himself has said we need to resettle palestinians outside of palestine, so it's the most open and i would almost say honest incidence of ethnic cleansing we've seen in many, many decades. well, excuse me, glenn, blincon also said while he was in the region that palestinians must be allowed to return to their homes after the war must not be displaced from gaza, this as israeli regime officials as - just pointed out, continue to make inflammatory and genocidal statements about the removal of the majority

of gaza's population. let's talk about these different perspectives that are given off publicly, what does it mean when the us is saying this, israel is saying this, um, do you think there really is a difference of opinion or how do you assess that? i think it's a different way of framing it or marketing oneself, because you're correct, there is very contradictory message. on one hand, the israelies are very openly stating that you want again more or less a final solution, they they don't want to have the palestinians there anymore, meanwhile the the the united states is arguing that you know the they're not deliberately targeting civilians, so there's obviously a disconnect and uh um yeah in terms of you know we we see the same with expanding the war the you know the americans are warning oh the you know the war might expand like there's some third party but uh again, they're the one participating in the genocide, they're they're assisting and supporting striking

lebanon, striking uh yemen, striking iraq, syria, and and most likely behind this terrorist attack in iran as well, so it's just it's it's very strange that the ritoric it doesn't seem to coincide with the actions that are being taken, so i i don't see much that much difference on the european side. i think they would like to uh try to maintain some of the humanitarian uh image and reputation, but but still i don't think that will translate into any various yes restrictions on on israel or or actually putting pressure. well, speaking of the european side, the italian foreign minister daniel has said that g7 major powers are working with israel to secure a rapid in to. devastating war in gaza and to reduce civilian casualties, i mean what are your thoughts on this statement and the use of the

word rapid uh when it has already been more than three months since the start of this genocide? yeah, you're closing the barn door when the horses are already out is essentially what they're doing. i think the professor makes a great point, they're trying to save face now at this point when the damage has already been done, they're going to go back to their homes, what homes are they gonna going are they going to go back to? anyone who bothers to have look at what it looks like in gaza right now and understand? "there's no issue of going back to the homes and forget about just the physical buildings, the infrastructure is completely destroyed, water, sanitation, we've seen uh horrific pictures of raw sewage in the streets in gaza, uh, it's a complete disaster and impossible to go back to, but you know, i would, i would point out there is kind of schizophrenia in the professor again makes a great point, which is that on the one hand the us is escalating and encouraging the escalation of this, on the other hand, they're telling israel don't escalate, there was a fascinating article in the in the washington..." post yesterday, and now we should read the washington post like the soviet citizens read prov day in the old

days, which is you're you're seeing what the deep state wants you to think, and it's a fascinating piece talking about the dangers of escalation, and i think it's the deep state trying to find a way out of this, and they highlight for example, defense intelligence agency uh investigation showing that if israel expands the war completely uh against hezballah in the north, it may not survive. may not win and the losses could be, i think the number was three to 500,00 on both sides for a massive war, so they're clearly looking for a way out of this, while at the same time what kinds of uh what kinds of sticks do they have, they a blinking only comes with carrots, here's more money, please stop killing palestinians, no, we want to keep doing it, thanks very much, can you please send us more money, okay, here's more money and weapons, the you, i mean, this is an absolute complete failure, i've never seen such incompetence in diplomacy, probably in the history of the world, is it incompetence, so daniel, is it incompetence or has it been

created to do exactly what it's doing, on the one hand, to show... um, as the professor said, that they actually really want to end this conflict, but at the same time continuing and allowing the conflict to go on. well, there's no peace camp in washington dc. now americans, as i mentioned earlier, are not in favor of continuing or escalating support for israel, particularly and interestingly enough when you look at younger americans who don't have the same baggage, the support for israel is much, much lower among young americans, you see lot more protests, hence the crackdowns on free speech in the us. universities that we've seen uh, but absolutely washington dc is walking lockstep, and if biden, if biden does anything to deescalate, well he'll have the republicans on his back saying, biden is showing weakness in the middle east, why aren't we bombing yemen already, why aren't we bombing iran, they're gonna go lindsay on everyone uh, if biden even does show some diplomacy, so i grant that to you, that's a

very, very a very good point, uh, crocodile tears are being cried, i think, well, glenn, do you think that these western countries or western regimes have totally discredited themselves since this genocide has started? um, i mean, your assessment of that, whether we're talking about the united states, we start off with the united states, we look at the uk and we look at the uh the other european powers and what they have said and what they have done, and then to see that this genocide is continuing, your assessment? no, i think definitely, and this is something that's recognized in the in the western media, as well which is uh that the you know the americans and europeans have been really over the past two years been lobbing the global south very heavy to portray the russians as these evil imperialists while the west stand on the side of you know human rights and decency in human dignity and then uh again this is also based on their false

narrative of course but then we then we have this uh war now against the palestinians and and it it's all thrown away, we you know we we have our leaders watching and enabling a genocide happening and can't even uh ask for a for for a cease fire and uh so i i think it's uh some of it is caused by you know simply blind loyalty to the united states from for the europeans because two years ago there might have been more opposition uh but but these days especially after two years of you having a war in europe, the europeans have become completely obedient to the united states and the us no longer prioritizes his own national interest above serving israel, so there's something very, very irrational which is happening, because this is this, it's very hard for me to even understand how this is in us interest to to, to to alienate

themself among all this countries in the middle east uh... and set israel in in this position when when it's effectively go to war against everyone, one of the strength of israel has always been to isolate all the other ones, pin the regional actors against each other and then target one state, but what's happening now, this this just it does make any sense, even if you would want to exterminate the palestinis, this this seems to be very strange way to go about it, so it's uh for me it's very very rational what's happening, daniel, how do you see this play? itself out on the one hand uh glenn just said that basically uh the us are actually doing creating our uh having policies that it's not in the national interest, you talked about the growing number of young people who actually are against the israeli regime, but at the same time this genocide is continuing, your assessment of this, do you think that

they want to just continue basically just wearing down the palestinians and that this will be extended or? "how do you see it playing out at this point in time? well, probably they're counting on fatigue among americans who are tired of seeing if if they've seen any suffering palestinians, they'll be sired it. and we have very low, very short attention span in the us, when uh, when zelensky was the flaver of the month, uh, we all wanted to, not me, but america wanted to wear ukrainian flags, and then they dropped them as quickly as they could, when he was no longer the flavor of the month, but i think in terms of how do i see it playing out, i think one of the things we're not reading about, and this was..." reported earlier today uh, which is that the uh the israeli government announced in advance of blincan's arrival another very large drawdown of its troops from gaza, and i think that can mean uh one of a couple of things, first of all, and it's not being reported, which is that the israelies have been very good at killing unarmed civilians, but they've not been as competent in fighting hamas fighters,

and that is fact, you're looking, i mean, we've seen, i've seen hundreds of videos of hamas fighters using essentially homemade rpg weapons to blow up israeli tanks, apparently there have been thousands of casualties in terms of dead and severely wounded that have been admitted by the def' ministry of israel, so you have israel actually going to toe with hamas that is adept at urban warfare, and they have been gifted by the idf so many firing positions by the blowing up of gaza, these guys can hide anywhere, the israeli soldiers have said, we're fighting ghosts here, it's not going well for the israeli military on the ground, and the israeli economy, remember these are hundreds of thousands of of people that have been constripted. they would be driving buses or whatever they do there, there are not doing that, the economy is in shambles, these guys are getting killed and now they're looking for a way out, i think, but one of the ways

out maybe to expand the war to to lebanon with the understanding that the us will back israel up, that we have to continue this hopefully another time, but we are out of time, i appreciate both of you uh being with me, glenn dyson, professor of political science university of south. eastern norway out of oslow and daniel mcadams, executive director, ron paul institute of lake jackson, texas and thank you viewers for being with us on another spotlight, i'm marse hashimy, signing out for myself and all the crew right here in tehran, hope to see you right here next time.

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israel's economy is now in a crisis as it was hit by double whamy this year, the so-called judicial overhaul and the us israel genocidal war. the uh slaughter in gaza, the uh ethnic

cleansing which borders on genocide, i think uh is costing israel a great deal in terms of of money. the regime is also suffering massively due to the boycott campaign. these are young... professionals, lot of college students, uh, they're going to have an impact on this region for the uh years down the road, there'll be the new generation that will join people like malaysia, join us and this this of economic divide where we look at how israel's economy is suffering.

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israeli-american genocide continues to rage on in gaza as a palestinian death tool surpasses. 23 thousand mostly women and children. bolivia says it will join a case file by south africa and the international court of justice against israel for committing genocide in gaza. and israel forces killed three palestinian men in a violent raid in occupied west bank city of tucar.