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tv   Gaza Under Attack  : PRESSTV  January 19, 2024 12:02am-12:30am IRST

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everyone is hungry, the united nations says israel is destroying gaza's food system and weaponizing food. hello and welcome back to gaza under attack comside puriza in london. before anything, here's a recap of some of the latest developments of the past 24 hours. dozens of palestinians have been killed or wounded in israeli air strikes on several areas. in the gaza strip over the past 24
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hours as the occupation regime presses ahead with its genocidal war against the beseached territory. the un says gazans now make up 80% of all people facing famin or catastrophic hunger worldwide, marking an unprecedented humanitarian crisis in the blockaded territory. at the world economic forum in davos, the un secretary general antonio guteresh has once again appealed for immediate cease. in the gaza strip. also at the forum, the palestinian authority minister of social development was called for pressure on israeli authorities to open all of the crossings into the gaza strip to allow in relief and medical supplies. despite the impending famon and the carnage in gaza, germany's government is considering the delivery of tank ammunition to the israeli regime with us approval. since the start of of the aggression, the israeli regime has killed at least. 24,500 palestinians, mostly women
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and children, and injured at least 61,500 more. on this program, carol swords, humanitarian campaigner. carol is a long-time pro-palestinian advocate and even prowder great grandmother, via skype from leads, author and imam of babel, sheikh japar ladak. thank you very much to both of you for being. here, i'll uh start with you, carol, and i, i'm going to start with a quote from the american political scientist robert pape who said of the gaza massacre in the following words: gaza, quote, is one of the most intense civilian punishment campaigns in history. it now sits comfortably in the top quart of the most devastating bombing campaigns ever. speak to that. i won't say this sitting comfortably at all, would you?
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"how can we go back a little bit, germany be sending tanks, they should be sending aid, they should be 80% of the world's population starving, why aren't they sending food, why are they sending weapons with the us approval? it's unbelievable, i can't understand why a country called germany who should be..." realing what's going on, reeling, and and the people of germany must be like the people of the uk, having a government that's working against what the people really want, to send weaponry to kill more palestinians, 25,000, 25,00 people dead in gaza already, how how that's not and 60,000 injured, not counting the millions displaced where? i live, there's six little
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schools, maybe 300 kids in each school, that put that into some kind of perspective, that's every kid in every class in every school, dead, gone, well, no families, that's it, not not including their parents, their cousins, their aunts, their uncles, their grandparents, their dogs, their cats, gone, forever, never to come back, and they're still wanting to send weapons to kill more. belief that even the the the most stupid person in the world what even belief of something like that could be happening and the germans bought a missile system from the israeli regime just last year to the tune of hundreds of thousands of dollars sheikh ladak some of the most influential voices in the global stage are together at davos switzerland as we speak other than the lack of political will to stop the blood bath and
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what else do you think is preventing those leaders to act on what their publics have been demanding since day one which is an end to the hostilities in a word i would call it. "i think you can say that there's a lack of political will, i also think you can say that there is political cowardice at this moment, very very few nations have really stood up to support the palestinians, like we just heard from carol, from one perspective, you've got nations still israel with weapons during a time in which 100 children a day are being murdered from the skies with those weapons." the side you have um, for example yemen, who is the poorest nation in arabia across the middle east, west asia, and has been bombarded for 10 years or so, gone through its own famin, and yet it wants to be able to
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do whatever it can. there was a famous statement that came out from the deputy foreign minister of yemen, this week when the united states of america started attacking it with... its weapons and it said, we're pleased, we're genuinely pleased that we are now being bombed, because all of this last 100 days, we've been calling to stop the bombardment, but we couldn't tell you what we felt like with this bombardment, and now we're receiving it, so at least we have some equity between ourselves and our palestinian bretren, so you can see that the spectrum that there is available in the international scene, there's there's war criminals, there's maniacal. and there's others that are willing to be bombarded themselves just to be able to draw the eer, the eye of the spectra on them and away from gaz just for a little period of time if possible. in between that sits the rest of the world, those nations that are
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doing very very little, so i really feel that there's political cowardice on on on the face the majority of the world when you're seeing what we're seeing unfolding. we just heard carol mention um germany there, and as i mentioned at the top of the show, what really motivates germany um to do this, you instead of calling for a cease fire, for an end um to the blood shit, to the carnage, uh, they're proceeding with providing the israeli re regime with more weaponry, feeding weapons into the israeli war machine against the palestinian people, some people have have called it. holocaust guilt, what do you make of that? germany is famous not just only for the holocaust between 1935 and 19, 1939 and 1945, but also the first holocaust of the 20th century when it massacred thousands in
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namibia, it seems that either we can say that there is sort of this guilt, or worse we can actually say that there's something fundamentally wrong. with nation that consistently over the span of 120 years has been party to three genocides, and i feel that we should maybe stop giving germany this sort of free pass by calling it, this this this sort of guilt. if you truly had guilt, then you wouldn't be committing the same crimes over and over again, especially now in real time when there are things... like case at the icj putting forth a ton of evidence of the genocide that then you are going to be party too, i'm not sure we can call it guilt, i actually think that there's something fundamentally wrong with their political makeup in the way in which they are idealizing this particular event. you make a
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great point sheikh, we're going to uh stay with the world economic forum a bit longer. one of the speakers at the event was uh jordanian prime minister, bishher. who addressed the south african government's case against the israeli regime at the international court of justice saying his country would participate if called upon. let's listen it. we cannot today after the laps of 101 days from this military operation and and aggression that israel is embarked upon in gaza. we cannot today at all subscribe as as we have from day one that this "this is this is an aggression operation that operates in the context of self-defense, as we all understand it, self-defense in customer international law is a response to action that is instant, overwhelming, that needs no choice or means or moment for
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deliberation, and that has to be always conditioned by the two requisites of proportionality and necessity, and clearly in the context of this of those principles of custom" international law that are entreached in the caroline case uh all of this criteria is not something that's met by uh by the israeli reaction that has crossed all those boundaries and that have regrettably uh uh uh probably delved into uh elements of definitions uh contained in the geneva conventions about war crimes, about crimes against humanity uh and even arguably in many instances in cases if intent is shown in the context of uh actions that could lead to an act of genocide. i'll put my next question to carol and carol, you heard uh what the jordanian official had to say, the prime minister there, um, jordan being the country that um has seen the impact of displaced
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palestinians, there is a sizable um population of palestinian refugees there, um, how important is it for regional countries um to help push the case at the icj against israel and palestinians, why haven't they done it, why, why is it 105 days, why wait so long? "you no, we've got all, and i've i was fortunate i lived in jordan, and i've seen they're under stress, they're under stress, not only did they take palestinians, then they took the syrians and now they taking the palestinians again, and the people of jordan are getting angry, because there's not enough in the pot for everyone, and the other countries need to do their bit, you know, and it's all well and good saying, oh, let's put them here, let's put them there, these are people, this is their home. "palestine is at home, they don't want to leave their home, and the ic, they need to be told, it has to
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stop, we have to rebuild gaza, we have to take the siege off of gaza, we have to rebuild palestine and give palestinians the right to their homeland, it all these little sandbites, this that and the other, it's not going to work, people need their homes, no voluntary evacuation, which is the euphemism israel have been using for." ethnic lensing, well let's send them to africa, is that the latest one? why, why would they want to leave their homes? you know, why, why have they done, why have they persevered since 1948? if they had that choice then, they could have went off and made new life somewhere, this is their home, they're not going nowhere, it's where they live, and no matter what the bbc and all these other stations say like, oh, israel's got the right to self-defense, israel got this, israel's got that, israel's not israel, israel is palestine and people
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need to recognize that thing that it's palestine, and the palestinians need to be equal, they need to have equal rights and all this has to stop, and unless the the whole community, every community, not only jordan, not only the help from the poor people of the yemen and not only the lebanese resistance, everybody has to come in, they need to. up and when we've got governments like our own government in germany who are talking for the people where the people, you seen the millions of people on the streets week after week, day after day, they're not listening to us, they can't keep doing this and allowing these poor palestinians to suffer in the way they are. is the israeli regime simply thumbbing their nose at international institutions at this point? we've all heard with the israeli prime had to say about the genocide case against tel aviv that it's not going to stop them from carrying, continuing
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with this unfolding genocide. let me reverse the question if i may, when has the israeli regime not thumbed its nose at international institutions or at humanitarian institutions and organizations. if you just go back second to that question about jordan and then think about the second question that you've... jordan's military and peacekeeping forces are actually quite significant, potentially jordan can do lot on the border with palestine, its military is some 8.7% of his total gdp, that's not small, it has some 60,000 peacekeeping officers that have been experienced enough to go to places like angola, afghanistan, iraq, so they don't. not have experience of how to be able to intervene and give safety to people when
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needed, so again we need to ask these fundamental questions, like we asked previously, why are these nations not doing enough, why are some willing to step up and some unwilling to do anything other than talk at best, what do you think that is, we said earlier is political cowardice, i do feel that the normalization with israel has become so rampant amongst men the arab and middle east states that such so many of them have been put on the back foot that they don't know how to be able to get out of the pit that they've dug for themselves so... because of this is being an ongoing situation for decades now that it's now so difficult um to stop the israeli regime, which is why you ask that follow-up question, are they thumbing their nose? well, when have they not done that, and when have they received any pushback from any significant middle eastern nation? so if you've had an experience of being a bully for decades, why would you stop
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now? what would an case at the icj do? what would a meeting at davos really do? with respect, israel only understands the language of force and they've only seen the economic sanctions have done anything to them. at the moment, their international appeal or their their pr campaign is so trodden on, they have been exposed by every camera in the world and still they continue to commit genocide last night just around nusal hospital around khanus. bombing around another hospital, cutting off telecommunications, they they don't listen to logic, they don't listen to anything, only force and only an international community is going to be able to stop them, and cowardis and being on the backfoot is not going to support the palestinian course, the language of force, the language that any occupier seems to
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understand, um, just a quick reminder to our viewers that this is gaza under attack with me, porza where we zero in on news of and around these radio atrocities against palestinians a genocide in 2024 with the entire world watching it live without any serious efforts to stop it defies logic: two nations who have intervened include yemen and south africa. earlier we spoke to london-based barrister, activist and writer aisha khan and asked her if yemen was breaking any law by targeting vessels in the red sea legally, the american... have absolutely no right to be bombing yemen, in legal terms, under the un conventions and resolutions and decisions, and even the genocide convention itself, the one treaties, what the legal position actually is is that yemen as a state has the duty to, and if it
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sees genocide, to prevent it as it sees. bit, so actually the funny thing or what we have not seen in the media is going by the un's own documents and own judgments and resolutions. yemen is the only one by preventing these ships from giving supplies to israel, the only state acting in accordance with international law, the yemenes have not killed anyone, have not killed any of their citizens, and we can actually see the... in the rhetoric of joseph biden and rishi sunak and they're very clear when they speak about why they are taking military action and why it is and they've said it is for commercial interests to keep open commercial shipping lanes and to ensure that commercial ships are not blocked so they are very clearly saying they are protecting
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the interest in the private property of the rich and believe that this is a reason to bomb obviously this is... the reason to bomb, it's nothing to do with state security or national security, and at this point they're just acting as militas and billionaires and for private interest, which is not in their remit at all, and they're acting absolutely illegally. iia urged people from all over the world to write to judges at the icj in the south african case against israel to remind them of the importance of ruling in favor of palestinian lives and against tel avi. as we are not parties to these proceedings, we have there is no reason we cannot email the judges to remind them about the evidence and evidence obviously of children being having their limbs amputated, disabled children the mass amount of death in gaza, and this is simply to remind the judges that they are not
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state actors, they are jurists and that the primary concern is the law. and is basing their judgments on evidence - this is no different to what israel actually has done where they took a diplomatic mission to all these countries in order for their states to put pressure on these judges to make decisions in the state political interests and not a legal basis and i and we will see this in particular with the american judge who i absolutely doubt will vote for south africa's case and will be very... heavily swayed by israel based on the fact that she is in the pressure, diplomatic and political pressure from our own government and from israel, so if israel can try and pervert the course of justice, 'there is no reason why normal human beings, me and you, cannot send evidence to these judges to remind them that they are judges and they are not state
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actors. the human cost of the statistics detailing the killed and injured can sometimes be lost in the mir of analysis. an israeli strike a house in rafa has taken the lives of three members of family sheltering inside, the lament of the distraught father'. is a tragic reminder that the bombardment of gaza has left no family unscated. when the strike first hit, i woke up screaming massa, masa, not knowing what had happened. i was unaware of what was going on. i looked around and found that the bombing happened inside my home. where are my siblings? where are my children? thank god anyway. my daughter has been killed and my injured brother is in european hospital. while my second injured daughter is in the abu yusuf al-najar hospital. sheikh ladak, let's dick deeper a little bit if we can, on the action taken by
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south africa and yemen in solidarity with palestinians. um, what do you make of what they have done, and and as far as the south african uh genocide case against israel is concerned, what are your hopes and fears in terms of which way? the ruling will go, between these two great nations, we can see that many of the bases that need covering in this ongoing fight against israel is being covered, so from one perspective, you have legal case, you have a diplomatic side, and then from the perspective of yemen, we have a military campaign and th economic campaign to be able to stop this genocide that's taking place. "if you um take a step back and try to see um what the world is doing, the world is in many cases putting pressure points on all
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the different areas that it needs to, it's trying to put pressure at the governmental level, it's there's there's there's a media campaign especially through social media to try to raise awareness, people are taking to the streets, so there is so much being done to try to pressurize this entity to try to stop what it's doing. what my fears are that many people will put stock in the icj case to such an extent that if they decide not to find israel guilty of its genocide then people may lose hope of this sort of diplomatic and legal solution. the reality is that no matter what comes from the icj, there is no legal reprimand on israel, rather this is the united nation's top court and not actually a court that can actually do anything in terms of legal reprimand, so what i don't want people to do is to lose hope just in case this side of the this side of
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the angle actually doesn't help. what we can see is that by virtue of britain and america bombing yemen, it actually shows that this has caused them to intervene to such an extent where they need to directly now intervene in their support for. can you imagine how much damage yemen must be doing to the israeli economy, to the global forces of evil that are carrying out their maniacal practices and behaviors, otherwise you wouldn't see them intervent intervening. now you can go further with your analysis, the fact that the global media, the western media has to hide the truth about what yemen is doing and not speak about it in its plain context is another evidence of how important yemen's. role is in this conflict, let me give you an example, if you turn anywhere on bbc news, you will only see that they will say that this is in support of palestine,
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they won't say that they gave a condition, you are starving the people of palestine, there's no medicines going, you have to be able to open up the borders to allow these things, then we will stop our advances on the straight of menda, all of this shows how the yemini cause has become. okay, carol swarts, sheikh ladak, thank you both for your contributions, and thank you for spending time with us. we'll be back tomorrow with the latest news and analysis. until we meet again, continue to keep palestine in your hearts. goodbye for now.
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with other politicians uh just to spare head the independence, total independence of congo, and today we are proud of him as a hero to know what's what is your fight and uh how far you are ready to go for that? because if you do that you will inspire your community and your community will inspire a big bigger community and that's that's how you change the world left us a great legacy that is working for the people and uh avoiding influence from from western countries.
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your headlines on press tv, yemen's lead the vows to continue targeting israely link ships and also vessels of the us and the uk in the red sea until the on slot on gaza strip is ended, day 104 of the us really genocide war or genocidal war against palestinians and the death toll in the gaza strip tops 24,600, mostly women and children, and the irance armed forces launch a large scale military exercise along the country's southern coastline.