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at least 178 people have been killed and 293 injured in israely attacks on gaza in the past day, that raises the debt toll since october 7th above 25,000. some 62,600 people have also been injured since the beginning of the onslot on gaza. the pentagon says 140 attacks have been performed on us bases in iraq and syria since israel began the unslot on gaza. some 70 us personnel have been injured in those attacks. two us personnel were injured in the latest such attack in iraq. israely forces have blown up. the home
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of palestinian and india occupied west bank city of al khalil, the house belong to nasarlah al gawasmi. it was one of the three palestinians killed after performing a retaliatory shooting operation in a sellament in the occupied alguts in november. people in the syrian capital have held a funeral for the victims of the israeli terrorist attack on saturday. it was held in saida roga shrine, at least five irani military advisors and number of syrian. forces were killed and that is really attack. the iranian foreign ministry has a strongly condemned the israel attack in syria that led to the modern of several people. foreign ministry spokesman said iran advisors in syria have a leading role in the fight against terrorism. it's that iran reserves the rights to respond to israel's organized crimes.
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of be violated, how many more children have to be annihilated? this is not a war, it is systematic genocide, but wherever they try, palistin will never die, hello, i'm chris williamson and you're watching palestine declassified, we're the only weekly tv show focusing on investigating and exposing. the
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israeli regime's global war against solidarity with the illegally occupied people of palestine. in this week's show we'll be looking at south africa's momentous application to the international court of justice. in his comprehensive 84 page submission, south africa sets out the legal basis for its contention that israel is perpetrating genocide in gaza. it's historically significant the south africa has taken the lead in holding israel to account for its crimes against humanity. 30 years ago now. said, we know too well that our freedom is incomplete without the freedom of the of palestinians. amina taylor has been looking back at the links between south africa and palestine and the collaboration between south africa's previous apartide regime and the zionist entity. south africa has taken the step to invoke the genocide convention and charge israel in the international court of justice. while there are severe limitations to this process, it is on. iably momentous to
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see israel brought before the highest international court to answer for its crime of genocide against the palestinians. the relationship between south africa and palestine is deep and cannot be underestimated. it was forged through oppression and racial subjugation. israel was key player in the development and later the malignancy of apartite rule in south africa. south africa's apothy prime minister daniel molan was the first foreign prime. minister to visit tel aviv following the nakba. hendrick vevad, a south african apartide architect and prime minister, even claimed in 1961 that israel, like south africa, is an apart state. that was six decades before amnesty international said the same. in order to improve the image of apartite in south africa, israel and the apartide authorities established a joint secretariat for political and psychological warfare in 1975. by 1981,
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the apartidade army in south africa had 200 israeli military advisors and hundreds of apathide troops were also educated in israeli military academies. military instructors provided direct guidance to the south african reconnaissance commando's elite unit in particular. elbit systems, israel's largest arms business, played a key role in the development of south african's military electronics industry. south africa's naval forces were also trained in israel and sold radar systems by elta, a subsidiary of the state-owned israeli aerospace industries. israel was also essential. to the construction of an electric wall to police the border of apartide south africa with the crew of 50 israeli technicians stationed permanently at the wall for maintenance. the israelis also planted radar devices and mine fields along the border. israeli intelligence
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agencies had a steady presence in apartite air south africa. the apartite intelligence agency boss ran letter bomb campaign against anc figures like ruth first. which employed similar methods in its operation wrath of god against palestinians in lebanon. it is thought likely that israel provided support for this. the israel spy agency, the adl, also spied on many anti-apathy activists, including archbishop desmond tutu, and sold the information to boss agents of the apartite regime in south africa. israel and apathite south africa worked closely on nuclear research. with south african uranium proving extremely useful to israel's covert nuclear program, are we witnessing the revenge of history? as always, we're joined by our resident expert david miller. david is academic and a former professor at bristol
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university, and is a leading british scholarly critic of israel. david is also the co-founder and co-director of the lobby and watch dog spinwatch. our guest contributor today is sam hasseini who joins us from washington. dc via skype. sam is a palestinian, american independent journalist who's been piercing through the establishment's falsifications for more than 25 years. he formerly worked for the media watchdog group fairness and accuracy in reporting and he's contributed to a variety of publications including the washington post usa today and counterpunch. and as the senior analyst at the institute for public accuracy, he's been writing for at least decade about the case for invoking the genocide convention against israel at the international court of. justice, welcome to the show. david, do you think israel's history in supporting apartide in south africa had role in this move? well, as it says at the end of the film there, this is the revenge of history, and you can see in the the demeaner and the the the the cheers
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that went up when the south african legal legal team came back from the hague, that this is seen as being a kind of an atonement for the sins of apartide, and of course the hand held... out to the palestinian resistance and to the palestinian people is a mark of of how the the south africans see that their struggle intertwined with that of the palestinians as of course you said at the beginning from that famous quote from nelson mandela you who was whatever else you might say about mandela, he's he's seen this big you know saint in a way and of course you can criticize his his views but whatever else you see about him he was sored in the palestinians absolutely and there's pressure on him not to be so when he was released and he's with firm, but sam, i mean, you were one the the first people pushing for a state to invoke the genocide convention, as i was saying in introduction there, what, what convinced you that there was merit in pushing for this? uh, several things, uh, first off, i actually first really looked into this
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possibility in 2014, during the israeli assault then, and i was in touch with the late michael rattner, who was then head of the center for constitutional rights in francis boyle. um who had represented uh the plo um and who had been advocating uh move like this because he did this for bosnia in the 1990s so he had been through this process of going to the uh icj and invoking the genocide convention. in in addition i had been tracking um the international criminal court and its machinations and its refusal to do anything. uh for the palestinians or to in any way genuinely uh polarize with uh us uh dictates uh and then you had the so i actually wrote my first piece on my substack uh i think on october 8ights it at multiple
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points about what was going to come down the line which i think held up pretty well and one of those things was saying that a country should immediately invoke uh the genocide convention i had hoped that "if a country had done so immediately, it might have uh prevented israel from doing what it's done for the last three months, um, and so the um..." and then a certain point you had the prosecutor for the icc um go to the crossing uh between egypt and gaza uh as if to say i'm the cop on the beat here send your complaints to me and lot of people fell for that thinking that the icc would actually be of help uh so i immediately knew that that that meant that an alternative mechanism had to be done because lot of people were were you know taken down a path, yeah, yeah, well david, i mean, our report there, and he pointed out that that elbit, which, as you know, is
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israel's largest arms company had role in in supporting apartide in in south africa, and uh, many of the war crimes being perpetrated by israel today, are likely being committed using albert weapons, army, well, of course they are, and of course albert has many plans throughout the uk and in other countries too. and of course couple of them have been shut down by palestine action through their amazing yes uh activism, but you know here we are, and people talk about boycotting mcdonald's for their supply to the idf and of course that's a good idea, but elbit are actually producing weapons in this country which are being used day and daily to kill palestines over 100 children every single day and it's an extraordinary position that we're we're what what we what we face with is the the minister here grant chaps was saying just the other day. that you know that to uh ansara and yemen, it's nothing to do with israel, it's far away, it's thousands of
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kilometers away, you know, several thousand kilometers less than the uk is of course, but of course this is absolutely to do with what's going on, and it's being done in the uk, and it should be stopped forth with, the government should step in and say, you can't do this anymore, and the government should be enforcing this, but of course it's left to to the extraordinary work of palestine action, which of course everyone should join and support, of course we had that enormous rally in in jerman didn't we in the in samoar city you know supporting the the uh the action being taken in solidarity with with the palestinian people so for for john grant to sh to say what he was saying i mean just clearly trying to pull the wall over that the public size in this country but sam how did you feel when you heard south africa took the step to invoke the convention after you'd been you know pressing for it for for so long yeah no it was extraordinary um you gotten wind about maybe six weeks ago that there was a cabinet meeting in south africa uh because
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the in part because the parliament had wanted the cabinet to totally cut off relations with israel not just simply recall the ambassador and i was fairly sure that they were also considering invoking the genocide convention so i was very disappointed uh for some time that they didn't a statement after that cabinet meeting that they would be invoking the genocide convention, um, but um, reconstructing the timeline, it's quite possible that they had made that decision and that they had just simply been working on this 84 page application to do it as comprehensively as possible, um, and then they finally issued it, and i was, i was overwhelmed, i, i had, i spent my energies focusing on some latin american countries at this point, uh colombia, bolivia, some others to possibly this um uh criticizing the
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palestinian ambassadors for not uh publicly declaring their support for this um uh and so on um so it's been tremendous, and just about that time that the south africans did that, a whole bunch of groups in the united states i think woke up uh to the possibility of the efficacy of this and so you have a coalition now yeah. trying to get other countries to issue declarations, absolutely yeah, but but david, i mean uh, just say what to will you about the level of international support that there is for the the case that south africa has taken against israel? i think you've got to look at this in two ways, one is when you say international support of course is the question of states, states parties supporting this, and of course it was south africa at first, and it was only that for quite a while, and then all of sudden a trickle of other countries joined bolivia amongst them, and then of course laterally bangladesh. joins and you've got a whole list of countries, i think um around about 20, possibly more, any western countries? uh, no,
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no western countries, no, and and you have also, let's be clear, uh, these are largely countries in in asia, africa and latin america, not arab countries, now of course, that's the the rob, isn't it, because it should be the arab countries that should be involved and islamic countries, it should be at the forefront of this, and and that takes to the second question, which is of course the international support for south africa in public opinion, and that is of course overwell. all over the world and every single country exception of course of israel, so even overwhelming in the us, so but what we see then is is the is the step that south af. guides the way in for people to say, what are our especially in the arab world, what are our governments doing? i saw massive demonstration in in just just the other day, where the're saying this is this brings shame upon us, south africa is leading the way, it brings shame upon us that we haven't done this, absolutely, absolutely, well we're going to come back in a moment to to the discussion, but we've got another report now
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about the proceedings at the icj. as the proceedings at the international court of justice began in south africa laid out their case, the world look on with hope. the south african legal team, featuring an irish lawyer, meticulously constructed a compelling case that israel has breached the genocide convention with its campaign in gaza. however, as the hearing was taking place, israel attack civilian locations in two separate countries, ambulance and health services building in in south lebanon in the town of hanen and civilians cueing for food in gaza. at least 32 palestinians including women, children and men were then killed by the israeli army in hanyunus southern gaza strip with an air strike during the international court of justice session. clearly unashamed of israel's warmungering ways, israeli lawyers took to the
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international court of justice the following day to further attempt to justify the unjustified. israel's lawyer malcolm shaw from leicester university in britain came across as unorganized and arrogant. "someone has shuffled my papers," he grumbled as he staggered through his address. a widely criticized move took place when western news channels that ignored south africa's presentation at the international court of justice, live streamed israel's response to it an act of censorship by omission. the german government has announced that it will see. to intervene in the international court of justice to support israel, possibly out of dread for its own faith, as german armmen sales to israel soored a th00% in 2023, with fast tracking system established in october. as a result, germany not only continued to arm israel throughout its murderous war in gaza, but even increase sales to boost
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israel's ability to kill former british ambassador to uzbekistan. murray argued the result of the trial at the hague will define the integrity of the institution. israel is not on trial here, what's on trial is actually the international court itself. david, i mean they say that one of the hardest aspects to to prove in in cases like this at the icj is is intent, but i mean there's been a plethera hasn't there of uh of statements from from zionist leaders. that that do justify the the accusation of uh genocide, wouldn't you agree? well, you say a plethra, i mean what's what's the plural of plethera, there have been so many, and we've talked about this in the program before, listing statement after statement netanyahu talking about amalec, the people be spited by, and of course that that that passage is from scripture, and and yah of course is
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atheist, and design is by large secularis, there's a religious design. against yeah uh um fringe uh and but what they're talking about there is in that passage in the bible is uh when they say smiting the amalet we're talking about killing everybody and everything the goats the chickens the hens the men the women and the children every single one and that's of course incidement to to genocide of course what they've had to show uh in south africa is that that this is instatement to genocide and it's been carried out of course they've done that very effectively by showing the idea f in gaza jumping up and down, talking about wanting to kill the gaza, so there's an absolutely clear cut case, of course the response from israel to say, well these are just some politicians, they're not really important, and of course these are the politicians who are in charge, i mean absolutely extraordinary, yeah, no indeed, some, i mean, what, what do you make of germany vowing to come to israel's aid,
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yes, well, um, they're batting a thousand, i suppose. um, the germans are, you had the very interesting response by the namibians, given the history of german massive oppression of namibia, chiment very effectively, and it's quite possible that namibia will counter with a declaration at the court, you've had bangladesh and colombia state that they will do so, you've had about. countries make some kind of statements um regarding the court, but few of them have said that they will issue actual legal declarations. uh so it's important that uh that more of them uh more of them do that um as soon as possible i believe um but you you have this pattern of the the west obviously
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not just germany but you fully expect that the british government the us government of course has been completely dismissive of what south africa has done uh that continue this uh imperialist posture uh basically of of uh and being complicit with - with israel's crimes, yeah, absolutely. david, i mean, what's your assessment of the performance at the icj of of israel's representative, what's his name, malcolm, malcolm show, i mean it was quite extraording, wasn't it? it was, i mean, he's got, he's got a tough hand to play, and he played it very badly, so i mean there he is, you saw in the film there, shuffling his papers, not sure where he was and, and he actually said in the court, yes, someone shuffle. my papers indeed, it's supposed to be top, top kc, mean and and there we are, that that's the best that israel could come up with, but you know, of course it's a it's a very difficult hand to
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play because everybody in the world can see that this is genocide, and there's no question about that, and uh, we have to only wait and see what the what the core itself makes of it, no indeed, well some, mean i wonder what you can say, mean can can you can you believe that that even while delivering their case the israelis bombed? and committed a massacre, another massacre in carnus at exactly the same time. yeah, it's extraordinary, but it is part of pattern with them. um, when the un general assembly overwingly voted for a cease fire, you saw a similar spike in attacks against gaza, and this has a long history, every time a us secretary of state in the past, when you there has been some criticism. uh of israel, they would go and say, you really got to stop this settlement building, for example, uh, and then as soon as they uh, you know, left
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israel, israel would announce that it was going to build a new settlement, new colonial settlement on the west bank for example, so there's this pattern with israel of anytime demand is made for it to abide by international law, that it immediately as... and you saw that with uh netanyahu's speech, i really hope that the international court of justice takes a very good look at netanyahu's speech following the case where he basically said no one, not the hague, not anyone's going to stop us, completely lawless statements. yeah, i mean david, what's your prediction for the uh icj process? well, south point there is the is the opposite one about it being a completely law, and that's what we've got to remember here that this is... a state which isn't going to to pay any attention even to the us, if you can get away with it, it will it will, it will just ignore and defy the us. of course, if the us did
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take serious steps against them, they would have to collapse, but they they don't care about this, they see themselves as an imperial nexus themselves, the not just as they would, they're not just the the tail of the dog in their conception, they are there to expand to a greater israel and take over you know much of what we now call the middle east or west asia so what's going to happen of course in the the case itself, i i would i would guess that the uh the court is going to say that there should be a cease fire and they going to order a cease fire, but this is a lawless state, you know when when the court makes these kinds of - judgments uh states may not comply with them, and if you if we were betting people we would put all of our money in the fact that israel will not comply with a judgment that there should be a cease fire, but if there is a judgment that there should be a cease fire, which i think there probably will be, then this will be a tremendous uh uh advance for the palestinian cause, but it's only a tremendous advance in in terms of ideas and and the the informational battle, there still has to be
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the question of what what actually happens in in palestine indeed, and simon if that does happen happen, if there is a finding that israel is committing genocide, um, there is also reports aren't there circulating now that uh britain and the united states could find themselves in the dock for for their um collaboration in the for the facilitation of the the the genocide that's actually happening now yes uh well there was already a lawsuit uh from the central for constitutional rights against the united states domestically um i haven't taken look at the i've heard of but i haven't taken look at the recent british case um if it's being done at the icj it could well um have an effect on britain, they don't have a reservation on the relevant article, article 9 of the genocide convention as the us does,
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um, so... that there could well be uh there there should be follow up, i mean hopefully, hopefully what south africa has done here will open up several doors uh for further avenues legal and otherwise it should bolster for example the boycot investment sanctions movement you could have the general assembly asserting itself in a meaningful way uh there are several things that should follow from this yeah and in a word and very briefly - buse we're almost out of time, mean what's your prediction, are you optimistic? um, i'm trying to be realistic, i'm reminded that katherine gun exposed that the uh us and britain spied on general ass on un security council members during the build-up of the iraq invasion, so i don't know what pressure is being put upon uh the court now, so hopefully rule on the merits, indeed, well we well we live in hope and uh time will tell,
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but i'm afraid we are out of time, that's it for this week, so i'd like to obviously thank our guest sam husseini and of course our resident expert professor david miller. palestine declassified, we'll be back next week with more forensic investigations and analysis, but in the meantime you can follow the show on facebook, twitter and telegram where we post regular clips and updates and remember to share today's program on your social media platforms to help us continue growing our audience. so until next time, this is chris williams for saying bye for now. israel's genocide on the people of palestine in gaza and the occupied west bank has cost thousands of lives. it has also caused a massive labor shortage. we're talking about, i think here primarily about uh cross border workers, that is to say, workers who live in
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um... the west bank and commute to work in israel, that's that's quite a large economic volume, particularly locally, around five and a half billion usd per year. these are some the factors plaging the occupied west bank, so israel see these - this um shortage of workers uh that they've created, shortage of palestinian workers, is only a temporary measure. more than 500 the children were killed during the conflict, what have they done wrong? being born in gaza is not the crime. more
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than year after the war was waged by the israeli regime on the gaza strip and approximately year after the cairo donors conference was held for rebuilding gaza, the reconstruction project is still teatering between the cruelty of the siege and the procrastination of the israeli regime. what we are doing here to keep people surviving. we are not talking about quality of life in gaza. if you lock deeply in what is going on in gaza, you will find out big slogan that there is no tomorrow. all agree that the slowdown in the reconstruction is due to the slow process of transferring funds pledged by the donor countries at the cairo conference where the unwer received only $270 million while the required budget is much more.
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on the 107th day of the us is with the genocide in gaza, the death sol rises to more than 25,00. the pentagon acknowledges 140 attacks on us spaces in iraq and... syria, resulting in injuries to at least 70 american troops. funeral processions underweying the syrian capital for martters of yesterday's israely terrorist attack targeting iranian militant advisors.
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