tv Gaza Under Attack61 PRESSTV January 24, 2024 12:02am-12:31am IRST
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more than 100 days on and the us israeli genocidal campaign in gaza is ongoing, unabated. hello and welcome back to gaza under attack with me said purza. we'll get to our guests in moment, but first a quick look at some of the latest developments. a meeting of european foreign ministers in brussels with several middle eastern foreign ministers also in attendance. eu chief. diplomat joseph
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burell says the block's ministers will work towards achieving two-state solution. saudi arabia says it won't normalized relations with israel or contribute to gaza's reconstruction without a realistic plan for a palestinian state. iran's foreign minister hussein amir abdullahyan says the israeli regime is resorting to blind terrorism to make up for its defeat in gaza. lebanon's hesbollah resistance movement says its forces have thwarted an israeli military. incursion into the southern part of lebanon. yemen's ansera resistance movement has warned the us and its allies against any violation of the country's sovereignty amit the yemeni army's anti-israeli operations in the red sea. uk newspaper the times questions israeli occupation forces claim of securing northern gaza, and says prime minister netanyahu's regime is becoming increasingly isolated both domestically and internationally. according
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to gaza's health ministry, in less than four months, at least 25,000 palestinians, most of them women and children, have been killed in incessant us-israeli shelling of the gaza strip. thousands more lie under the rubble and are presumed dead. joining us for this of discussion, julius simbutu, international of journalist and the host of africa in focus and via skype from london, political analyst batul subati. thank you both for being here. i'll start with you, julius, the deathtal is staggering, it's already top 25,00, thousands more entomed under the rubble, as you heard me say earlier, this is figure that should surely be enough to get israel's allies to call for a permanent cease fire, it's definitely way beyond, but look into the figure like 1,500 people during the hammer hamas attack in israel. 1200 1200 precisely,
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you cannot compare that with the 2500, and which is actually even more annoying, it's talking about some 10 thousand children, you see children are seemingly innocent beings and they don't know our war, they don't not our conflict, why die? that's a huge number, so even is way beyond what should have caught attention of the world to immediately support session of fire. and all the while the israeli regime claiming it doesn't target civilians. um, but tool, uk, eu, us officials in all pushing for more aid to enter gaza, as the battle in hanyunus intensifies. is it clear now to israel's allies that it wants gazans either killed by armaments, some of of them supplied by the americans and their allies, or to let endure a slow death without adequate access to aid in the form? of food
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and medicine? absolutely. mean everyone can now vouuch for the historic failure of the israeli occupation entity and fulfilling any of its military goals. but what we need to remember is that az bombardment isn't soly about revenge for october the 7th, or rather of the failure of the israeli occupation entity to secure some kind of military victory. it is also about creating unbearable conditions for the ghazans. the goal is to get rid of all. all together that after of course of october the 7th is now an existential threat to israel, the israeli occupation entity doesn't want two-state solution that the west is seeking, because it sees that as a recipe for another war, it sees that as a way for the palestinians to get even stronger, imagine without a state they managed to uh launch a military offensive like october the 7th, the hazan resistance is stronger and it will win the next phase, that's how the occupation entity sees it, for that reason, it's... even willing sacrifice its soldiers,
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it's willing to forgo the hostages, because it considers this a survival war, it considers this their last chance, but of course the reason that there's such a staggering defeat militarily on the ground, it's because the soldiers themselves don't want to fight, don't want to die um and and go in vain essentially um so what we see is netanyahu is simply elongating this war and they're using everything humanitarian as a tool i mean everything like they're not ashamed they're not shy to say it openly every civilian in gazza is a target because all of ghazza is against the occupation entity which is a very natural reaction right anyone who asks for their rights is dead person in their eyes or an animal as they put it right so ultimately you the density that we see in gaza, the population density, the impracticability of this displacement to the si peninsula or the nakab for example, the international outrage that we're seeing in the world today, the mass mobilization and the world consciousness that's being awakened through gazza, but the most important factor
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in all of that is the fortitude of the ghazans, the fortitude of the ghazans has proven that all of these rally occupations, delutions are built illusions and we know that israel cannot breathe without us oxygen, so the latter's two-state solution plan will advance, but that does not mean that it will be successful. exactly, that mass mobilization of uh the public around the world, we saw um a big demonstration in birmingham this past weekend. um, julius, do do you think perhaps this mass mobilization is partly the reason why we're seeing some movements around the world, at least when it comes to israel's western allies. in calling for a ceasefire now more than three months into this genocidal war, definitely has got his own impact, because when you look into for example, it's not the first protest in the uk we've seen a lot, so when when all these started, it was straight forward, left
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at the government level, and governments were quick to show their alliances, in a very open manner, like for example, you is the way they did, come back to uk, there's a time, actually it was almost running to be like a government official line that you have to suppose israel uh and when they saw the numbers of people going to protest pro palestine you know protest then they realize it's not everybody in the country in the case the us people working in the white house interns or at the state department all calling for action same thing happened also in different countries we saw uh germany as well people protest in from palestine and right now i think is the dynamic of that people driven protest has got even inside israel we've seen israelis who are protesting this is not our wall yeah inside israel so i
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think that dynamic is very key to seeing the change that we are seeing right now absolutely well as we mentioned at the top of the program eu foreign ministers have gathered in brussels where they were scheduled to separate. meet with representatives from tel aviv as well as a palestinian delegation. speaking ahead of the meetings, belgian foreign minister, said the current situation, quote, will not be resolved through the use of weapons, her comments were echoed by the irish and latvian foreign ministers. let's have listen. nearly 25,000 people have lost their lives. gaza is a situation of extreme urgency. there's a risk of famine. there's a risk of epidemics, the violence must stop, and the message that i will carry, in the name of belgium, in the name of the belgian presidency of the council
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the european union is clear, we demand immediate ceasefire. in relation to the situation in the middle east, from ireland's perspective, we will be again putting lot of pressure on and calling for. a ceasefire um in gaza and also absolute unimpeded access uh humanitarian aid in the reports we are receiving even as late as last evening are dire in respect of what's happening within gaza in terms of starvation in terms of the humanitarian consequences of this war uh and there's no excuse now uh for any tardiness or for any delays in respect of getting vital aid into gaza and those points very strongly, the situation is not getting better, it's actually becoming worse, and what we have to push for in the european union is two-state solution, because without an independent palestine, there's no hope for peace in the region. it's somewhat discouraging to hear
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the remarks of the israeli prime minister, but in spite of these remarks from europe's side, we need to push in this direction. this is the only way for peace. and all of us need - peace in the middle east. all right, let me put this next question to julius. julius, do you think the eu have any relevance to the authority here? um, after all. save the um the irish that we heard there, the block has been consistently supporting the israeli genocide in the name of self-defense. it's not just ireland, we saw spain as well has been supporting two state solution, but yeah every block around the world right now is very important, whatever they say to this conflict matters quite a lot, because when we look into the dynam. of uh this conflict is gna is not just happening in gaza, we've seen
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uh the shootings in in yemen of you know by the us and the uk and when you go around as a you know domino effect so the dynamic of major conflict, global conflict is there, so every player from whichever corner in the world is very key, eu is very relevant. to to to support the two state solution because it's a block, it's about 27 countries, it's quite a lot of them, if they were to speak with one voice and say two state solution, then at least they become a force to reckon with what kind of pressure are they in or under to make that happen, to first stop the uh genocide from progressing and second to find a political solution to this decades long, do think when i look into this dynamics of this conflict is a uh populism, this populism from masses of people, different
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citizen from different countries coming up against the governments telling them you have to end this, and that dynamic is very key, because they are the ones that are changing the government's you know like position, yeah earlier held, like here in the uk i was talking about immediately, it was so clear, okay, uk we support israel, but because of the protest and what you have seen going on, they have... eventually come to turn around and i think a lot of similar situations are happening in different countries in europe and therefore even those who had very hard stance and in support of israel they have come to say like i've seen in this eu meeting of ministers some are saying that yeah if we were to measure israel has gone beyond the boundary of expectation 2500 is just too many and when you see them excluding people realization of the rubble, yeah, definitely they are changing, and they are not changing
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because each government wanted to change, yeah, but they are changing, so so i, i look at that as a potential for government just listening and knowing this conflict should incurry on, number one, there should be sessation of fire, and then number two is a political solution to this political problem, of course advocacy of two state solution, and i've also seen you. is also changing its position, by the way, his position before it was so clear, but now we have seen joe biden talking about to state solution as well, well they say something in public and another probably in private, we really do not know what's going on for sure, but let me uh bring batul in if i may, how do you see this uh batul, this renewed or new call by eu member states calling for a cease fire and the two states solution. "we heard hatovli, the israeli ambassador of the uk saying, throwing it out of the window, the government in power
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in israel is not believe in it. why is the eu doing this? is it is this because the of the impending vertic at the icj, and if it's in south africa's figur favor, the way it will reflect on the european union, are they calling israel's bluff? what do you think is happening? right? um, ultimately the european union just follows through with the..." american solution and the american solution has always been the two state solution, the only thing is that it's been placed on the shelf because it's never been forced to recken with the power balance on the ground that has shifted it to the point where it will have to invoke uh this reality and implement it, so of course as was shown in the vt, they gathered egypt, jordan and the pa to get with europe to open up this file, and the europeans are saying that actually this is the only solution moving forward, this is not related to the icj perse, they themselves europe, the west, america has come to realize the inevitable reality of
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besieging palestinians. it will lead to resistance, seeking to uproot the occupiers until full liberation. so the hussan resistance has made it very, very clear that they want to recapture back every single land of historic palestine that was uprooted from them in 1948, and that the world superpowers conspired for, and the rest of the world turned a blind eye, turn, turn a blind eye, but the reality. that europe and america cannot choose on behalf of palestine, the destiny of the palestinians. palestine wants its freedom. the palestinians are deprived of everything. and this two state solution that we're talking about, we've seen it since clinton. it's been on the table, but as i mentioned, that actualization was not a reality, but after everything that the occupation entity has done now, they cannot give it to the unlimited hand. we have to understand what the what the relationship, the power dynamics between america, the west and the israeli occupation entity is. the israeli occupation is effectively bound by these supreme american interests. netanyahu
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has no say in this matter, nor does the occupation entity. if you were to give the occupation entity the choice, they will not. go forward with the two-state solution, because as i mentioned, they see the two-state solution as a recipe for another war. if already the palestinians did not have a state and they manage to go at this level of strength and power on the ground, imagine what will happen when you give them their recognition, right? but ultimately, the way that the west is going in, the direction that it's going in, is that look, the israeli occupation entity has been a failure, it has been defeated militarily, we cannot but recognize the effective and active forces on the ground, hamas in some way, shape or form has... be integrated within any future solutions of course, but for america they want to put the the pa in power and raza, and we know that also that is not a reality, so we always need to bring it back to what is it that the palestinians want, the palestinians have taken matters into their own hands in terms of what the eu is saying, it's too little, too late, international rules have
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absolutely no value except if it holds political interests, yes of course um just to, i'm going to take moment just to bring our viewers up to speak, this is gaza under attack with me, sahit puriza, a deep dive into the ongoing us israeli carnage in the gaza strip, more than hundre days since it all began. now, from jewish rabbies to jewish scholars in the west, the verdict from this year's annual genocide memorial day event was clear. what is happening in gaza is a genocide in real time? raza kazim from the islamic human rights commission. and opened the event where amongst others, professor haim brishith, author, filmmaker and professor at soas university, spoke about how jewish values were being trampled upon by israel. the idea of genocide memorial day was to hold people to account, regardless of the
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people perpetrating the oppression, and regardless of the faith or ethnicity or the background of the oppressed of the victim, and it was to hold all of those people to account and to remember those victims of genocide. there is notion of a hierarchy of victim which is rejected. by what we do within genocide memorial day, it is not acceptable for one group of people to be held in higher regard, for their memories to be remembered more than another group. what is happening now in a state that calls itself a jewish state, is not jewish, is not a whole
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jewish. let me ask you what? is jewish about the so-called jewish state, is apart hide jewish, in what way is apothy jewish, is genocide jewish, is racism jewish, is settle colonialism jewish, is it any of this related to jewish history and values, this is not just not jewish, but it is against judaism, it is denial and it is accusation that judaism needs to get rid of. so what is called a jewish state is basically racist and anti-semitic state. professor ian pape, author of the seminal book, the ethnic cleansing of palestine, was another jewish
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scholar at that event. he's a professor of history at the university of exoter. he said, quote, " what we are witnessing is the beginning of the end of zionism. people are victims of zionism are going to suffer the last brutality of this collapse. however, it is a collapse, and we should remember this, and this should not be just moment of hope by saying, it's it's there is a dawn behind the dark after the darkness, there is light in the end of the tunnel. not just this idea that, okay, let's survive the next two years, because something better is awaiting us, no, this is call for anyone, "who is part of the human capacity to build a different kind of palestine, not to sit down and just think of how to make how to help to tople the zionist
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or to to destroy thesignist project which is important, but also to think now and not tomorrow, what should replace it? to be ready, because historically i'm telling you that when a collapse like this..." happens, there is void, and if you are not ready to fill the void, the chaos continues and continues and this is very, very, we have seen it, we have seen it around us in the arab world, a disintegration of the state does not mean immediately a better state, does not mean immediately a better future, if you are not ready for the collapse, the collapse turns into more misery and suffering rather than. promising something better and the nature of collapse are a little bit like kind of incremental fall up of of of wall,
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first the little bricks are falling, then bigger bricks are falling and then suddenly comes the big boom and that's what's going to happen, this immediate collapse that you are not ready for, it happened in the soviet union, the last phase is very quick in history and you need to be there with a think. of what kind of society you want to build, and the one thing we understand, we are not, we are not advising anyone to look into the west and europe for models that should replace the jewish state. we know that there are excellent models in the history of the ottoman empire, of the history of the arab world, of the muslim world. the bombardment of gaza has left no how. hold unscathed, families ripped apart by death, injury and forced displacement. the fabric of gazan life has been torn apart with usually
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mundaine municipal issues, having a massive impact on the survivor's quality of life. residents of deral balah, packed with thousands of displaced gosons from the north the strip, are concerned about the consequences that the stench and pollution caused by untreated garbage can have further health. in addition to the bombing every day and the sound of explosions, there is garbage, bad smells and diseases that have spread among us, every week there is someone who gets sick, children and the elderly the smell and the garbage. let's continue the conversation with international journalist and host of africa and focus julius emboluzu and political analyst batul sabati, and i'll go to batul first. how important is it, batul that influential. jewish voices speak out to say this genocide is not being carried out in their names? absolutely, it is very important, it makes it very clear that the
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occupation entity has absolutely nothing to do with judaism, nothing to do with religion, it's inherently a colonial uh project from its outpost, it's a western imperialist project from its outpost, it was it was first started by britain, the so-called great country and then it was handed over to america in 1948, it has nothing to do with prophet abraham, peace and blessings be upon him, prophet moses, all these prophets that stood up against the unjust uh status quo that they seek to weaponize their name through the so-called quote unquote abraham accords, they using religion as a political tool and a cover and even worse they are criminalizing in its name, so when they go on with this whole you know so-called anti-semitism crisis that they're manufacturing um out of pro palest. opinion activism and we've especially seen this within - interfaith arenas and interfaith circles where they seek to infiltrate where it's basically mechanism and a tool to
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silence the religious population because they know that that is a core essential component the liberation movement. so when it reaches this level of aggression, the jews uh globally who the aggressor is speaking in their name um are opening their eyes and are saying this is not in my name and so this is very encouraged. in order to show the reality the political dynamic of the israeli occupation entity, how it came into existence and how its functional role is soly to act as an outpost for west um for western interests in west asia, that needs to be highlighted, exactly. okay, we're going to have to leave it there, that's all the time we have for this program. julius, embolutu and betul sabadi, thank you both for your contributions, and thank you for watching us. gaza under attack we'll be back tomorrow with the latest. until then, continue to keep. palestine in your hearts, goodbye.
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over the last seven decades, the israeli regime has survived by grabbing and usarping land amid the us israeli genocidal war on palestinians in gaza, the israeli regime has another dirty plan. according to media reports, israeli regime officials are planning to move palestinians from gaza to several african countries. israeli apather regime is notorious for its impunity and total disregard of international law. this plan will not succeed as long as african nations remain vigilant and continue supporting the liberation of palestine.
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your press tv headlines: israel launches artillary attacks on major hospital and khan units as a regime steps up his deadly strikes a southern gold. this trip, the army confirms the loss of 24 more troops during intense clashes with palestinian resistance fighters in the past 24 hours in gaza. amen army says a fresh us let air strikes on multiple targets in yemen will not go unanswered or unpunished.
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