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tv   SPOTLIGHT  PRESSTV  January 25, 2024 2:02am-2:30am IRST

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while the us is really genocidal war and the gaza strip roars ahead the genocidal death doll is averaging a couple hundred daily, meanwhile there's another onslot that israel regime forces have been conducting and that is in the occupied west bank where at least 370 palestinians have been killed since october the 7th. isn't this another aggression against palestinians? in this addition of the spotlight we will look at how eyes should not be taken off the occupied west bank where israely atrocities like in gaza have been ongoing for decades and how israeli officials want to cleanse the west bank of most palestinians just like in the god. the strep: let me introduce our guests
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for this edition of the program. larry johnson is a former cia analyst, joining us from brantinton, florida. also joining us is alberto garcia watson, political analyst and activist who joins us from malaga over in spain. gentlemen, welcome to you both. larry johnson, first over to you. i have to mention how this become uh, it's extraordinary that may maybe um we're becoming numb when we hear these deaths that's taking place, i mean we're looking at the death doll of a around 26,00 or up to 27, but we're looking at how over 200 palestinians have been killed again in the span of 24 hours uh by the regime forces and then. children uh so far killed
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and 7,0 women, these are happening um, this death thow is happening a rather continuous and frequent pace. what do you think about this when you when you hear this type of death though? well, not trying to minimize it, but i want to point out that the reason we're able to pay such attention to this is because of social media primarily, which is good, you know, because you go back in history. in the past, like when the nazis wiped out the war saw ghetto, they did similar things, but nobody saw it, it wasn't, it wasn't on social media every day, and now these the images of these dead children, these babies, the women that are being slaughtered wantedly, that's spreading around the world, and so that social media has of become if you will, powerful weapon on the side of the...
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states is enabling the slaughter, so it's uh, you know, the the images are going to keep pililing up until i think, friday, at least we're going to get action from the international court of justice, and i think that will bring some additional pressure on israel to stop, did you said friday that's when it's going to be announced? yeah, yeah, yeah, that's an interm announcement that they said they were going to make, so let me ask you, uh, if i may, larry johnson, let's say that announcement is made, do you think that this is going to impact uh the lives of
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palestinians on the ground who are getting decimated and are dying by the day? yeah, yeah, no, i think it will, not immediately, let me ask, alberto garcia that that question, go ahead, sorry about that, that's all right, well, but actually i'm not very convinced that whatever is decided on the on friday is actually going to change anything on the field, i happen to... have visited the gasar strip several times and peaceful times, let's say peaceful times, they never lived on the peace and the gaser strip and the conditions in which the population over two million people live is absolutely like in a prison, it's like they lived in alkatras, no way out um with everything restricted the entring and the exiting of people. and and
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and and whatever products are needed, mean just potato chips and chocolate is forbidden to enter the gas strip that's for for an example now. so i i don't think that actually whatever is decided on friday is going to make the uh israeli authorities to change their program and their project which is actually uh ethnic cleansing that's part of their project of a great israel that goes from the the river nile all the way to the euphratus river in iraq and they haven't uh actually they managed that possibility by weakening all this in the in the area with the help of the united states, so basically and what actually our friend, our colleague in the states had mentioned that on friday, it would determine anything, i don't actually think it's going to change anything on the ground, united states is going to keep on
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supporting this slaughter, all these people that are getting killed, over 200 people per day are killed with american weapons and united states does not want to have a sice fire, so it will prolong in the... time until something else happens, but not definitely it will not be a choice of israel, indeed, well something else is happening, and uh larry johnson, that's what's happening on the occupied west bank, i mean since october the 7th we're looking at the figures that we have over here over at least 370 palestinians have been killed there, including more than 99 children with more than 4,250 injured. the eyes can't be taken off what's happening there, and this is has been is somewhat mirroring what's happening. in the carnage in the gaza strip but a very much lower pace though it's been happening for decades uh what do you think about the fact that things are have spiraled i should say out of control there when it comes to the regime forces israel and what is doing to the palestinians there? well the crit critical difference is
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israel is bombing indiscriminately with fixed wing aircraft in gaza they're not doing that in the west bank and and i think part of the reason for that the west bank is that they've have about 700 thousand settlers illegally occupying palestinian territory, so they they would be worried about causing collateral damage among their own people, at least now they're concerned about it, they weren't concerned about that on october 7th, when the israeli military killed a significant number of israeli civilians and then blamed it on hamas, look this israel with its ultrazionist extreme the the smotrich, the itamar bengavirs and even now netanyahu, they they've embarked on a religious crusade to exterminate palestinians from all of this territory that israel claims as its own, they
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have zero interest in working out two-state solution, they don't want to live with palestinians, they don't want to accommodate palestinians in any former fashion, and that's why... they are blaming uh or labeling all palestinians as terrorists, it's just complete guilt by association, instead of instead of concentrating on those who carried out the attacks on october 7th, they've gone towards indiscriminant mass punishment, and i think i think it's ultimately it's going to destroy israel, well when you have a since you mentioned bengavier, and i need to ask you this, alberto garcia, how uh, given the fact that he's... actually settler uh himself uh he recently said to the board of police officers to shoot any terrorists that they he calls some terrorists that they uh see even if they don't pose a threat which is violation of the rules of engagement and he said this quote you have complete backing from me when your life is in danger or you
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see a terrorist even if he does not in danger you shoot i have your back hair on your head harmed is worth 1,00 terrorists later on he retracted that saying that you know my words were uh they were misquoted uh, but you when you have this type of uh character inside uh uh the the israeli regime making these types of statements and going ahead with actually believing what he says should be the case. um, what kind of future is it the kind of future that i guess there said that it's going to hurt israel to the point that it may become an existential threat to the regime itself? actually when we talk about it, we're talking about a former. member of the kan movement which actually moved brooklyn new yorker called baruch goldstein to commit massacre in hebron mosque in 1994 killing 29
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people uh that movement was considered to be a terrorist organization until not to long ago and this itama bengivir has even aposter. of this criminal baruk goldstein in his living room and he makes it public everyone, sorry for that, and basically this this person is actually very much needed. uh by benhamin netanyahu, likes mortic to be able to carry on with this government, because any anyone any of these extremist leaders that give up on this government will make this benhamin netanyahu uh call for new elections and he needs to govern this uh they complete four years because he knows that otherwise is going to be charged as he's already charged for corruptions and many many accounts and he will be actually detained. and arrested, so he wants to prolong this government with this extremis and he's going to prolong this war
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as far as he can take it, not actually believing that it's going to win it, because thre and over 110 days none of the objectives uh have been reached, he has not been able of rescuing one single of the hamas israeli captives and he hasn't got rid of the hamas alkassan brigade. which actually have kept very much of their military capacity as we could see just a couple of days ago with the killing of 24 israeli soldiers, so uh netanyahu is going to try to prolong and time is staying in power uh doing as much damage as he can do and as very much and very well said by our colleague in the states um they do not believe in a two state solution that's out of the question they never did not even uh jisak rabin ever believed in it, even when he signed the oslaw court with with arafat
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and shimon perez and bill clinton in the white house, so therefore i just see that bahem netanyahu is gonna try to find a way to continue and end his government as far as he can take it and do as much damage as he can in the in the gaza strip, well one of the places that the damage is happening uh if you want to call it call it that in terms of the word being used damage here, which is lot more than that is is what's happening in the occupied west bank, and larry johnson, you mentioned the fact that the difference uh being between the occupied west bank and the gaza strip is that you have the regime forces there that are bombing the gaza strip via air, this is something that's now happening in the west bank uh based on the un human rights office there's a sharp increase in air strikes and military incursions which we know in terms of the refugee camps um and also the abductions 6200 um is what we have based on how many people have been arrested in the occupied west bank um something needs to be
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done in order to stop that from becoming another gaza strip, but no, i agree with you on that, yeah, so so what can be done? mean, you know, you have the, it's interesting, you have the us react to these settlers and also the eu, but not the same way they react to the palestinians in the gaza strip, that they should have a visa ban or what have you, i'm curious as to why that approach is taken regarding the... gaza so that it is uninhabitable so that nobody can live there can return, what
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they're doing in the west bank more often than not is they're taking in the bulldozers, they're blowing up houses where they have control over the perimeter, and then within all this, i come back to what i said at the outset, the only country that's doing anything substantively to try to put pressure on israel or the... houthis in yemen, erdogan in turkey could do lot right away, cut off the supply of oil to israel, shut it down, without oil they can't continue running their war machine, but they won't do that, because there are too many people around aradowan that are making money off of this, so the the financial incentives to continue the war are significant, and the problem for the palestinians is they don't have any money, they have no financial. resources, they're not sitting a big pool of oil, they don't control a large stock of gold, they're a
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bunch of poor people, and therefore we can kill them and get rid of them, and no big deal. well, since you talked about money, what are we looking at alberto garcia when it comes to israel itself, mean it's it's not doing well obviously economically, it's trying to sustain an economy which basically is unborrow time at this point, whatever is left of it, because you're not having, you're having the major industries. suffering, especially the tech sector, not to get into that conversation, but basically they uh did not anticipate the cost at this point i think has crept up to $60 billion dollars, not sustainable based a economy that... whose wheels are not turning in a matter of speaking. um, of course, your your thoughts on this, but it appears that the us is probably going to be there to back them up in order for them to sustain and endure this uh genocidal war that that is being exercised. uh, do you think that that's going to be the case? along with the massive obviously military support that the us is giving israel? well, i'm not very sure about that.
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we talking about, israel spending over 260 million dollars per day. the war in gaza without even reaching the objectives that they first uh thought they would, the economy is going down the train and we're talking about united states now having primarily primary elections for their candidates, the republicans and the democrats and biden cannot afford at this point spending that amount of money investing. that amount of money in a fail project like it is israel at this point having elections just in a few months because they might lose the elections, so i'm i'm very much aware that this continue spending of money when actually you don't even see the the results that were expected to happen in the first weeks of the of the conflict where the israeli army expected to
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be able to finish with the hamas mil'. structure the the the the brigades, the al-qasen brigades of hamas and to be able to do like they did in in in uganda when they freed in in tebe airport all this captives from this palestinian pro- palestinian supposedly terrorists that had kidnapped this plane with with israelis, all the jewish that were actually rescued. uh um uh from ethiopia, this is not going to happen, they're not going to be able to make a movie out of this situation at this point, because it's so obvious for the rest of the world that what is going as a genocide, i mean international criminal court is is going to define most probably on friday, if not on friday very very soon that what's going on is
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something that you cannot portray in a movie as as an achievement, indeed, well - we want to take a look at uh the most recent proposal that uh um netanyahu has given uh larry johnson for uh they call it pause uh whether it's a pause or ceasefire supposed to happen in face stages i believe uh for the captives be released um it's very interesting uh at the time that this came because it came exactly within that 24-hour period we had one the biggest losses of israeli regime forces uh which was total of 24 which by the way uh israel under reports how many soldiers, but regime forces, but you had hamas come out and say that that amount anyways, um, do you take that as a sign that israel has realized the writing on the wall and wants to uh maybe wind this down or is that a ploy? knowing that hamas and the resistance groups have
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said there will be no agreements a cease fire, the war has to end, this genesidal war has to end. but given that israel knows that they would reject it, they put it out there to say, see we tried, but they rejected it. no, think i think it's a ploy, it's true that the events have turned against netanyahu and the israelis, the the war is not going as they had anticipated, and there was some wonderful karma, and here they were wiring another building, they've been they've been doing this for weeks, they go in and they wire these various buildings, the university, churches, hospitals with explosives and then detonate them and they sit back and they laugh and they celebrate, so karma caught up with them, it fell in on their heads as they were trying to blow up another one, so i was frankly i was mildly amused by it, it couldn't have come sooner, but that said you
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know why would hamas want to enter into any agreement with the israelis at this point, the israelis you know they released. few hostages and they let then the israelis let a few hamas people out of jail and then they go out and round up another thousand people put them in administrative detention. this is you know i think hamas finally is awakening to the fact that there is no negotiating with the israelis on this. this current israeli crowd are such hardover extremists that the they don't see deal because the... concept of deal as you're willing to reach an agreement that can be mutually acceptable to both sides. the israelis don't recognize that the palestinians have a side that can be legitimately considered. "that's the thing the world needs to get hold of. uh, moving to how we're looking any type of political solution. uh, many um have pushed this two-state solution. iran has proposed a
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referendum, that is how they view this to be something that's fair to the palestinians. uh, which sounds reasonable. nevertheless, uh, it's not entertained at all when it comes to the israely regime overall, whether it's netanyahu, and uh, of course, uh, you have it's..." if you agree to anything like that there won't be any type of camin in place. so what what are we looking at there? well, this moment, two state solution is something that has been buried by the israelis and the americans already for years. it hasn't been a continuence and the so-called accords decided in in in the white house of the oslaw accords, nothing has... being respected over a 70% of expansion of the settlements have taken place in this period of time um the
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fisherman for example and that i know personally because i went out with fishermen uh supposedly in the gas sea they were allowed to go fishing 20 miles out and they not only they're actually allowed to only fish in the two and a half mile from the coast but it's actually not fish left, but just just just about everything that concerns the two state solution, nobody believes that in palestine, nobody believes that definitely in the gas strip and i spoken with lot of people in the gas strip, the two state solution is is is not a choice, it's not a possibility, especially when you have over five and a half million palestinians refugees abroad that are not. to return, even though there are resolutions in the united nations that imposes on israel the return of these palestinians, so it's at this point, it's
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other choice but one nation, a one nation where all jews and christians and muslims, palestinians, israelis or whatever you want to call it, can live together, and each of them as a citizen is one vote that can decide what kind of regime or the... democracy, the one and half, but it's not possible at this point with the amount of settlers, over 75000 settlers living in the west bank, terrorizing the population of east jerusalem, and having these conditions in which the gas is strippers at this moment, it it is impossible, it's a laugh actually to talk about this. unfortunately fresh out of time we going to end it there, thank you very much for that, berto garcia watson, political analyst and activist on malaga spain. larry johnson, thank you, former cia analyst, brandonton, florida. with that we come to an end for this edition of the spotlight. thank you for being with us from the team, it's
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goodbye.
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to comply with legislation and this is an amendments not the future.
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impressive headlines, yemy army says is engaged us warships and waters near the country hitting an american naval vessel with ballistic missiles. israel's unabated onslot on the gaza strip continues to claim more palestinian lives with han unis in southern gaza being the hardest hit and teran and ankara signed 10 agreements to boost cooperation in different sectors while demanding action of force israel to stop the gaza genocide.