tv Simorgh PRESSTV February 6, 2024 10:02am-10:30am IRST
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after several months i've spen in iran covering the revolution. one day somebody called me from from paris and not only me but of some other people and they said oh the ayatollah humani is coming to paris why? it's a very old story, 41 years ago i arrived here for the first time to meet theini was just arriving from iraq, it was the first.
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first time nobody knew him, nobody has never seen him, and uh, it was my first visit here, didn't know even the name of nofelo chateau, and i was just coming back from iran where where i covered the the event in iran, and of course for me it was also important to meet this man, because so many people were... where behind him in the street of tehran million of people, then he was a, he was a symbol of the revolution, and for me as a journalist, a photographer, to see him was something very important, because nobody in the press has seen this picture, and um, of course to get this image of the ayatollah was something very important. to be the first one
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also was very important. then we were introduced to him you know like with this man with this man sited next to him and and in banisad and mean not banisad but those are people explain him i was covering the revolution in iran since several months i was very young at that time i was 26 years old. and uh at that time he was nobody knew
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him you know he just told me like a grandfather he told me oh young young boy you are young boy you are young you know the the the interesting part of the story is not me i'm not the one important what is important is to continue what you have done in iran to record the memory of of of the revolution this is more important than anything else, you you have to go back to iran and continue your work, continue to your work in iran, i mean he became the center of the world outside of iran, but for me it was less interesting, because of course there was too many people there and i had nothing special to do, then i went back to iran after a couple of days and what was interesting at that time... "i was the first photographer to
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come to iran with real pictures of the ayatollah." to tell the story, i was uh in terron uh at the end of january when someone called me uh from paris telling me you should come to paris quickly because the imam khumeini is going back to tehran and we want you to be in the plane, well i cannot, i could not say no, it was something. incredible, something i couldn't imagine, but at that time bartia, was a prime minister, gave the approval for he calling mr. homani to come back.
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part de la direction générale d'air france sur les instances de l'élysée. pour que ce vol soit assumé par un chef pilote sur boeing 747, il se trouve que j'étais facilement disponible, mon patron, chef de la division boeing 747, qui à l'époque s'appelait bernard maurice, m'a posé la question et j'ai répondu oui, c'est tout. en plus c'était un ami qui me demandait en quelque sorte un service que je n'avais pas envie de l'ir re من از همه ملت ایران تشکر می کنم و در اول فرصت بیش مردم ایران خواهم رفت تا با اونها یا کشته بشم یا
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حقوق ملت را بگیرم و به ملت برگردانم. آیت الله خمینی هر وقت تشریف بیارن مقدمشون مبارک است بنده گفتم حاضرم تأمین بکنم تضمین بکنم ورود ایشون را هر وقت خواستن بیان می توانند ولی تشریف آوردن ایشان یا هرکس نبایستی به این شرط باشه که بنده استعفا بدم و از پست قانونی و از سنگر قانونیزیون فرانسیزیان. et celui-là et voilà bon et puis euh on y avait vu aussi la yato la romanie furtivement mais on l'avait vu on était au courant de naufle le château ça y est ça me revient le nom de naufle le château vous voyez donc les français étaient au courant donc ils ont suivi et le jour du
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vol. "at that time we are very few people supposed to go back mainly, mean a small group of people actually, and then we came here at night and we, mean we knew knew everything was organized, but they told us at that time also more people are going to fly with him in case the army shoot on shoot on the on on the plane, i remember very well" there was some trees here over there, now these trees don't exist anymore, but on the trees trees you know, they put the list and you could add your name on the list, you know, everybody, mean every journalist wanted to go to to iran could write his name and
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find out if he has seat in the plane, at the end i think we are maybe 100 people, some of them, you know, some of the journalists, they have never been to iran, it was their first trip. it was the first opportunity and uh we were on uh, i think january 30, it was the last day of january and we... left, i've got some pictures of that, he left this place at night in a car, i forgot the name of the man the mola or ayata was on his side, but he left from here, and all of us we went to the airport, to raci airport where he passed by the custom like anybody, they have organized a speech before the departure, just to say to say thank you to the to say thank you to the french. people inside the airport,
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et sans doute fallait-il qu'il ait des... d'accord au niveau des dans ce cas-là du gouvernement pour qu'il ait pas pour que les choses se passent correctement puisqu'il va avoir des des des gens français qui allaient des français qui allaient être et des passagers peut-être france qui allait arriver là et je sais qu'il y avait pas mal nous étions tenus au courant par j'étais informé chaque jour.
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چند ساعتی اصولاً مردم در اونجا میمونن خسته شدن و بعد میگن که این طیاره معلوم نیست که کجا رفته داد خبرم میشه داد که عقب افتاده اینطور آمده نمی دونم چه شده حالا تمام مسئله اینه که ایشون وقتی که نیاد رااکسیون مردم چه خواهد شد اینه مسئله بنده میگم بدتر از اون که اگر می آمد نمی شد چون اگر بیاد تمام این تظاهرات این ها میشه جمهوری اسلامی اعلام میشه ما عکس العمل نشان خواهیم داد و تمام این گرفتاری ها یکی پشت از دیگری پشت سر دیگری اصلاً entre minuit 1h du matin avec un léger retard, le vol avait
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un numéro de quatre chiffres, 395 ou 3985, air france 3985, quelque chose comme ça, et j'en ai pas le la mémoire, surtout ici aucun document pour me pouvoir me remémorer exactement alors que j'ai tout chez moi, et ce vol était un vol. qui en principe avait été tenu secret, we arrived at the airport, at the airport he gave a speech to thanks the french government, french people for the time he has spend in paris in nofle le château, it was very very fast, i mean some there was a small demonstration even in the airport, iranian people uh were there to to... to to see him, then we went on the plane, it was already maybe midnight, maybe more, and the
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imam was tired, and all of us we had one idea is to sleep, because we knew the next day was going to be very long day, i tried at that time to have some pictures of imam khumani, but some people told me now, he's tired, he's going to sleep, etc., i stay, okay, fine, and then i tried to sleep a little bit, it was on very difficult because we really didn't know what was going to happen, uh, the plane was not supposed to land on on on terron airport. 'and the army could shoot on the plane, mean everything could happen, we didn't know ready, avec liman commeny ben j'ai ça a été une préparation de quelques jours,
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il m'avait, il m'avait rien dit, il me a dit que le...' qu'il avait qu'il avait le revenir à amener alors là ça a été les grands préparatifs savez d'après ce que je je vous rapporte que des bris moi j'y étais pas romney during the flight was sleeping upstairs he went down this stair when he wake up around o'clock and he called me to take the pictures here, he was sitting there by the window when we were entering the iran a space, and the he called me because he knew me, he knew i was the youngest photographer there, he knew i was following the revolution
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since several months, he knew my story and i don't know he wanted. to share that with me or maybe something like that, then he called me and at that time i saw him for one time he was not really usually most of the time he's very serious and sad face and and that time he look at me and he was smiling, i couldn't, didn't get what was happening, but actually the plane was just crossing the irina space, and for me for him that was victory, he had smile on his face because for the first time since 14 years he could come back to his home country, i got that pictures, that picture, he was surrounded by friends, like i know, i remember rafari, i knew rapari for from le château and some other people i didn't know, but i will remember his face all my life, he was sitting here looking through the window,
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looking to iran, his home country, he has not seen... since 14 years and he didn't know at that time, eight days or nine days later your country will change because of this return. i got these pictures and then after a short time we're not sure what was going to happen because actually the plane was not allowed to land on the airport we have to make another turn around and then we're all allowed to to to land on the airport and i wanted to take some pictures of the imam komaini but we couldn't go in front sur une balise nous avons entendu 10 minutes donc c'est pas c'est pas long le temps que il met sans doute les pompiers en place ou je ne sais trop quoi
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ressembblablement parce qu'il n'y avait aucun mouvement sur l'aérogar rien rien dans. et ensuite on nous a autorisé à atterrir et euh je revois encore l'atterrissage début d'atterrissage et puis vers le 250 m vers au 800 pied c'est ça j'ai décidé de remettre les gaz et pourquoi parce que nous survolions des
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maisons des cours des maisons et dans mon éprit. dans mon esprit, fugitivement, je me suis dit, si on veut abattre layatollah romanie, c'est maintenant à la mitrailleuse lourde, dans l'approche, nous étions à peine à 240 m du sol, on allait à une vitesse relativement. "we went back by the door in the back to go
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on the on the to go on the ground, and i was surprised of course, because there was not so many people, mainly policeman, because you nobody can come on the on the on the airport by itself, the crowd was waiting for him inside, i mean in the in merabad airport." "when i took the picture of the imam komeini coming down on this, i didn't know that was going to become an iconic pictures and historical picture, of course since i knew that, i would have done hundred of pictures of that, i didn't know, i didn't pay attention, it was normal thing, but eight days later that was the days of revolution, at that time and i mean this image..." uh gave me the possibility to continue my work to become a kind of famous photographer and that was very important for me. i understood
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also that from news becomes sometimes history like that day. "the last time i was here was 40 years ago when the imam khumeni arrived from paris with a special plane full of journalists and he went down the plane and he arrived here with this place was crowded with thousand of people and of course his friend were welcoming him uh you had b you had so many people around him and uh uh 'i mean even i cannot give you the name because everybody was there, it was so crazy, and uh, he sound, i made how many was there, and i could feel
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they were almost crying, i've got some picture where you can see them crying, and they were, the emotion was incredible for them, because it was since 15 years they were away from their country, and from that day, i mean in 10 days the whole system of the shock collapsed'. but that time you know when we were in the airport it was just where i don't know how we managed to be to do anything because it was like a big big big uh difficult to explain what it was really so many people everybody wanted to meet him everybody and imam khumani was just straight serious tense it was really incredible situation
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'i had to leave very quickly when the imam was in this hall because there was so many people thousand of people here and we had to find a way to go to b we had organized nothing and we have to find a car then i to live before him but i'm used to come in this place because actually in this airport we were coming in almost every day to send our film
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it's difficult to imagine this place during the revolution, it was very crowded, today it's very quiet, the monument behind me at during the time of the shah was called shahyad, and of course all the demonstration as a sign of provocation, they come here. and this place was surrounded by thousand of people every day, today this monument name is azad means freedom. you have to remember that when romania arrived from the airport, the first stop he made was here again as a provocation of the symbol, it was a symbol of the shah and it was a way to say, now i am in charge, it's finished, the time of of the shah is over.
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