1300 during the depose and then 24,520 metric tons registered after this revolution came and it goes the same for cement, aluminum, copper, electricity 2300 gigawatts to 312 gigaws per hour, mean these types of advancements are pretty remarkable, how is it that the islamic republic through sanctions and through all the restrictions was able to achieve? and advanced in so incredibly in these different fields that i just mentioned. well, yes, indeed, it's quite extraordinary how iran has progressed, and this has been a sort of a difficult situation for the enemies of the islamic revolution and the islamic state, are bewildered that with 45 years of sanctions a country should have been its. by

now, but not only has it progressed on all fronts, whether technologically, academically, at this moment, because one of the things that iran did was really to focus on education, and at this moment there are 47 iranian universities which are in the top 500 universities of the world, so that really gives you a sort of immense picture of what's happening, other factor to remember about education is that 60% of undergraduates, as you well know are women in iran, so again of this nonsense that is talked about in the west that iran neglects the female population of of the islamic republic of of iran is completely debunked, and then you carry on whether iran has sort of developed technologically, scientific. and and many,

many other fields, like ayatollah khamani has said that the sanctions have actually been a gift to to iran, because what has happened is that just like the resistance access, iran has been able to b the build the resistance economy if you like, for the last particularly the last 25 years, iran has had to, as i said, through the education sec. build capacity of talent in iran and that has contributed to the growth in many many sectors and of course iran has been of course trying to move away from the reliance of on hydrocarbons, therefore other industries have developed just like the drone sort of industry to take one example that iranian drones are now seem to be one of the best and the cheapest produced globally so again...

"that could be another export market that iran could utilize, so yes of course sanctions have hurt, there's no doubt at all, but it has made iran resilient when you to use a metaphor, if you throw someone in the sea, they will find a way of swimming out of it and surviving, because this is human nature, and iran has found an opportunity with the support." the people living in iran, especially the younger generation uh who have not seen the revolution post revolution generation if you like, they are contributing immensely, because what happens, you know, like shalaymani quite rightly pointed out that islamic republic is the center of islam and shiism, today hussain bin ali's base is in iran, you should know that the islamic republic is century, century, and if this

century is preserved, others will be preserved as well, if the enemy destroys this century, no century, neither the centuries belonging to ibrahim and mustafa will remain, so that i think is the fundamental issue why iran continues to survive and prosper, and i am very sure it will continue to sort of do so, and i remember sort of as as sort of interesting anecdote, i remember vividly the of islamic revolution and we had foreign minister called dr. david oway, labor party was in power in uk at that time, and soon after the revolution, he comes on bbc and says that, i don't think this revolution is going to survive more than two weeks, now that obviously has been a dream of the west continuously that the islamic revolution.

will fail in iran, but it has continues to become stronger and stronger, and of course you know the opposition to iran by raza shah pe sun sitting. in usa and organizing conferences in paris and so on again into you just before 2020 uh mr. bolton and and other leaders uh from america who gave a speech saying that they were hoping to celebrate uh 2021 post islamic revolution in tehran again they are being proven proven uh emphatically wrong in their analysis so i think "the sanctions have proved immensely important for the progress of iran and to make it resilient. all right, let's bring in ally risk. he is a journalist and political analyst who joins us from beirout. ellierus, welcome, so uh, i think i want to come at you

with this question as to why it is that we're looking at the uh, i'm not going to call it a standoff, but a clash of ideals when it comes to the islamic republic and the..." west, in particular the us. i think on the us side, if you agree, there has been a deduction from uh, the allies that the us perhaps had, and uh, basically the western block is somewhat in some sort of transformation, and the palestinian issue has caused a lot of grievances in that regard or differences, i should say, and therefore we are seeing uh people perhaps identifying more with iran and what it stands for, and i'm using the palestine issue. because we're seeing what's unfolding this genocide in the gaza strip um and of course that's one of the core issues the islamic republic um identifying with the oppressed people of palestine. is it correct to look at it this way? well, i think that definitely you're seeing some very important

developments linked to the global south. global south of course describing mostly the developing nations and the non-white countries of the world. um, i think... "this was particularly evident in the case filed by south africa with the international court of justice, so definitely i think that the non-white world, you know, asia, africa, latin america, those countries, if you look at the way they're pursuing their foreign policy, you can see that they're distancing themselves more and more from us foreign policy, and this doesn't apply by the way only to the situation in gaza, i think if you look at the..." in ukraine as well, it's interesting that many of the of these countries from the global global south also didn't join the anti-russian campaign, so um, it is true, it can be said that more and more countries appear to be drifting away from the

us, the latest stance related to gaza, the biden administration's all out support for israel, this is i think greatly eroded the us claims about having a moral authority or... being a beacon of freedom, etc., particularly given in mind that you have in israel the most right-wing government in history, and this, i think, explains to a large extent why the biden administration appears to be intent now on, trying to bringing, bring an end or trying to somewhat show that it's doing something, if you notice the sanctions which were issued against some leaders of the israeli settler movement, so yeah, i do believe that things are changing, i think that um... "things are changing in favor of iranian, iran's world view, which always expressed doubts and suspicions about the us claim to being to being the moral actor or the most moral actor, the actor which has the freedoms and ethics, etc., things are indeed

pushing an opposite direction. uh, this whole notion of freedom, particularly freedom of expression, is something that the west wants to make it, pear that is the flag bearer of, but yet just days ago you had the facebook and the instagram accounts of iran's leader be taken out, i mean just just is a clear example of of double standards and that is something that iran you makes a point to obviously highlight, saying you see this is this is what the west does um so so when it comes to people who are critiking iran it doesn't quite make sense. "who are in favor the west or the us uh when they practice time and again uh double standard of certain issues um so the question is are people seeing the light of the end of the tunnel when it comes to what iran stands for what iran is saying is this question addressed to

me sorry i'm sorry go ahead okay look what has happened in the last uh you" nearly 128, 20 days in gaza, and the sort of boot manner in which the genocide is being committed by the zionist regime. "i have stopped calling it a zionist regime, i call it the talmudic terrorist who occupying that part of west asia, is very clear that the lies and lies and lies that were promoted by the zionist regime and the west in support of it and really sort of echoing everything that comes out of tel aviv as truth, people have realized that it is not truthful, they lie and..." as i said, it's been a whole history of lying since the advent of the zionist

regime 75 years ago and even prior to that using the holocaust industry to really implant foreigners in in in in in in in palestine, so that has also given it factor that at the enemies of iran when they say something, i think the public hair. in the west is sort of realizing that how untruthful their media is, the legacy media in the west and their politicians, of course iran has been portrayed as as rogue state, a terrorist state, state, a state in which women's rights are not there, so of course all those factors sort of make the people think that iran is - evil nation against humanity, but their public are realizing due to gaza, and what's

been happening there, as i said, that everything that is coming out of the mainstream media in the west is not being accepted as being complete picture, and of course what is happening with the war in ukraine as well is sort of showing the double standards of the west and part. particularly the media at the end of the day, it's not only the politicians, but of course the media works in conjunction with the politicians of the west to promote a line which is against the oppressed people, and and people are realizing that very clearly, and of course, like i has many times said that soft power is very, very important, and i think the... islamic republic of iran needs to do lot more, but of course the voices are being

silenced, as you quite rightly said that even's facebook account has been taken down, press tv has been banned from uk to operate, rt was banned, chinese tv, so of course they are using all kinds of instruments, but i think again the people are not relying on mainstream. media, there is ample alternative media that is available for people to really get information, which is more truthful and really sort of representing a view which is totally different to what is being promoted by london, paris or washington. sure, thank you, we do appreciate that political anal from london, we're going to say goodbye to him, thank you so much for your input. i wisk, continuing with you, we can't not talk about resistance, which lies in different facets of not only iranian lives, but this

long republic in terms of one of its core tenants uh, but resistance groups in particular is something that i like to ask you about, which has been one of the fruits, i can i can say of the islamic uh revolution, um, give us your take on it, in particularly the fact that many are under the false understanding that resistance groups are being directed by iran in terms of... how they're carrying out themselves and that is not the case where iran obviously was resisting the the western uh um influence in particular the us which wanted to obviously have you want to obey to his dictats but iran has pushed that uh and had resistance against that throughout the years and decades uh and again your take on on the on on the role of the resistance groups and how the islamic republic had pivotal uh function towards that? "i think that um, regarding the claims that the united that sorry, that iran it is

the one which dictates what resistance groups do. i think that even in mainstream media, you're you're beginning to see some changes, um, well-known journalists in websites like defense one, websites which i consider to be either mainstream or close to mainstream, even they have be have begun to admit the fact that or they're publishing..." um from per people who had admit to the fact that iran doesn't control um groups like hazballah like the houthies in yemen like hamas etc the resistance. movements, so i think that this claim has been debunked to a large extent. on the other hand, if you look at the way the united states deals with other groups, some people believe that it's the us which issues its dictates to groups which are considered to be us proxis, so there's an interesting irony involved here about um iran about the

fact that or the general role played by resistance groups, i think that ' "the resistance in lebanon, other groups elsewhere, they found in iran a party which would be able to put an end or would should would support them in putting an end to injustice and oppression. uh, if you take the example of lebanon, you had the shaas in south lebanon who suffered greatly at the hands of the israelis, they found in iran the necessary source of support required in order to resist these unjust policies. i think that the same..." applies as well with the groups like the hoothis in yeman or ansar allah and also hamas and even the groups in iraq, you have to remember in iraq it was very important development whereby iran under the leadership of the former kuts commander general qasim sulaimani was the first to come to iraq's aid even before the united states

did by the way in confronting that danger which was indeed an existential danger not just to iraqi shias but i think... also to people of other confessions, you remember the sufferings of the christian azidis or yazidis, if you recall mount sinjar, the events over there, so iran has played a very important role in countering a danger which was considered to be not just danger to the region and to certain religious sects or conventions, but danger to the whole world, isis attacks reach different parts of the world, so this is where we can see the import the role played by iran a supportive role in collaborating and providing this necessary kinds of assistance to those countries that either face oppression or face existential terrorist dangers or f face both at the same time which can apply to can be applied to many countries of of this region um the uh

this policy has born fruit by the way if you look at the middle east right now "we can indeed talk of new middle east, yemen has become a resistance, not just a resistance group or resistance movement, but rather a resistance nation. if you look at the speeches by abdul malik al hothi and the massive turnouts coming out, both to watch to be there in the listening to the speeches and also the mass protests, um, hazballah strength, hamas's strength, as we saw illustrated in the october seven events." so new middle east has come into existence which is capable of countering both israel and the united states and i think that is a big development and uh iran has played pivotal part in bringing about this new situation. all right, let's bring in uh uh habiba jaguuri, journalist and activist from adeilade australia who joins us. welcome to the program uh we're talking about resistance

groups and i want to ask you uh given the fact that the islamic republic has supported. resistance groups has enabled them in one form or another in order to uh go after the ideals, which uh somewhat parallels what uh iran is after, um, why do you think that uh, first of all that is the case, and why do you think that uh, this has resonated with many people around the world, groups like hezbollah or hamas or other resistance groups uh that uh are after uh you know uh not having their independence taken uh and standing up for the ideals uh that the islamic republic for example has. hello, thank you so much for having me. firstly, my heartfelt congratulations to the country iran, to all the revolutionary people, all the people inside of iran for the 45th anniversary of the success of the islamic revolution. when i hear that the islamic republic supports resistance groups, i hear

that the islamic republic supports human rights. i hear that the islamic republic supports the struggle. for liberation and freedom, justice, i hear that the islamic republic supports sovereignty, self-determination and countries and people deciding their own fate away from the us and the western hegemonic and imperialist agendas. i think that there is so much resignation between these, between these, because people are growing tired, people are oppressed by their governments. the working class realizes that their rights are diminished and that the government cares. more about plundering other countries, cares more about profit, cares more about war and weapons, rather than sustaining their people, rather than advancing their own working class, so people... tired of this and people have the right to resist, people have the right to protest, the oppression that is going on around the world, especially in occupied palestine by the state of israel,

thanks to the backing, the diplomatic and military support of america, people can now see that there is oppression, there's a fight, there's a struggle for oppression and there's a struggle for justice, and they see that iran because of their revolution, the success that they had by eliminating america out of their region out of... their country and by gaining self-determination have gained hope that this is a possibility for them as well, hence why these resistance groups have sprung and hence why there is so much mass popularity with them with the public. i wesca, taking a look at what the us has been reduced to, and i'm somewhat at fault here for making the conversation turn into uh the us visa v iran uh, but we've seen how much the us has stood against iran. and acted against iran, but uh, so be it. the us has been reduced to in some countries, um, having to convince the country that it needs to stay

there, such as iraq. now, there are talks with the iraqi government on how it's going to transition out of the country, or for it to illegally uh be in a country like syria. uh, why is it that the us pursues that policy uh, where iran has said uh, it is source of instability in the region, which is very well-known fact, uh, hence uh showing how what the us has been reduced to when it comes to his presence. well, this is for ali risk i'm sorry, go ahead. yeah, um, indeed, the us policies whether it be deliberately or not deliberately have brought about havoc in the region, starting first and foremost with the george w. bush administration, entering iraq, under the pretext of weapons of mass destruction, and then the police... is in the aftermath, as i said, whether deliberately or non-deliberately, brought about great dangers, including the emergence of al-qaida in iraq led by abu musab zarqawi. we saw also

what happened in libya, look how the situation over there has deteriorated greatly, um, so the u.s., it, its militaristic policies have brought about great damage to the region, and it has been a source of instability, um, as a result of the approach with which it has taken, at the same time the us accuses iran of promoting this instability, which i think is a bit um, ironic or whatever you want to call it, maybe it reflects reflects kind of hypocrisy, us enmity towards iran by the way, i think is great greatly rooted in two factors, number one would be the arrogance of the us, which does not like to see any independent country which has its independent policy being successful in the region, and i think a second element, which i believe is even more important is the outright us support for israel, the us presence in countries like

syria and to lesser extent in iraq, this stems greatly from protecting israel, they often refer to the beirot, damascus, baghdad corridor, that land corridor, a us troops based in syria, one of their main missions is to prevent. that corridor for being established as an active service for the israeli side, and i think this just shows you how much the israel is indeed have a large sway or have a great influence and domination over us policy in the region. i'm not saying that that's the only factor in us policy in this region, but it certainly is major factor, and i think that one of the very important conclusions which we can draw from this current war in gaza is how much..." "the israelis can indeed pursue policies and how how much control they have over the us foreign policy. uh, one of the major reasons

why biden, for example, isn't taking even firmer, isn't taking firmer action to stop the israeli genocide is domestic political calculations, in addition to the fact that he himself is a strong supporter of israel, so these pro israeli policies, i think, they do. play a very, very important role in the united states pursuing a policy in the region, which in the end, i think, backfires against the us itself. i think that the us has lost a lot of influence and lot of credibility in the region uh, because of its proisrady tilt, so had the us behaved differently, i think that its situation would be in you, lot different than it is today. well, the islamic republic uh, taking a look at some of the things that... has done, um, perhaps uh, when we take a look at the wars, habib jagori, um, it doesn't want the world to forget when it comes to, let's say yemen,

where 400,00 yemeneses. uh died, they were killed as a result of the war. this was the war that was back to the hilt by the us, for example when it comes to military sales, um, or the war in afghanistan where so many died. um, and the islamic republic wants to make sure that the world doesn't forget the foreign policy adventures that have led to so many deaths that were uh either led by or supported by in whole or in part by the us. there's other uh theaters, different theaters where... "the us has played a dr destructive role, which theaters stands out in your mind? the theaters that the us has played in the destructive role, i can think of every single colonized country, and i can take it back to the us, starting from the us itself, which is a country that is built on the genocide and enslavement of its native population and the enslavement of slaves that they bought in

from africa as well as stealing their..." resources, there was a recent study that was done and it concluded that africa is owned trillions of dollars in reparations from the wealth and resources that it was that it had been stolen from by the us and by europe. the us is a global evil power, it is global arrogance. when the leader of the islamic revolution and the fighter of the islamic revolution, ruhullah khamaini, imam ruhullah khumaini came and declared america is the great satan shaitan akbar. this was vision. it was an understanding that the role that the us plays in the world is to completely suppress all humans to a system that the system will control the way that they live their lives, their thought processes. it's a system of colonization not only of your land and your political and economic system but of your mind and of your culture. we brought yemen in as an example. yemen suffered eight

years of blockade. the world, the un had declared the world's worst famine by saudi arabia, by the us, and it was iran through their dealings with saudi arabia that after eight years, the blockade was lifted, and now it is yemen that is playing such pivotal role in fighting us aggression in the red sea, that is playing such an important role in disrupting production, that has caused countries such as australia and the uk and us to retaliate its civilians, this islamic revolution gave people the torch of hope and it gave people the pathway towards dignity, towards self-determination and to decide your own fate, to not be subjugated to systems, but to be free and liberated people who can decide what your country should do, who can build democracy and who can be all about people power. right now the situation in gaza is an example of the evil atrocities that the us is willing to commit to remain in power.

israel is nothing without the support of the us, israel is a thinking ship and so is the us, and that is all because of the inspiration of the islamic revolution that is being spread out worldwide. the uh way that we're looking forward now, given the fact that 45 years of passt, in terms of the path that iran has taken, um, it it obviously is still its uh alert when it comes to the us and its uh destructive activities against iran. but uh it has found some major allies uh that uh the us through its uh uh i guess uh destructive moves against countries like russia like china has put them into the corner uh along with iran and they have united and because of that it's somewhat has involved other countries coming into that uh i guess uh corner uh and that spot uh with iran do you think that um we're look at

looking at the fact that uh the us and some of its allies are now outnumbered when it comes to um the world as a whole in terms of countries uniting coming into one block let's so to speak and the one that i think of are blocks like for example bricks how we seeing so many countries wanting to join it um which obviously is not a good sign for the us uh before i answer the question just a quick comment on the um somewhat maligne american activities or actions throughout history, the us indeed does have a history of pursuing some very maligne evil actions and policies. uh, one very important example is the us policies in latin america, what they call the american backyard, how they used to support death, death squads in places like el salvador, nicaragua, latin america hence has very, very big