the voice of the voiceless press tv. hello and welcome to press tv spotlight, i'm marse hashimi, thanks so much for being with us. almost four and a half months later, the so-called civilized world continues to watch israeli regime's genocide of palestinians in gaza without stopping it, besides bombs targeting the kids in tents, children are passing out from hunger with some literally dying from hunger. "there's still little

food, little clean water, few supplies, no electricity, no fuel, and nowhere safe to go. the nightmare continues and the majority of the world allows it, except for the access of resistance. well, let me get our guests in on this program, i'd like to welcome them out of belfast, after and west asia expert, saib shath." and peter ford, former british ambassador to syria out of london. oh, thank you both for being with me on this spotlight. i'd like to start off in belfast and sub, at least 28,500 palestinians have been killed in gaza, and now 1.5 million people are in raffa, the most populated place on earth that israel has been bombing and threatening a ground invasion. your perspective, what is

the israeli regime's goal at this point in time? the israeli regime's goal is the the design projects goal from the beginning to create israel, a greater israel, and they they want to cleanse the palestinian people out of the gaza strip, they trying to do it in a way which is will look like the pandemic got them, a starvation and hunger got the people, and voluntary they went and the broke made a hole in the egyptian fence at the border and rafah near rafah crossing which they call it the philadelphia corridor and that's the ideal scenarios which the zianist entity genocidal war planning for from the beginning they they want to bush them in a way they just want to run for their lives and

that's what they doing, they want to create the nightmare scenario for the egyptians and for the palestinian as well, they at the beginning when they they were saying they ask the united nation help to move the palestinians out of rafa, the united nation officials repeatedly told them there is no safe place in gaza and we cannot help in in in in like creating waves of refugees. out of the gaza strip, that's what they they they were attacking the united nation all along, they wanted now the united nation to help them in in creating another nakba as the their officials called it at the beginning of their attacks in gaza last october when they call it nakba 2023, this is the the the the the the the design and this is coming on the back of as yesterday the wall street journal.

uh they declare, they stated from sources in the united states of america, joe biden send them tons of of ammunition and weaponry and state of art weaponry, plus the money which is the congress of course released for them, and we know till now joe biden bypass congress twice to arm the zinest entity to continue its genocide, they they they throw a screen. smoke screen at the the international community saying they're trying to tell netanyahu to be gentle in in the way with with the palestinians people in in rafa. i can't believe what the the the the the united states of america comes out of with and the western leaders come they are up to their of neck and and and the genocide. well let's look at that peter uh this. the regime has no

red line, what about its supporters in the west? do you think there's a red line that they will not let the zionist cross in this ethnic cleansing campaign against the palestinian nation because? as saib said, i mean again uh recently the united states again gave more weapons, more money, so is there a red line you think for them for the zianist regime or not? i believe, unfortunately there is no red line experience so far suggests that the the main western powers, america, britain, germany have infinite appetite. for palestinin suffering, and there are literally no limits to palestinin suffering which they can endure. this is embarrassing them with their public opinion, and we saw today in in london and

other capitals, huge demonstrations, popular demonstrations against governments and politicians, um, but at the end of the... the day uh they will not do um what is actually necessary. the americans are ready. okay, unfortunately we've lost peter, hopefully we'll be able to reestablish that connection. let me cross back over to belfast and saib. um, let's look at the reasons for the complicity of these western countries, belfast and london, and hopefully we'll get to reestablish that as we continue our discussions on the situation of what is happening. on the ground still as we have now going more than four, almost four and a half months of this genocide, and we're talking about at least 28,500 people being killed, but of course estimates say that it's over 30,000, perhaps way over 30,00, as still it

is believed that thousands of people are still under the rubble, and thousands perhaps of others, their bodies have been - barried and mass graves are even decomposed at this point in time, this major tragedy that is to taking place on the ground right now in rafa, that basically symbolizes what has been happening not only for this four and a half months, but in reality we have seen this take place for 75 years against the palestinian nation, and and now it has reached a point is for a starvation, that individuals, they're saying, fathers are saying that at night they tie, they actually tie rocks, tie stones to the stomach of their kids and their owns and their family, um, so the hunger pains are less painful, and this is the reality that we

are now dealing with in gaza as the whole world continues to watch, i'm going to cross back over to belfast and... i have sabib back, i believe i have both of you back, thank you so much, sorry about that technical uh difficulty viewers, but uh back to sap now, the reasons in your perspective, sap, for the complicity of these western countries and allowing the regime, not just allowing them, but enhancing this genocide to take place, what do they get out of it? it's, i believe myself, this is the deep. state in the united states of america, the intelligence services and the deep state, they want the zinest entity to continue and the west behind them to continue with the genocide, it's it's it's it's an issue to do with their hegemony in in west asia as well,

which is i always want emphasize this point, if they lose the battle in gaza, that's what they the the west believe, then..." "the zis entity will be the project of creating this outpost zinis entity there to hegemonize the region while they are busy tackling russia and tackling china if we notice the backage from the congress came for three countries, ukraine, taiwan and the zinus entity, that's what shows where is the global battle of the the deep state, the the united states of america and its..." and mad dogs in the west or the zin entity, so in if they lose this battle, if they lose the creating again the deterrants and the balance and shifting the balance of power as used to be before, then they will lose west asia, and if they lose

west asia it will implicate badly on their battle against china especially, because they cannot control the growth of chinese, they cannot control after that, the the the balance of power with the russians and with the chinese, so they see it vital to and to to take the mask off and show they are actually mean genocide. in doing and gaza and that's why the whole countries in the region if in even west asia all of it they have to line up behind the zinus entity uh sorry behind the palestina resistant and if the palestina resistant lose this battle which they are not on the ground they are winning but the the heavy price they are making them pay this entity and the west is with the to do with the civilians because the the the the resist is job to to implicate casualty and make the incubation behav prices, it cannot

protect the civilian infrastructure and the population, which is the duty of the arabic countries, okay, stay with me on that bause we're going to get back to we're going to get back to that point, um, but peter, your take on what s has said, i mean, is this basically this this war of ideologies that is taking place, i mean you are a former british off. political official, your assessment of really what is going on and what is that stake for these western countries to be so um uh basically black and white with this, no matter what the israeli regime does, it still gets 100 support support from them. um, well, first of all, the governments concerned, britain, america, germany, france, are not, paying heavy price for the support that they're giving israel, it's an easy political

choice for them, because they they are not paying very visible price, of course there is a price for example, the blockade on trade in the red sea is actually hitting the british economy, but people don't know that, they don't realize, so governments think that this is they get a free pass. 'there's no penalty to support israel to the hill, and i just want to stress that this is about domestic politics very much, forget the geopolitics, when i was a diplomat, we would talk about the geopolitics, but the politicians were much more interested in the domestic politics, and that's what's going on here, in the case of britain, the government is enjoying the support of the'. core right-wing nationalist supporters and at the moment it

it it it suffering lot the british government on many fronts, but at least it needs to placate its core nationalist far right supporters, that's what support for what about peter, sorry to jump in here, what about you stated earlier that today was another large demonstration as more and more people um actually show their support? the palestinians, i mean, how does that affect british public policy and and go ahead, yeah, it's a good question, but the answer is that the people who are marching are not people who are going to vote for the conservative government anyway, they can be be discounted, they'll vote for for other parties, this is a forgone conclusion, so the the government reckon that they're not paying a pol cost, but if if they did the moral thing, if they did the the sensible thing for british

interests, which would be to call for an immediate fire, then they would pay heavy price, they would lose many of their far right, often racist supporters, and they would also lose the support of half of the the media, the not social media obviously, but legacy, mainstream media, much of which is solidly behind israel, and thirdly, they would lose financial support from the supporters of israel, the business people who are backing uh the most extreme racist policies and okay, well stop, you had mentioned about the uh muslim countries in the region, let's let's look at some of the complicity uh of muslim and arab nations in this genocide against the palestinian. "first of all, which countries would you say are working hand-in- hand with the israeli regime

or helping the israeli regime, and why would they do that? what are they getting out of this? there is uh lots of countries, i want to just mention one line coming from india through the emirates, through saudi arabia, through jordan and going and supplying all logistic what's needed by the zinist entity to cancel in a way the the battle." the brave yemani people showing at the red sea, this is part of it, but they are not succeeding. these countries, if we want to just historical back, little bit of historical background. the these countries are created as what we call the arab zionis and they are linked together with the zionist entity, the the emiraties and the saudis and the jordanian are all of this creation when the the the british designed this entity and these as buffer zone and the protectors of the ziist entity, once the zionist regime

collapse in palestine, these these regimes will go, this is what they... so they know their existence is linked to that, they they don't buy into arabism or islam or whatever, they buy into their this regimes who are ruling there, these people who's ruling over the emirates or saudi arabia where bidw tribes, the british picked them and b made out of them you know brinds and royal families and told them as long as they look after the the interest of the british which is now as well... translated into the american empire, you will be the ruling families in there once you get out of line, will replace you, and i don't want to go into stories in there, but this is obvious, so this is the the benefit of these countries and always always work against the palestinian liberation movement or the arab project of unifying the arab world as a one

entity during nas regime in egypt, because if this if the arab succeed. in building one arabic country, it will be very costly for the americans or for any western regime to attack and arab world and will be and will be very easy for them to cleanse the design entity with this satanic project out of palestine, so this is where the the the problem is, lot of people in the region don't get it, don't understand the benefit of these royal families ' with a king of jordan, he cannot even object to what the american base is doing or to what the zin entity require from him through jordan, the the he signed the jordan in 1994 deal, peace deal with the zinis entity for what, they handed over in

1967 the west bank and jerusalem, they didn't have any kind of a class, it's all cover up. for beefing up design entity and and protecting it, so they are part of the project, part of what the american design in the region, they cannot go out of line. well, i'd like to look at the other side of things now, peter, because we do have muslim countries or groups that on the other hand are very much supportive of the palestinian people, whether we look at what is happening from the yemeni people, are we look at? hezbollah, we look at some of the irakis or or others, i want to talk about that side of things and the importance of what is happening on that side of the coin. well, what, what the yemen is are doing is incredibly important, tonight, netanyahu made an important speech, um, he faced today

massive demonstrations in tel aviv, many is... want him to give priority to getting the hostages released rather than his mad plans to crush hamas and he acknowledged that there were deep economic problems facing israel. now this is the first time that he has acknowledged these problems, but they are real, and they are caused by the war generally, but most specifically by by the blockade operated by ansar allah, the yemen group, and this has resulted just few days ago in the moodi's credit agency giving israel a downgrade, which may means that the government will have to pay more money on international money markets to to borrow,

this is really serious for israel, tens of thousand. of israelis are not able to go to their homes in the north and the south, hundreds of thousands of reserve military reservists are taken away from the their work every week, so this is factor which is often overlooked, similarly the fact that one third the israeli army is tied up in the north because of the pressure from hizballah, so the... are basically doing what the americans won't do, which is put real, real pressure on israel to bring this crisis. to an end quickly, and we hope so, and with that brings us to the end of the program, uh, like to thank both of you for being with us, saib shath, author and west asia expert out of

belfast, peter ford, former british ambassador to syria out of london, and thank you viewers for being with us on another spotlight, i'm marza hashimy, signing out for myself and all the crew right here in tehran, hope to see you right here next time, goodbye. palestina vencerá, no es una guerra, es genocidio.

امام انظاركم هنا في ميدان الشهداء في صوره تحمل العديد وهم من فقدوا خلنانهما اقوى واكبر من دانيس قرس فلسطين.

انا كثير عم يجينا البرد كثير عم يجيكم برد ايه سلامته سلامته من البردي ايدك لمسيني ايدك.

in this week's show we'll be explaining how professor david miller created a legal precedent by making opposition to zionism a protected characteristic. this means that employers can no longer use opposition to zionism as a pretext to discriminate, dismiss or destroy people's careers. and now it's established that actually the the not statements which are out there in any way racist, not anti-semitic, and these are views which is... perfectly legitimate for anti-racist to hold as as we had always maintained, it's a very - comprehensive um robus judgment, a judgment that's been made by the most senior judge in that particular uh region um and so yes it is very interesting judgment absolutely.

this is my land and my country. it is not

only the 1948 or 19. 67 borders from the sea to the river, i am not ready to let go of a centimeter. israel is here like any foot by the support of the europe, by the support of the united states, that's why they separate the land, well i was at the babo sham's protest last week and i myself had a my head banged against the bus by soldier. illegally on illegal stolen land and they are arresting us the palestinian. this is historical palestine.

the headlines this hour, after 135 days of the us israely genocidal war in gaza, the main hospital hon unis goes out of service. the us miles to block another un security council effort to adopt the ceasefire resolution in gaza, despite the escalating humanitarian. is in the baseage strip and protesters across the world denounce the us israely aggression against palestinians, calling for immediate halt to the killing campaign in gaza.