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tv   SPOTLIGHT  PRESSTV  February 22, 2024 10:02pm-10:31pm IRST

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occupation and apartite practices on occupied palestinian land. in this edition of the spotlight we will look at how the israeli regime has been defeated on so many fronts from the battlefield to its economy and even its international standing, no matter how hard the us has supported this illegal regime, while support for palestinians and the resistance has only increased. first let me introduce our guests for this edition of the program. steve bell, activist that stopped the war coalition, joins us from comventry in the uk. also joining us is mar shajar, chairman of the zamic human rights commission who joins us here, the capital tehran. okay, great, welcome to you both, gentlemen. steve bell, let me first start with you, uh, we're looking at regional resistance groups that are unified in the position when it comes to the um israeli of regime and obviously in support for the palestinians. um, i'm going to start out with hesbullah uh, which uh has been militarily engaged with israeli regime uh. on almost
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daily basis, if not a daily basis, i'm wondering as to why it is that israel wants to continue this uh targeting of hesbollah and in turn lebanon um this in this form of manner a daily basis while it's carrying out his uh us israely genocidal war on the gaza strap. well, i think the reason it is doing so is because it wants to um extend.
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of his own domestic weakness um coming into play um so i think that's why for the israeli uh government it's a case of um maintaining the dynamic that it has uh established in uh palestine and it wants to uh further involve the united states by provocations in the north well uh taking a look at another uh country here and that's yemen m
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apartite genocidal system of apartite so occupied palestine regime, the reality is that the regime of apartide and genocidal action, it needs conflict, it cannot survive within harmony, so it needs to create conflict, it needs to create fear, it needs to create fear among its own supporters to just
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resistance who have risen up to stop this genocide, to make it difficult, to make an statement to act take action, be it sort of lebanese resistance or be it the resistance in occupied palestine or in iraq or in syria or in yemen. what is really shocking is why isn't anyone else standing up doing what?
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international community needs to do under his commitment standing against genocide, genocide that we haven't experienced in our lifetimes in the... way that we are doing day in, day out, in front of our television, the death and destruction and being brought to innocent people, men, women and children, it's unbelievable, and the question is not why yemenis have risen up to their responsibility to stand and do what they can against this genocide to stop this genocide, the question really should be asked, why isn't anybody? doing anything and indeed, why are they supporting the genocide rather than trying to stop it? well, that's the whole thing uh, this uh direct action uh needs to be put under the microscope here, mean you belong steve bell to stop the war coalition uh and you guys have been uh active in terms
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the different causes throughout the years and uh the really kudos to you uh because i know you've been involved with the or as an organizational uh piece behind some of the largest european protests and solidarity with the palestinians, we spoke earlier um um in the news to somebody from palestine action and and we're looking at to how this has become politicized when we look at for example what happened in parliament when it comes to the smp making announcement for um immediate seeire but the labor and the conservatives have proposed amendments isn't that politicizing issue that needs to really um take a look at what's happening in order to prevent it direct action what do you think should be in terms of that in that regard? well, i think that there are many forms of action that aid the palestinians and certainly organizing demonstrations, mass demonstrations is an important aid to the palestinians, it creates enormous pressure
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upon governments and that in turn reflects itself a pressure um upon the united states government, which is... after all the decisive government in this, if they wanted to, they could stop this war uh tomorrow simply by cutting off um aid and arms to israel, they're not about to do that, so the mobilizations that have taken place in britain and of course throughout the world have been of great um assistance, and their expression of this is that in today's times for example, most recent poll indicates that 66% of the british public support cease fire and 61% uh support uh believe that israel should enter into peace negotiations with hammers. this is despite the bipartisan position in parliament against such a stance.
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so i think that the mobilization that there are a whole range of tactics and activity which people um take part in and all of these add weight to this international move. of solidarity with the palestinians. well, since you mentioned the us, we need to talk about that, master shajar, maybe you can uh, maybe you can lead me as to where and how and to in what respect we should talk about the us, because we are looking at the entity that has actually been able to help israel continue to do what it's done throughout the years and decades, something that has been discussed in the in the icj. um, this is costing uh joe biden, though putting genocide next to joe biden's political career, i think is wrong. but uh isn't that making an impact, however this uh people power like in the us and even in the uk and maybe other countries? yeah, think i think really one has to uh sort of uh really appreciate and and i don't want to be
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little the civil society and and the ordinary peoples beat in britain, europe or in united state bravely have come out uh in support of palestinians and against genocide, this is fantastic, but having said that, i think on other side we are seeing that the international institutions are almost you know bankrup, they are really are not fit for purpose, and indeed the democracy, be it in europe or be it in united state is actually bankrupt and overwhelming majority of people in the west, let alone around the world are are for immediate ceasefy, and then those to claim to be the voices and the will of the people, the establishment are supporting
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genocide, and this is outrageous, i mean really what we are saying is a damnation of humanity. power are not going according to wishes of the majority or indeed the interest of the majority, there is no political, social, economical benefit for united states or europe to support this genocide, this genocide brings no benefit to anyone, to any citizen around the world, but the fact of the matter is that these so-called
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to try to stop this genocide, but i think we need to really evaluate what has gone wrong with our systems, that our systems are set and and fixed to support genocide despite the fact that majority of citizens want immediate sees fire. well, is there something wrong with the system? uh, for example, steve bell, uh, is there something wrong with the? when that has brought the icj, the highest court into the picture, you have 53 countries, you
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have all of them coming out making deliberations, and all of them are criticizing and opposing the way that israel has conducted itself in terms of human rights violations and in terms of just an apartide regime to the max almost, um, first of all, what do you make of the fact that that has happened, and uh, obviously israel's prime minister benjamin netanyahu has totally dismissed any of the statements that have been made. and leveled against israel, well, firstly, it is evident that the global majority both expressed through the united nations and in the activity of people around the world, the global majority is with the palestinians and demands justice and peace uh for the palestinians, however, the institutions reflect the um of forces in the world, the fact that the um united states is
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the most powerful state, has a military budget 11 times higher than um most other states, and um is the reason that um it's able to exert that power in support of israel at this point in time, that's why there isn't a solution.
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week and maybe can't exert pressure on israel, but um there's the other um point of
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view where the us is playing double game here out in the public is saying we're going to do our best, we're going to see what we can do, etc. there's a peace uh there are peace talks that are happening in etups uh and the us is there, but at the same time i see you shaking your head so i'm just going to let you go ahead, let let us be frank, you know this is not an exceptional time that is... exceptionally we're going down this route because of a weak president etc etc. the fact is this that our international institutions have failed to stop ' all genocide and all genocidal act, you now bosnia, rwanda, and what happened in afghanistan, what happened in iraq, what happened in syria, what happened in in libya, you know, it really has been not fit for the purpose, if at this particular time when we are seeing genocide taking place so clearly, so visibly, so
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horribly, they in day out... "if we don't wake up and realize that these institutions are not fit for purpose, they're not going to stop genocide, they never gna be doing that, they are, in reality, in practice, they are tools of colonialism, and you know, they have never meant to do that, their whole infrastructure, v system, etc., etc., is all fixed, not to..." take any action or to stop any genocidal act, if they can't do it right now, in the way that we are visibly seeing it, and as as she said, you know, overwhelming majority of the global community sees it and urges and and wants to this to
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stop, and they're not able to do that, then we need to be, this should be a wet up call for.
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"well, i think, as i said, that the united states desperately wants to assert reassert its power having taken setback in the ukraine, and that's why it's determined to um get what it sees as a uh victory um for um israel, it cannot, it believes it that a cease fire would be setback uh for the
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netanyahu government, it understands that, um, so..." "the the united states is is trying to formulate a position where it says there will be a temporary cease fire which would lead to all captives being uh released, but the facts of the matter are the united states is engaging in these kind of um contortions, because the israeli government and the united states have different war aims, the israeli government wants to drive at the..." out of gaza and to maintain a permanent occupation, the the united states wants to get an agreement which will allow for some kind of palestinian administration in gaza and and the agreement of the the arab states who are allied to the united states,
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so there are differences and that's why there is some tension between them. "we are we know that the united states is pressing on for a type of cease fire and we know that benny gants um the israeli minister this week said that there were promising signs so there is obviously something um substantial underway in the these negotiations which um uh is are being mediated by qatar, egypt and others um but nevertheless there is this tension in the war aims and until that is resolved" "and until the united states puts real pressure upon israel to settle, then the the war will continue okay, this failure, as you mentioned, masu shajar of..." the international organizations and and i believe you're referring to the un, i'm guessing in this case in point, um, it's not going to get solved, right? i mean, we don't, i don't, if there's anything that you may know that shows
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that it's going to, then maybe you can tell us, we're looking at another scenario that's been unfolding and that's inside of occupied palestine in the occupied west bank, a gaza genocidal war hopefully will come to an end at some point, but the way that it comes to an end is going to be reflective of how what's going to happen there. in occupied west bank, that fire needs to be put out before it turns into what the gaza strip is has turned into. what do you think needs to be done here in order to prevent that from happening? well, i think first of all we all agree that this didn't start on 7th of october, this has been going on for very long time, and what is happening now is is the ultimate scenario of of azionism and the policies of ethnic.
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become a very horrible place to live in, and i think that realization is needed for us to take the first step to say that we need some fundamental change. i don't think tomorrow we're gonna have a another united nation setup um, you know, somewhere else, or next door, and but the fact is this that we need to think, this is the time to think forward, and the policies that we have had. in past of trying to bring tranquility to the world and saying never again, you know, these sort of united nation, international courts and
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everything else are incompetent to bring those values, you know, it really is utterly hollow, empty talk to say never again, with these sort of structures, with these sort of institutions, be it the sort of un or inter national court, eu or you know oic, they all are not fit for purpose, and if we are unable to think beyond these institution for creating a society that will be fit for purpose for our next generations, then we are failing, and and those who are dying, innocently, day in, day out, are dying in vein, not, nothing is...
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team, it's goodbye. alexander dugin challenges the western capitalism and the unipolar world. he says the world has moved away from the western subjugation and countries like iran, russia, china and turkey have stood up against the...
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how do they survive amid indiscriminate bombings and explosions?
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threats of a ground and offensive on the southern city in gaza strip despite a humanitarian crisis there. the leader of eurons islamic revolution at khamenei says that gaza is currently the major issue of the muslim world. and the leader of yemen sansla vows intensified operations against israel linked vessels and the us in uk ships and supported the people of gaza.