of hello everyone and thanks for tuning in. this is gaza under attack, coming to you from the british capital, london. before we get to the discussion with the panel, let's review some of the day's developments. a temporary pause on the horizon. us president joe biden says apartied israel is ready to hold the genocidal war on gaza for the holy month of ramadan. as gazas seizfire talks continue.

british founded charity oxfam says israel is ignoring the international court of justices's provision on starvation in gaza. meanwhile, more cross-border strikes between israel and hezbollah, as the lebanese resistance movement targets an israeli military base with a barrage of retaliatory rockets. also, the palestinian ambassador to the uk a future palestinian government that will include all palestinian factions. and the centrality of the anti-war movement in britain ending the israeli occupation of palestinian territories, his words in less than 5ive months, partite israel has killed some 30,00 palestinians and wounded more than 70,000 others. most of those murdered women and children. time now to introduce our panel in the studio, theater director and writer jonathan chatwick, alongside journalist and author fran huws joining us. from the north

of ireland via skype. gentlemen, thank you both for being here. i'll start with you uh, jonathan, uh, genocide case and apartide case against israel at the international court of just justice, filed only a month apart. um, how isolated are israel and its staunchest allies, backers, like the us, the uk, and germany. increasingly, i would say, i think it represents a real escalation. their isolation in the world, um, you don't mean isolated from each other presumably, because that's also a part of the chemistry that will happen, as things start to go badly for israel and and the americans, they will start to try to depart company, and that will that that's inevitable, you've seen that in us behavior in the past in other other places, but i would say yeah, i think it's um, i think it's a part of the isolation process and i think it's - think it's um only coming

just so late, so late to save lives in in palestine, i don't think it's going to mean that the israelis are going to change course, in fact the isolation of these entities may intensify the feelings within them of having to pursue the course that they're pursuing in terms of trying to fight their way out or of genocide their way out of the situation, so i don't. think i i think it's both you know you can cheer the international um court of justice and certainly bringing a case about occupation is absolutely right isn't it? that is the problem and actually for it to be revealed to be the problem which you can so of easily ignore um that that is uh is is really really important to get that actually out in the open and the tens of submissions that were given at the icj and legality or

illegality of the israeli occupation of palestinian territory, some would say they were so good, they had to become lectures at the universities for for students. um for the same question to you, guess i want to rephrase it and ask you what you think is the significance um of the fact that there have been two such cases, one genocide brought forth by south africa and the other one on occupation or apartite against israel at the icj "i think it's the first time in the history of the israeli state that they have actually been brought to the international court of justice and are being held accountable for their crimes against humanity, for the continued illegal occupation of the west bank, the continued expansionist settlement policies and and i think america and the uk and the eu have all been exposed as being fully complicit in not only the birth of israel in. 1940, but uh

with american help in 1967, they started and they won the sixth day war, which led to the illegal occupation of the west bank and gaza, so i think... levels uh, we are seeing a turning point in history, in international relations and in the international perception the global public of what israel really is, which is racist apart type expansionist state. israel is one of the only countries in the world to refuse to defend its borders, so far from finishing its own slot on gaza and the west bank, if continues to be held unaccountable, it will continue to expand into uh other nations to include syria and lebanon and egypt, so it's important going forward to people see what is really

happening on the ground through social media, and in real time we are watching the genocidal carpet bombing and now the starvation of 2.4 million people, and that might be ending albia temporarily, in the most positive sign that a cease fire is on the cards in the gaza genocide, us president joe biden has indicated deal could be reached and a truce in place within a week. biden made the comments on an american talk show. let's listen in. well, i hope by the beginning of the weekend, i mean the end of the weekend. "at least my my my national security advisor tells me that we're close, we're close, it's not done yet, and my hope is by next monday we'll have a cease fire. so jonathan, um, you heard what the american president had to say, positive news perhaps, but uh, this is a man who has earned the

nickname genocide joe, and and he's, he made that come and while eating that ice cream, this is a man that who could have stopped. all of this much earlier and saved thousands of lives, so what's the question? what do you think? mean, um, this is, this is the american dream, isn't it? mean, what he's trying to do is just spin for his domestic audience, what he would like to appear is slightly less genocide, joe, and more kind of, you know, i'm going to honor ramadan and i'm going to do good things for the palestinian people and try to dress up. the palestinian authority in some revitalized clothes in order to try to put it in as a kind of client subbalton um manager for the americans, this is this is america dreaming and um the israelis uh have already at

earlier stage in this whole process since these negotiations started, i mean we can't forget this has been going on for some time, this this move towards the ceasefire that that hamas and... the other parties have engaged in qatar and egypt, yeah, and we we know that a certain point hamas presented a um, a really rather extraordinary detailed um pathway towards a proper and and complete cease fire, and the israelis just kind of threw it in the bin, so they were they weren't playing ball, and neither of the israelis playing ball with the americans, so they seem to be speaking different in different worlds and indeed they may well be in different world. will there we have - he's in ice cream parlor, absolutely and and for the the ceasefire being mentioned, as i mentioned earlier also is is only temporary, there seems to be no permanent solution thus far, at least as far as now is concerned,

yes, and in order to uh end the violence that we're witnessing, all we need is for america and joe biden to stop uh sending money uh arms, and giving uh political cover to the zianist apart regime. the whole idea of this cease fire really comes down to one thing and that is the internal pressure that netanyahu is under from the uh relatives of the people that are held prisoner uh in gaza by the resistance groups. these people uh are on the streets, tens of thousands of them, demanding early election, demanding uh that yaho... uh resigns or steps down from government and what they want is the release of the hostages, so everything we're witnessing and everything we're hearing, including america going from vedoing, even the word cease fire in un resolutions to accepting it is purely

to allow some form of negotiated settlement to allow the release of the israelis, many of the members of the idf that are held in gaza, they want them out and then i imagine that the massacre of rafa would continue a peace as soon as those people are released? that is of course a bleek picture. um for just a quick reminder uh to our viewers, you're watching gaza under attack, a deep dive into the news surrounding the ongoing us lead israeli genocidal war on gaza, the blockaded coastal enclave, a technocratic government is being formed in palestine that will govern all palestinian territories once the imminent ceasefire tex effect. speaking a press conference earlier this week, hosem zumlad, the head of the palestinian mission to the uk. um said that egypt and qatar are involved in the negotiations to ensure all factions,

including hamas, are part of the new technocratic government. have listen, this government is offered by the state of palestine, by way of uniting our people and our geography, and providing for our immense unprecedented needs, but that government will not be able to do so without creating an enabling environment for that government, that government cannot cannot be formed or functioning if a person like happen to be the finance minister of israel keeps deciding should we be receiving our own money or not our money, our taxes, that government cannot function, should we still have all the cribbling checkpoints and walls that has th the... our economy and shrinked our economic base, that government cannot function if we

still have no control over our resources, natural resources, land and what have you, that government will not be able to function if we do not have control of our borders, so we create our own and conduct our own international trade agreements like any other government, of course the government will have to livy, will have to create its own revenue base and that those are the revenue bases. international help will go in the form of programs, programs that will help in the reconstruction, what have you, but our budget has to come from our revenues, so it is crucial, it is absolutely crucial that we make sure that the new government is enabled, and this is the discussion, this is the conversation we are having with our regional and international partners and we are presenting all these partners with clear, clear plan and way forward of how new government can f and can deliver. well, dr. zumlet also defended the pro-palestinian

processions in london saying these protests are not anti-semitic. they're peaceful events, incorporating people from different faiths and walks of life. people are focusing on the demos because they see it's a it's a physical act of of of solidarity and it's massive, so it's it's noted. but it's not just the demos, it's not just. there are civic acts everywhere in the uk, there are thousands of letters being sent to mps, there is unprecedented mobilization by the british people, and it is the british people by the way, because people would like to frame it in a certain manner, those are islamist, those are far left this, those are the british people, i have been to these demos, most of them, i spoke there, and i walked, i marched along them, and what i've seen was so inspiring, so hum. being so touching, so moving, families, babies on strollers, it's

almost like a sense of solidarity and support, but also it has festive mood of celebrating their own humanity, but it goes beyond marches and demonstrations, only last week 8000 britains, 8000 loved the parliament for immediate fire, 8ous, these are high numbers. and big numbers, this is a phenomena, this is movement, this is very serious and real, and i think this is different this time, it's sustainable, i believe it will stay after reaching as f, people want to go all the way, therefore we must not misread what is happening, because people are people and the british people are renowned for their activism, the anti-apartide movement eminated from london, how

and what happened since then and the british mandate, it could not be more relevant that this anti-occupation, colonization movement eminates also from london and from the uk and we need to see it in that manner and i think it will grow, maybe not in numbers, because we have the numbers, you're talking. about mass movement, but it it will grow in effect, and impact, and diversification, and influence and getting more pressure on the political decision making process. hosam zumla, the head of the palestinian mission, the palestine mission to the uk, speaking there. as the political discussions continue,

palestinians in gaza are suffering from rising food prices and bread shortages with the humanitarians. situation in the strip worsening, throngs of people crowded around a bakery hoping for few pizzas to feed their families. dozens of women have been waiting for hours a bakery for a bundle of a of bread to take home to their families. one displaced goson shares her story. there's no flower, no gas, no wood for burning. send my daughter in the morning to stand in the queue at the bakery to get a bundle of... bread, sometimes she comes home without anything, so the children don't have bread. we can't even secure flour for bread. lumber is so expensive, everything is so pricey, and we don't have the money for it. we have few more minutes to go. let's continue the conversation with my guests, jonathan, chadwick and fra huyus and and fra, if i could come back to you, um, we heard what the

uh palestinian ambassador had to say, speaking of a technocratic government. what is a technocratic government? "and is that really what palestinians need? well, from what i can see, a technocratic government is one that is not necessarily elected, so you don't stand for government, you don't stand for to be voted in by the popular vote, what happens is that people can be put in positions in ministries such as economist could become the finance minister, so it is a way of a alone assume." a coalition government of hamas and others to come together in order to form a government that suits the different parties involved uh and that collectively uh they can work together uh until there are uh full elections uh i don't know who's proposed us and i don't know

who's behind us but i have to question it because it could be seen as a way to harness hamass. into the political process, we're already a political party, they are the elected representatives of the palestinian people in gaza as of 2006, 2007. um, i think this could be a trulion horse that is used in order to allow the pa to assume full control of all palestinian affairs in both the west bank and in gaza and until we see the full kind of schematics of what is being proposed. "i think we should uh withhold our opinion until we know exactly what's happening, until we know exactly. yes, uh, and and jonathan, as we heard earlier, this might be a way to harness hamass, as fra put it, but given their deep differences in terms of, for example, the way they their attitudes towards a party of israel, would the to even be able

to work together? i don't doubt that they'd be able to work together, but um, i don't think that it could..." possibly, i mean, it's great being sharing the space with fra hues and i love his voice, i love his values and i have a great affection for northern ireland, and um, and i, i, i know that there's a a complicity between the struggle the irish people and the palestinian people, and uh, i think, you know, i sort of want to honor that, i, i, i don't know quite what he meant by harnessing hamas, i think what he meant was that they probably wouldn't be able to do that. by describing it in that way, i don't think they're going to harness hamas, hamas are much more powerful and political military institution than the the palestinian authority, the palestinian authority, um, my admiration for the people that are involved in it go, is is is untempered by the fact that i can also say that they're involved in

in in a in a dumb game, it's a fake game, and they're a fake authority, and i don't think... that they're going to be any more effective than any of the other client subordinate groups that the americans have tried to trick up and try to persist their post-colonial strategies on the oppressed peoples of the world. quite honestly, i think it's, i think it's just um a part of the american dream as i was saying earlier, a part of the american dream. um, perhaps we can come back to this a little later, but i want to talk about uh what the palestinian ambassador had to say, which was the... pro-palestine processions, the marches and rallies that we've seen happen for more than four months here in the uk. he called the it the the uk or london, the epicenter of international activism. for palestinian liberation um and yet at the same time you hear comments from government officials uh recently uh mp lee anderson uh saying um what

um people have called islamophobic against the mayor of london saddiq khan um which people say is symptomatic of the deep islamophobia inside the political party itself um what do you what do you make of of that the the divide between how the palestinian ambassador things of these processions and and would the government hear things of these people? yeah, i put the epicenter of resistance to the oppression of the palestinian people close to the red sea personally. i i think that it's very, very important the movement that's happening here, because it it it is a recognition of a of an enormous sense of of togetherness and solidarity between people here that feel very, very strongly about the palestinian people and can see... within the movement for palestine liberation, their own struggle, but um, yeah, the british state is heading in in a in a really disastrous direction, and it's

been doing so ever since the 2001, this is just the war on terror repedaled, and they're trying to play that tune again and again and again and again, trying to make out that the muslim population of this country are in some way contiguous with terrorism, contiguous with migrants, this is... "this is politics of disaster and it's disastrous politics and they're going to end up where um other um speakers of this sort who indulge in exclusionary politics end up in the dustpin of history in the on the issue of history um fra huz um i'd like to get your reaction to the same question uh the way the government here and perhaps the uh political establishment altogether have approached or treated uh the pro-palestine solidarity campaign that's been ongoing of course for decades, but went into overdrive since this genocidal war on gaza started? think what may

be noticed over the last few years, maybe the last decade, how much the israeli lobby and how much the parties uh, both uh you know uh labor fans of israel and the conservative friends of israel and and even we go slightly farther of field when we go to america. you see all the presidential candidates going to the wheeling wall and uh east jerusalem, so i think what we have is a coalecence of british politics uh with uh zana's foreign policy and zana's policy within uh gaza. we have seen the uh british establishment move to the point where they trade the barn palestinian flags. i was recently a palestinian rally. uh here in the north of ireland and i was one of the speakers and the police were there reporting everything that was being said by the speakers on the day, presumably if

someone had said something that could be seen as being artisemitic or indeed being seen in favor of the resistance groups, we have the right under international law to resist by all means necessary, the illegal occupation their land and their country uh we're we're witnessing the state and the state... establishments uh moving into an anti uh palestine and a pro israeli zone uh and a part of that is this encouragement of islamophobia from tommy robinson and people on the right uh as far as a conservative government uh where they are pushing the narrative where uh people here are muslims in this country could be seen as a fifth column uh working to destabilize uh the nation so and part of that is attempt to, i believe the zanist have for many, many decades tried to change anti-semitism into islamophobia, they are trying to portray the muslims as the

terrorist threat to the world, and that israel and his anistat is not a threat to anybody, but any muslim anywhere in the world is a potential threat to the country that they live in. absolutely, zionism, the ideology of of division, no doubt. um, gentlemen. um, we're fresh out of time, jonathan chadwick and brad hughes, thank you for sharing your thoughts with us and thank you for watching us, catch your earlier episodes by visiting pressv.ir. until we meet again, continue to keep palestine in your hearts. goodbye.

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"the economy in israel was very bad before the events of october and i don't see a way back, i think the economy is destroyed beyond recognition. i think the main problem." the battlefield will be military.

you press the headlines, palestine's hamas says the us and israely regime will not gain through politics, what they fail to gain through war. the us is really genocidal war in gaza claims alive. more women and children with death total nearing 30,000 and iran's stresses the importance of strong voter turnout in friday's elections.