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tv   Gaza Under Attack 89  PRESSTV  March 2, 2024 12:02am-12:31am IRST

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over 100 thous people have been killed or wounded in gaza since october last year. that's about one in every 20 man, woman and child in the besieg enclave, dead or injured. this is gaza under attack with me, amina taylor. welcome back. the death toll continues to rise after occupation forces killed at least 100 people who were waiting.
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for humanitarian aid in gaza city. doctors report a further 150 were injured in the same attack in the nabulsi area in the west of gaza. in a sign of continuing settlement expansion, the apartite regime has appropriated 650 acres of palestinian land, now designating it a part of male-adamum settlement east of jerusalem alcods. dozens of uk-based journalists have signed an open letter to the egyptian and israeli embassies to allow on-fetted access into gaza and better protection for journalists already working there. in january israel's supreme court rejected a request from international media citing safety concerns. meanwhile, in england voting has opened in the first polls that may well punish both the ruling conservatives and opposition labor parties for their pro-genocide stance as pro-palestine candidates look set to triumph. the us israeli bombing of gaza continues at
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pace. since october last year, 30,00 palestinians have been killed, most of them women and children. so much to get through and helping me to do just that for this edition of the program in the studio with me. a welcome return for charles kelly. charles is author and finance podcaster, host of the wonderful money tips. and joining us via skype from sheffield is holistic transformational life coach uzbanak. welcome back to both of you. uzma, i want to start with you here because i think it's so heartbreaking to see the suffering that's been heaped on the palestinians inside gaza already. and we know whatever happens, uzma, this trauma will linger, will it not? uh, it most definitely will. thank you so much for having me again. you know, and and most likely for the rest of their lives and into their future generations to very very sadly. um, this is not a trauma. that general terms
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and normal terms when we talk about trauma, this is not something that's just happening a subconscious level and then we have to deal with the emotional triggers that come as a result of it, that's what we normally talk about as well, this is a uh man-made trauma to an unprecedented extent that absolutely can uh should never have taken place, it could have been prevented um and these kids if we're just talking about what's happening right now they have eaten for weeks, they haven't slept in months, they are constantly of petrified for the next bomb to land in their um tents, they're having intense adrenaline rush to the point where they're leading that's leading them to a cardiac rest, and i'm talking about children age five, even younger sometimes having heart attacks, the amount of fear that is running through their little bodies and their minds is unsable, there are children that are telling doctors that they would rather die, than to exist in
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the way that they're existing right now, there are children that have been rescued from under the rubble who no longer speak, they've lost, they're in such a state of shock that they've lost the ability to communicate anymore, you know, and and there are children that are found under the rubble for hours, they just watch their dead siblings lying just right next to them with you, burnt out limbs and and these are children that are malnourished, they've been you know they have been several deaths already that have happened. because of starvation in north gaza, and it's just horrific, the the endless amount of if they survive from bombs, they if they're lucky enough to get out of under the rubble, they're having their l without anesthesia, um, so top of all of that they no longer have any surviving members of the family to comfort them, so it's absolutely devastating situation that is absolutely going to live with them for very, very long time, and there'll be lot of work that needs to be done to... help them to support them to come out
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of what they are um going through right now, devastating picture, yet harshly realistic one you pose, usma, but charles, i saw you nodding there. she described some of the realities on the ground, which means a cease fire is more urgent, more necessary than ever. are you optimistic? president joe biden said we might have had one by monday. uh, monday is approaching. yes, i saw that interview is eating ice cream, it looks like, it wasn't the right way to to come across, but i don't know, i mean when they talk to either sides, they don't seem ready for for a cease fire yet, so personally i'm not that opt. mystic, but you never they can do these late last minute talks and and get something, but it's definitely needed. i mean, as as usma said, it's it's it's more than just a trauma, it's like humanitarian crisis and while politicians are talking, people are dying. they are indeed. now, uzma, i, i, i know your your line of specialism here is for
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the body, the spirit, the soul, but outside of that, um, just your thoughts on there being calls for a cultural and maybe a... sporting boycott in the same vein that was weakness with south africa during its apathite era, do you think that might have an impact if people perhaps made israel into that paraya state, that paraya entity? i really do, i'm very hopeful, even even to the question you posed to your guest about cease fire, i if there's no hope what is that, you know where i lack words now to describe what's going on and how how even verbalize what's going on, but we have to have faith, we have to have hope in what's going on. i really do think that we've entered into the, maybe this is a bit too optimistic, but that's the way i like to think about things, that we've entered into the phase of the beginning of the end of this oppression, it's
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gone on far too long, it will still take a long, long time and nothing will absolutely nothing will happen overnight, um, but the credibility that's been lost over this genocide will never ever be restored. way that it was before and that get charles uh, we like to get your financial hat on there, the economist in you, and we know that all of these incursions have a cost, i'm speaking more for the uk, the us that's pumped billions into the situation in in the middle east, and of course israel itself that's lost tourism, people are out of work, people are afraid to go back to some of those settlement areas, uh, your analysis of that section? no, i agree with you, the tourism is is down, it it plays a fairly large part of the their gdp, but but the the cost of war is is enormous. i mean, one of the main costs is the debt that's that's that's rising, wars are usually financed by debt. uh, america
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already has national debt of something like 30 trillion plus. um, uk is approaching three trillion. people think, what is a trillion? it's a million, million. you if you if they if you paid back somebody a trillion a million a year it would take a million years to to pay that back and and it's just going up and up and up the only people seem to benefit are you arms manufacturers uh companies involved in in manufacturing for the war and it people do get rich during the the war but it's not ordinary tax payers like us who who get rich we end up paying for it indeed now in some more sobering news i mentioned the figures at the top of the owl but the... and high commissioner for human rights has called for an end to israel's offensive in gaza, highlighting that over hundred thousands have already been killed or wounded since the start of the war five months ago, about one in every 20 children, women and men are now dead or wounded, at
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least 17, children or orphaned or separated from their families, this according to volk turk, who told a session of the human rights council justice in geneva. let's listen. "there appear to be no bounds to, no words to capture the horrors that are unfolding before our eyes in gaza. since early october, over 10000 people have been killed or wounded, let me repeat that, about one in every 20 children, women and men are now dead or wounded. at least 17 children are off. or separated from their families, while many more will carry the scars of physical and and emotional trauma lifelong. the war in gaza must end, clear violations of international human rights and humanitarian laws, including war crimes and possibly other crimes under
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international law have been committed. almost all are drinking, salty and contaminated water. healthcare across the territory is barely functioning. just imagine what this means for the wounded and for people suffering infectious disease outbreaks. in northern gaza, where the operational space for humanitarian work is now almost zero. many are already believed to be starving. uzma, the un rights chief, said just as to almost echo your thoughts there earlier, where he says, he's got no words here, and then went to list aliton of of uh crimes and and manipulations and so on. but what are your thoughts when you hear the un rights chief almost sounding as if he doesn't have the answers? to these very difficult questions that have been posed by this genocide? it's truly heartbreaking. um, you
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know, i've been asking this question from the beginning, why were these laws created, who has the authority to enforce them, how can this carry on and and nothing happen? um, and i just think that the way israel have been given the go ahead from the rest of the world, um, especially the western world. "there is other country in the world that would get away with it in the way that they have, so i think it's just one this this country specifically um that makes everyone feel so hopeless and helpless in this situation, but again coming back to my optimistic state of being i really would like to think that you know we've come to this this extent that you know everybody's lost for words, what next, like how far can it go, i think the people power is is so immense and everybody is involved in one way or another. "this will have to come to an end, but it is very horrible situation to see the top of the
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top, the like you now, the the highest of the high people don't have words anymore, they don't know what to do or what to say, it's a very, very terrible situation, and of course charles, you're a man who is very attuned to your statistics and some of the statistics that were wielded out there are almost beyond comprehension, how how are you rationalizing what you're seeing in these difference?" stats that are being thrown at you? yeah, it's it's unbelievable when when you think they passed the 30,000 mark of dead people, um, and it's a statistic to us, but to them these are these are 30,000 uh lives lost, families affected, there was there was a guy saying he lost 102 relatives, and there were as this this was announced there were apparently israelis were firing on people quewing for food and aid in the early hours of... this morning, so as as usma said, where where does it all end? it's got to end with talks and america needs to step in and and
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get this sorted out, i think they they're the most influential country on on israel, um, it's got to end soon. now we know that there is current case about the occupation territories and the legitimacy there of at the icj, israel has already ignored that one month um deadline for them to come back and court about how they are trying to prevent uh any kind of humanitarian further disasters taking place inside gaza, have we lost faith in those institutions, because if they're not holding clear violations to account, what happens after that? yeah, i think there is some loss of faith in those institutions, because these judgments, there's no enforcement of them, there's nobody uh enforcing these judgments, so i i think there is a bit of losing faith in in these things, but at least it highlights that the problem, it it brings it to the the attention of the
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media and international countries that some at least one organization is is trying to stop it. uzma, we have so many different ideas about you, talking about the optimising here or where to go, when someone comes to you and say they're experiencing fatigue from just watching these images and experiencing this a day-to-day basis, what is your feedback? as a therapist on this, it's going to be controversial actually, and um, it goes completely against what i stand for, generally speaking as a as an expert in somebody who likes to see people regulated and support them, come out of their trauma and live a happy content life. i think that the the kind of world that we're living in right now, i think we should be disturbed, i think we should be having sleepless nights, i think we should... be thinking about what's going on and uh, you know, if we are going about our daily life like nothing has
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happened, that is a bigger problem to me. having said that, i'm not advocating for people to burn themselves out, i'm not somebody who's who's going to push for that to happen, but i do think that there should be level of unease and discomfort in your life right now, because what's happening is not normal, and it should not be perceived as normal, and it should not be seen as something, just happening in another part of. world because this affects every single one of us and it it should shake the core of who we are and what we've believed in so far and that's where the hope comes in right because we're saying that we've lost hope in these uh big organizations. like the un and and the icj and all of those, where did they come from? they came from a world war 2, which is everything had been lost, the way it been conducted, they understood that that's not how we wanted things to see things continue, this is going to yet bring another layer of, we never want to see this happen, so hopefully it's going to wake people up, but if we numb ourselves and if we don't have the
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emotions and if we don't look at what's happening and if we are don't bear with us, we're basically not going to quit people in the future to make. the changes that are necessary, the youth are going to be so disconnected from what's happening, so i think it's important and very necessary to feel the pain and we're not even feeling the fraction, we're just watching, that's all we're doing, if we start to understand what they are going through is unfathemable, what's going to take for them to come out, i'm sure we will, we will survive it, a small price to pay, but one we must pay nonetheless, uzma, well just a reminder here that this is gaza under attack, we take a deep dive into some of the talking points, so... surrounding the ongoing us-israely genocidal war on gaza, the blockaded coastal enclave, now the head of the palestine mission to the uk, dr. hussam zomlot told the press in london this week that the state of palestine has put forward a comprehensive plan for sease fire and the way forward, but this cannot be achieved if israel doesn't
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allow an enabling environment. this government is offered by the state of palestine. by way of uniting our people and our geography and providing for our immense unprecedented needs, but that government will not be able to do so without creating an enabling environment for that government. that government cannot cannot be formed or functioning if a person like smart who happen to be the finance minister of israel keeps deciding should we be? receiving our own money or not, our our money, our taxes, that government cannot function, should we still have all the cribbling checkpoints and walls that has turned apart our economy and shrenked our economic base, that government cannot function if we still have no control over our resources, natural resources, land
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and what have you, that government will not be able to function if we do not have control of our borders, so we create - own and conduct our own international trade agreements like any other government. of course the government will have to livy will have to create its own revenue base and that those are the revenue bases. international help will go in the form of programs, programs that will help in the reconstruction, what have you, but our budget has to come from our revenues, so it is crucial, it is absolutely crucial that we make sure that the new government is enabled and this this is the discussion, this is the conversation we are having with our regional and international partners and we are presenting all these partners with clear, clear plan and way forward of how new government can function and can deliver. voting has kicked off in the rochedale bielection in england, it's the first major test of voters intentions since the start of
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the us israeli genocide on the people of gaza. pro palestine candidate george galloway is tipped to win by the bookmakers, but ahead the count, we spoke with him and asked what would be his first task if elected. the first thing i'm going to do is on wednesday, prime minister's questions, i'm going to tell the prime minister that i have arrived with a fresh mandate, the only member of the house to do so, with a fresh mandate to stop the slaughter in gaza, a cease fire is necessary, but not sufficient, pause, humanitarian pause, a simple cease fire is not enough, we need an end to the occupation, we need the total withdrawal of the siege of gaza, and we need recognition of the palestinian right to self-determination, enshrined in international law, enshrined in security council resolutions, enshrined in the oslo
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agreement, all ignored, and the oslo agreement is now dead and buried, it's been ignored. for so long, 700 thousand illegal settlers are now living on the parts of palestine that were supposed to be the palestinian state, so 30 years since the oslo agreement, it's time to raise the flag of one state, call it the holy land in which jews, muslims and christians live as equal citizens before the law. these are the kind of arguments i'll be making in parliament. george galloway there, so we have few more minutes to go, let's continue the conversation with my guest charles kelly and usb nag, and charles there we saw the um, this... by election in rochedale, it's a real litmous test to see how politicians, how voters, how prospective voters are responding to the issue of palestine and gaza and the
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way politicians have dealt with this, how do you see this playing out? it's very interesting um how it's worked out for george, mean george is is a wiley old experienced campaigner, he's he's been an mp before he was labor mp in scotland uh so he he knows what he's doing, but this this is all... like this is falling in his lap because of labor's withdrawal of support for for their candidate, although it still appears as a labor candidate on the ballot, so maybe some people would just vote labor, but he he's isn't that problematic though the fact that for a man who's been essentially disavowed by his own party, he's still on the ballot because it was too late to take him off, but almost by some kind of conditioning, people will still tick the box, because that's how politics sometimes works here, yeah, guess people go into the box. and just i'll tick labor uh, usually vote labor, so it's very close, george is is is the favorite, but only by narrow margin, um, but it could could cause a big upset if he if he
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wins, whether he'll stay in power for very long, if there's a general election towards the end of the year, he could have very short term, why do you say that? well, because labor could come back and and win in the general election, in by-elections, uh, sitting parties can often lose a by-election more or less as a pro protest vote. but in the general election where there's a higher turn out, more people are out on the streets, in the general election, um, usually the the seat can go back to the previous party, it could happen, it, i'm not saying it would happen, but george will certainly shake things up if he gets into parliament, um, i'm sure he'll have few words to say to to the government, i can almost see richie sunak, and sir stam going, oh no, not him, we thought we'd escaped him, now i got rid of him now and he's back, he's like he won't go away. uh uzma, you know, we we've talked here about politicians with a pro- palestine agenda doing quite well so far in some of
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this, but what do you make of the people power that's brought them to where they are right now, because we've been out on our streets in the tens of thousands here, in the millions, some would say, yeah, i mean it is, it's our only hope, it's the only reason that i feel any optimism that i do, rotstill, especially what you're just discussing. right right now has very large asian community, muslim community um who are hugely disappointed in uh the way that you know things have turned out with labor and um i think that it's a refreshing change it's uh george galloway is one of my favorite people i can listen to him for hours he's um somebody who's unapologetic about his views um and this is is something that's happening right now and it needs to be dealt with right now so we need somebody who has the strength to be able to relay a message. uh and and i was smiling just that when you came to me because you're absolutely right, because both the you know the the government right now and the opposition are going to be uh hitting their foreheads when they see george galloway
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appear because he's somebody who has lot of strength in what he says, he goes with uh his numbers, he he has his facts and figures um he he's a very strong person and i think it's important to uh to have people like that to you know who can be our voice and who can speak what we want to say because we don't have access to uh the powers that be, i myself have been a supporter of labor for very, very long time and i can't remember voting any of the any of the party, but i you know it will never happen again, mean that that's how much people feel so such a disappointment that they have completely failed us on the views that we hold as constituents, so i think it's really important to have more voices like this, but i'm certainly very happy that things are evolving in the way that they are, it's very disappointing also, to see k stammer uh and the way that he has dealt with this whole thing and the whole suspensions and everything else um and the very reason that they took jeremy corbin out is also the very
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reason that his own members within his own party uh you know it's just created such a big mess and i i do think that uh this will change um bring up a refreshing change uh inshallah i do see it um being better indeed thank you so much charles kelly and urve great words to leave it there and thank you so much. for sharing your thoughts with us and for you for watching catch our earlier episodes by visiting pressv.ir until we meet again, continue to keep palestine in your hearts.
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the subject of this week's episode of iran teic is behind this 60 centimeter thick concrete wall inside the neutron imaging laboratory at the atomic energy organization of iran, very close to the core of the reactor. it's a kind of imaging system known as neutron radiography that has some very specific use case scenarios where x-ray imaging just doesn't cut it. tune into this week's episode to see how neutron radiography works. this is my land and my country. it is not only the 1948 or 1967 borders from the sea to the river. i am not ready to let go of a
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centimeter. israel is here like an. for by the support of the europe, by the support of the united states, that's why they separate, the land, well i was at the babel shams protest last week and - myself had a my head banged against a bus by soldier. illegally on illegal stolen land and they are arresting us, the palestinians. this is historical palestine.
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your headlines on press tv: millions of iranians have cast their ballots to elect members of the country's parliament and the assembly of experts. the number of palestinin lives lost to the israeli onslaught on the gaza strip has topped 30,200 as de bombings continue unabated and the world health organization says almost all the lifelines in gaza have been cut and the health system in the besieg territory is more than its knees.