to avert famon, there must be road access to gaza's north, words from the world food program, after apartite israel turns back a convoy trying to get food into gaza. hello everyone and welcome back to gaza under attack. i'm said puraza. u.s. israeli bombs continue to rain down on palestinians in gaza as talks for a cease fire grind out in cairo, egypt. hamas has presented its proposal for a cease fire agreement to... mediators, the

israely regime has not sent any negotiators to the talks. what will their response be? lebanon's hezbollah has launched heavy rocket barrages at an israeli kibutsum in the north of the 1948 occupied territories, in response to an air rate that killed three civilians in southern lebanon. the association of southeast asian nations, asian have called for immediate and durable humanitarian sease fire in the besieg territory as the holy month of ramadan approach. and apartied israel's war cabinet minister benny gance in london after spending two days meeting power brokers in washington. is this the beginning of the end for benjamin netanyahu? in only five months, the us europe backed israeli genocidal campaign in gaza has killed more than 30,00 palestinians and wounded over 72,00 others. with us on this edition of the program, british palestinian student and activist tarek othman. and rick sterling,

veteran journalist working with the la progressive, anti-war, and al-meyor deen, to name just few. rick joins us via skype from the bay area in california, usa. thank you both for being here. i'll start with you, rick. biden gave the impression a cease fire was as good as done and dusted, yet here we are. what do you think are the stumbling blocks to a cessation of violence at the moment? well, the main stone. block is is the united states refusal to demand that israel uh stop its genocide, there have been three united nations security council resolutions that the united states alone has has vetoed, um, the latest manipulation and trick is for the us to say that hamas is responsible, but in truth, it's it's the us and and the israeli government. "what do you make of the

us government's claim of putting pressure on israel to agree to a truth, i'll be a temporary and captive swap. well, i think they definitely want fake leaf, and joe biden and joe biden's team is in, they realize they're in big trouble, because the majority of the population in the us and and even more so in the democratic party are are are. are supporting a cease fire, so they're out a limb, but they're so beholden to azinis forces in the united states, that they have to do this dance where they pretend to be calling and pushing for a cease fire and apporing the the slaughter going on there, but at the same time they want to give israel more time to try to achieve their goal, which is not achievable, exactly and of course, um,

they continue to veto un security council resolutions, calling for immediate ceasefire, not to mention the continuing flow of american weapons and money uh to israel. tarek, let me come to you for the next one, um, how does all of this make you feel that you know, more than five months on, 152 days on 30,000? more than 30,000 people killed, more than 72,00 people wounded, and yet not an immediate, permanent cease fire. i don't know you know what, what words there i left to describe um the situation in gaza right now and situation in palestine, um, every combination of of condemnation and visual imagery and visual description has been used, um, every, you know, every poet has used every last, description they can think of,

and i'm not going to better describe that, we as all palestinians, people are seeing get, see a genocide and fold with. with you with our own eyes on camera, on instagram, on social media, whilst our political class are 100% backing it, we've completely been lost for wet, there's nothing that can describe it um better, what kind of action will you take, because we're an election year um not just here in the uk but in the states and more than 50 other countries, um when you see this dithering on the part of the... political class here as you put it, be at the conservatives or labor, um, someone as young as you and and the likes of you out there, how how will you get back at these people, at these people in power who can stop a genocide but won't but won't or haveen, so far. um, well, very simply, i would refuse to vote for

any of these supposed representative parties, um, you know, many people make the comment that if i was to not vote for k. farm or labor that would make a conservative leadership more likely. the very simple fact is that if we're going to profess to be in a democracy, then i have every right to have a party that represents me. if if we are in a profess democracy, why i being forced in practically to vote for people who we all know don't represent me and have no intention of representing me and the vast majority of the british public, which as i'm sure you understand 67%, i believe, 66. 66% um uh supporter immediate cease fire and yet like you are say there's a complete you know um undemocratic and extremist attitude towards this that has justified as we speak the genocide of my people and i'm not going to

you know vote or put my support behind anyone yeah that hasn't done everything in their power possible to to to stop that and the rise in the number of independent candidates and minor parties is probably going to put an end to that political deopoly in in west well i hope so uh that is the hope rick we've passed 150 days as i mentioned earlier of this relentless bombardment what is your assessment of where things stand? well in 1967 uh the us launched a surprise attack its um arab neighbors and the in six days they were to decimate the uh the air forces of those neighbors and and win that war. in contrast, we've got 150 days or five full months of israeli slaughter, massacre and killing, and they are nowhere near achieving

their goals. the palestinian resistance has withstood this onslot, the slaughter, and and i think the israeli government is desperate because they... they can see that their their goal of winning a quick victory is is not being achieved, they can see that the world is increasingly turning against them even the west, so that the us is is you know almost alone, they're not entirely alone, germany and the uk and france are are still supporting them, but um less and less so, so uh the pressure is building and um and netnyahu is... is desperate and in a way the us is desperate to see this uh uh come to an end, sure is desperate, there's of course divisions inside the israeli uh so-called war cabinet, we'll talk about that in a little uh later in the in the program, but meantime the

um us, qatar and egypt have been attempting to hammer out sease fire agreement, at least on the look of it, for number of weeks with seemingly little progress, despite early optimism, earlier this week, the egyptian foreign minister samy shukri met his dutch counterpart with talks where the fate of the negotiations was outline. the negotiations are sensitive, i can't say there is optimism or pessimism, but we haven't reached yet point at which we can achieve seasfire, but it is important that everyone understands the importance of achieving this and to take responsibility for the decisions to be taken in this regard. "there must be a clear political will that goes along with this, and some countries have abilities like the united states of america, and there is development there in the remarks that were said by the american vice president last night when she spoke about the importance of immediate cease fire. rick, let me come to you for this one

as well, the israelis have not bothered to send any negotiators to these talks going on in cairo, does this tell you just how little regard they have?" " for the whole process, well it's it's an indicator and it's going to be interesting to see what they report back to the international court of justice because they're coming up on the deadline where they have to report um meanwhile the uh their overlords in washington um are in deep trouble uh just as in in in british politics we're seeing up peoples with george galloway winning a landslide victory uh seven days ago we had a democratic party primary race in michigan which is very key state in the united states electoral election process and and over 100 thousand registered democrats voted no uncommitted, so this is a sign,

ideologically, biden is a zionist, he's dependent on zionist funds and yet most of the party is um is uh is not feeling that way and is increasingly wondering what the heck is going on, so it's the same thing as as your guest from from britain uh was saying with iscreasingly a contradiction between democracy and what we're seeing in reality, does those um do those electoral developments in the in the states perhaps explain the biten administration's eagerness to claim victory in some kind of a temporary truth? i think they would be very happy to to have that happen, but it's a bit of smoke. because they're talking about just like you say, a temporary truth, and whereas other people are

saying that we need to have a cease fire, cease fire that that stops it once and for all. correct, and um, egypt, one of the parties to these ongoing negotiations, could they do more and and could the arab block overall do more to bring an end to this? um, i think there's a lot they can do to leave the suffering that. that guys are are are going through at the moment, um, the borders are still not as open as they should be, um, there's still not enough aid getting through, um, and i don't want to say that's the fault of egypt and so much as it's the fault of the egyptian leadership, which is an important distinction to make, um, and i don't, i think we can all agree that egyptian leadership, just as much of the arab leadership is not at all representative of the of the... population of the people in in in these countries, um, but we are, but what we are

definitely seeing is very lackloster response. i think all of us, all of us in, all of us arab palestinians are utterly disappointed in what has been, little more than words and messages, um, and a couple um uh, nothing more than so virtual signaling sort of. um uh technical achievements of dropping some limited amounts of aid yeah when we're talking about the mastervation of two million people um right at their border so of course there's more they can do so there they could have done over the past not just since 7th of october but for the past 50 years or so that they've sidly oh well maybe not completely idally but for the the current yeah the current regime has sat idely by as they've seen their brothers across the border

under siege um for decades now and i can't say i'm um surprised but i'm definitely disappointed and yet some of the normalized ties jordan um i've nominalized ties with with israel uae yeah yeah and they've used that of course as an excuse all right uh let's let me cross over to uh california again uh rick we'll highlight in a little more detail the position of washington in these talks um later in the program uh once again, but highlight for me the impact it is having on the presidential race again um especially uh for joe biden's campaign and and the likelihood so it seems of donald trump going ahead to head with joe biden and what that would mean for the palestinians. "well, unfortunately we're the palestinians are between rock and a hard place there,

because donald trump, um, while he's very different than joe biden on ukraine and russia, he of course is horrible on on the israeli-palestinian conflict, and he's as beholden as biden is to zionist and pro israel forces in the united states, so uh, we're looking a a pretty grim picture there. um, i think, i mean, really, the hope has to be in the united states that we can see third parties and alternative parties such as george galloway's tremendous victory, the other. day um appearing and and offering an alternative because right now for many many decades in the united states there's been no difference in foreign policy between the republicans and the democrats, they may differ and be it be at odds and war on domestic issues, but when it comes to foreign policy, it's one foreign policy and one of um

that's not pretty and that's a domination and supporting um in the middle east support israel um and so that's our reality, um, things are, i think a breakup point though, yeah, and that's what they say about the big political, the mainstream political parties here too, the conservatives and labor that they are not uh different in terms of their approach to the middle east and to the israel palestine issue, but let me take moment to um let our viewers know - they have just joined us, this is gaza under attack, a deep dive into the news surrounding the ongoing us led, israeli genocidal war on gaza, the blockaded coastal enclave, um, you mentioned george gallaway rick, the pro-palestinian politician george galloway has caused a panic in british politics with his landslade win, landslide

win in the by-elections held in rotschdale, greater manchester, which accorded him a mandate to speak about god. in the house of commons of the british parliament. gallaway told us, it's time small parties challenged big ones. a genocide is not a small thing, and the international court of justice has already sent israel for trial uh, having concluded that there were was a plausible case for genocide uh being committed in the gaza strip. that's not a small thing, that doesn't happen every day, but the local politicians here. in the council and the national politicians across the consensus of the front benches want to pretend that it isn't happening, want to disguise that they are deeply involved in it, they're giving cover to it and even given military uh collaboration with it, so you know i always put it to the journalists who implicitly criticized me for raising this genocide uh,

if this by-election was taking place in 1940 when hitler was building death camps for the jews, would anyone have criticized me for highlighting it in a by-election campaign? of course, truthful answer is many of them still would have, because much of the british media was highly supportive of the rise of hitler and mussolini. it must spark a rethink, even if not publicly acknowledged, that the people are not with the government, they're not with the opposition. so what does that mean? means we need new opposition, means we need new government, and that's where we come in. we are offering a program, and the independence that we will alig with, are offering a different approach, and suddenly it will become possible uh for real meaningful political change. you know, big parties can

become small. look at passock in greece, for example, uh, or the so-called french socialist party. of mitaron and holland, they are minuscule, now big parties can become small and small parties can become big. the united states are the chief architect of the bombardment of gaza, yet have pivotal role in the negotiations. here are some words of the us state department spokesperson on the byton administration's approach to the talks and why washington remains optimistic, deal can still be done. "israel has to be careful that in achieving tactical victory it doesn't endure a strategic defeat, and it remains our advice to them not to do that. in our view, the obstacles are not surmountable, in our not insurmountable, are not insurmonable, excuse me, um, in our view, should be possible to reach an agreement. we think the

proposal that israel put on the table in consultation with the united states and with cutter and egypt is one that hamas should agree to." and it's one that would alleviate the suffering of the palestinian people and bring about immediate ceasefire for six weeks and so we think that agreement can be reached. we have few more minutes to go, let's continue the conversation with tarthman and rick sterling and tarret. um, let's take each of those sound bites one a time. um, george galloway winning the bielection in rotchdale. you alluded to it earlier on, but could this be a... message national nationally to a bigger audience out the bigger number of voters out there comes the general election this win stumping victory by uh definitely and the message "the message is very clear, the message is very clear for everyone to see that the traditional parties no longer represent us as british people, um,

not just by the way on the issue of gaza, but we've seen the complete, you know, um, indifference of both parties to all sorts of issues of poverty and economy here in the uk, um, and we've seen that the the people in this country are simply fed up, and part of that of course..." we're seeing um george galloway win, but what's also very crucial is that um second place was neither labor nor conservatives, believe it was david italia an independent candidate, so what we're saying is um a complete you know the demise of the traditional party structure here in the uk, specifically in runchdale, but what it could be is a sort of bad domen for these um uh politicians and the the leaders of these parties. if they don't change tact. speaking of changing tact, benny gance, member of the israeli uh cabinet war cabinet is here to

meet uh david cameron, probably the prime minister, and all we've heard from david cameron, saying that israel is an occupying power, that it has a duty under international law, to provide aid, that the situation is dreadful, meaning in the gaza strip, and people were starving to death. "that's all we're getting from the foreign secretary of the uk, no castling of arms license or or anything like that um to the israeli regime, what do you make of that? um, yeah, i think it's it's very representative of what the british government um, of what their policy has been so far, i think it's very reminiscent of of tactic in us and israeli media of um shoot and cry or that's that's..." how the the saying goes of you participate and actively encourage the death of people, yeah, you know, and simultaneously shed tears for those that you've murdered,

um, israel will do it when they pretend like the thousands of dead children are simply, you know, that they when they pretend the that they mourn for those children when they clearly don't, and and we saw the americans air drop aid into the gaza strip, and we have americans and british... uh politicians time and time again saying that enough, too many people have died, but will simultaneously provide weapons to encourage the killing of more people, absolutely. let me put one final question to to rick, and rick, the biten administration, it is argued is is bargaining above anything else for um, a grand bargain rather, that would include palestinian state hoods, security guarantees and recognition of israel by saudi arabia as... palestinian statehood of course firmly opposed by the current prime minister netanyahu, is any of that achievable? uh, well we can just look at

history, because they've been you know talking about one version or or another of the two state solution for you know for 50 years, and where are we? um, beyond the need for a cease fire, which you know is of course the first priority. "we've got a partide in israel uh and we've got the occupation and you now there there has to be some um uh the issue has to be dealt with sooner than later because it's gone on it's festered for all these years and and it's it's come to this uh the united states you know has really shown itself it's not a known as broker um and there some other international forces" need to play play the leading role here. all right, thank you for that. that is all the time we have. my thanks to our guest othman

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your headlines for this hour, dozens more palestinians have fallen victim to the ongoing us-israely genocide in gaza, raising the total death soul from the aggression to nearly 31,000. "the resistance move in hamas emphasizes that israel is hindering all efforts by mediators to finalize a ceasefire agreement in the gaza strip and yamen's anser law leader stresses that the naval operations in the red and the arabian seas will never stop unless the genocide and the siege on gaza come to an end.