hello and welcome to press tv spotlight, i'm marsia hashimi, thanks so much for being with us. well, it is day 155 of this dystopian reality that we are witnessing. the zionist regime continues with this genocide, and now the death toe has risen above 30,800 palestinians in gaza. the united states says it will build a temporary port off of gaza to... help get humanitarian aid to enter the

strip as the majority of the population is at risk of starving to death, but what does it mean for washington to build a port to get food to the palestinians in gaza? and at the same time continue to arm the israeli regime to proceed with the genocide of palestinians. we'll stay with us as we look at that and lot more on this spotlight. i'd like to welcome my guests to the program. amal wahdan, human rights activist out of ramala, and saib shath, author and west asia expert out of belfast, thank you both for being with us, well let's start in ramala and almal, in your perspective, okay, i think i've lost the connection with amal, do you hear me, can you hear me? yeah, yeah, yeah. i can hear you

now, okay, okay, great, so why is the us building this port uh, but at the same time it's continuing to supply the israeli regime? i mean, what does it mean? well, i think this is like a silly shared here by the usa, instead of you know growing going around the bush, why don't they open the borders, open the rafah border, open karm abu salim and bhan border, if they are... are really sincere and if if they are um if they want to solve this incredible humanitarian crisis in gaza which is affecting almost most of the gazan people, over two million people, and they there is another easy way, first seiz fire, see's fire now, they can they push the israelis for it, can they enforce sease fire on the israelis of course if they supply them

with everything they need, they should have the method and the tools to force sess fire on the israelies. okay, si fire is not working, how about the borders, the rafah bor, why is rafah border is closed in front of thousands of trucks who are you know l lined just you know a way meters away from the borders crossing and come abu salem? "the israelis claim that they send assistance to the palestinians through karm abub, the us is as a, powerful, a superpower, they can do the same, there is millions of way that the americans can help the palestinians, but the real thing is that the americans are allied with the israelis, they don't want to solve the problem, actually for them ethnic cleansing, they witnessed it." in 1948, they

actually accelerate, not accelerate, i mean, they helped, the israelies took over palestine in 1948 and they helped with all the massacers that was happening, they the new york times and life magazine, whoever wants to go back in into 1948 massacers can't see, they have documented every massacre that have. in palestine, the new york times was there, and we are, we are using their pictures that documents the massacers, so the americans were were there from day one, they wanted this area as a military base, the 1948 borders was not enough for them, they allowed the 1967 war, and the israeli colonial entity um occupied the whole of palestine and occupied the the syr, the golan heights, the

occupied golan heights and seni, so what is happening in in gaz? now what is happening in the west bank, what is happening in jerusalem in 1948 is all supervised by the us, okay, us is a closed allies, so this is a shared, but it has other, it has other intentions, stay with me, stay with me, let me get s, let me get sb in on this conversation, uh, your take, what amal said, uh, do you agree with her that if the united states wanted to stop this genocide immediately that it could, "and if you agree with her, what is it getting out of this? uh, the united states of america, of course, with one phone call can stop uh the genocide, the united states of america uh have the zinus entities own military bas in the region, so the chief staff is biden here,

he can stop that, but the united states of america is coming with gimmix or as am called the shared, first of all of that floating port ' the the main the main thing with it, apart from that we can witness all the western leaders led by joe biden encouraging the genocide, the in going genocide in gaza, and their aim, the end goal is to ethnically cleanse the people from gaza, and after that they will do the same in the west bank and 1948. the aim of this floating port is to encourage immigration of the starving, displaced. palestinian people, we know there is 90% of the palestinians in gaza are displaced now, they are hungry, they are lacking proper shelters and proper medical facilities, so this is to push them to immigrate to europe or anywhere else when

they start the ships comes into into gaza, why is the united states of america and ziness entity not opening graf crossing or the... karam abu salim or the other areas or the other crossing, it's as we witnessed at the start when aid was coming to the to unra and the palestinian local government in gaza, the desires entity were shooting at the police, not to police the the cues of the people who is handing the aid, so they don't want any authority within gaza, they want to eliminate that, it means a... crossing it from gaza onland going inside, it means have to arrive to an authority to handle it and to distribute it, they if we witness, joe biden denied from the beginning the numbers of deaths in gaza, because he want to digize the

palestinian authority in gaza which is elected in 2006, he want to ignore the mandate of the palestinian people given to this local government in 2006 and being elected. and afterward so he - genocide jo is trying to say this territory now under his control and he gna do with it what is fit so so let let me just jump in here so you're saying that you think that this port is being set up as a way for those palestinians who want to leave to help them leave are you saying that that this is something that the united states is setting up uh basically continuation of the na to get rid of the palestinians, it's exactly not even to people who the starving people, people when they spread pandemics among them, they they are desperate, they want any kind of safety, when we witnessed last night in rafah, the tall

building in rafa building was targeted and lots of people in middle of rafah running and that's supposed to be in a safe area, so there is no safe area. are there is no sub home aid supplies, there is nothing getting in and they blocking or all the the avenues so and they opening one corridor which will take them to cyprus, this is what the americans trying to do, but i i believe myself the palestine resistance will make sure this won't work, the united states of america now and the zianist entity are arming some zianist agents for. and they training them somewhere i heard in sinai and they are preparing them to take control of the aid to distribute the aid which is coming from the sea so that is mean this is the authority, the zinist entity and the americans want to impose in gaza and this is for what left from

gaza then so and the other hand we witness even cnn couple of days ago made a report about that they from aits the netsarem sorry area used to be called netsarem when the zin settlement was in gaza before they were evicted from gaza by the resistance they building a corridor. to split gaza nearly into halves around four mile road to take it from salahad in road to rasheed road to the design entity want to control the security of gaza strip while the americans doing that corridor so in the future they can send any troops in if they can discover any help for the resistance so the whole project of what the united states of america is doing humilating the palestinian by drops and killing them as well, secondly given handing over the the whole territory to the design

entities, helping them any cleansing as much as they can with the palestinian and displacing around the world. well staying with your sap, what do you think can be done, because uh you you just talked about this scenario um and then you talked about the palestinian resistance, but on the other hand, as you said we have these people who have been under so much pressure and and they are starving, although they have shown unbelievable strength and and faith, so in in in your perspective, what is the role then of the palestinian resistance in all of this at this point to be able to prevent it from happening? you see the the the americans uh genocide jo and the zist entity and lots of the elites, ruling elites in europe, look at the palestinian children and women and and people uh are not, they look at them and... as the child gonna be a freedom fighter in the future, so they are legitimate targets to

the des entity, and the they they look, they have to cleanse the palestinian people from there, otherwise those people can mushroom another resistant in the future, that's what they they think, they think already they're nearly gna eliminate the palestine resistance, but they are mistaken, the only the only sore... and they holding the palestina resistance from is the population because the they are targeting the attacks against the people, starving the people, targeting the the civil infrastructure, but the resistance is directing massive blows against them, and they the the design entities, incubation forces in gaza, they they know they are receiving huge blows in the the resistance under the ground, over the ground beside the rubble. in in the destroyed towns are are in control at the minute and they will make sure this project of the

united states of america will fail. your take onside analysis of why the united states wants to open this port? first it wants you know to um fool the whole world, first the palestinians and um the arab world and the majority of the people of the world who are um demonstrating in millions in the streets every every week as we witness them um on the news channels. second, they want footstep. i think this is a way of indirect occupation. when you see when you see that they want to build a port just offshore gazza and a thousand marines are going to be involved in this, it's an indirect occupation, you know that there is geopolitical situation here,

there is an alternative route for the gas, as you um probably know about it, coming from india to the united arab emirates, to the saudi, saudi arabia, then to gaza, to gaza to europe from that it goes to cyprus or it goes to turkey and then to europe to counter the north stream one and north stream two and also to um counter the road and the the built and the road the chinese initiative that going in the different continents so this is a global a global war that is going on and if the us crosses you know the lines, the limits, we might be in front of a regional

war or a global work. now the resistance, i'm sure that the resistance is full aware of what's going on and with the americans scheme, and they will consider any foreign troops on the gaza soul or water is an occupying power, and they will treat it exactly as they do. with the israelis, so there is no chance for biden or the pentagon or any of their allies, that the british are involved in this, the united arab emirates, as ' superpower in the region, you know, they are involved in this, of course, to finance it, that's why they are needed by the us to pay for it, and cybrus is involved, so this is a whole scheme orchestrated by the us in order to make to make a you know footstep

here in the area, they knew that the israelis didn't do their job, five months now, almost six months now, 155 days, the resistance didn't give up, on the contrary, the resistance is inflecting so many casualties among the israelis, the economy is filling falling apart, and the the army itself, the military establishment, the security establishment is falling apart, they are, you know, officers, high ranking off officers are. shining from their post because of what's happening, because they are not satisfied, they are not seeing a goal, an end to this whole war that has been going for five months now, so if israel is failing, the us thinking, thinking that they will succeed in this, although the late you know the the

defeat that they are having in uc the defeat that they faced in afghanistan, the proxy war of 12 years in the arab world and the surrounding region, this all proved that the us could not achieve any of its geopolitical goals in the area, and now the whole game is in the air, whether the americans will hold back or... step back or they will continue with their um aggression against the area and the palestinians and the gazans are in the face of this whole thing, the west bank, the west bank is another another battlefield here, and no one cares what that settlers are doing, no one cares what the israeli army is

doing, and the us comes with the two-state solution, goodbye, two state solution is already dead. 30 years nothing happened with that illusion of palestinian state, so so let me just jump in here amad, let me get sab in on this, so sab says so the whole game is is in the air at this point in time, so so is this the situation is happening in gaza, basically the line now between this transition of this unilateral world and multilateral world that right now gaza is... central into this battle and and the transition, do do you see that as part of it? yes, gaza give the opportunity, but the only global powers who is taken advantage of this is only the regional global power, which is like iran, but in the other hand, the chinese

and the russians, they are not moving forward. to weaken the american position, that's why the united states of america is become vicious and become so intent and defeating the resistance in gaza, because as i agree what with amal, the this zionist project which is an entire domination project for the united states of america and the region is on reverse, the palestinian resists and put this... reverse, i will give it date lebanon from 2005 when they b make them and their settlers run away from gaza at the time was sharon and the same thing the lebanese resistance 2006 directed a massive ablow after the year 2000 when they push them of so the whole project is on reverse but the

united states of america as we seen in the 8th of october when with the whole western leadership came to show up this zin entity and the sattlers as well who fled from the south near gaza and the north near lebanese border to ensure they will be protected and will return to their homes because without them there is no project. this is a tool for the united states of america to hegemanize uh west asia with its oil with this transport throwing humany of west asia, it can control the growth of the china and the existent and as a superpower of china in the future, the chinese is not grasping the chance now an effective manner, nor the the russians, they are two selfish players. "they didn't see the global opportunity in front of them uh to give it a proper kind of analysis and to get

involved more in it, so the palestinian resistance here and the resistance camp within west asia paying heavy price, but there is no global power to grasp the opportunity as i see it. what about that, am, do you feel that the united states uh sees the beginning of the end of the israeli re?" and it is trying to do whatever it can to show up that front uh because of its own interests as saib has said yes of course they don't that's why they are supported the the entity the colonial zenist entity from the beginning the it's like a military base for them you know in front of the eastern powers and in front now of the multi polarism powers that is rising, so yes of course they want to support the israelis and we saw them, we saw the europeans, they wanted or they are

supporting israel to defend itself, defending itself means the destruction, the total destruction of gaza strip, it it does it mean to kill over 31 thous people, in addition to those under the rappel, does it does it? mean to displace one and a half million people, look, gaza is like a battlefield of the second world war, this is can, it cannot be accepted, it cannot be tolerated, i agree that russia and china should play a bigger role here, should play a decisive roll here, and we ask these questions, and we we we raise our... is that diplomacy is not enough and international organizations, you and the new and security council are not the right tool, because america is blocking the way,

they know that these organizations, these global organizations like the security council is not working, so so why why do you think the russians, why do you think the russians and chinese have not gotten more involved? i know that the russians are totally involved. with the war in ukraine and they are you know contained with what they are doing politically and diplomatically within the international arena, but they know the international and they were criticizing the united nations role for for falling or failing to do its part according to its chart, why? because the american um is controlling, the americans are controlling the the un, and china, china and its diplomacy of you, solving these problems, probably um, they don't want to get that

involved, although the chinese are renting the ha port, they have footstep in our land, on our land in ha port, and they put several of what we call um, sovereign and... cities, big companies that the israelies had built before 1948 on our land, so the the chinese know the threat that israel poses to their and the built initiative, they can't go ahead with this initiative in this region, in this part of all right, i'm so sorry, i'm so sorry, i only have 30 seconds left, so i mean it, it doesn't seem like sess fire is going to take. before the month of ramadan, what is it going to take to stop this genocide in your perspective? i just want to correct something, the in ha, it's india, indian

companies those to cover haifa, before that was the chinese, yes, and the the chinese always, as amel said, they will try to play diplomacy, but they are losing here, if they want to sustain their silcroot, they have to be involved, i called upon them an and an article 2012 with the russians to help in syria, because losing syria it will be devastating for both of them, the russians moved in, there are chinese playing economical games and i'm so sorry, i'm so sorry i have to in here, but we are really out of time, i appreciate both of you, so sorry, i'm another show, hopefully we'll talk, i'm outdan human rights activist, ramala, west asia expert out of belfast, and thank you viewers for being with us on another spotlight, goodbye for now.

in this week's show we'll be exposing the activities of an israeli lobby group operating in spain calling itself action and communication on the middle east, which is usually referred to by its initials acom. there was a poll done by ugov at the end of 2023 with found that essentially spain was the the most pro palestinian country in western europe um in terms of public opinion, so this is the... where you pay a relatively low political price for speaking out for palestine, in spain of course there is an islamophobic party the vox party, i just refer to a minute ago as a rump party, and uh this acom group is very quite close to to vox, that's an indication really of the kind of tradition of islamophobia which flows through the science.

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