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hello, i'm chris williamson and you're watching palestine declassified. we're the only weekly tv show that's dedicated to investigating and exposing the israeli regime's global war against solidarity with the illegally occupied people of palestine. in this week's show we'll be inspecting the role of zinus spirings on us university campuses who are using covert methods to stamp out criticism of israel and crush prop. has this report about how these zinest agents manipulate us legislation and influence us politicians, listen to nancy pelosi at the end of january this year, and what we have to do is try to stop the suffering and gossip, this is women and children, people don't have a place to go, so let's address that, but for them to call for a cease fire is mr. putin's message. mr. putin's message, make no

mistake, this is directly connected to what he would like to see, and then i think some of these, some of these protesters are spontaneous and organic and sincere, some i think are connected uh to russia, and i say that having looked at this for a long time, what is going on here? these are zionist talking points, as the palestinians say, every zionist accusation is a confession. in reality, the only country with really significant spy networks in the us is the of zionist entity. the fbi and the cia know this, but they are either unwilling or unable to investigate. israeli espinage networks operate freely in universities, businesses, and government facilities across the united states. one well-known spy network is the anti-deformation league. created in 1913, it has been... spying on arab americans since

before the creation of the zionist entity. throughout this period, the adl has also closely collaborated with the fbi. today, the adl is doing more than attempting to suppress free speech on palestine. it is attempting to have ordinary pro-palestine activism declared to be terrorism. what they are trying to do is use vaguely worded law which they lobbied for to intract palestine solidarity activism as falling under legal definition of material support for terrorism. in late october, the anti-deformation league and another zionist group published an open letter urging universities to investigate students for justice in palestine under the material support statute introduced in 1996. as well as accusing sjp of supporting hamas, they were also, the adl claimed, voicing increasingly radical call for confronting and dismantling zionism on us college campuses.

material support for terrorism can include giving advice or other speech, so long as it's at the behest or in coordination with the terrorist group, but there is also attempt by the adl and its allies to claim that routine pro-palestine activism should be legally understood as support for terrorism. they are working to blur the line between independent advocacy which is allowed and coordination which could be terrorism. it is of little. comfort that there is no public evidence, any sjp student members coordinated with hamas or any other armed group. the case law construing the material support statutes punishment of advocacy is so underdeveloped that there is considerable room for investigative overreach by the fbi. the line of between independent advocacy and material support as speech in coordination with a listed terrorist group remains unelaborated. of course the ad is one of the few

non-government groups that trains federal law enforcement on counter terrorism. it can use the gap to advance its overreaching concept of material support statute. to fight back, all campus groups and university management need to declare that no independent campus speech, no matter how incendiary serves as legitimate basis for material support investigation. joining me in the studio as usual is our resident expert david miller. david is academic and a former professor at bristol university and is now a non-resident senior research follow at the center of islam and global affairs at istanbul zeam university. he's also a co-director of the lobby. stock spinwatch and is a leading british scholarly critic of israel. our guest contributor today is lamis deek who's based in the united states and i spoke to her earlier via skype. lemis is a lawyer whose work spans international human rights, criminal defense, civil rights, civil litigation, immigration and family law. her

reputation is such that her renowned legal advocacy work has been highlighted by major national and international media outlets. welcome to the show. well, i started by asking lamise if she's thought that many people in the united states actually buy into the kind of argument that nancy pelosi was making in that report that we just saw in lift tiffa's contribution. not only is this a dishonest attempt to divert and demonize popular democratic will, um, but it really speaks to somebody who's so grossly disconnected from the american populist, but also from what should be her own. base, the people who are buying into it are only the people who are already have taken a position or who are so deeply propagandized and unable to reconcile the very obvious contradictions and so need this kind of grasping at straws

to find a boogie man uh behind this massive truly hurricane of support for palestinian liberation and for a ceasefire in the us. david, this argument then about um uh concerns for gaza being a putin talking point, what do you make of that? well, it's an attempt isn't it to use this whole russia gate thing uh that was the debate was encouraged in the us that somehow trump was a russian asset or in the uk that somehow brexit was brought about by russian lobby to divert attention from the fact that that there's actually a genocide going on. in gaza and they try and say, oh, if you say you're for sease fire, you're just being used as a useful idea by by vladimir putin, as if that's going to mean people going to say, oh, i'll not see anything about palestine anymore, of course that's the, that's the attempt, that's what it's for, it's an attempt to to quiet and and dampen and to put people off to intimidate people from talking

about the fact that the children are being killed every single day deliberately by the zionists, yes he do, well lamis herself has been targeted by the anti-deformation league for c thing that zionism should be dismantled, so i asked her about her experience of that group? well, so if i may you, i actually didn't even know that i was a target of the adl, i i've been a target many times, i was one of even when i was early in law school, a target of daniel pipe's operation called little green footballs, so this is something that's become a main stay and a staple of my life since i was quite young for 23 years now. um, i was apprised of it actually through a colleague whom i met through an irish conference on irish reunification, um, their tactics have shifted, there's now google reviews out about me, um, so the their operation has become more sophisticated than it used to be, in the

sense that they do attack business and income and copy, have created copy cat sites and so on and so forth, so i have a long history of experience. with outlets like the adl. david, we've already spoken about the anti-definition league a number of occasions of we on on this show, um, but for the benefits of of viewers who perhaps have missed those those shows, i wonder whether you you might just briefly outline the kind of history of the of the adl, the anti-deformation, so it was created in 1913, in relation to an alleged case of antisemitism, case which is actually still to this day hot. disputed the the the person was involved was black and was a question about whether there was racism involved in in the setting up with the organization itself, but by the 1940s it was already civiling arab-americans frout at the creation of israel uh and accusing them of being anti-jewish so it's very very early example

the attempt to to weaponize antisemitism but before even the creation of israel and at that stage and all the way through its history is work very very closely with the fbi uh some mostly collaborating but has been occasions when the fbi has itself investigated the adl and and cases also when the adl have tried to infiltrate the fbi and the fbi is not like that, so there's a kind of a on-off relationship that's been actually. all the way through, there's been a a coordination and a collaboration, that's in part why the fbi can't or won't investigate the ideal uh, because they're just so close in in their involvement, yeah, well i i then asked lamis about the material support for terrorism debate and and how it's being used against pro- palestine protesters? uh, i'm going to try to be brief, but you're going to have to bear with me uh, i call them national security cases and material support. cases um, these are frameworks, these aren't just charges, these are actual frameworks that

extend to the civil arena, the financial, the commercial, they become sanctions, they become corporate compliance issues, they're very serious allegations and very wide all consuming network, and i'll tell you having handled these cases since approximately 2004 and having represented on one of the last ones, the last big ones to come, because we ended up shutting down a big part of the apparatus. that was manufacturing these cases are very well coordinated and often mobilized at first instance by the israeli government. the ccr along with daryl lee have put out a report recently on this and i've been giving lectures specifically about this for almost two decades, a little less probably, and if you look at the history of the material support laws in the us, they were nine out of 10 times, if not almost all the time. um targeting palestinians in coordination with the israeli government. david, why do you

think then the the fbi hasn't investigated the adl a bit more? well, i mean to be fair, the the fbi has investigated the adl, both in terms of attempts to infiltrate it way back in in the 40s and 50s, also then in the 90s when there was spy case taken against the adl and it was revealed that the adl were coordinating with the bureau of state security in in south africa's apart. regime uh that they were passing information about uh uh anti-apartide protesters to the south africans that they coordinated directly with with the israelis, the fbi were investigating some of that, they in fact said this is a this is clearly foreign agent of the israeli government, it should be registered as such etc. but of course there's always been in these circumstances attempt at the top of the american par structure to drop these things been the case actually also with the cia, but especially with the fbi. "there's been tons of examples where where the adl and other israeli spy operations have been have been

flagged as being a problem and there's always been somehow some pressure put and the and the and the investigations just dropped and they suddenly they say oh no there was wasn't anything there no indeed cuuse i was going to ask you mean you yes they've investigated as you've said but but they're still going and they're still doing these kind of nefarious activities that's right and and and it's it's crazy because ladia was only one example" the many different spiring design in america and and there's a it's like they've got kind of compromat on on key elements of the the hierarchy and certainly we know there's been comprom in cases the case of president clinton for example and others but but that's probably part of the story but i think there's much more to it which is that which is that there are people in the top of the fbi and indeed the cia who don't want this story to be told and so they they get the people want to investigate it honest people in the fbi get squash. yes, indeed, well, we're going to uh come back to our discussion after our next report, this one's about a

malevolent group whose entire rison dettra is to thort pro- palestine groups on university campuses. israel on campus coalition has been spying on pro- palestine students for years. it is linked to israeli intelligence and strategically targets individual students or faculty on campus in order to crush the movement. icc was created by hilelel international and the lind schusman family foundation in 2002 to promote israel advocacy on campus. the money came from the businessman charles schusman who at that stage had major interest in bancopol, israel's largest bank and has extensive interest in oil, real estate, banking and shipping in the us. today, hilel and icc maintain close organizational ties. the icc continues to provide hilel professionals with israel. advocacy training and support, hilal has taken a more extreme form of zinanism in

recent years sparking a rebellion by some student members who are critical of some aspects of zionism. they call their challenge open hilal and says it promotes pluralism and open discourse on israel, palestine in jewish communities on campus and beyond. we aim to eliminate hilal international standards of partnership for israel activities which exclude individuals and groups from the jewish community on campus on the basis of their views on israel, but even calling for debate on zinanism was too much for the icc which engaged in spying on the jewish students. group, the spy operation was closely coordinated with the zinis regime, as was revealed by the lobby usa. here is lila greenberg, formerly of apex, but the iccs resources from all of the campus organizations, so that like they're tapped in on all. according to jacob bame, currently the icc's chief executive officer, we built

up this massive national political campaign to crush them. it's modeled on general stanley. counter-insurgency strategy in iraq, we've copied lot from that strategy that has been working really well for us, actually, and one of the pieces is this operations and intelligence for you. this is then passed to israel's ministry of strategic affairs. bame confirmed that icc coordinates with, and communicates with the ministry. once collected, data from the icc's web of campus spies and high-tech israeli surveillance equipment then flows to the anti-deformation league. the adl itself closely. in touch with zinis intelligence agency, but also uses the data to weaponize antisemitism in its reports on bds in palestine activism. among its other activities, the icc offered to pay any pro israel student 250 to attend the sparsely attended dam squib of the march for israel in november 2023 in washington dc. make no

mistake, designist regime has agents on campus all over the united states. everyone must be removed. david, tell us about this helal international and you this student uh group that's you been involved in inspiring, it's another shocking example isn't it of of zinist activities? yeah, another shocking example, yes, so halal international is the us version of the zianast student groups that you see all over the world, usually the members of the world union of jewish students like the the union of jewish students in the uk is, hilal is not a member of that, so it's not formally part. movement, but it's become increasingly zionist over over the past few years and and you can see that especially in this launching back in 2002 of the the israel on campus coalition, an organization which directly coordinates with uh with israeli intelligence officials, and so you can see that that kind of the way in which um advocacy, zienist advocacy can fuse or maled

into actual subversion by israel's intelligence agencies on foreign campuses. in the us they have they have hundreds and hundreds of uh of uh branches on different us campuses uh heldos and they work very closely in almost every case with with icc, the israel and campus coalition as well right? well the israel on campus coalition has has been coordinating with the zionist regime for some time, so i asked lemes why that's a problem for supporters of palestine? look, this implicates lot of not just constitutional civil um issues, but this implicates in a very real way the physical safety of these students. we've seen on campus in colombia students and including some palestinian students who were um

attacked with uh skunkwater by uh by other students. believe who had served in the israeli army, um, i think, just as the adl should be investigated, and i'm sure many of the attorneys i know and respect, will be launching demands for investigation of the adl and the icc, the not not the international criminal court, but the israel on campus coalition of being agents of the israeli government, and i'm sure that a proper investigation will reveal that to be the case, so... there's a concern about repression, about academic censure in academia, this is terrifying concept that we were seeing escalate in a way that we hadn't seen before, and a threat to the physical safety of the students, israeli agents operate on you as soil. david, this seems to be more than attempt to oppose bds, doesn't

it? i mean, it really is an israeli spy network. isn't it? yeah, look, i mean, you can normally if you have a dispute and you have a different student groups in different sides, then they're having arguments and this this called debate. of course, now in the case of bds go further, they took, they moved towards bullying and intimidation and all those kinds of things, but this is a step further than that as well in the sense that it's actually directly recruiting students on campuses to spy for hostile foreign state to pass the information back to israel so it can't weaponized and so in particular uh people are docs, the personal details are given out, they try and stop them getting careers or jobs or or to to rem in universities for example, so it's it's very much... uh um covert intelligence involvement in in campus politics direct by by the israel intelligence agencies, which is really quite different from what you would expect in

anti-bds campaigning. of course, well then asked lemes about her view on the current shape of campus activism on palestine? what i've seen is something i've never seen before, which is not just the growth um of the numbers of students. from all backgrounds who are joining these movements, but this the growth in their strength and bravery and in their willingness to confront on challenge in a more sophisticated way than i'd seen in 23 years of giving support to student activists um as my side gig not not my primary uh legal work um i've never seen the level of sophistication, bravery and organizing in the face of equally unprecedented. pression and attacks from campus administrators who, by the way, are under extreme pressure, not just by the federal and local government, but by

zionist and israeli organizations, and part of our offering when we um represent and defend these students is an offering to campus administration to help them push back against these very difficult ethical um connundrums and and conflicts that they're facing, how exact? is this um israel on campus funded then, mean it's uh interesting, it was started um by by the uh the susterman family foundation, money comes from this guy called charles susterman who had big share in the bank appm, the biggest israely bank and you usual kind of other financial interest in the uk in the us sorry yeah uh but then later on it was also funded it's been funded by and this was revealed by the lobby usa program it funded by this guy this convict adam milstein who funded a covertly and this was revealed in the undercover filming which you saw some of that in the the fritish just there, but i think what's interesting about all all of

this process is that that this you've also got to think about this in relation to the short left ministry of strategic affairs which is intelligence led ministry which is which was used to subvertuh bds campaigns all over the world and which was also putting money into these companies the difficulty in the us let's remember is the foreign agen registration act, a piece of law which is brought in to counteract naty influence in the 1930s in the us, and so the difficulty is that israel through the ministry of strategic affairs wanted to play money 35 million dollars in one particular year into all all these uh proszionist organizations but it couldn't do it because the some of the organizations said well we'll have to register us foreign agents and so probably what's happened is that some of this money has gone through pass throughs and gone into to foundations. then being given directly to organizations like the icc, well we're going to have to leave it there as the clocks beaten us again, so thanks for watching and thank you to our guest deek and of course our

residence expert professor david miller, palestiny classified will be back next week with more forensic investigations and analysis, and you can follow the show on facebook, twitter and telegram where we post regular clips and updates, you can also help us to counteract the disinformation pedaled by the corporate media about palestine and the resistance to ziners brutality, by showing today's program on your... media platforms, so until next time, this is chris williamson, saying bye for now. information about palestine abounds on social networks, many times without context. they do not allow us to go deeper and understand all

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