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of this is not a war, it is systematic genocide, but whatever they try, palestine will never die. hello, i'm chris williamson and you're
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watching palestine declassified. we're the only weekly tv show that's dedicated to investigating and exposing the israeli regime's global war against solidarity with the illegally occupied people of palestine. in this show we'll be asking how and why the british political class. was seized by the zeinish lobby. what are the implications for our democracy if our lawmakers are in throll to israel? the chief tracker starts to answer that question with this report about the example of a former labour cabinet minister john hutten who now sits in the house of lords. the british political class is captured and there are many symptoms of this. one such glaring example of this is former a minister john hotton. he currently sits in the unelected house of lords where he shapes.
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legislation hutten previously served under tony blair a secretary of defense during the occupation of iraq and afghanistan. today he works directly for the israeli regime as the director of an arms firm that is owned by the israeli government. following his role under blair, hutton went to be chairman of the royal united services institute, key war mongering think tank that is funded by arms giant bae systems, lockhead martin and after that, he worked as an advisor to lockhead martin at the same time as sitting in the house of lords. he is now director of the arms firm pearson engineering, which was bought out by israeli arms giant raphael, which is directly owned by the netanyahu government. rafael is israel's third largest weapons company with 8,00 employees and over 30 subsidiaries worldwide. some of the most famous systems used by the israeli occupation forces. are the iron dome, iron beam, trophy,
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popie, and david sling. today, lord john of hotton serves as a director of raphael subsidiary piss and engineering alongside three israelis, the most notable being dr. ran gazali, executive vice president of raphael advanced defense systems. another key director of pearson is yoram aron, who emerged from albit systems and also has his own lobbying group. the rafael site in newcastle has been subject to constant protest and disruption with palestine action shutting it down on neckber day. it is certain that having a member of the house of lords direct to the company provides some protection in chambers of power. surely labor lord john hutten's conflict of interest as an agent of the israeli government should disqualify him from the house of lords. join me in the studio as usual is our residents expert david miller. davidson academic and a
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former professor at bristol university and is now a non-resident senior research fellow at the center for islam and global affairs, istanbul zaham university. he's also a of co-director of the lobby watch dog spinwatch and is a leading british scholarly critic of israel. our guest contributor today is ian hodson who joins us via skype. ian is lifelong trade unionist and the long-standing president of the bakers union. when the labor party threatened him with expulsion because of his connections to opponents of the parties witchunt against socialists and of palestine campaigners is union voted to disaffiliate from the party. welcome to the show. david, what do you know about this arms company rafael and its activities in the united kingdom? so raffael is directly owned by the uh government of the state of israel, so-called state of israel, and it has a subsidiary in this country called peerson engineering, which is based in newcastle uh, and it - if you look at its website and it's activities in the uk, it talks about all these weapons it makes and the uh missile
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defense systems, the drone systems, etc. etc. and so it's engaged in producing the means to kill palestinians essentially uh, in newcastle, and uh, it should be, you should be shut down as a as i should all these israely armsfs? yeah, no, indeed. well, ian, um, what's your opinion of of john hutton's record then as as a minister? afternoon, chris, i mean, obviously, um, his record obviously was very much a blayer loyalist, uh, he was put in positions uh, where he could obviously influence policy in the direction um of the government, and it seems that when he stopped being... uh inside the labour party is is taken up role uh for the conservative government too in directing uh britain's involvement um and contributions to to people's ward efforts around the world i think uh i think his voting record speaks for itself in in what he thinks about humanity
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and and uh how what what value he puts on life yeah no it certainly does but then david i mean would it be fair then to describe uh 'jton as as a sort of foreign agent of sorts, don't you think? well, we we see this kind of thing on the show quite a lot and people sometimes object, but but look, he he's working directly, he's a director of a firm which is directly owned uh by by designist entity, mean it's it's hard to put it any more straightforwardly than that, he works for zionists, he works with zionist entity, and he's therefore a foreign agent, mean in the us as you'll know they they have the foreign agent registration act which was'. up in order to stop uh and to hold accountable um people who were working for the nazi regime in germany and it's still still exists on on the statute books, there's been talk about introducing it here of course to target iran and enemy nations, but if it was introduced a a similar kind of uh act then
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people like hutten would have to register as agents of foreign regime and in this case of course hostile foreign regime which is engaged as everyone can see uh in genocide. hm, where's the pressure coming from to introduce a similar scheme to the united states and to register these sorts of characters? well, the pressure comes from those who want to uh, to register uh, you and me, chris, as agents, agents of iran, right, they don't, and that's why they the're they're a bit um, unsure about doing it, because of course it would been that people who are very, very difficult to to exclude - operates for for israel, they want to do iran and russia and china, they don't want to do the the... countries which are of course important uh in in penetrating this country, most obviously are israel which which has an active intelligence operation against this country, and of course someone like hutten is an active agent for hostile foreign regime as as everybody can see indeed, i mean the lobby is i mean it's so all embracing, i mean the
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kind of the israel lobby probably is the most effective lobby operating in in the country at the moment is it, it's i mean it's certainly um extremely effective, but it's also... lobby which people don't understand is actually hostile to the united kingdom, people think it's it's it's uh it's an ally the uk and of course there is a sense in which there is an alliance the same with with the us, the us of course and the uk supplies them with weapons and training and all that kind of thing, but they are also actually hostile, it's the only only country in the world which can shoot down uh american planes or sink american boats and and get away with get away with it yeah well i mean does does it strike you as odd that that someone can have role in the house of lords while they're being employed by foreign government? mean, if you contrast the discussion that's going on at the moment about the ownership of the daily telegraph for example, and the fact that we've actually ennoble somebody to sit in the house of lords which is working uh for
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the foreign government, then then then it's it's curious, when we talk about democracy in in the uk and about the ability to... uh make legislation or have have an impact on on legislation when you're actually being paid by a by an outside government, mean are you making the decisions in the interest of you know the people of the united kingdom or you're making the interest of the person who's paying your wages? you know, mean i i can't understand how you can have conservative politicians you know complaining about the ownership of the daily telegraph which is not you know a... function of british democracy, um, but nobody seems to question an enoble lord - that's sitting in the house of laws, paid by the british tax payer when he turns up, uh, making decisions about you, the future of the people that live in this country and whether or not they get involved in conflicts that have absolutely
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nothing to do with us and invest in armaments, because obviously, you know, the the the idea of um, the the people who... represents benefit from those decisions made in westminster in the the house of lawds. yeah, well david, just say a word or to then will you about our friend lukest i think we we've mentioned on the show a few time. because just tell us a bit about his organization, he's a character prominent individual in the labour parties, it's on the labour party's national executive committee, didn't he? yes, so mean he was lobbist in previous life and he worked for arms firms in vikanica and gkn and number of others, but then he was brought into bicom, the britan israel communication research center, one of the main israel lobby groups in this country, and then he was used to to create this other sort of... um organization out of bycom called we believe in israel which has been in existence for now for i think more than 10
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years yeah and so he is a fully paid israel lobbist at the same time as being he was a counselor same time as being on the national executive committee again of the labor party and so he's effectively you know as are now quite a number of members of the national executive committee effectively an agent of foreign state running a political party the leader of which says he has a he's asign without qualification, yeah, so you've only got to give the examples of kier starmer and you're already saying that something very strange about party, we've talked about john hutten who's a labor party lord, i mean this is all the way through the government class, these connections with the hostile foreign state, which is the zionist entity, yeah, and of course you're talking of sakia starmer appointed a former israely spook didn't a unit h200, kaplin to do social listening. for the for the labor party, but look akers and
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ian um is a prominent zienist as we just said sitting on the labour party's national executive committee, mean given his connections, mean do you think it would be fair to describe him as a as foreign agent? well again this is somebody who's who's receiving payments for for acting on you know different government's behalf, i believe they called in their best asset at one point, i think it was on the vbc. i'm sure i saw it on the bbc um in a in a documentary where they refer to him as such um i mean so so i think you know the the idea that that somebody is so heavenly influenced by by outside forces playing um pivotal road now inside the labor party is is it's got to be alarming i mean and you know i think when you look at what's happened to the labor party in recent years and i mean there's all this discussion going on at the moment about the race attack on uh diane abbot and the horrific comments have been made about uh about her by a prominent
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wealthy individual who's been contributing to the british political system, we we see i think that as a as the reality of what's what has happened to our political system and the reason why people now feel so detached from what's happening in their lives and while less and less people want to be involved in politics and i think... 'you know the the the whole position that the labour party has taken um in relation to the um the the war on palestine is is is is one that's been heavily influenced by, i would imagine people sitting around that nec table like luke acers which obviously hasn't really put them in a in a very good light, you's not put the interests of um the uk first in my opinion, he's put the interests of people that he regards as um his'. yes, yes, no, indeed. well, listen, we'll come back to the discussion after our
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next report now, and this one's about the attempts of the british political establishment to redefine the definition of extremism. next book speech from the member. in the uk, it looks like zionist extremists are defining extremism for the rest of us. jonathan woodcock, member of the house of lords is spare heading the government investigation into extremism an effort to crush support. for palestine, even as latest january, he took funding from israel lobby groups, having previously served this chair the labor friends of israel. additionally, woodcock has been to palestine on an israeli government funded trip where he planted trees with the jnf, israel's largest settlement building group. he was also part of the consortium that purchased israeli lobby rag, the jewish chronicle in 2020, alongside bbc director robby gibb and... ware, the journalists who made panorama programs to aid the witch hunt in the labor party, charity
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commissioner hitman, william shawcross, and campaign against antisemitism founder jonathan sacardoti. proud zionis and rampant islamophobe michael gove has also been shaping the british government's definition of extremism, which will incrude groups like palestine action. gove is also close to at least three names on benjamin netanyahu's private list of millionaire funders. he wanted for his leadership campaign in liquid, as revealed by zaine's website w.net. one key name was convicted fraudster gerald ronson as education secretary. gave 2 million pounds of public money to ronson's organization, the musad trained community security trust, while simultaneously being its board of advisers. another name on netanyahu's list was property developer zach gurtler, who donated 100,000 to michael gove just a month before he became housing minister. gertler pictured here at
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the israeli embassy in london is also a patron of the illegal settlement building organization, the jewish national fund. manny viz was also on netanyahu's list. vise is the only director of a company called manrose which is also funded michael gove in the past. david jonathan woodcock's got quite the position of influence today hasn't he? well he's not the only one. i mean the what what cock is called he's called lord walney to give him his name, but there's there's others isn't there's an austin, there's john man, these are all people who came from the web party in event. are doing the the the job of uh of the zinist entity uh inside uh the house of lords, so what what woodcock is involved in this the extremism debate and in trying to expand the definition of extremism so that uh uh perfectly legitimate pro-palestine organizations are regarded as being extremist and can be therefore marginalized or legal actions can be taken
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against them or the police can be used against them so this is a mechanism to try and expand. the the definition of extremism to take on the mass movement there is in this country uh in favor of palestinian rights and against genocide. well yeah and mean what you could tell us about woodcock's on ceremonious exit from the labour party? mean obviously pleaded his innocence and then um then he left the labor party before they could fully investigate the the allegations laid against him mean i know if i was being investigated i'd want you know and was innocent i'd want those uh, you know, to be fully investigated and an outcome that that, demonstrated that i was that i was being honest, but he chose to vacate, because obviously he must have felt that the evidence that was against him um, wouldn't have put him in a position where he believed it would have represented his character in the best light, i mean, so i think you know the fact that he did what he
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did, you know, uh, by leaving the labor party and and then leaving that... gaping hole about his character um, which then seems to have been rewarded by boris johnson, um, you know, and and and it's also strange, you have two mps, hutten and woodkock, that come from the same seat, it's, you know, it's a strange situation, it is a strange situation, ian, and if memory says me correctly, woodcock actually used to work for hutten as one of his special advice. 'i don't if you if he knew that, but uh, strange all world isn't it? but anyway, david, um, look, woodcock planted trees inly for the uh, the the the jewish national front, um, i mean, just tell us a bit about this organization, william, i think we've mentioned it on the show before, but you say a bit about the organization and and what its relationship is with the british political elite, so the jewish national fund
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is one of the four national institutions of the zionist movement, and it has has um affiliates uh in 30 or 40 countries around the world, there's one in the uk called the jnf uk and uh it's its role is to provide resources in order that money can be sent to uh to the science entity to purchase or to move palestinians out of of land which they they own and to build settlements on that land so it's a settlement building agency of ethnic cleansing as uh put it but historically it's always had uh from many many years now, very senior political figures in the uk, leaders of the labour party, tony blair, gordon brown, and david cameron, as as patrons of the organization, i think it was cameron who was one of the one only ones who who removed himself from the jnf, and so there's because there's been a long-term campaign against the jnf, stop the jnf, and
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that's me it slightly less popular, and there's been some kind of trepidation in some the british political elite for to... associate themselves with it, but nevertheless it still has a strong relationship with the elements of the british elite and it's it's not moving towards being outlaweds in charity at least yet, it's got a benig sounding name guess to to lot of people, you think that's one of the reasons maybe why some people fight shy about maybe criticis got jewis in the title and you start criticizing that you're going to be accused of anti-semitism, well it's with all these organizations almost all the designist organizations in this country. we have jewish somewhere in the name, there's the board of deputies of british jews, which is a sionist organization, there's the united jewish israel appeal, i mean fund raser for colonization of palestine, this the jewish national front, they're all... supposed to be the nice organizations which are just dedicated to uh experiencing jewish peoplehood in in occupied palestine but of course you know that always is at the expense
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the indigenous people of palestine palestinians so yes of course they want to present it as being some kind of innocent thing but it's not this is ethnic cleansing and and it's an organization which has charitable status in this country to this day people are are sites and most of the people that live in so-called israel come from europe and ye, it's it's an absurd situation, that that that there we are, that's that's the reality, yeah, yeah, antisemitism is perhaps a bit of a misnomer isn't it, anyway, but ian, um, what do you make of michael gove redefining extremism then? i think what i what i've seen, um, over the last few years is is the extremes of in westminster, the the people that are uh creating the uh the problems in our communities are being led by. politicians, i mean we've just seen lee anderson who's now gone from labor to to uh to the reform party, you know, um, and all the way along he's he's been involved in in
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cause for discrimination against - minority groups, you know, i mean um, if i was the reform party, i wouldn't be welcoming people like lee anderson with the history that he has uh for for for denegrating um different different communities in our country, i think the the idea that the... that um michael golve can can frame extremism when when he's involved in so much himself um i just think it's um you know it's it's shameful i mean the politicians in this country have acted shamefully i mean you know what we saw a couple of weeks ago with the speaker and then you know the the idea that it was done to protect mps when mps are are at the forefront again going back to dian aber i mean it's a somebody who donated 10 million quid to the tour. party that that suggested that she should be shot. i mean, we had this situation with jeremy corbin as as target practice, you know, in the in the run up to the general
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election. i mean, and none of that was called out by by the politicians who are now talking about shutting down democracy. i mean, when we talk about protests and the right to protest, i think the idea that politicians somehow have the ability to make uh decisions when... 'you know the keep making the wrong ones, whether whether it's war um in europe or war in the middle east, i mean we can't rely on these politicians uh to make sensible decisions because they make them for political advantage and for political opportunity and populism, so i think you know the idea that that a government in the last uh breaths of its life should be depicting what what what people can and cannot do in societies'. is not um in my opinion the the right way forward, we we need to recognize that things have only changed in this country when we've come together as people and and
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forced politicians to listen, mean slavery was once legal, it was people that came together to stop that, you know that our history is litted with examples of of of um of people power, forcing politicians to do the right thing, well i think it's going to be people power isn't it, it's going to try and force change buse our politicians are certainly not fit for purpose, but david, i mean, does it surprise you that um, that uh, michael govis is close to some of netanyahu's wealthy patrons, not at all, i mean the example which was used in the film there of the relationship with general ronson of the community security trust, that was a story which it was me that unearth that some some decade ago now where we find secret document which was inadvertently left lying on the internet which showed the names of the advisor. council of the community security trust which i found and then put together with the fact that that go was giving millions and millions of pounds of taxpayers money at the same time was being uh on the on the advisory board and therefore had a
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conflict of interest and it was huge howels of outrage how could you say this about innocent jewish organization of course everybody now knows the extremism of the community security trust which is technically supposed to be against extremism but which itself is engaged in through through ronson's the fraudster who who runs it through. his personal charity and in giving money to jewish supremacist organizations like hababad, which you've discussed uh on this program before. yeah, well, i'm afraid that's it for another show, so thanks for watching, and thank you to our guest ian hodson and of course our residence expert professor david miller. palestine the classified is now being broadcast twice a week, so we'll be back soon with more forensic investigations and analysis, and you can follow the show on facebook, twitter and telegram where we post regular clips and updates. you can also help us to counteract the disinformation pedaled by the... corporate media about palestine and the resistance to zinist brutality by showing today's program on your social media platforms, so until next time, this is chris williamson, saying bye for now.
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well, i think a lack of tech workers is the least of israel's problems right now. look, we're committed to win the war, we're going to win the war regardless of anything, uh, and i think that the when people look at the economics of israel, they want to make sure. first of all, we're secure city and country, so our security is economic element, if hamas thinks that we're going to end this with them, returning to power, they're wrong. the far bigger problem it faces is first of all, it's military challenge from the resistance on every crime.
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christivy headlines this hour: the death toll from the israeli genocide in gazak sees 31,700, as the regime's indiscriminate strikes kill more palestinians across the territory. iman strongly condemns israel's attack on gaza's al-schiffa hospital as a blatant violation of all international laws and humanitarian principles. also coming up, cuba says the us embassy in havana is seeking to stoke a broad anti-govent uprising and medle in the country's internal affairs.