hello and welcome to press tv spotlight, i'm marza hashimi, thanks so much for being with us, well it is the 169th day of the israeli holocaust on the gos. strip, palestinians are still being murdered, infrastructure is still being destroyed, hospitals are still being occupied by regime troops and staff is still being intimidated, kidnapped, injured or killed, and children are still starving to death, while right on the other side of the rafa crossing on saturday, stood the un secretary general antonio gateres, saying, of enough is enough, but who is really going to make this genocide stop, and when is enough?

really enough, but i'd like to welcome my guests to the program. sarah trustdale, human rights activist out of manchester, and charlotte kates from samidon palestinian prisoners solidarity network out of vancouver. welcome both of you to the program. let's start it off in manchester with sarah. i mean, is the world be? coming desensitized as every day, the zionist regime is killing at least 100, usually more, and this genocide just continues to happen. that's the thing that me and my friend was discussing the other day, because i follow lot of the journalists on the ground in palestine, and you cannot keep up, like if there's a terrorist attack normally, you you have time to stop, think about it more on the victims, with the ongoing genocide, it's just non-stop hour after. r like today, 72 people

killed today, they lined up 170 civilians outside al-shifer and shot them dead, um, these stories coming out that the're urinating on prisoners and letting dogs go to attack prisoners, some of the stories we are hearing a horrific, and if it was happening to in any other country then it would be all over the news, i mean i don't watch the of mainstream media, but i do... have a quick walk every day and the way that the mainstream media is why can misrepresenting and being very disingenuous which is nice way to put it out and out whying is another i mean it's not a war when one side is an occupying force but yes it does feel like i grew up of the generation that i grew up in sedley park which is majorly jewish area i went to a catholic school and we used to go to brotton house and we learned about the second world war and atrocities that were

committed and people used to say, how has this happened? well, we're watching it happen again now and no one's doing anything, and palestinians are the only people in the world, you have to say, we're human, can you please, why are they having to beg to be seen as human? does that not say there's something seriously wrong with the world? so answer to your question, yeah, do think the world has become very dystopian and very desensitized to people just don't seem to... seem to care and it it's horrifying. yeah, well, i just talked to our correspondent just the last half hour, charlotte, and uh, he's in data by law, and the information that he was giving was just so overwhelming when talking about what is happening right now at el shafa hospital, as we speak, that the israeli regime, the troops are still there, that hundreds of paramedics have been kidnapped that at least 200 people are still being.

held and being tortured inside, i mean it's just so mindbockling the things that he is saying. i mean, charlotte, what has to happen in your perspective? i mean, we we hear these things every day, and it just gets more and more shocking, but at the end of the day we face another day with the same thing, if not worse. the reason why we're continuing to face this is because the united states and its western imperialist partners including including. canada, the united kingdom, the european union states continue to be complicit in supporting and allowing this genocide to happen. the fact is that over one-third of the people in the world live under some form of us sanctions, while in this case the united states is sending billions of dollars in weaponry to the zionist occupation regime, every single day uh us taxpayers give $10 million dollars in weapons to the zionist to continue. genocide,

so you know, we can see what happens when the united states actually wants to stop a state from pursuing something, typically its own independent path of development to the future, which is sanctions, invasions, occupation and war. right now the united states is continuing to not just allow, but sponsor this genocide, and it doesn't matter how many times we hear that there's tension between biden and netanyahu, or that blincon is unhappy, because the fact is that the united states is sponsoring, funding and backing this genocide 100% of the way, and that if the us uh simply decided to cut off the flow of weapons, the zionist regime would have very difficult. time continuing along this completely unaccountable path of genocide. the the actions that we're seeing to actually put an end are coming from, for example, the people, armed forces, uh, government and the ansara movement of yemen, who have actually been taking meaningful action to uphold international law and put an

end to the genocide, and for that effort they have been targeted for bombing campaigns and war like attacks from the united states, britain, canada, germany and their partners. um, we're seeing south africa, we're sorry, yeah, no, no, you brought up some interesting points, charlotte, i want to pick up there with sarah, she talked about uh, as far as the resistance movements and what they're doing, for example, out of yemen, are we have hezbollah, out of lebanon, we have other groups, and these groups are actually the ones that are upholding international law, when in in reality, in this dystopian world that we live in, they're actually considered the terrorists, i mean, let's look at where we stand with all of... this and and do you think though this is moment of clarity for those who really want to know the reality of who's some? yeah, mean the the someone's uh, i saw a sign it one of the process and it said the thing that died in the not else died

in gaza, the the myth of western civility, because i was, i'm an english woman and i was raised to believe that you know we were, you know, all the... beat fascism and all that and you you you are you brainwashed in this one trap um but yeah it's it's absolutely at the point now where you're just watching endless war crimes like we were saying you can't and it's being funded in being out that's what i'm saying like david cameron stands up in the house of commons and says we are at the point of family now people are dying now these trucks at the border but no one's stopping them because america are backing them and america, nobody on the news, i've not seen one single person turn round and say israel are an occupaying force and don't have the right to self-defense, which is actually international law, international law always seems to apply to, yeah, i think i think the, i think the the blinkers have come

off the world for all time, i don't understand how anyone come up and say, yeah, america uh, back in theocracy, we've got sunak up there who no one voted for sunak as pm. going out and giving a speech and saying that the democratic election of george galloway was attack on democrater, but israel, the occupation force committing endless war crimes and he stood up there going we back israel unequivocal, there's nothing we can do to stop the famin, yeah we could, exactly what charlock just said, we stop sending the weapons, we stopped sending the funding, if we're not arming them, right? well um, charlotte, you know, um, how distopian is it that on one side of the wall, "there are people who are being bombed to death and killed from starvation, and on the other side is food and supplies and the un secretary general saying enough is enough. i mean, what exactly does it mean when the person who's supposed to be leading the organization to prevent this from happening

is saying this? i mean, who's he talking to, to whom is he appealing? isn't it his job? that's one of the things that's really standing out is the fact. that the united states uh by exercising its veto and then by putting up an absolutely fake so-called ceasefire resolution yesterday which had to be vetoed by russia and china and opposed by algeria because it wasn't actually going to mandate a seizfire by the zionist regime, it was actually attempting to give cover to the zionist regime for its ongoing war crimes, and so we're seeing this happen in the united nations as well, and the fact is that at there is no shortage of food and aid for palestinians. gaza, what palestinians are facing is not a natural disaster, there was not an earthquake, there was not a typhoon, and there was not a tornado. uh, this is something that is being carried out, created and committed by the zionist occupation and it's co-conspirators and partners and

genocide, and so all that is necessary to allow aid is simply to open the rafa crossing and allow aid to enter, so all of this theater from the united states about airdrops um and and whatnot is actually meant to distract attention from the fact that the united states has been essentially ordering uh the egyptian regime in partnership. with the israeli occupation to keep the rapha crossing closed as part of the siege on gaza for the past 17 years and that by simply stopping ordering that to happen um that would i mean certainly if if the united states wanted to send its trucks through the raffa crossing of aid and support to palestinians in gaza um are the israelis going to open fire on them so so so there is an there's an there's a a really... attempt in the mainstream media and from these governments, because they recognize the fact

that a immense number of people around the world, including in the heart of the imperial core, millions upon millions upon millions of americans and canadians and british folks and europeans are absolutely disgusted and infuriated by this horrific genocide being carried out and occupied palestine by the zionist regime, and in order to try to placate all these people, that are coming out into the streets and saying they refuse complicity, they're talking about you know airdrops, fake seesfire resolutions and all of this while doing absolutely nothing, and in fact doing everything they can to impede any movement toward actual justice in palestine. all of these countries continue to list palestinian and lebanese resistance organizations and make it criminal to support them, to and list these organizations as terrorists. no, this is legitimate self-defense and it's a right under international law. right. well, um, sarah,

south africa's foreign minister nalida bandar has said that people should continue and increase their protesting against this genocide. she suges suggested the targets of the protest, be the five supporters of the israeli onslot on palestinians, the us, france, germany, uk and the eu. your thoughts on on what she said, and do you think that it can be effective? as... being effective, i don't think it can do any harm, i don't think that the amount we need the amount of people ev out on the streets, we need it to stay the same to increase, because without any of pressure, i saw because one of the uh conservative mps put slight pressure on him, so i think that the... what is right, we've gotments that are backing it, like in america

and uk for example, they sending up weapons there every week, so yeah, do agree with what she said, i mean it's not making the difference that i'd like it to make, but i don't think it can do any harm and we need people to keep continuously, one of the things like you said is the dystopian world we live in, it's becoming there's that many things happening, there's that many war crimes happening, it's like shocking all constant, you can't you don't get chance to, mean this morning alone i've seen footage of a patients leaving el shifa hospital with the needles hanging out of the arms, the bomb the surgical, mean it's just non-stop, so yes i do agree with what she said, but everyone's got to continue to protest and agitate anything that brings attention or wakes one more person up, mean i spoke to lady the other day who is not political at all, but bause i was wearing this she would started talking about it and then she was like yeah i'll go to a protest and... 'you no, if you're a human being at this point, it's you you've got to, so yeah, i agree with what she

said, and i do think that continuing to protest is the one of the one of the only things that we can do at this moment in time. well, charlotte, down israeli drone footage had been seen showing the assassination of four palestinian men simply walking and being targeted and blown up. even this type of footage is shown globally, and the rogue israeli regime'. doesn't even hesitate in continuing with its murders and it it's so mindbockling on the one hand we have them continue with their murders and on the other hand we look at mainstream media and we don't see absolute outrage due to the barbarity of this footage. mean, your take on on both sides of this. i think on the one hand we're actually seeing um a tremendous upsurge um that's continuing to take place. and one of the things that the corporate and state-backed media in the west is doing is

trying to actually uh diminish what's taking place and also limit people's access to information. why are we hearing in the united states now about how tiktok needs to be bad? it's a social media app like every other social media app. um the the government isn't talking about putting protections for people's privacy for all social media apps and corporations. they are very... concern that any company that's not owned by the united by a united states entity uh that people might be able to express information and exchange ideas on that and uh on that app we're seeing like meta introducing new tools to try to reduce the amount of political content in people's feeds and this is after people have been getting outraged and going to the streets about palestine, so there's a tremendous attempt to make sure that people either don't understand the extent of the horrors that are taking place or uh just kind

of descend into hopelessness and say there's nothing that we can do about it, but it's important, it's so critical. um, not just for people to see the brutal reality, but for people to actually take action against it and to understand that we can take action against it, and that the more we organize and act together, we actually do have the ability to stop this. um, right now, it's the palestinian people and their resistance, along with the lebanese resistance, along with the people in yemen, in iraq, in syria, in iran and throughout the region, who are on the front lines and defending humanity, and so... so if any of us want a future for humanity, we have got to organize, we've got to shut down business as usual, we're seeing actions like those taken by palestine action in britain for example, to actually materially shut down and stop uh zionist weapons uh factories from continuing their business, we're seeing um students at universities organizing and making their

universities or at least their uh student associations uh materially divest from corporations that are involved in profiting from genocide. um, in canada, one of the country's largest banks, scotia bank is being forced already to decrease its investments in, but still needs greater pressure uh to force them out of the zianist weapons industry. we've got to take more and bigger action, we need to mobilize the the people uh to be a real force together with the resistance and against these imperialist crimes. right, well sarah, how is it that russia was sanctioned heavily for its war on ukraine and even banned from many international arenas such as the olympics, but nothing has been done to the zionist regime, even though the scale of crimes against humanity are a whole different level, because we live in a hypocritical world where america are the biggest terrorist, obama run

out of bombs in his last year in office, 90% the bombs he did drop killed civilians, but somehow... "i'm still meant to be more scared of russia. this has gone on for years, it's like the russian ukraine war. brit, it was like, you know, we get take ukrainian refugees, take them in, put them in our spare room, you can have some money b. mean i believe all all human life is sacred, so but the palestinians, as you've just partited out are still seen as a terrorist. mit wallace partited out in the european parliament, he said, when the saying no, the hoothies are attacking, he said, the zionish regime are committing..." genocide in your worried about shipping roots. mean, the only thing i saw in the in the daily mirror was skim the papers every day, and one day it was like nothing about the um the reason that the hoothies were doing what they were doing, just the fact that we were going to be short of a york city. we live in a extremely twisted world where people who say palestinians are human

beings are seen as terrorists, whereas america and the zinanish regime. are allowed to slaughter children in front of the world, bomb hospitals and this evidence of this, mean the lies that get repeated about october the 7th that are lies that have been proven to be wise, dam cowin is a brilliant journalist, he's done a lot of investigation into it, they keep getting repeated, whereas actual like proven war crimes we're seeing get denied, it's like you say we just living this complete where america or literally saying to the world you can't believe your own eyes and russia got sanc sanctioned because basically america runs the world, we all know that, the un, 48, 48 times he blocked resolutions to help to to do anything about the the ongoing 76 plus year genocide against the palestinian people, so that's why we live in a white supremacist us control

world with uk behind him and the whole world, the only thing..." that's happened recently that's made me feel slightly better about is that the world is waking up to that because the amount of people go so yeah that's why because we live in a hypocritical well charlot okay well charlotte what is your perspective on the analysis that this is not just a war between palestinians on palestinians by the israeli regime but this is an existential war between easten west a distancing of the global south from the western hegemonic powers and the pendulums. swinging from a unipolar world to a multipolar world, your thoughts? i think that's very much in many ways accurate. if we look at october 7th, it's 100% accurate for us to say, that this battle did not begin on october 7th, after all, i mean, this has been taking place for over 75 years in the colonization of palestine has been proceeding for over 100 years, um, but at the same time

the fact is also that october 7th changed the world, because it presented the possibility of a future in which palestine could be free of zionism and the region could be free of us imperialism and its domination, and of course this is happening at the same time that there's a tremendous global... political and economic shift toward the rising power of china um in which russia was able to uh circumvent and dismiss the us sanctions and their allies against them and continue to maintain its economy um that this is move toward a multipolar world, this is move toward a toward a plural polar world and one the things that we are seeing in this genocide is the absolute panic and outrage of these criminal imper realist forces at the fact that they are losing their hegemonic grip on the region and the future of the world, and it's up to us to do everything

that we can to accelerate uh that future, because it's the only hope for humanity. well, some would say sarah, this the facade is actually over for the western hegemonic front, and it it is very dangerous time in many ways, because the western front continues to look at different way when all of this is taking place, and even fake it anymore, before there was a semblance of whatever you want to call it, democracy or fairness, but now they don't even really try to fake it. your thoughts on that? it's like you say, the one of the things that shocked me the most about this whole genocide is, like you say, we've faked it so well for so long, we always come across try to come across as the good guys, mean we all know anyone who actually knows the geopolitical and the actual history of... uk and us empires, but they've always at least kept up that facade of caring and now they're just so blatant about it, i mean soon at coming out

still and saying george galloway being democratically elected as attack on democracy and we're um just just the the fair mongering and i i've spoken to people and you aren't even politically involved in the saying you can see through it, i mean i saw a release there was a tiktok got released and it's uh as i the all this meeting and they said we're in serious trouble because the the basically the younger generation i'm not buying up to our brainwashing so yeah it's um okay i don't know why they feel safe enough i think it's because america have done what they've wanted for so long and america get away with basically being the biggest terrorist on the planet mean it's like all lives matter except libyan lives syrian lives afghani lives you know right? that question, i don't know why they're not faking it better anymore. okay, shall only have about a minute left, but in your perspective, is the resistance the only feasible option that can stop this genocide?

yeah, the resistance is the only option that is stopping this genocide. i mean, the palestini, the operation on october 7th was fundamentally action to stop 75 years of genocide, and the resistance is continuing to stop genocide not only in palestine, but around the region in... yemen, in lebanon, in syria, in iraq, and it's so critical for every one of us around the world to be part of an international forum of popular resistance that is also working to bring this genocide to an end. ladies, thank you for being with me. sarah, trazdel, charlotte, kates, appreciate you being with us right here on this program, and thank you viewers for being with us uh on another uh program right here, hopefully we'll see you right here, same time tomorrow on another spotlight. goodbye. abu hussein iraqi

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why the atomic bomb? why all the power? you scientists are bliring for the weapons to be used? killing innocent people to get what? this is for palestine after michael gove, the uk's secretary of state for leveling up, announced the government's redefinition of extremism, we'll be examining the implications of his statement in this week's

show. we have effectively. interests using a think tank to talk to government and then the their views are then taken on by government by people who are appointed by government to come from the think tank itself. this new definition of extremism, it's not statutory um, but it doesn't mean that it won't have impact. this will have impact on the ground, of course it will. if you look at charities for example who are trying to host events with these organizations, they may have to jump through extra hurdles via the charity commission in terms of if you're inviting an extremist speaker and technically. will be on that list of extremist speakers.

the headlines, 169 days after the start of the genocidal war against the gaza strip, the number of palestinians killed surpasses 32,000. the united nations secretary general has called for immediate ceasefire in the gaza strip and the delivery of aid to palestinians in the besiest territory. and russia's president declares a day of morning and vows to punish whoever ordered the shooting at the concert hall.