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tv   SPOTLIGHT  PRESSTV  July 18, 2024 10:02pm-10:30pm IRST

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the israel minister itamar ben gavier has broken into the alasa mosk. this despicable act, however, was accompanied by statements that he made on the israel captives, which was insightful. he said that he hopes the captives would return without the pm netanhou giving in to agreeing to a seasfire plan. this points to how the regime was never sincere. in wanting to agree to a cease fire
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in the first place. well in this edition of the spotlight we will look at different aspects of this uh genocidal onslot such as us banned weapons, israely shortage of tanks and ammunition, israely regime store closures, the state's military skirmishes with hezballah in the north and the regime passing a law opposing a palestinian state. first let me introduce our guests. lasha mac, journalists and political analyst joins us from brussels. also joining us is mc nap of here, co-founder of the scottish palestine solidarity campaign who joins us from glasgow uk. gentleman, welcome, i'll start with you. of elijah magniers, it's good to see you. we're looking at this visit by bengavier. he uh, went there to pray for the return of israeli captives from gaza, is one of the things that he said. now, his uh, visit, if you want to call it, which many don't call it that, they even go as far as calling it descoration, um, is to judeas. uh the uh norm for that, which
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is supposed to be for muslims only, but be what he said about the captives uh where he said uh he wanted to make sure that the israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu does not give into pressure on signing this prisoner swap deal as he called it uh does that mean do you think that uh they are not sincere overall when it comes to cease fire agreements? thank you for having me, israel has never been sincere under prime minister benyamin netanyahu. about respecting any deal with the palestinian resistance to end this war. i remember and we all remember in may when hamas agreed upon the cease fire deal presented by the israelis and the americans and immediately the response came from benyamin netanyahu occupying rafah and then after that president joe biden presented another plan, he called it this is an israel.
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plan and hamas never disagreed, on the contrary, it has agreed on the main line of the plan, and then benjamin netanyahu rejected it, and then we hear from benyamin netanyahu very clearly,ness yesterday, saying the military pressure is forcing hamas to give more concession that we imagined before, so what he's talking about is he's talking about the more killing. the civilians, children and women, mainly, destroying the tents and assassinating more, trying to assassinate more militants or civilians in the street, and because of hamas is feeling for the palestinian population and wanting to show the population that actually it is not its position this preventing a c fire, but every time we agreed on something, it is netanyahu is being down, and thinking that
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this is a position of weakness, when the resistance has not shown any weakness throughout the nine month of war and did never raise a white flag, then now it is clear that the more they agree any seas fire, benyamin netanhu is going to reject it and continue the war because he said the objectives are to defeat hamas and to kill every single militant no matter what level of leadership he has even if it's a simple militant and continue the war and remain in gaza, which is totally against any agreement presented by the israelis or the americans, so what bv is saying today is exactly the reflection of what prime minister benyamin netanyahu has been doing in the last nine month, and the last thing they want is to exchange all the captives with the palestinian resistance, because they don't care about them, they just want to...
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continue the war, continue destruction of gaza and continue killing civilians because they are unaccountable. well, let's perhaps get an idea from you mcnap here about what is really going on when it comes to the... situation on the ground there, mean um, you know, israel may be thinking or maybe is saying that it is, as our guest there said, that hamas is giving up concessions that had never thought that they would give before, but then we hear reports of how there's shortages of tanks that they've been destroyed by the hamas resistance fighters and other resistance groups in the gaza strip, a shortage of ammunition, and we're also hearing that there's shortage of regime forces where the first batch of draft... have gone out to the what are they called theem and the conscription notices have gone out for these orthodox men for the first time thousand of them and also for female israel forces so what is the deal? can you make out footing the is that comes militarily? yes, i
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don't think there's too much new in terms of israeli long-term military practice, the the extreme maybe. but israel has long had what it what it's high command calls and which is openly discussed in israel, the dagha doctrine named after suburb, a southern suburb of beirot, and the dahia doctrine basically is that if anyone resists the israeli military machine, they will exact massive civilian casualties and destroy the basic necessities of life, water, electricity, suwage and so on, this isn't a conspiracy theory, the dagha doctrine is a doctrine, it's been openly discussed and adopted by the israeli military, and more importantly we see it being carried out in gaza, where unable to defeat the fighters, as far as we can tell, unable to defeat the
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fighters, as they were unable to defeat lebanese fighters, lebanese resistance in 2006, they they respond by trying to kill very, very large number of civilians and you know it's not even particularly really, it's the whole history of colonial of european colonialism worldwide has been to exact a terrible price uh for resistance by killing very very large numbers of of the of the colonized population, so israel fits into that tradition and sees itself as fitting into that tradition uh and and its behavior in gaza is is simply an extension of that and in terms of the the israeli um captives who have been held by by by the palestinian resistance since october, the israelies will always sacrifice jews um when it comes to a clash between their interest and the core interests of the israeli state, the israeli
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state um, if necessary will sacrifice the interests of jews, and this has been the case, even before the birth of the state the zionist movement would ally and support people who were slaughtered. jews because it facilitated the setting up of the state, and we see that in 1917, we see 1944 in in hungary, and we've seen it since then that in a in a choice between representing the interests of real jews living in countries around the world, or the israeli state, the israeli state will easily um sacrifice the interest of jews, so the the israeli captives, i don't, i think the palestinian resistance may have thought that the israelis would... would have to negotiate much more than they've been ready to do, but it seems they're quite ready to see the sacrifice the captives in the interest of of defeating hamas, they're no longer closer to that and they will continue and are continuing daily and exact a massive prision and the killing of civilians, but it ain't new, it's part of
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a long israeli tradition and that itself is part of much wider tradition european colonialism. okay, well let's move to another um... i guess news that has uh now passed in the israeli parliament elijah magnier and that's about how they have uh uh passed uh i guess bill opposing a palestinian state they have actually branded it as an existential threat and this comes ahead of visit by the prime minister benjam to washington uh why do you think they have passed the bill to that effect is it because they are the setting grounds not they haven't before but setting the ground to go into fast uh maybe speed into taking over the... entire occupied land? i think that was one of the best news i ever heard since 1948, regarding palestine, because it puts an end to the hypocrisy of the americans and the israelis calling for a potential two-state solution, when this has
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never been on the table. the 1977 likut party manifest states exactly that the presence of any palestinian on the israeli. land is a threat to the israeli national security, which is exactly in its exact words, the knesset law has passed today, so the israelies have been very honest about it. and they've been very honest in saying we don't want any palestinian to live on the land that we have occupied and conquer and then all the oslo agreement and all this shirad that went ons in 1993, oslo one 1995, oslo2, it's crumbled in 1999 when no palestinian state was given to the palestinian according to the agreement and then we hear about the abraham accord and then re... conciliation and the recognition of the israeli as a nation and as
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a state, when it is an uppertide regime that has occupied a land that doesn't belong to the israeli zionis and then we see the americans pushing for tous say solution and then before the visit just few days before the visit benyamin netanyahu goes to the knesset, 68 members of the knesset agreed including benny gants. and the rapid in the opposition left because he didn't want to show that he also supported, everybody in israel refuses two state solution, it is time for all the people in the middle east and around the world, either they want to do something about it, which is not recognize israel as a state and recognize israel as an appetite regime that has stolen state a state the palestinians and then reject. or they close their eyes as they have done at the americans have done twice at the united
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nations vatoing the recognition of palestine as a state and this puts also an end to all the palestinies who think that the americans are good partners for peace and then there is a possibility to have a peace with the israelis and what they have done today is they have confirmed the choice of the palestinian resistance that talking to the israelis is waste of time and the israelis what the what they want to do and they are saying it without lying that after gaza they're going to turn their guns to the west bank where there is a palestinian authority that's still telling the palestinians that they believe one day going to have a state well today the israelies are saying no you will not have inch of your own territory so this i think it's a good lesson for the palestinians and for all the resistance
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forces in the middle east to understand that resisting israel was they were on the right path, they were on the right course, and now it is time for all those palestinians who think that the peace with israel is possible one day, then it is time for them to understand that only by armed resistance they can recover their territory, and that is the biggest favor. the knesset has render to the palestinian cause today. do you go with that mcnapier? well, i think illusions are very dangerous and real illusions, if you just if you're just walking about and you have you suffer from illusions, it's a dangerous condition, and the illusion that israel would ever conceive one square inch of palestinian land uh to be a palestinian state is uh is fanciful. it's... belied in in several different ways, one everything israely say
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um, i think ariel charon, preceded ben gavier in violating the alaxa mosk so many years ago, ariel charon is quoted in the israeli parliament sorry in the israeli cabinet by a colleague evam as saying only good arab is dead arab, he wasn't being original, that's that quotes lifted from the american west, but supplied to israel as well, that's always been the view of huge chunk of um of dionist movement that the only good arab is is a an arab who's been expelled or being killed or being or being reduced to to to massively inferior status, so their own words tell you if anyone wants to listen that the palestinians have no partner for peace at all, they never had, um some of the science use soft words, but ben cavier is being strikingly honest and he's embarrassing. the other zionists who believed the same as him, but they wish to they wish to approach the
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the expulsion of palestinians and the slaughter in a slower scale than than ben does, but the second way in which the thing is is is shown to being nonsensial is the behavior of the israelis and in 48 they were given just over half, they took almost 80% of palestine, they seized the rest in 67, they've been building settlements ever since and making it very clear, and a couple of years ago... passed for those who really did not want to face the truth, he passed the israeli nation state law, which said that only jews, and that can mean jews living in my city here in glasgow. jews in australia, but only jews have any political rights, have political rights to self-determination in palestine, and palestinians living there, citizens of israel or otherwise, have no, do not enjoy those rights, so it was very clearly an apart uh declaration of intent or or description of reality, um and and and was
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embarrassing for western government, but i think it seems almost impossible to... for them to continue on this tight rope, but even though the israelis are now saying yet again that there's no possibility of a palestinian state as long as israel exists, it's difficult to see western governments giving up this fantasy, because the talk of two-state solution is an alleby for doing nothing uh to support the palestinians while funneling weapons, political economic support to israel, and and the third thing, the third way that gives lie to it is "you know, in the history of of settler colonialism like israel, um, in the beginning the settlers are weak and feeble and they need, they rely utterly on on the colonial power, the imperial power to support them against the native people, who could easily kick them out, but as they become stronger, they develop the idea, and this is true in america
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in 1776, it's true in argentina, it's true in many countries, as they call as the settlers become strong." they think they can dispense with imperial protection, so they dispensed with britain in 1948, and it may be that they think, not they can dispense with american protection, but i think they think that their hold on american politics is so tight that whatever they do, there will still be an airlift of weapons and dollars from washington to tel aviv, and you know it's worth saying in in passing that the current situation is a massive defeat. the idea of zionism, because zionism sold itself to to european powers and then to america as attack dog, as powerful uh state in the region that could intimidate all his natives and be an asset, but now it seems that it cannot fight even the gaza resistance with nowhere to to to retreat to without an airlift of american bombs and weapons and so on, so far from
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being an asset, it seems that in order for israel to survive, it can't fight a war even against hamas. with this massive disadvantages without billions from america and an airlift of weapons, so it seems that - prinism has failed and failed in the eyes of those created it, uh, but it will exact terrible cost, and actually it should be said in passing, they not only insist on every square inch of palestine, but many of them have appetites further east, and there's open discussion in the in the israeli political system, not just um to to... to to to uh no longer need the services of the palestinian authority, but also perhaps to uh to remove the jordanian monarchy uh because it no longer serves its purpose either, so it seems that they've reach, they think they've reached the stage, i think they may be wrong, they think they've reached the stage, well they can pretty much do what they want, and i
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think you keep on spitting in the american government, which seems very very bizarre, but i think they thought they can do it because of their hold on congress, well uh, what are we looking at then when it comes to the americans and when it comes to the um to the to europeans? um, are we looking now a different uh approach that they're going to have towards israel that to, mean at this point the kineset has passed this, um, so uh, what about peace uh negotiations or any of that, is that out the window? well, it has always been out of the window, because if we even look at the oslo agreement per say, "it has never given the palestinians the right to have access to air, sea and land without going through the israeli control. moreover, all the money that comes to the palestinian, it has to go through the israeli government, the taxes that the palestinians are paying, they have to go through the israeli government, and this is where the finance
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minister bizel smaltric is all the time cutting pieces of all this money, we're talking about. more than 6 billion dollars in 10 years because the israelis have the control and the palestinians have nothing, so advocating for fake to state solution was only kind of morphine to give to the palestinians and to give the choice of uh for the palestinian to reject the peace with israel and showing them a model in the west bank that has never worked. and the europeans and the americans, in particular, the democrats, who used to be known for advocating for two state solutions, today they receive a big hit on their head because benyamin netanyahu is saying, all the mask are dropped and it is the end of hypocrisy. we don't want palestinians ever, not one
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palestinian, because that represent a danger to the national security of israel. now for that, netanyahu, because he is an accountable, he he has killed and wonded more than 130,000 palestinian in nine months because he is unaccountable. "the west that are allies with israel and the americans have not managed to put pressure on israel, either because they don't want or they count, the therefore their opinion doesn't count. today, netanyahu is saying, regardless all the decision that some european countries have taken in recognizing palestine as a state, how that can be translated on the ground, here in israel, the palestinians will have..." no right to exist, and that is final for benjamin netanyahu, so the europeans are spineless, they execute the american policy, america is walking along the israelies,
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they're telling the world one thing, and then they use the veto at the united nations for any decision that is in favor of two palestinian state, president mahmoud abbas, because the americans are happy with him, it means that he is not the right person to represent the american, the... palestinians, because anyone that is supported by the americans is supported by the israel, which mean it is counterproductive for the interest the palestinian, and that has been translated, this is not an opinion today, the knesset said no to the palestinian state, it did not trigger any reaction from the americans apart from saying where this is very worring, and of course this is something that we need to look at carefully, they never said we stand against israel, they never said we're going to go to united nation and recognize palestine as a state, on the contrary, they still fighting alabai and excuses for netanyahu who is challenging
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america and who is blowing up what remains of the abraham accord because everybody was waiting for saudi arabia join and saudi arabia said with two state solutions i will join in, but it doesn't mean saudi arabia did not maintain good relationship with the israelis and allow israeli visit. to this the saudi territory, so in this case today, netanyahu is putting in in a corner those who did not yet normalize with israel, and we're talking about saudi arabia in the first place, and he's saying you will normalize with or without a palestinian state, because there will not be a palestinian state here, thank you so much for that, elijah magnier, journalist and political analyst from brussels, make nappier, co-founder scottish palestine solidarity campaign, thank you to you. with that we can end for this edition of the spotlight from me coverway and the teams, goodbye, in the land where the rightes
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took a stand with freedom in his hands for justice and for liberty he fought with might against the dark. oppressive night, they wronged him, left his kind to first, in the cruelest thunder pain was cursed, baby's cry, the freak on dark ears innocence, broke the heart, sayings are true, covelous every land, and nashura forever will stand, don't think it ended with musain's last breath, or his infants crying. at the edge of death, whose saints fight our guiding lines injustice
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falls to endless night, from kabala to palestine, in every land his spirit shines, today in palestine, infants fall to the echos of ash was call in first and hunger, oppressed they lie underneath a relentless sky, the spears that struck hussein, back then, other rockets raining down again, the stones once cast with cruel disdain a bullets now causing endless pain, lusin lives on his path still clear a fight for justice without. fear, in this journey no side unchosen, for neutrality means the oppressers are in bolden, whoose sayings fight our god. private
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lines injustice falls to inless night, from kalala to palestine, in every land his spirit shines, they choose path in his noble way, with hussein spirit we fight today, for freedom, justice and humanity, we stand with him. and solidarity.
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headlines: israel indiscriminate strikes kill more palestinians across gaza, as the total death b nears 38,500. palestinian factions have condemned as invalid israels resolution that rejects the palestinian people's right to establish. state and the leader of yemensola movement is called on all muslims around the world to age an alath war on israel over the raging genocidal campaign against palestinians.
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