keeping you up to date with world news every half hour on press tv. hello and welcome to press tv spotlight. i'm marica hashim. thanks so much for being with us. the zist general sido onslot against palestinians continues. during the past day only 75 more palestinians were killed and over 200 others injured. the deliberate and consistent killing of women and children. the regime modus operandai, mo continues as well as the psychological torture of civilians in han uni team gave evacuation orders and then

immediately bombed the people, giving them no time escape. it appears the only way these sadistic attacks by the regime will end is through the continued fighting by the resistance front. i'd like to welcome my guests to the program. mick napier, co-founder scottish palestine solidarity campaign out of glasgow, and shabir razwi, political and... yes out of london. well, thank you both for being with me. i'm going to start this off with mick. what does it mean for the regime to issue an evacuation order in conunist for 400 thousand people and then almost immediately bomb them? i mean, it's difficult to find the words to describe such extreme situations. i find it difficult to find. the words, but it's it's an example

of the kind of full spectrum barbarism of the israeli military, but in the past they killed very large numbers of palestinians, but they tried to draw some kind of veil over it by trying to appear uh as democratic, civilized against uncivilized people. it was always disgusting, but now it seems that they're just openly, openly barbaric. we know that individual soldiers and has to come from their officers, film themselves committing terrible crimes and post them onto the internet, that sense of shame which was residually there in the past is no longer there, and i think the same goes for the for the israeli government, they seem to want the world at this stage to know that they're savages, that they are capable of great atrocities, and anything that helps to do that, they hope will help to intimidate all the people of the... least that israel is

somebody that you cannot resist, so i think the salvage is deliberate, um, the deliberate killing after after suggesting that people be safe is a particular horrible form of torture, but it fits together into the overall pattern, that israel uses massive violence against palestinians in order to detair i, to terrorize, not just palestinians, but those who would come to their aid from yemen, syria, lebanon. etc. so it's a it's a it seems on the surface to be sort of individually psychotic, but it it's in the nature of settler colonial state and israel is surrounded by vast numbers, hundreds of millions of of potential opponents, that it has to instill terror into them, and this has been a constant since the founding of the state of israel, the barbaric massacre of palestinians and others, almost a in public, but now it's fully in public, yeah, now... watching it live unfortunately

every day, well i guess if it's going to happen, at least seeing it gets the word out of the reality of that entity, well shabir, you in report states that the whole population of gaza is facing a looming famine with more kids dying from starvation, i mean what does that mean for the united nations to issue reports but not really to do anything to stop this? thank you very much, good evening, firstly adolences to all marters in uh gaza and the west bank, south lebanon and other places during this period of tragedy and the industrial level of killing that is taking place particularly in gaza and also we pray for the survivor of all those who have been injured. look, what is clear as our guess from scotland has pointed out that this particular entity. does not care, is not

interested and will continue to do whatever they are doing with complete impunity, and the reason is that, washington, london, paris, and some of the members of the collective west have given it a sort of an open checkbook, a cod blanch, do whatever you like, kill as many people as you want, kill whoever you like, whether the united nations employees, uh, journalists, doctors, nurses, you name it, uh, all individuals of this particular sort of. of professions which have been killed, murders and sort of really brutally killed in in sort of broad daylight if you like, for all of us to see, but the zionist entity does not bother, because it

feels that it has complete, as i said, impunity from any repercussions, whether it's the united nations or the international court of justice or... uh uh the criminal court decides whatever they do, but really they're not interested in listening. the only way, as chairman ma quite eloquently put it, victory only comes through a barrel, barrel of a gun, and that's the only language i think the zionist entity understands and it has done this continuously for the last 76 years since this inception, this is of... obviously what has happened in the last nearly nine months is an extraordinary level of killing as again our friend pointed out that this is really to intimidate everyone in that region that if you do anything to israel we will kill as

many of you as you like, but people are not in intimidated, certainly the people in gaza and west bank are not intimidated, that's the... reason they have continued to struggle against this monstrous killing machine from tel aviv and they will do so because they have clearly said that you know this is an opportunity, this is the time when the oppressed that region will be victorious and the only way that they will continue, the other reason obviously so much killing is taking place in gaza is that the talavif. entity feels that by killing civilians they will rebell against the so-called uh hamas terrorist in gaza, but that hasn't happened in the last nine months and the the the access of resistance on all fronts is really

supporting the oppressed of gaza. okay, well mick, i mean it has been over nine months since the sunslot, and officially at least 39,00 people have been killed, however the... actual number is suspected to be so much higher with a lanset report even suspecting nearly uh 200,000 direct and indirect fatalities, so um our guests in london just talked about the collective west and and basically um this blind support for the regime, my question is, how can they just watch this many people being slaughtered and why continue giving this type of blind support to the zionist regime? "i think the answer to that question lies not in any special conditions attached to israel, although there are some, but in the fact that europe, france, germany, belgium, italy, spain, um, have committed terrible genocides

around the world for for more than the last century, um, and and and the nature of the animal hasn't changed, although they have now begun, although they have now become..." the european union, these are countries which have a long tradition of massive uh extermination of of whole peoples, the killing of millions of people in bengal, in ireland in uh and and and you central south america, africa and so on. the history of belgium in africa is so disgusting that it's almost difficult to describe. um, so so this is a long tradition, and you ask why why and how can the european powers in america and australia and new zealand and so on, look at what's going on in gaza and not feel impel to do anything, because they are part of what the newly elected rector of glasgow university, rasan abusita, a palestinian elected recently with 80% of the vote from

the students there, what rasan says is axis of genocide, we shouldn't talk about these states allowing israel to do what it wants, these states are part of a coalition of genocide, it's american bombs and high explosives which are being dropped on the people of gaza, and it seems, according to many experts, israel could not continue anything like the level it is at the moment if these munitions were to be stocked, so i think israel gets away with it, because these countries have a similar history themselves and reared if you like, this child, this attack dog in the region to perform the service which is now performing, which is to to to be an outpost of europe in the middle east, latterday crusader state, but you know israel still hasn't won a war for very, very long. time, they did not win in lebanon in 2006, they're not winning in gaza at the

moment, they have not intimated uh the yemenis, the huties in yemen, um, and the the key quality which israel needs more than water and food, the key, the key quality it needs is the ability to terrorize, israel calls it the deterent edge, and that deterrant edge is slipping away, and and as it slips away, produces a crisis inside zionism um and and i think it signals the possibility of the beginning of the end of design this entity. okay, interesting points that you just made mick and i want to pick up on some of his points shabir talking about the access of genocide, and of course the history of the europeans in general is a dark history of colonization, however we know that they usually try to gloss over this image and... and now today, when everything is being filmed and shown live, um, it would

appear that uh, after seeing what happening in gaza and the outrage in general in the world, and of course the regime not being successful with its goals, that uh, some of these entities, european entities would start to trying distancing themselves, because as mix said, the sign starting to be much more clear that this is probably the beginning of the end for... regime, indeed, and the term the access of genocide, i think should be promoted more regularly, just like israel, the zionist entity like to put itself the most moral army, total boroni if you like, there is morality in the israeli offensive force, so we should start using the term acces of genocide to describe australia, new zealand, usa, the european union, the... which is now because most of its nations have blood on their hand over the last few

centuries, as as our panelist from scotland quite eloquently described, but look, the matter of the fact is that the european nations and also before mr. biden decided not to run for election was supposedly distancing. himself from designist entity, but the reality is that these are all words which have not been actually action by any meaningful way. what i mean by that is, it's good to you have the vocabulary and the language to say that israel is being naughty to say the least and try to sort of portray is the zionist entity in some way a par state, but effective. by still supplying uh bombs uh usa continues to supply between 60

and 70% of armment to the zionist entity. germany does around 25%. we here in uk say that we supply very little but we give lot of technical support to the zionist entity. as you well now when uh iran launched attack as response to what the zionist entity did to its diplomats in syria uh who was supporting design, it was usa and britain with their aeroplanes trying to shoot down the rockets coming from from iran together with jordan, so nice words don't mean anything until concrete action is taken unless entity sanctioned, and we see in in the sort of olympics taking place in in in paris that israel is participating with full uh... while belarus and russia are not allowed to compete under their own flag, so one sees the total

hypocrisy and double talk that takes place in capitals of europe and and and and washington. right, interesting points about the hypocrisy, and speaking of the hypocrisy, i mean make another journalist has been killed in the latest attack in gaza, now the number of media people have been killed that october has reach at least 163. i mean, shabir just talked about hypocrisy. i i want to talk about journalists right now, especially those from the western hegemonic front. i mean, there's no outcry, very little being said, as one of their... own journalists are being killed constantly um in gaza and and they're not saying anything and they're the ones that wave the flag of free press and we believe in the having the right to report and uh not be endangered so why the silence from this group? is this address to me? yes um yeah very dramatic events mean i

think what maybe 200 um palestinian journalists have been killed, are now dead, but journalism in palestine is very much alive, but journalism in britain in the mainstream media is dead, dead, completely dead, and a very disciplined messaging service uh conveys that if russia kills a couple of ukrainians, it's an abominable atrocity, if israel tries to kill a resistance fighter and kills 90 uh... palestinians in the vicinity, this is an unfor, this is possibly not true, but if it's true, it's an unfortunate accident, and israel clearly couldn't deliberately try to kill civilians, so the the media is extremely powerful, but the good news is it's not working, public opinion has shifted even more substantially against israel than has been

the case for decades, so the hypocrisy is just fact, how can they how can they speak truly? can they apply the same criteria to their friends uh they apply to their to their opponents? it's it's not possible. so that's just the fact of life. mean, i think when you have the international court of justice saying that israel faces a plausible charge of geneside. some people don't, some people may not use the word plausible, but probable, probably true. then things are shifting against israel very substantially. on the one hand you can say given the long history. of european genocides against people outside europe, the whole of the 20th century marked with it. you could, you could conclude that there is no such thing as international law. after all, nobody protected million algerians from being killed, or 3 million vietnamese or or 3 million bengalis under british control.

there was no protection, you could say there's no, but this edifice of international law. has been erected by america and britain and their allies in order to pretend that they are uh systems ruled by law, they are benign as opposed to their maligne enemies and i think it's important to say that this is this is sing off the branch on which they are sitting, and i think the fact that the the icj and the icc have have made these rulings makes it possible for not the united, not the un security council, but what happened with south africa? "the un security council defended apartide south africa till the very end, but it was the un general assembly which couldn't expel them, but could virtually expel them and could and could isolate israel in a way. now what's key for israel is moral. israel needs to feel they are european civilized people against asian savages, that's the whole basis of zionism.

it's a racist, supremacist idea if europeans and others..." begin to isolate israel, to expell them from sports, to expell them from culture, this will have a damaging effect on israelial, and that's one contribution we can make to palestinian liberation, very proud of the fact that our small campaign has meant that the biggest arts festival in the world in edinburha has not had any israeli participation for 10 years, when they come we kick them out and we will continue to do so, that needs to be replicated worldwide, and that can damage... the z the moral of the zionist block and do something to maintain the moral of the palestinians under genocide, right? indeed, indeed. well, when you said that, actually, make it reminded me of actually the iranians who, for example, with uh, in sports that they have not uh been playing against an israeli individual or team

since the beginning of the revolution, if it was uh, if it came about they would boy it, it would be great to see that happening in the up. olympics in paris that individuals from various countries uh would take that on. what about that shabir, what mick said, i mean putting more pressure on the israelis and other countries too, i mean do you think that that can have an effect and pressuring the regime? well, indeed it would, as as our friend from scotland pointed out that design entity itself to be european. so-called democracy and human rights and moral values and all the sort of nice words that it uses to describe itself if it's sort of not allowed to parties. participate in olympics, in culture, in academic exchanges, music, festivals and the whole area of investments,

which is actually even more powerful if you not investing in sort of zionist entities or those companies that are supporting zionist entity, just to give you one illustration, the 1.6 trillion dollar sovereign fund of no has stopped investing in israeli and zionist entities, plus the churches in norway have also divested from caterpillar, because as we know caterpillar is one of the main machines which has been used to demolish homes in the west bank and and gaza, and of course the the the girl corey who was killed by caterpillar some years ago, as you well know, so of course there are... multiple things that can be accomplished by uh isolating entity for let me just jump in here buse i'm just about out of time but is there anything besides the

resistance front that ultimately will bring it in to this oppression and this regime in your take here well i think it's really the access of resistance which will defeat the axis of genocide i can't see the western nation. america and its allies have any moral fiver, as we have discussed that they have a history of genocide, therefore really they can't do anything other than uh keep quiet and just say nice words and not really do anything, and it's only through the axis of resistance that the demise of the zionist entity would be visible to all of us in not to distance the future, and of course as mata musa sadr. describe the zianist entity as israel is the absolute evil in our logic, and when evil is there, it needs to be defeated.

and on that note, i think both of you were being with me on this spotlight. mc napier, co-founder palestine solid campaign out of glasgow, shabir political analys out of london. and thank you viewers for staying with us for another spotlight. hashimi, hope to see you right here next time. goodbye. unyielding resolve, look into the tumultuous life of joster arafat, the palestinian leader who dared sit at the negotiation table with israel only to face broken promises and shattered dreams. witness his lifetime tour from fighter to a diplomat and again from a diplomat to fighter to save palestine. this

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israeli occupation forces killed at least 75 more palestinians across the gaza strip in one day. another convoy of the un agency for palestinian refugees comes under an eye f attack on the way to gaza city, doctors without borders complained about the lack of protection for people in sudan who have been exposed to 15 months of violence and torture.