of palestinian factions were in china today signing national unity agreement that aims to maintain palestinian control over gaza once israel genocidal war there comes to an end, now the deal was finalized after three days of intensive talks and will hopefully pay the way for an international reconciliation government to rule post war gaza. amentime netanyahu is in washington dc now seeking further support to carry on with his ethnic cleansing a palestinians in gaza and the west bank. welcome to the spotlight. i'm your host behruz. are our guests in this episode,

executive director of the center for islamic law and human rights in karache, also with us is sad nem, professor of political science at the bersage university in ramalaw. all right, welcome to the show, gentlemen, let me start ' with my guest in karache, moaz shah, one of the palestine officials in china has elaborated on this agreement reached today, there are four main elements, the establishment of international unity government, the formation of unified palestinian leadership, free election of new palestinian national council and a general declaration of unity in the face of the israely attacks going on these days. now i want to ask your opinion about the...

significance of this deal reached today by palestinian factions? oh, it's, thank you for having me on this important topic, it's absolutely an amazing turn of events, and the reason why i say that, particularly on the heal of the international criminal icj's ruling, which basically has thrown the entire situation back to what the oic and all the muslim nations around the world have been clinging to, is that the 9 1967 and the illegal israeli setlements that have gone on, all that has to actually empty out, and with the palestinians coming together, this was actually one of the excuses that was often used by other parties who wanted to break it up, that you know there's not a unified front, you have hamas and gaza, and you have in the west bank the plo, this always became a fractured point that actually caused issues and people said who do we talk to now for.

them to come and importantly here, this is very important point in china, so china has stepped up to bring a new kind of angle to this game with mediator, now china is possessing itself in a way that it is mediating the palestinian factions to come together, particularly in light of this recent icj ruling, this is really something that i don't think was expected, but then at the same time it was naturally bound to happen with the situation and pressure building up um you know, particularly when we have the united states as well stepping back, we know this last week, they step back from that gaza pier uh, which was kind of like a half-hearted effort to try to get aid into the into the region, so this gave a space particularly for china to step up and has been stepping up globally, not just on the palestinian issue uh to become some sort of mediator and to be able to gather all the factions there, i mean we could have easily seen this thing happen in qatar, but it it was not as meaningful. "and i think this is

something that's very important that we have major superpower trying to mediate this effort, and i don't think china is going to let this die down as something insignificant, so that's why i think it's extremely important this happen in beijing and this beijing declaration, it does have its challenges, no doubt about it, because there's a lot of history, but i think there's so much sacrifice that the palestinian people have gone through in the last few months that this is new chapter that we're looking at. okay, now professor remember observers uh argue." that palestinian unity and this move directed at unity government is especially in important and that's because it blocks israely efforts to create some sort of collaborative structure against palestinian interests. your take on this please. good evening to you and your guest from karache and to all your viewers. you know this issue became very very complicated. let me, well, i think that your guest in karachi a little bit optimist about. it and i do agree with them,

because that what we want by the end of the day, that all palestinians to be united in front of what's going today in gaza and for the rehabilitation of gaza later. on, this is something yes we do agree with and we do like it, but let me just give you the reflection the palestinian people, especially this day after yesterday of this meeting, um, they are very skeptical, because this is not the first meeting, this is you know they were in moscow, they were in cairo, they were in qatar, they were so many times we have these meetings and we end up with nothing, maybe this time will be different, i hope that they are. to be different, but the main issue here, which i would like to bring your attention to, that when we are talking about unification of the palestinian and reconciliation, we are talking about two major elements here, which is hamas and fatih, while hamas and islamic jihad and

other factions representing the palestinian resistance and considered by the israelis, american and the european as terrorist organization, and we are... working on the other hand, the palestinian authority represented by fatih and some other factions on the other hand who are still thinking about you know going into negotiation with israel and maybe also try to get some somewhere with the idea of the two state solution. now unless fateh and the palestinan authority understand that there are different there are some changes happening. in the whole world, not only on the palestinian side, after 7th of october, it will be really, really very hard, and they are not going to go on, because already the american and the israeli are not happy with this meeting and they are criticizing the palestinian authority, adding to that that

israel said, we don't even want the palestinian authority to be to be in gaza after the end of the war, however let me just add this, israel can't determine what's going on on the ground, because by the end of the day they didn't win this war in the first place to determine what's going on in gaza, so to say that hamas shouldn't be there, who are you to say that? you didn't defeat hamas or the palestinian resistance there, you didn't end them, and plus we have to add that hamas is not only as israel would like to to see as a military organization, this is al-qassan brigade, maybe they gave them a few few punches here and there during this this genocidal battle, but at the same time hamas is a profound part of the palestinian people, it's hamas, the the public opinion about it, the the support for it, it it's it's too

much, it's neither israel or america or anyone else could say that we will exclude exclude hamas, they can't say that, palestinian in west bank. should understand that and especially i'm talking about fat and the palestinian leadership should understand that and should work with hamas together and to say that that's it, we are going to have this unity government for all the palestinian factions, the 14 of them, and in such case we have like more than 90% support of all the palestinian people to say we are the one who is going to run the show, not israel, not the americans, that's right professor, and and we hear that it said that all the four factions who have signed this agreement, they will have the representative in that uh council to govern post gaza. hopefully things will go smooth and lot. shah, the fact that palestinian factions have come to consensus, several times there were bits, they failed, this time, it's never been like this, and hopefully it will continue as it is. so this

is another failure for the televiv regime's war machine, isn't it? because palestinian groups are saying it's this very genocidal war on the gaza strip. that's motivated them to set aside their differences and get together and come to this agreement. yeah, absolutely, and i think uh, absolutely professor was very true on this that this has happened a lot and there was many efforts, even when the election happened after that 2007, there were efforts and of course they failed, but the circumstances were not the same, the the challenges that we look at now that this has taken nine months. into this, tens of thousands of palestinian lives have been sacrificed, so the situation is particularly different than it has been before. number one, number two, i think what's really interesting that i emphasized in my initial reaction, was the involvement of china and beijing, and i think that is

extremely important here, because china has a bigger cloud to kind of ensure this to push it to go through, and i think that's something that we are, we need to count and take into consideration that china has never done something. like this, it's given comments, it's going supporting statements, maybe even some aid, but it has never tried to politically try to enter the zone and try to mediate the solution out of this, and that i think is extremely. important in this case scenario and why i think that we really need to pay att okay unfortunately we had this technical problem i'm not sure if we have m shop back uh do you hear me we don't hear yes i hear you but i'm just kind of reiterating the fact that china's role yeah yes go ahead yeah, i'm not just sorry, yeah, so i'm saying that this is the significant thing that i'm

emphasizing that china's role in this is what's really significant, it's a global superpower, it has more cloud, it has more political cards to play with with all the indirect players as well, so those who are putting their pressure tactics or supporting israel, china now has leverage, and i think this is what's really important uh in this in this case scenario versus the past okay, now uh professor given to fact that netanyahu is said to have no plans actually for post war, post gaza governance, and for which has been criticized you, even by his own inner circle and officials, so given this, what do you see on the horizon uh, in terms of this palestine agreement recently reached, how do you see what's future holding for palestinians post gaza war? yeah, well i think the israeli do have something in their mind about the next day in gaza, and there was a plan set by

gallant, the defense minister in israel or the war minister if you like, in in israel, but netanyahu refused it at that time, now they he accepted it now, and last thursday there was a secret meeting in abu dhabi in in the emirates between the americans, the israelis and the emiratis and that was... was just last thursday and it was secret meeting as they said, but it was some of the elements were exposed about what was going on, the idea for israel now is to bring the emirates and some other arab countries forces uh to gaza uh no hamas at all and even they don't want the palestinian authority also to be in in gaza and the arab this arab troops coming to gaza. in order to arrange the situation in gaza for creating a new government in gaza to

rule gaza and to you know arrange the situation in gaza and to restart or start the rehabilitation of gaza. now this kind of news is coming also before that, we heard that many times and israeli expressed these kind of ideas that they don't want the palestinians, particularly neither the palestinian. authority in ramalah nor the hamas or the palestinian resistance to rule in hamas in in gaza or to have anything to do with it in gaza and they want to bring these arab countries uh the the idea is also talking about egyptian troops as well as jordanian troops in addition to the qatari, the emarati troops and maybe saudi, but i don't i don't think that they will participate, so the idea here is that these forces will replace the... israeli army in order to eliminate or to finish the idea that hamas might be again controlling gaza, that's

the idea from netanyahu's point of view, and again i go to say that he didn't win this war yet to say that he could you know determine what's going on in gaza, and i believe that the people of gaza and especially the resistance in gaza who they they are the one who was are going to say uh what's going after the war. "and now after the meeting in inchin, it's quite good, you to hear about the agreement between all the palestinian factions in spite of the skeptical situation, but i believe that this is the only answer that palestinian do determine, regardless of netanyahu, regardless of the americans, the palestinian should determine how to run things not only in gaza but also in the west bank, and to go later on for an..." actions and that will be you know the legitimate government regardless of anyone who's going

to say anything, this is the people voting for it, so i think that yes uh netanyahu is trying to, well even if he stopped the war to continue the atrocities against gaza and against the palestinians in general, because it's also going on in the west bank today, and the idea of of netanyahu is to end the palestinians and to end the palestinian cause. in general, so he is suggesting these kind of ideas, but i think that the prestinian resistance in gaza is still in its power and still there, and they could also say, whatever they wanted to say and they will show immediately after the war ended that they are still presents and uh the this war didn't finish them as netanyahu would wish or dream about. okay now netanyahu is in washington dc as we speak, so i want you repeating to uh general what the hell is doing there, i mean does it have to do

anything what the fact that president biden just uh stupped down is not running for reelection? harris is now going to do that, would it make any different in the first place, what is it doing there trying to get the uh more support to and more money and logistics, intelligence, whatever else that they need to uh push ahead with the genocide in gaza and maybe other issues as well, what's what's on your mind, would it make in a difference uh who takes the helm of the white house? yell, i think you're absolutely right, the reason... why he's there is because of biden and biden stepping down, this was completely unexpected, obviously harris is supposed to be uh the one that's tapped for the shoulder, there is obviously undo um public support in the polls that trump is now most likely going to seal the deal, so the situation has only transpired in america in a different way, and i think that's the reason why netanyahu is there to

see if he can scramble to grab something, especially because last week like i said the americans uh pulled out on that halfward. effort of the peer uh that pier that they were making in gaza um that aid peer, they they cancelled the plans for that, and that was something that biden had spoke about, biden was very basiciously saying this raffa is the red line, and now maybe netanyahu is there to see if the red line has changed and can he go in, can he push the issue, but i think one thing we failed to forget is the israeli public has now gotten more reciperous against netanyahu, as now the call has been hostages coming home or resign. "and i think that has pushed the issue to the next level, and i think netanyahu is balancing too many things and he's teetering at the top and eventually is most likely predicted to fall. so something as my fellow colleague professor mentioned from ramala that they're talking to the emirates, emirates will be foolish to get involved with something like this, taking on the responsibility. you have to understand,

if anybody has studied history, they will understand that the egyptians and jordanians played this role very early." on and they regretted it and they gave, they gave that power to the palestinian people, and it should be the palestinians to decide what the future is, not other nations should be a part of that. israel just wants to pass on the b to another gulf nation so that they can take in this responsibility and they can do their dirty work in perse and perhaps maybe the reaction of the palestinians would be different. this is not a long-term plan, the palestinian people deserve a state, the europeans have come to this conclusion. not only that, but the icj ruling has been very clear that the occupation of these lands needs to be emptied out immediately, and not only that, i think what's really important is the call for reparations, and i think that was really important in the icj ruling as well, so this is a half-hearted attempt, and i think netanyahu is just scrambling to see

if he can push the issue as much as possible, but with the pressure of southern lebanon, with the local pressure that he's have, with the icj pressure and now... china's involvement, i don't think this is a really smart decision, i think the emirati is maybe just entertaining them a conversation on the side, because you know the gulf nations are kind of playing both sides here, there's the russia, chinese camp that's trying to have a little bit more influence and they're realizing that, and we we seen that even recently with with uae we're giving reference to that they had a meet down with the taliban right before he went for hadj, the leader from the taliban, so i think you know there something that the emirates are just playing politics to be honest, i don't think... going to bear any fition, but that isn't a sustainable solution decision has to be from palestinians okay, i'm sorry for jumping in, we have only two minutes was if you allow me, i'll put a question to professor nem, professor, once this uh ruinous genocidal war on gaza comes to an end, what would you think would be the solution cuuse china is pushing for this two state solution, what's the solution to end this conflict once and for

all, two state solution, a poliposit by all palestinians, what's the way? well, yes, we have discussed. that many times before if you remember, i don't believe and lots of palestinians don't believe that the two state solution is go still valid and rather we are talking about two states illusion because you know as far as the state of israel in its form today and in their mentality and zianist movement as movement whose you know giving the background ideology for this state still exist it means that would be no solution, no two state and not even whatever state could be even imagined, but the world would like to talk always about the two state solution, because this is something everyone agreed to, but they... know especially the chinese, they do know that there will be no two state solution as far as israel is still as it is with their mentality and their their racism

and also the zionist movement as national movement for all jews only, so i don't think that the idea of two state solution is still valid, but what we rather wanted to do is to form a kind of a front in the whole world to condemn israel and to put sanctions on israel and to put... also lots of of other punishments to israel to end this regime as a regime, as racist regime, colonialist regime, and we have no problem with jews as jews, we could can live together, so i think the solution will be one state solution. all right, appreciate that, that's all the time, we have said muh in karachi, sat nir in aramala, thank you so much for the input and insight, and thank you for watching this episode of the spotlight on press tv, up in your host behruz najafy, i'll see you next time.

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