see the28. welcome back to gaza under attack, a deep dive into the news surrounding the ongoing usraeli genocidal war on gaza and the brutal violence against palestinians in the occupied west bank. i'll bring you my panel in a

moment, but first a review of some of the latest developments. unending israeli attacks, frequent evacuation orders and forced displacements have further devastated the battered health system in the beseed gaza strip. that, according to the un's relief and works agency for palestine refugees, also known as unrua. in gaza's southern city of of hanjunes, israel has killed over two dozen palestinians with reports of the... regime snipers targeting everyone across the city, armed by the united states, new revelations that washington has provided the israeli regime with over 25,00 bombs and missiles since october last year. also in the us, vice president and presidential candidate komala harris says she will not be silent about the suffering in gaza. the response from the israely regime, there will be no truth, madam candidate. in europe, the uk drops its plan.

and legal challenge against arrest warrants that the international criminal court is seeking for israel's top leaders. germany and some other european countries are yet to support the court's decision, and in the wake of a china brokered national unity supported by iran, will the rival palestinian movements reconcile their differences and lobby for an end to israel's occupation. nine months of the us-israeli genocidal war on gaza has killed at least 39,00 palestinians. and of wounded more than 90 thousand others. helping me unpick all of that is ali azam, co-founder of the virtue ethics foundation, and via zoom, joining us all the way from johannesburg, south africa, is the spokes person for africa for palestine, tisetsu magama. gentlemen, thank you both for being here. ali, if i may start with you, um, this decision by the uk government, we saw them flip flop, um, right after getting into

parliament and and into government, this of course started when the conservatives under sunak were in power, what is your your reaction to this decision by the uk to drop its potential legal challenge to the icc seeking those arrest warrants for netan yahoo and co? i would say that we can only uh rely on these speculations at the moment, what are the motives, you know, what, what are these dropping? objections based on we don't know, there's been surprises from obviously conservative or very open about their position and starmer obviously coming into of fire with lot of different issues surrounding, so i suppose that there is caution on that side, but whether or not it yield any genuine possibilities of support for palestinians and from the fact that if the uh warrants are issued contributes to

something, it's a far fash thing even you know contemplate or think of, so i think at the moment is quite just speculations, but but again, do you think moving forward will see any change in the uk's foreign policy? already we have seen for example labor going from calling for sustained period of calm if i'm not mistaken to calling for immediate cease fire under this. government uh david lemy, the foreign secretary, but then again a lot of criticism against him for having traveled to um the occupied territories uh of 1948, shaking hands with the israeli prime minister, but do you think we're on the cusp of radical or significant change in uk foreign policy? personally i think that i'm skeptical about the whole thing because their narratives do not match the actions or the policies um "and if they were ever to move in

that side, we can expect a lot of pressure, israeli pressure, us pressure to reverse anything that if it goes in that direction, so i'm quite skeptical. okay, let's go to..." johannesburg and uh to said so, this whole attempt to block the icc from issuing those arrest warrants is led of course by the united states, this week we saw the cheers in the us congress for benjamin nyahu netanyahu, the israeli prime minister, but what i'd like to ask you is would you make of the vice president kamla harris who could potentially be the next us president saying the war in gaza has to end? no, look, it it's clear at least at this stage that camala harris um is looking towing the support of an disenchanted and disillusioned younger voting population and those on the the center left and the left

on the left spectrum and so um i do not and i think we shouldn't read too much into it um we've seen you know the protests that that have been uh breaking out throughout the us for the past few months and clearly there is a deep sense of of being lost you or at least of a certain portion of the of the voters being lost to the democratic party and it seems that you know conversely this has given trump a second you know boost to towards the elections and so so at this stage really there is no substance. rather than the symbolic gesturing from the vice president of course with one eye on the election. we'll talk about trump later, but you know the words are important too. you hear things even in the in camel harris's uh statements, the war in gaza, not even the war on gaza, or the

plausible genocide at least, according to the icj that's out there, no such comments from american leaders making it into... something that is equal conflict or war between two equal sides, which as we know is not the case. no, absolutely. look, it's part of the rank hypocrisy of the united states. you know, i'll tell you something, few years ago i had very interesting conversation with a senior us diplomat, and i wanted to understand what animates us foreign policy in the middle east and... especially in so far as israel is concerned and i got a very enlightening response um and i was told in one line for america this is domestic issue so so so the point here is that the the

question of israel for americans is as much issue about healthcare you know about unemployment or employment and the economy and so on, it it's deeply engrained in the american body politic, and so if you understand and appreciate that reality about israel, you will then understand why america, american leadership from both parties, will throw overbard even their own laws, such as the laws that regulates the transfer of weapons to to to conflict z. which strictly forbid for prohibits the united states government from from transferring those weapons to israel, yet they have found ways of of of continuing to do that, and so so what i'm saying to you is that i think in the final analysis, if we appreciate the fact

that for america israel is domestic issue, we will understand why then it's easy for them, to get rid of any uh inhibitions they may have in so far as that is concerned. all right, meantime, displaced palestinians in central gaza have reacted with anger and surprise at netanyahu's speech to the us congress, instead of any overtures towards a ceasefire, more bloodshit was toughed. let's hear a little of what people said in gaza. he did not mention seiz fire or anything. continue with what he's doing to kill and destroy the palestinian people. he wants to wipe out resistance, but he cannot do that, so he's wiping out the palestinian people. i was surprised. yetanyahu has not changed since two decades. he is vampire who kills

children and women. we were expecting ya to declare a truce, sease fire in the american congress. the congress applauded him, which means that netanyahu is ruling the world. this is what i see. "the world is not ruling israel, but israel is ruling the world. all right, ali, um, you heard the word ce fire several times in those two samweites residence." uh in the enclave, what is standing in the way of a ce spire from taking hold or beat agreed upon at this point in your opinion? at the moment, think in the last nine or 10 months you've seen that america has a certain position, so is so has the west, uk, germany, and i don't think that there is any, there can be any flexibility for that to move, so even these empty talks, empty narratives of seasfire even when they come they... bear no uh value, no power, no force, i think they're just a bit of a smoke

screens behind which everything is exactly the same, but they need to kind of delusionize people, delusionize the social kind of a political imagination and and consensus that, so i think cease fire is far from netanyahu's own personal. agendas and and interest, i don't think he himself of course is one big obstacle to it, sorry, netanyahu himself is an obstacle to a trip, i, i mean, we could argue that is not just netanyahu, i think the fact that majority in israels are continuing to be pro war, it just kind of illustrates uh where the psyche is at the moment in terms of what you know, is it genocide, is it war, is it war which is justifiable, even now when you hear most of ' "the presenters on the radio and other political analys, i think there is quite an

openness about questioning still the the nature of the war, whether it's genocide or is just war, it happens in war, so still i think majority is thinking within those frameworks that it's just a war and we had to, we have to accomplish certain goals and objectives and that's for the interest of the israel's wellbeing, so i think unless that is broken, fracture..." right, i don't think that we are going anywhere near it. okay, um, tesetsu, if you, i'm sure you listened to watch the speech um by netannyahu at the uk, us congress, he was almost obsessed with the islamic republic of iran in his speech, he he named iran 10 times, i guess, uh, and that is who he really wants a direct confrontation with, is that right? yes and no, yes, he wants a direct confrontation with iran, but

not with israeli, with the israeli military, what he's looking for is essentially to draft the us military into a war with iran, you see that will do two things for netanyahu and his ilk, the one is they hope to forever bury obliterate the palestinian question on the one hand, but in the second leck of... strategy of of of of a confrontation with with iran um will also then you know essentially they hope destroy israel's nemesis in the region because if if you look at the geopolitical picture within the middle east um western powers and in particular the united states is essentially on the cp of achieving what they've always set out to achieve which was to elevate israel as a regional power in in west asia that of course

will will serve us geostrategic interests and so what has emerged over the years of course um is two things one is the the the arab and and and muslim governments in the middle east of course have been brought to hill they can be managed and we've seen that with the abraham accords on the one hand right uh the obstinate. the stubborn problem that siks to, mean that simply refuses to go away is the is the is the islamic republic and so if if they are able then to do that and and get the american military to obliterate the islamic republic, israel will of course emerge as the as the winner and hopefully i think um establish itself as a regional hegemon, i think that is that is really the... political strategy that we are we are seeing and and uh the problem though for netanyahu is uh

neither the west, the collective west, and in particular the united states is particularly enthusiastic about getting into a direct confrontation with the islamic republic. and of course another argument is that netanyahu and his gang have lost the war so called in the gaza strip and that iran is not at war and it's aligned um groups in the region, the anserlah in in yemen, hisbolla in lebanon and others are keeping israel in in check, now the us led um war on gaza is likely to get much worse if white supremacist donald trump is elected as the us president later this year, but would a black woman camela harris be any better? we asked economic and political activist based in new york for his analysis. well, she's she's been extremely

rabbid forming at the mouth, zell science. at least this is the way she's been projected. herself when she was the district attorney of california and later becoming a senator, you remember she was selected during wall street fundraiser to be the vice president, nobody wanted it, not even in our own state she want to vote, that's how horrible she is, harris is is basically what they what the what they would call here white supremacy in black face like the... same policies, you know, the same imperialism, anti-poor, anti-worker, anti-arab, anti, black, they just get a black person to do it, so she she'll be a continuate, she'll be another link in the chain of imperialist, there's not going to be any chance, might get worse if that's even possible, we also asked arabus absultu, what

the way forward for america is, and if the're... ever will be, change for the better? well, zionism is an ideology, and like any ideology has an emotional sort of religious uh connection to it, it's very emotional, and you know, i like to say that in america, we living in a country of hundred million activists, but nobody wants to take power, and without power change is not possible, like for instance, i'm part of whatever's left of the people's party. and we chose uh last year back in june uh we selected cornell west to be uh the president and in less than a week but he ran off to another party who's focusing on identity and not working class issues and not trying to end wars so we have a problem of people who want to be on youtube and do live streams and

do all of this stuff and yell in the streets and those things are tools and they're useful but we don't have. have we don't have a george gall for instance, we don't have a, we don't have a workers party here, and until people get serious and and and take power and sit there at the table where they could determine the policies, we just we're not going to get anywhere here, we just, and they know that, we have a situation where the majority of the population is focused on identity to the exclusion of everything else, it's all identity. politics and culs, which cannot be one, so zionism here is just another identity, another cul, so until we get serious people to to come in and and take power and fight the establishment from without and from within, the apparatus, i don't see any prospects here of thing

changing, mean jackson henkel started a communist party, hopefully it gets somewhere, but other than that, i don't think, i don't think it's going to improve at all. at the third genocide in gaza symposium hosted by the bristol palestine alliance, we caught up with one of the speakers, professor david miller. we asked for his reaction to the icj ruling that the israeli occupation of palestinian lands is illegal, if the ruling held any weight, and what the likely next step was? yes, it's a legal. ruling and of course the problem, as you say in your question is is whether anyone is going to pay any attention to it, and it looks like people aren't going to pay attention to it, of course it's been rejected by uh by the israelis and by other governments, but look, the point here is that this is a step-by-step uh um process which which marginalizes and puts into a corner uh designists and all

their supporters step by step we put them more and more into a corner. can't get get out of, and so it's obviously it's welcome for in that respect, because it helps other people to say, well, actually, there's a clear ruling here in terms of international law, what does it say about david lami, the foreign secretary of the uk who went and shook hands with netanjahu, in advance of this happening, who has previously said that he's in favor of international law, well it puts him in a very difficult position, and that's the kind of incremental way in which this will uh hype up the pressure on on the the the... governments of states who are supporting the genocide, but a wider level of course, it's it's quite small as as a step forward, it is a step forward, but we we're also facing a multitude of other steps forward. "obviously there is global public opinion, but they they attempt by design is escalate in both lebanon and in yemen, is attempt which will certainly bring

excalation, the the ancerolla and indeed hisbollah have said that they will uh significantly respond to these provocations and further steps up what they call the escalation ladder, and and of course this is a desperate situation for designers, they're playing really their last card, because what they want is to bring the us in on their side, but the us is reluctant and and will be reluctant, because of course the us knows that it can't easily triumph in such a conflict, because they know perfectly well that ansara and indeed hezball have weaponry which can sync us aircraft carriers, that's why of course they drawn one of the aircraft carriers which was damaged by uh by by missiles which they pretended was just due to come to the end of its 90-day mission, it hadn't even been there 90 days, so there's a real difficulty for the us because the... these uh much vaunted uh projections of us power, the aircraft carriers and the associated uh warboats, the essentially have been transformed by the weaponry which have

into floating metal targets in the sea, professor david miller speaking there, well we have just few moments left uh to the end the show, let's get a couple of questions in there and if i uh may i will... with uh to setsu, south africa called on the icj back in may to order israel to end the rafa offensive, that never happen, should we be optimistic about any new dictats from the international court of justice? no, certainly not, these institutions have shown themselves to be important, you know, they they have no impact whatsoever, because you see what we what you see in international relations, especially in the you know global governance institutions is that it is typically only the west that will put their resources behind the

the enforcement of certain decisions whether it's the un security council or even the wto and and other institutions and so and so you have that that dynamic that that that is there within these global governance institutions um but i think for us at the end the day in spite of the the lack of action or the importance of these institutions, the struggle continues, and but i think there should be one fundamental shift in in our focus of struggle, which is we have to focus not only as on israel as an occupia as an aparted state, but we should also equally focus our energies on the united states, without which or without whom we know. "israel's genocide for instance, now would never have taken place and would never have persisted for for for this long, and so whether it's a camala harris or a donald

trump that emerges to us as as activists, and certainly for the palestinian people, their fundamental grievances remain, and the struggle must continue, but then we have to adjust, let me pick up on that and and put a question to ali and that is, we heard the analysis that" from from johannesburg and of course from new york, do you think donald trump is the guy that the the israelis under this government are looking for as president the us? yes, quite now a popular uh consensus on that that now he was actually waiting for donald trump to you get get into the government so that they can have a again a complete free pass to just to cart planch yeah cart blanch. continue and even if donald trump is not elected, even with camela harrison, we can see that you know there's a

the the kind of narrative is there which shows sympathy for the people in gaza and palestinians, but there is there is nothing that is you know one can kind of infer that from their policies or their actions anything can ever be in support of palestinians, so you know it's just a different. in expressions of uh americans position, but the position nevertheless never change and will not change, will not change. all right, we're going to have to leave it there, gentlemen, that is all for this gaza under attack, special thanks to ali azam and tisetsu magama, and of course to you for watching the show, catch our earlier episodes on pressv.co.uk, and until we meet again, continue to keep palestine in your hearts.

this week on expos day, zionist media hurls accusations of blood libel at the land set following its grim revelation that the gaza conflict's death toll could surpass 100. 86,000, equating to 8% of the enclaves population. in our digital media segment, we uncover the new york times portrayal of zianist israel's gaza assaults as a biased narrative, demonizing palestinians while rationalizing israeli entity military violations of international law. meanwhile, a delta pole for over 2000 adults unveils that 45% of britains endorse recognizing an independent palestinian state with 54%. sent

advocating for a uk ban on arm sales to zinist israel, stay tuned for expose, the truth is just a revelation away.

at least 11 israelies are killed in rocket attack on the occupied gollen heights. lebanon's hesbula movement has denied any responsibility in the strike. at these 30 palestinians including children are killed and many more wounded is really bombing of a school that was housing displaced gosons and un's humanitarian aid agency says rescue teams are unable to reach hundreds of palestinians trapped in eastern han unices.