hello and welcome to press tv spotlight, i'm marza hashimy, thanks so much for being with us, the tension between the lebanese resistance. movement hezbollah and the israeli regime has been increasing since october of last year when the regime started its latest genocide on gaza as rockets and missiles have been sent back and forth between the two on saturday, an explosive of device hit the occupied golan heights area town of match shams. now 12 drew's kids were killed a football field, the zianist regime immediately blamed hesbullah for the attack and the resistance group said it was not responsible and that israeli anti-missile

interceptors from the iron dome had misfired or gone off path, but what has happened since then is increased beating of the war drums by the regime. where is all of this going? we'll take a look at the possibilities on the spotlight. i'd like to welcome my guests to the program out of beirot, daniel yukich, author and researcher. thank you so much daniel for being. with us, well, i mean, if we look at both sides, we can evaluate which one has a history of killing kids and which one does not, which one has a history of lying, and which one does not? i mean, your thoughts on this overall, absolutely, as you're saying, it is very clear, and i could add to that that one side emerged as a response to the genocidal existence of the other, so um, what we see in the last days in the... zinius entities, political

communication is very much a continuity of what they've been doing for so many years, has been very open in its communication about its strategies and goals throughout the past eight months when it intervened into the uh ongoing genocide in gaza, so what we've seen the last two days designist entities communication around the events and the syrian goal and heights that are under illegal. the occupation shows once again that the israeli regime is looking for more excuses and more justifications so farther escalate the current situation, even though knowing very well that it would not be able to face a broader war uh with the lebanese resistance at this point. so so what does that mean daniel, on the one hand they are not doing very well in gaza, at least from a military perspective against the palestinian resistance, but on the other hand they want

to expand now um on the northern front, mean why would that be the case? so this is very good question, because if we look at it from the strategic perspective, this entire operation has been a failure for for israeli military, the only strategy it has had is to kill uh people, to commit a genocide, to bombard and starve the population in gaza, at the same time it is involved in a fight in the north of oc palestine against the palestinian resistance, it is also uh an ongoing war, as we've seen also in the last weeks increasingly with with yemen, there is involvement of the iraqi uh resistance as well and so on, so these israeli regime is generally um losing, because the only thing at the same time, and this is the very inherent contradiction in the zionist project is that it necescitates violence and the continuity of of war, because the moment israeli regime stops. killing or and

oppressing uh would basically very much mean the end of of the israeli regime. at the same of time we also need to keep in mind that the current netanyahu regime also uh depends or basically its survival depends very much on the continuity of the war because of the internal uh problems and political scandals within uh the the zionist regime and at the same time it manifests it it's dependence on on western aid on these ongoing wars. all right, well turning to karachi, welcome sayid moaz shah, executive director, center for islamic law and human rights to the show, well say um, on monday various countries from the western hegemonic front have warned their nationals not to travel to lebanon along with airlines from these nations stopping their flights and warning of an imminent attack by israel. i mean, your thoughts on this, is this psychological warfare or do you think the israeli regime will attack and will it be

more of attack than what we have seen in last 10 months? i mean, your assessment of it all. thank you very much for having me and and it's really sad that we are. hearing this news out of southern lebanon, what's going on? as you know, the attack is, as per the israelis and some of their officials have admitted that this was in retaliation to what happened earlier in the goal on heights and as we know, hizbullah has completely denied any activity according to that, and i think another thing that your viewers should know that the town that was attacked in the occupied golen heights was actually drews dominated and we have a history of is is targeting drew's communities, so this could be someone spoiling the pot to create further um conflict in the region and israel is not reacting to it responsibly, obviously they need excuse, and uh that's what they they're trying to play this out to be, and this is so-called retaliation to that strike uh, but

the foreign minister of lebanon was very clear cut with the international community, he basically said if it's going to happen this time it's not just going to be his bullah, so... um, i think this is very interesting because this is a spoiler, and we know netanyahu's precarious position, he's just in the united states, he's had meetings with biden, now that's transition, trump, he had kind of a mysterious meeting, there was a handshake issue that happened, so we don't know where nanyahu exactly stands, and for him this continuance of a war is what's necessary, and if we recall the conflicts in the past when he spoke about the the airlines and traveling that the western nations have suggested. it uh there's this, there's a fear that you know israel, we know its actions, what happened in ghaza, they're going to do the same thing over in in in southern lebanon and all of lebanon, and therefore the airports will probably be a target, and this is something that they're notorious for doing, they've did it in the past, they

targeted the tv station if you remember, and many other civilian infrastructure sites just to hurt lebanese civilian population, um, you know, we israel doesn't have a... good record of even dealing with the lebanese um civilian population let alone the palestinian one, so i don't think we can expect anything that for much, and i think the scare is really about the airport closure, and this is the reason why you the western nations are always quick to kind of jump on that first. well, what about that, daniel? i mean, you're you're sitting in beirut, overall, tell me the vibe in the country right now, so uh, it depends on where you go, obviously, despite lebanon. being rather small country there is obviously of course lot of differences through geographic fragmentation but also you the class play plays a particular role um and of course the situation in in beirot is different than it is from the south or in other regions of the country but um daily life continues very well to some extent um as

we've heard now some airlines have postponed or cancelled their fights but it's also important to stress that this is not the first time that this happens it had happened before. in october at the beginning of the current ongoing escalation, so to some extent yes there is worry that there may be a farther escalation that there may be an israeli attack, but at the same time it is not necessarily a new circumstance for many people, and unfortunately it has been a situation now that it has been ongoing for for 10 months, so it is of course very sad to say, but there has been a certain, it has become normalized to some... extent uh to to live with this presence of israeli intensive israeli aggression and potentials of father escalation a daily basis. well said maois, i want your perspective, i talked to daniel a little bit early about this, but again talking about the israeli regime and not

being able to handle what is gotten itself involved in right now, this genocide in gaza, how does it think that it would handle hezbollah, because hezbollah said that if the regime... responds or if the regime attacks that it would definitely respond in kind, meaning that if it's a more uh stronger attack than it had been, that means the... response from hezbullah will also be stronger. i mean, your thoughts on that. well, i think you're absolutely right, there's an interplay here. we have obviously that statement from hisbullah earlier, and we've seen there was a lot of action on the front, but specifically the israelies are commenting on that this current scenario is in retaliation to that strike that happened on that drews town in golen heights and again i'm emphasizing this, there's a spoiler alert here where i think that, because... when it does action, it admits to it, so there was a third party that was involved in this strike

that has created the current case scenario, let me just jump in here, let me just jump in here, saying, so um, you don't think that the israeli regime itself could be responsible for this, because we also have reports some people who were who've actually were ey witnesses that said it was a malfunction by the iron dome, yes, yes, thank you for, thank you for highlight. that of course we need to investigate it to find out, but i think absolutely what you're mentioning here - need not forget that we know isis and the relationship that it may have with israel on the back channels, we've we've uh discovered already throughout the many years of investigating isis, israelly musad agents have been found infultrated in leadership positions, so clearly i think there's something here that israel wants to create this scenario so that it can justify another southern lebanon invasion, and i quote, "the israeli officials who commented on this that the we are planning for few days of fighting

on the border, so there was already kind of a plan that they were going to go in and they needed some sort of attack or some sort of scheme. now let me tell you, whenever hizbullah does attack, they say this is us, they're clearly saying this is not us and so here we have a scenario where i think we really need to critically look at this, someone is trying to spoil the pot, and i think netanyahu needed this so that he can create this other case scenario when he comes." back from america and so and as you know he's even blamed the defense minister for the what's what's happened and there's talks about removing him and as you know he had left the war cabinet earlier so this is very interesting there's a israeli political situation going on at the same time that we should give time and investigate and find out what is the reality behind all what's going on what we see today on southern lebanon well uh daniel your perspective i mean how likely is either of these scenarios. won the u.s. dealing with all of its current problems and an election in a few months does not want to

get involved in a war in this region or to the us wants a war because americans become more united during a time of war and the country is currently quite divided. yeah, both are possible. i mean in the end, the us political elite is loyal to design lobby rather than of course to its own citizens. so very much to... political interests of the israeli regime are at the center of decision making in washington dc as well as is the investment of money from uh from apac and other parts of the zinist lobby and of course here at the center are the so-called security concerns of the israeli regime so depending on how the situation continues in the next month i mean i think doesn't there obviously will not be any any difference regardless of which part of the bipartisan regime that the democrats or republicans. uh win the election um at the end uh of this year, but uh the the

very strong role that the us media has of course played in um especially as we've seen in the past weeks in terms of shifting the focus towards smaller um issues between those two parties um rather than of course the genocide isn't anymore part of the headlines i think um that doesn't really uh become major issue there. um the israeli regime will continue to have the full backing uh of the united states and should it seek a further geographical expansion uh of uh of this war in that case as well? well said your perspective, i mean is it that the zianist regime has reached a dead in in gaza and knows it cannot win militarily, so it wants to expand the war and bring in the us and its allies to divert attention from its failure with the hopes that the all then could win a regional war? how do you see this?

absolutely, and i think this is something that if we again go back to netanyahu's meeting with trump, which still people are trying to find out and analyze what it meant, we don't know if there was a kind of a mutual, there were some points where netnyahu, even donald trump said that we might be prepared for world war ii, okay, we're having some technical difficulties there. karachi, hopefully will be able to reestablish that connection with said maz. well, daniel, i'll throw that same question to you, i mean your thoughts on that, is it that the israeli regime just, i mean, they cannot... do anything militarily, cannot be successful militarily in gaza, and that you're just trying to divert attention now and bring others in. that is very possible and even likely. i mean, if we look at where we're standing today, 10, 10 months into this latest war and genocide on gaza, the israeli regime is still facing very harsh resistance

from palestinians in gaza, even after, i mean the numbers are so difficult even site about. how many people have been killed uh and and displaced, but there is still resistance, then uh the other component of the israeli issue of course is that it is internally uh weakened, it is obviously in dire need for additional military inf structure for people uh to participate in this war. we see the ongoing conversation now with the ultra orthodox jews being conscripted into the uh israeli occupation forces and so on um and at the same time it is uh having a war in the north of palestine and another front, so um obviously the question is to uh in in terms of time, how long will the israeli regim be able to continue uh this current status quo? now there has always been a dimension to the genocide in gaza that goes beyond gaza, we see uh the uh increased even more israeli violence since october in the west bank and

east jerusalem um as well so um and even without the current crisis israel can only exist with the backing that it gets from the west, so hypothetically, of course it's difficult to estimate what may happen, but should there be a further distraction into other directions and geographical expansion the world it would have to involve israel's enablers and backers more that could potentially should the israeli regime be more weakened be easier way out for them and for their situation. well, i'm going to stay with you daniel, unfortunately having technical difficult. is still with karachi. um daniel, if the israeli regime expands the war, it would also mean a war by the whole resistance front. possible scenarios in your perspective, if this becomes a wider war. yeah, so the israeli regime's last um land

invasion of lebanon was in in 2006, if we don't count that the continuous airal invasions of. on and it has suffered um defeat uh from from the side of the lebanese resistance which today almost two decades later of course is much stronger, has an even larger military capacity and has weapons uh that it hasn't even used yet, so uh it will of course would be an unprecedented crisis and we also seen the last eight eight months, 10 months uh the israeli regimes um different and weaker approach uh to lebanon now of course uh lebanon, hez has made very clear, they do not want to have a further war, no one in the region wants a war, and we need to keep in mind that all of the resistance movements are defensive movements that were created as a response to this western backed, colonialism and imperialism, so should this father expand, i think it will even much of course, it it could lead to the defeat of the

israeli regime, because at the end the israeli regime is a colonial outpost from the west. is implemented and that has a difficult time surviving even without a brother regional war in which it would continue to fight people who are merely fighting to to remain on their land and not not to be killed. so if we look at this from this historical ideological perspective, of course already the israel regime has been in a in a weakened position, but of course it would be very of course dangerous and the unprecedented excavation should it go into that direction further. all right, we joined, sayid moz has joined us, but by phone, sorry about the technical difficulties, but zayat, i mean, uh, every day we see that the israelis are losing more and more of its reputation on the world stage, and that there are growing calls, not just from islamic countries, but throughout the world, that the apartide regime should be dismantled, i mean,

do you see this as the beginning of the end for the zionist regime? oh, absolutely, i'm sorry about this connection issue, we're actually facing thunderstorms, but what china has done earlier this week in reconciling the palestinian groups is transformational has never happened, the chinese are playing increased role, top of that, the icj has came up with major ruling this last this month that has really shifted the balance, we have countries that are calling for sanctions, we have countries calling for netnels arrest, where this is something like you said that not just islamic nations, there is a global call, and that's why i also think, to be honest, one of the factors why israel is trying to tease the lebanon issue is because the icj ruling, they want to shift that that momentum because of the pressure that's from that ruling, that's... going to affect them uh dealing with palestinians, so in order to shift it to something else, to shift the conversation, they're trying to withdraw this attention from gaza, from palestine and focus

on something else, so that again it's one of those straw men strategies trying to move on, but like you said earlier, this is going to be a failed, failed, failed idea of trying to create a regional war, and what i see happening is i do not see the the traditional us allies joining in on this, simply for the... reality that this is new world order that's forming, the iran, russia, china, new brick brick countries that are coming together to change the dynamics of this world, let me just jump in here with what you just said, let me just jump in here with what you just said, as you said that you don't see the traditional allies coming to the zionist regime because of this new world order uh on the basically in in the process of being made, but with that being said, wouldn't for example the hegemon of the time and the hegemonic front uh be threatened by that, and

that could cause actually uh blowback from them because of course when you have been in power, it is very difficult to give up that power. i mean, how likely is that scenario? oh oh, you're absolutely right, netanyahu given up power is the main issue at hand here and... "i think that's something that's going to cause a big deal uh and and it's going to be a problem for its traditional allies, particularly the united states. uh, the gulf countries that, have been allies with the united states on this matter are teetering on the fence line, i mean with the chinese involvement, i'm i'm being very honest with you, i don't think the saudis or the emiratis are going to kind of interfere much or or get involved as much because they're going to look to china, their trade with china is increasing, the relationship with iran is very strong as we know with the united arab emirates and" saudi arabia has reestablished those links and egypt to be honest well uh sad to say it will go to the biggest buyer bitter and if the chinese are able to give them something i think they can be also drawn

out of the situation. i really think the dynamics are changing and only netanyahu is clutching to the last draws just to maintain in power and and he's he's going out the light is the light is dimming on him both internationally and locally with his own israeli population. okay, well let me let me end it there because i'm losing your voice again even by phone. daniel, one minute, final thoughts. how thoughts on? yeah, on the overall situation, where you see this going? yeah, i mean, i agree, i think we we're living in increasingly shifting world order where it will increasingly be difficult for these regime to find any way out of the catastrophe it has caused and it will have to face the consequences one way or another would that lead. to a brother regional excavation, it might get worse uh at some point uh for sure, but um i also go back to the previous question, i do see uh this as

the potential end of the israeli regime, because there will be no uh way out of it for it to remain a part uh of the so-called international community after what what what is going on right now. all right, thank you so much danielle, your judge author and researcher out of beirout and uh said shaw, executive director, center for islamic law and human rights out of karachi, and thank you viewers for staying with us on another spotlight. i'm marza hashim, we hope to see you right here next time. goodbye. مشکل تعبیه توی همه کار تولیدی بود، از جمله خود ما. به این فکر افتادیم که یه کار اساسی اینجا انجام بدیم برای تعویه سالن. با خیز شدن آجورای سفالی و عبور هوا از دیوارهای مشبك

آجوری هوای خنک مطبوعی به داخل سالن هدایت میشه. تو این دریچه ها باد خنک میزنه زیر هر دستگاه یه دریچه هستش که از این ما هم خنک میشیم هم آلودگی بغلم دی همین سنتی آجر است و هوای. i've seen more. incinerated children that i've ever seen in my entire life combined.

how many? kids are in danger of starvation in gaza. all of them, absolutely all of them. i've never seen that before, never seen that. so... of all the disaster zones you've seen, how does gaza compare? all of the disasters i've seen combined, combined, 40 mission trips, 30 years, ground zero, earthquakes, all of that combined doesn't equal the level of carnage that i saw against civilians in just my first week in gaza, and when you say civilians, is it mostly children? almost

exclusively children, i've never seen that before, never seen that. i've seen more shredded children in just the first week, shredded, shredded. what do you mean, missing body parts, being crushed by buildings, the greatest majority, or bomb explosions, the next greatest majority. i have children that were shot twice. wait, you're saying that children in gaza are being shot by snipers. definitively. i have two children that i have photographs of that were shot. so perfectly in the chest i couldn't put my stethoscope over their heart more accurately and directly on the side of the head, in the same child, no tother gets shot twice by mistake by the world's best sniper, and they're dead center shots. what about the emotional wounds? how can you measure that? i can't measure my own. how do you be a uh an orphan and watching your family you know melted in front of you

and shredded in front of you? how do you fix that, ever fix that for dozens of miles we saw 18 wheelers parked bumper to bumper, engines off outside of gazet, food or healthcare could not get in. israeli genocidal war on gaza claims more palestinin lives, the death tool is now exceeded 39,360. iranian president says tehran's policy on supporting the cause of palestine and the liberation of alcohols does not change when the administration is change.