hello and welcome to press tv spotlight, i'm marza hashimi, thanks so much for being with us, israel's best heroes, this is what the individual responsible for zianis prison services and national security has said about the iof soldiers raping of palestinian prisoners, and perhaps ben gaver is right since we know the more compass of the zin is the oppos. of normal human beings, heroes for

the regime would mean those who can commit the most heinous crimes, it might be difficult though to decide, because you have zionist soldiers who have burnt babies alive to those who cut up kids into pieces, you have those who have disconnected newborns from incubators and left them to die to those who have killed civilians and and rolled over them in front of their children, which one gets the hero award from the... most immoral army in the world? well, it's a toss up. stay with me on this spotlight as we look at the latest crimes of the regime. i'd like to welcome my guests to this program. out of vancouver, charlotte cates, international coordinator, sam doon, palestinian prisoner solidarity network, and sad nemr out of ramala, professor of political science at.

that university. well, thank you both for being with me. going to start it off with charlotte in vancouver. now the type of crimes that have been committed during this american israeli genocide is really beyond belief. from starvation to emilation, nothing seems to be off limits for the zionist regime and its supporters. do you believe that there are any red lines that the regime would not cross when related to the palestinian population? to be, it's very clear that when we're talking about a genocide taking place, we're talking about really attempt to exterminate the palestinian people physically, socially, culturally, and in every other way, and so what we've seen time and time again is anything that one might think is a red line has simply been rolled right past by the zionist occupation forces, so you know, just yesterday we witnessed

massacre where a us provided uh bomb was dropped on over 100 palestinian civilians as they prayed morning prayers as they were sheltering in a school where they had been forced to seek refuge um and they were massacred and this is not a red line for the zionists what we saw in the videos and the numerous numerous reports and the numerous testimonies from ciday to man where we are hearing from palestinian prisoner. a palestinian prisoner who have been subjected to the most horrific forms of torture and abuse at the hands of zionist captors from uh gang rape and sexual assault to horrific torture, electroshock torture, people being bound to beds, 24/7 being force fed and denied food, people's eardrums being split through noise torture, just a real uh celebration of torture, and then we've seen this actually celebrated in the streets, by

zionist rioters who were outraged at even the thought of moticom of accountability even just to please the international criminal court for these torturers and rapists and abusers. the only kind of red line the zionists recognize is that that will be imposed upon them externally by the resistance. okay, well sad, mean after footage of the soldiers taking a palestinian prisoner to rape surface, the us responded by saying the reports are horrific. and should be fully investigated by the israeli government. what does this mean exactly? mean, what does it mean that they are saying that the regime who's committing genocide is allowed to investigate itself after committing so many crimes, and especially if we look at the last 10 months. well, good after, good evening for you, miss hashimi, and to your guest as well and all your viewers. thank you. um, i'll start with tell you something. i've spent myself. in israeli

prison for eight years and i thought for some moment that i've seen it all, but apparently after the 7th of october this is totally another world, another world totally. from the testimony of the palestinian prisoners have been released, from the some of the reports for the lawyers who been able to visit some of the prisoners and also from the reports that we are hearing everyone and while from either hits newspaper or other organizations in israel who you know sometimes they release some of these news, it is horrible and i think that we never ' seen such a thing, not only in palestine during the the last 50 years of occupation, but also around the world, i don't think that this kind of things people try to compare the israeli prisons and especially sid timan,

which is the prison in the in the desert near to gaza, where most of the people in gaza were put in, and it is the worst in the world and they try to to compare it with guantanamo, but apparently this is even worse than guantanamo and that will make also you know what happened in abu gharib in in in iraq is is a amir joke in comparison, so i i we can't even describe the saddest and the the fascist mentality of these israeli soldiers when they do this rape in front of everyone and in front of the cameras and they do know that there are there is cameras in in the present and yet they did it, what kind of mentality do they have, and then the reaction, the reaction is this story went away like all other stories, as you also guess mentioned just yesterday's massacker

that everyone you just you look at it and it will go away like all other massacers and this is what we call a genocide and i think that regardless of the... the american statement, what we need now for this, what we can call, if we can call international community to take action, not statements, not condemnation and not only you know expressing their concern about what's going on, we need them really to do something about it, so far, so far, because the the united nations organizations in general, they are you know talking about the issues and but no one is taking any action and that would encourage israel to continue since no one is doing anything right israel apart from you know condemnation they will continue that's the problem that we are facing now well charlot as zot has just said no one is doing anything

and we've seen that the uh uh there were some protests from uh other zionist settlers uh those who gang raped the prisoner and been detained were not charged and were freed. i mean, what does this say not only about what is taking place by iof soldiers, but in general, the overall psychee of the zionist society. in many ways sman, this is the true face of zionism. this is what zionism looks like. this is the reality of zionism, which has always been a colonialist, supremacist, fascist ideology that has been based on supremacy and exclusion of of palestinians and arabs and based on basically the eradication of indigenous people of the land in order to create a western settler colonial garrison serving imperialist forces in the region and has always been willing to take up

any measures in order to carry out that aim and so you know when we look back at al nakba of 1948 we also have numerous stories of palestinian of palestinian, especially at that time, women and girls who were subjected to horrific sexual assaults at the hands of the zionists. if we go back to the 1960s and 1970s, sexual assault was routinely used as a form of torture and abuse in order to extract confessions inside the zionist jails by interrogators and this was exposed before the united nations, and there was testimony about it. ras among others spoke bravely and exposed. casing this and years later wound up being deported from the united states fundamentally because of her role in exposing those kinds of zionist crimes, and this is so this is part of the theft of the land, the destruction of homes, the burning of olive trees, the sadistic behavior that we've seen

displayed on every tic tock of every zionist soldier, but more than that, it is sponsored by the united states, it is sponsored by britain, it is sponsored by france, it is sponsored by germany, it is sponsored by canada, it is sponsored is in the connesset about to the right to sexually assault palestinian prisoners and one of the mps, hanusky um said that if the person is hamas then everything is legitimate. your thoughts about that statement. mhamas is is not the humans, there are some you know kind of aliens apparently from the israeli point of view. this is exactly what's going. on in this society, this whole society is sick, it is the reflection of that is exactly the

speech what was which was delivered by netanyahu in front of the congress and the american congress and all these applauses for him, he said literally, we are the civilized against the uncivilized, so we are the uncivilized, so in such case, and this is you know um... with the same lines with the mentality of the colonialist generally, the colonialists and especially the western colonialists and particularly the europeans who had eurocentric ideology in their heads about you know their superiority over the people that they occupied in africa and in asia and everywhere else around the world was the same claim, the claim that we are the civilized and we are there not for the... you know to exploit the the country, but we are there you know to develop these uncivilized

people, and that was exactly the same speech of netanyahu, so the whole israeli society think in the same way, which is you know the colonialist way, that palestinians are not humans, they are less than us, they are not matching to to the the israelis or the jewish if you like, from that perspective, so because of that yes everything is allowed. to any palestinians and there are many statements uh for many israeli officers and and officials, just last week it was motrich, one of their ministers in the cabinet who said that killing the palestinian is something you know ethical, ethical to kill the palestinians regardless whether he hamas or not, this is even not that matter, any palestinian is you know it's it's they are allowed to... kill the palestinians, because palestinians are less than them, they are unhuman and remind you also with the

beginning of the war when the defense minister said we are going to cut the electricity, the water and the oil and everything, and they we are dealing with with animals, so with this kind of mentality, what did you expect from the israeli society? yes after this rain happened in ciditiman, the mob of settlers, they attacked the the this prison. because they don't want these soldiers who commit this crime to be arrested and when they were arrested and taken to bit lead center in the middle of of of the country those mob also they storm the the the center the police center there to release those prisoners who are you know commit a crime in front of camera and yet these mob still you know defending them and saying that they should be released we have many of... these cases where the the settlers who are supporting soldiers who commit crimes in

front of everyone and yet they get nothing you know of sentence or they will you know get very very soft sentence most of the time so it is the mentality of the whole regime this whole entity it is as as your guest also said it's the zionist zionist is is based on hatred and and discrimination and violence. so this is the basic for for zionism right, some interesting points, what about that charlotte s talked about um basically this zinanism being extension of colonialism, especially we think about the europeans, it reminds me of what joseph borel said a couple of years ago about the garden and you're being the garden and everyone else trying to get in it, do you think that that is part of the reason why the zionist regime has this uh 100% support from this? western hegemonic group in general or your assessment of that,

because of course they are not saying a whole lot even verbally, although they have started to make some comments here and there that it shouldn't take place, but in general we know that they're in bed with designs, well designist project has always seen itself um historically and the imperialist powers have always seen the zionist project as essentially an extension of imperialism in the region um you now theodore herzel approached seecel roads to talk about something colonial in palestine and that was the building of the zionist project there, it was the british imperialist powers power that uh issued the... for declaration for the creation of the zionist project in palestine uh recognizing so-called jewish national home to be built there and then supported, trained and actually enlisted the zionists and their paramilitary gangs to fight alongside the british forces and suppressing palestinian revolt after palestinian revolt in the 1920s and the 1930s, so you and now of course it's

the united states that is the lead sponsor of the zianis project, i mean just two days ago they said there they clear. the release of $3.5 billion dollars and new weapons and bombs and missiles to to throw at the palestinian people and to conduct this genocide in gaza, so it has always been like sponsored project of imperialism, first and foremost, and and one of the things that's happened uh recently and certainly on the 7th of october is that it was really quite visible that the possibility of a palestine that was free and liberated of zionism was not just a dream. but something that could become a reality very soon, and the same thing with a region that was free of imperialism, especially with the rise of the resistance forces and resistance powers in the region, and this is something that the imperialist forces and the zionist entity do not want to see by any means, and so we are seeing this absolute sick fascist lashing out of this wounded dying beast uh, and it is

causing tremendous tremendous killing and harm and devastation to the palestinian people, but this is nothing new. look at the history of france and algeria or vietnam, look at the history of britain around the world, look at the history of the united states and its cia interventions in countries around the world, this has always been a history of devastation and exploitation, and the zionist project is part and parcel of that entire imperialist agenda for the world. yes, well uh, sad prior to october 7th, there were at least 5200. palestinian prisoners being palestinians in prison by the israeli regime, i want to look at the importance for the zinanis regime in its six in its 76 years since appearing of using imprisonment to try to crush uh palestinians and and of course we've seen how aggressive they have been even with palestinians in the west bank almost

doubling the number of prisoners. i mean your assessment of the way imprisonment has been and is being... used by the regime, if we are going to talk about the issue of prisoners, sashimi, let me just tell you something, yes, before the the 6th of october, 7th of october, there was around 500, 5,500 palestinian prisoners, but over the years since 1967 we are talking about almost 1 million palestinian prisoners, can you imagine that number, one million palestinian prisoners, an average if we are talking about what what is the the the the the number of the palestinians anyway in the west bank gaz and jerusalem after 1967 so that amount of more than 30% 35% of the total population can you imagine and apply that to any country around the world to say 35% of your population are being arrested the number is huge the number is unbelievable because the

israeli they don't care about you know arresting anyone and they do the arrest as something you know whether they are having evidence or not having evidence apart from the administrative arrest which is something it was created by the british mandate in palestine 1945 and the israeli at that time or the jewish organizations at that time they consider it as a barbarian law now they are using the same law and they continue to to use the same law and this law allow the israeli to arrest any palestinian without charges without inter and without a trial only because we might, you know, we think that you might have done something in the past or you might do something in the future, we have no evidence, but because of that we can put you for six months in prison and this is renewable once and again and again and again and so on, so we have people who spent 12 years in a row under this administrative

arrest, they don't know why they are arrested in the first place, so and this is one part apart from the sick. apart from lots of other problems that palestinian president do face in front of this state, the problem is that the story and the israeli are if you like manipulating the world media regarding this issue, they talk about you know a punch of terrorists that we are dealing with according to the law, according to the law since israel is the only democracy in the middle east, but known fact that all palestinians who were arrested were trialed in front of a military courts, military courts because we are under military occupation, so if your enemy is your judge, so how can... you have justice, so there is, for the palestinians who've been in prison or going to into prison and arresting palestinians and israeli don't care about

neither the international law nor for the the geneva conventions, the second and the third, sorry, the third and the fourth geneva convention, which deal with the palestinian or the people under occupation, and they don't care about any kind of law around the world, and they do their own... ideas of law and now we have bing ver who's the the minister of internal security changing all the laws and allow the israeli you know guards and wardens and even soldiers to do whatever they like with the palestinian prisoners and we saw some pictures of palestinian prisoners how they went into the prison and how they are after getting out of the prison the picture is speaking for itself with me side we're just running out of time here um um charlotte on saturday uh more than 100 men women and kids were killed a school housing displaced families and the regime

targeted the area of course during morning prayer when it knew that more people would be gathering i mean what does this say about the regime itself that it wants to first of all target uh the more densely populated areas and and that the target. kids are always or just about always civilians, although let me say they did say that there were hamas operatives in the school, um, i guess that would give them the right to kill about 120 men, women and kids, and many of them could not even be identified because they were cut into pieces so badly. this horrific massacre is exactly what genicide looks like, it's the targeting of the population as a whole, the targeting of civilians and mass and we've seen this throughout the entire assault on gaza, the targets have repeatedly been um schools, mosks, churches, residential buildings, refugee camps, hospitals, the mass

devastation of the healthcare system, uh, the targeting of public service workers, of police, of people doing a distribution, i mean that this kind of standard of targeting civilians and mass has been the military strategy of the zionist regime, they've absolutely failed in attacking the resistance, and it's important to note here that the zionist. regime has absolutely no right to engage in attacks against the palestinian population, it has no right to be occupying or invading gaza, it has no right to so-called self-defense against the people it is occupying and colonizing, and the palestinian resistance is legitimate and legal armed resistance under international law, and so no, it would not be legal for them to attack the school even if it were actually base of support for the resistance, however obviously it was not and was simply... a place where civilians were sheltering and so this entire narrative of it be of of debating who is or is not in the resistance is basically a distraction that

the zionist regime wants to occupy us with as instead of exposing their crimes and holding them accountable indeed indeed well side one minute i have left i mean in your perspective is the only option for the palestinian people reliance on the resistance front or your assessment of that yeah yeah we tried, we tried other ways for 30 years, we tried to say, okay, we want peace, and we tried to say let's negotiate, and we tried to say, we will give up lots of things of our rights, we agreed to give up 20, 78% of our land in return for a minor state in in 22% of our land, we agreed even not to discuss seriously the issue of of refugees and what did they give us? what did they give us in the peaceful way and means and international law and united nations? president mahmoud abbas went to the united nations many times and

said please please help us. so what what happened? there isn't any way apart from the resistance and that's why the the support for the resistance now in the west bank as well as in gaza strip is very very high. everyone is supporting the palestinian resistance because this is the only way to deal with such regime. and on that note, i think both of you for being with me on this spotlight, charlotte case, international coordinator samadun, palestinian prisoner solidarity network out of vancouver, sadnem, professor of political science barsad university out of ramadla, and thank you viewers for being with us on another spotlight, i'm marsia hashimi, hope to see you right here next time, goodbye. perhaps the united states founding fathers

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