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expect the belief does on the positions of the russian federation towards this conflict, and you agree? it did dante debris for us to make sure that at least we understand that they have position positions of the government. we did that to that. but then we discussed questions like a conflict cut in good faith in israel and balancing ends, gaza, and then we would take the same positions in terms of ending left in that this let's, let's have a problem and then says fi and i tend to the matter of the building creation of, of, to, to space, which is a sub to education. and, but those are then discuss the operating issues like legs are done and, and the interests of the russian government to a, that'd be conflicted the district too much. and that the,
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i'm debating the military groups in, for don, this about non forces ended up rapids up. but forces must recognize that the military organizations need to add additional to and then need to add that dresser . might that of them acting in scums come kind of queasy because both of them i imagine, i imagine that i missed it so that that opens and the way to the resolution of all the problems. and so that is so they are very, very good position and that the russian federation is taking. we explained that some of our interventions that relate to that. for instance, i've been talking to the civilians in, in savannah. i've spoken to jenna about on a and so what a lot of it has been. so then these people to find the piece and the demo present
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that they need and that would then maintain going back to it with that i sent revision. so that we can act to get that one on month as of that guy. so there are no data that grade readiness funded by the foreign minister, including the and did this deputy for it, and then somebody on of the big great readiness to co operate with us and whatnot government. we added that one big foundation by the editor at d at to co operate with us as we did with these challenges on the african continent . right now you, you mentioned the, the, the issues of israel and palestine of the 2 states. so there's something, something you have measurements, you've talked about this, i guess one that's 2 big gratifications. so as, as to how challenging would it be to achieve the 2 state solution. this is this band with the united missions over the years,
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but we have them still be able to achieve that. why is it so difficult to achieve? when it's, it's a, it's a position fence. so for all of the palestinians, eh, given what does happen in terms of the creation of the state of these rights in the end, what do we do? so i'm going to buy this thing and so, so for that grade that okay, let's have a state to state solution on the basis of the night, this is a 7 board us and would they have capital in a is the rest of them. and they did all of that, and the, i think they the what is a big step is that is there any government has consistently been working. but typically with the got to this settlement is on the west bank to undermine the possibility for the majors of that 2nd. second state as
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is necessary to go back to the negotiations to create the 2nd viable state a of the police didn't. and people in waiting in the context of within the framework that they've said like the good citizen and bought this. so i, i think they're part of the big challenge is the best way these really government city actually genuinely development and rep aspect of, of that. okay. right, we're seeing the rise of the global south economically, politically and so mean so many of that dimensions. what opportunities do you think exist, you know, for on the, on the global platform for the global self, wednesday, if you are right indeed the with countries like china now, like in the ad growing as a, that's, as they have been. it improves the positions of the grow by solved as old. and
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one of the issues that we've really been raising is, is a fate. the fate of this us, that never development was the agenda during the 38 of, of the united nations. because as you know, look at all of those sustainable development goals or 70 number that they have to do with addressing the challenges of the girl by itself, the annual fall but to the annual band guy that brought by hes the facilities and saw the agenda issue this is a queen, defend chalet, solve issues, and a big, big major problem is major problem is, was made by the way that in 2015 to say we agree. on the 17th i set number of goals, which must be achieved by the, at the end of it,
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we are nowhere anywhere near a, globally, given those goals. so the, the, the, the, the global south thing, the global. so there's an obligation really to take up this much because of what his ends up was, are saying that the, the general assembly of the united nation is now in september. did the review of where are we with the got to assess the net develop and goes halfway through. and they said half way through. we've only actually moved 15 percent, 15 percent of the targets that we have. it means for the i'm a half now you have an obligation to much of the 85 percent and, and the sums of money. what to spend and all that. do i, chief this gold scores by doing that that, that huge $3.00 to $3.00 to $4000000000.00. a 3,
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a $3.00 to $4.00 trillion dollars a in on that to, to for the next 7. this was, was all of this money going to come from now i'm say they drove myself as an obligation really to push to make sure that this because i didn't, did realized is in the end as of this off ended in january this year. that was, is related to as admitting in, in of, i'd like to buy it by the representatives of 2025 countries of this off. and they were discussing the fact that in 1974, the un general assembly adopted that declaration and a program of action. and for the creation of a new international economic odd not the arrows then
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because of this in the equality in balance between the develop no summer and north end to go by. so let's therefore have this new international economic or that we're just going to address that a declaration and for them of action. but in reality, nothing happened in them act. so these are and if i've done this, which meant to not run in january, i say next year 2024 is a 50 at then invest that of that option of that declaration. and therefore, we must aim to ensure that intended directly for next to really in states that process of the creation of a new international economic order is, must become part of the global effort. again that, that as a go by itself that might now be best suited through it. just $7.00 to $7.00 bus
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train is going to be unplugged and that's the global house comes behind that effort. because that effort above, i've described a new internationally economy or that it has to it is it is to address the development, the marginalization of what, of, of the kinds of the sauce and, and, and with the increasing strength of the global i solved, as i say, with kind of like china, we're kind of like in the process, the lens on and i think we drove ourselves is much better place now than it was done is i will i to make sure that that and initiative like that of moving forward with regard to that new international as you call them, a good is actually realized. all right, mister president, let's talk about the,
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the african renaissance that to use that for you have pushed that for over the years and so on. in fact, it's been getting cascading to the average african but talk to us what challenges spend us up stucco to like painting or cheating? that's the vision. i think the 1st thing is that is an exception. acceptance or that vision. and the end of conscious best suits to say we as of the gains, need the lead back of the function and the renaissance of the funder and across the board. and then once and we have what method with that gun trust me. i mean, once, once you have a dead body of opinion on activist contracts active boost, then it as replacing, all right, in terms of at the end of funds,
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how does that impact on the ads? why do we do with music and isn't that demand? how does it impact on the economy? how does it didn't banker in education? why does impact on why definitely. so i'm saying the critical element is the i don't think that a, as i forget, we have develop guy said sufficiently punch and dies dollars. so that's, i present it to be able to be driving for us for that renaissance is necessary to impossible. and the, i do see a wedding in guinea cannot pre, eh, an adverb to a hosting. and i forgot they, they host. and then i forgot the nature of the game in and made this year. and the investor as good as that around the for not getting involved and didn't do that very keen to be part of at the end. the sensible man did not forget renaissance
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movement precisely in order to raise this level of consciousness and commitment. so i, i think that's our major task to make sure that we actually build the ad punch as an activist and active as i mean for the renaissance of as it does estimates, i totally agree, let facing the african g d p, especially on the sub saharan we saw fine africa has seen new net progress in the last few decades. and all of that. how can we begin to see the big economic growth on the african continent you what we're talking about, the new africa renewed africans so on. how do we begin to see the big growth on the continent? i think if you look at the, the reports a, of the african development bank of the you and you've got an information for africa . i'm the well bang, eh,
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i am f indeed. even them. i think that you would find one of the conclusions is and what is slowing down to put the entry out of south side and not for them in terms of growth? i did made jake on them is in that region, south africa. so i'm not going to be going to amazing, very bad shape. so it pulls down everybody as design jet and you call them in. so in that you and. ready dismayed job, lance is them, is them that that pulling down this is in the range of growth of g in terms of soft, soft fine or not. so we need to focus on a while is gotten to such as a solid golfing. and i agree with that. and so we, it's all about for gains, need to focus on sorting out the programs on the cell for any part of them. because
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the more develop in economy declines, the more it brings down uh, that vendors on, on today. so we'd like to attend the drought this and i'm saying suddenly and it started off again days. but all of us see all of the good parts of the organizations i've mentioned that would say that but is impacted negatively on this quote. i the big countries and then stop sign up for it. and so you update all of them of love to attend to this month of the challenge of achieving the necessary hi out of a sense of staying the rates of growth. let's talk about the issues of ministry. cruise on the continent of africa is not needed to ministry cruise in the sixties and the 70s pop of the eighty's. and then we're seeing, you know, who was coming back again in the 21st century. we've seen it, and molly recede, need a couple, you know, a,
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so what is your assessment of the cruise on the african continent right now, they all claim to one way or the other, trying to solve the african problem, the of the they have to take away what the issue is, uh, you know, what's real assessment of that? no, i think it's a, it's added up for the inflection. it'd be this close to that talking about is that a reflection of the failure of the democratic system? in fact, to go off again, countries and i know i'm kind of for instance, that does had some cause, but a lot of a democratic elections. but in the end, do they do find that, then there's a cool and kind of even now there's a 1000000 to government that they say that if we look at that goal is real, that the s and last at 50 you'll find that that we have this democratic elections and all that,
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but in fact, always being changed in 3 families. that was an 18. and so in the end, the population get set up with this democratic system is not working. let's break it all in some instances said in west africa a you've had incentives way and the youngest or just maybe may, may have a forget to for the minute that right, that, that what in uniform this is a use would then come to realize ation that we're might even have had the succession of a, a democratic elections. but these people that we can't relate to, people who've never broken from fresh go to negative a new name. all of the agreements that the former from
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a form congress signed would fries as a go to independence. many of them remain with us like agreements to do it the minutes really based on the language and all of these things. so i'm saying young people say that with this black we've been elected so many times. they in fact they've been called but a all by they do within the context of the know, put on the framework that established. but i have friends with the fact that independence now the for that now the young people went in uniforms. so they would then use guns to remove this politicians. would they say how compromised? because the idea that they've got tight defense meal for the analysis and we want to break so i'm saying that's why i'm saying it's a failure of the democratic systems. so in the and to get there early, 10 research at the end of the
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in the many cases in many instances who can do, can't blame that. if you look closely at this democratic system, that democrats then that's been going on it practically. what does it mean? i'm saying you can't blame them, but that is what i understand why they act in particular ways. as i say, what is i guess the new york or the new york or you're not just for the dish, it was the end for election. i never heard good language and they get directed by the substance. the appraiser at present is something that is wrong. so in a definitely i think as i forget this type of the end of the question like real asking about enough again, renaissance because when we say and he was africa heavy at a ball, not for that with the sense what kind of polluted on on that good, what,
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what kind of political assistant and as you would know, i mean in our case and this off again case in the a and c case. our basic basic document says that the books i've got now is when we book in the, in the power we ask ourselves how to give expression to the not the part did that just wind the elections shut off by the peoples of but how do i arrange the, the, the political constitutional order so that the muscles of the people have a sense of co participating in the government and determining that one church. that's part of the thoughts when you say enough, again, in a sense, in the politics and government is you go to answer the question, what does it mean?
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and did come to me as admittedly that do i do? if i'm, if i do, i do get the liked it is good to go beyond that way. either people a given i knew a big time, a government, to what extent is government driven by the consciousness that it's elected to save that people not, not for but big people to send for us at the vendor tract. i'm saying i'm that's part of your off again, renaissance to define your ability got on to but it's, i'm sense of the failure of i've come across is that then cottages did the 10 of the core data a because the political systems and individuals countries and
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in many kinds individual candice failure to to address the challenges facing is the challenge. and so we have to look at the, the end result and resolve the problem is in this topic. so we talk about the african, the average of attendance, the one who suffers from the breakdown or that conflicts, probably spencer in sit down. you mentioned that separate times to challenge you seems to done at also able to ends in bob boy where there's the political issues of these on the p, f and the opposition. and so all of that you intervened in some of those. how do we begin to get chief to the solution issue as to how african leaders come come together to say no, you shouldn't go beyond this level. would remember that what they used to be this? um, i think a peer review mechanism which you will pop of the buffering at the time you for my president of my job to show the boss and job. and so many of us, how do we begin to bring back that consciousness amongst african leaders in solving
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your own problem on the, on the, on the continent? is it, as well as saying that i think one of our major challenges is that rebuilding a of the african renaissance movement a, those are he inject into the, i forget my, to this concept they'll say and after that one. so because you'd like to discuss, in what sense do you see at what point where you say i forgot the very bottom that has been that in a sense. and what is it that will have happened to it is ogden, you know, same, has been identified the peer review mechanism, a executive part of that process that the african need as african lead as good sit together as p. s. and say we need to look at some of the for that in order to
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assess it, according to the following criteria, is informed by that understanding of your tests, whatever. and the sense once and once i've understanding goes down, then you started say no, but i did do that. domestic might. that's what i do. i've been cleaned up. you end up missing, my gosh. that sense of being p is really out of out. forget would come on task or develop a particular offer that disappears with that consciousness. i bought the sun sort of recording tonight. so i really, as i say i, i think we're kind of void in on the fundamentally to avoid all of these are directions and, and definitely even re energizing processes like the peer review mechanism. get the muscles of the different on the continent. the ability to got an organization is in trade unions and judges and laws and everybody what's going on
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with united way united, the best bag development. i forget that in a sense and much defined, smith century gutted. and then the sides of the i c n. as in the ads, what does it mean and decides in economic, what does it mean in politics, etc? without done to it is situations very, very, but then it's, they just as like the peer review american is waiting for it to. it is a good to go to challenge on the continent, including as i say, 11 more course military. because if you don't have a sentiment, a view that every one of evaluating you'd offer a di renaissance offered. you can be characterized by millions articles was my so was must
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a candidate that is and i forgot to be born is that the people governing and definitely they had known as need to resort to um, so fiber on that guy. and as opposed and all this to go to the governing together, they defy they, pottery very, not physically. but in the end, the marriage with the solution to the products. then you will, you want to, of course, but i'm saying at the base of it is the construction of a political system, the political mobilization, which focuses the minds of africans on the task over of renaissance. let's talk about breaks. uh, the south africa it's is, is very critical, very central, also to visual breaks. what special does the brakes have as a new mechanism for global governance? what's your view of that? what i, i, my view really is that it breaks break still as to breaks.
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the task back to define is tasks. you've got the big bang that just clear will come to that as a big countries and put in our money and so on. and that would be this bang, which was the address challenges of basic gun the guns of this off large part of it is info site development. that's clear. but what as, as breaks come together to do, i think that's a month and that, but it still needs to defy. is it the have common political body image goes on those kinds of politics. is it united? is it a to address my does
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a presence i could've been stability in the went or just send the big sconces or whatever. no, not i doing that today. the brakes as really a very, very important products to define it. so we exist for the federal purposes and when now in the last segment to break. so i mentioned and enjoyed this rec, when it's a document that you members what with the criteria. why just got to do this. why didn't not that run? it's on the like, there was a reasoning behind it, i've no doubt is that i still not behind it, but i'm saying that as a citizen, i don't know it's in that sense that i'm saying that i think breaks needs to define it says, clearly we have breaks and we come together on the
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