the, the, the red carpet is rolled down for the arabian president told me to let him it put him in the heart of moscow on topic i just raise the price is a policy side, and the no stop car the, i'd to connect, the nation's also ahead to this is just a few united states. he didn't charge it turned out that in practice, been extremely there allies. that's a russian president, the underscoring that moscow believes in the global economic model of body fat. something that he says is disregarded by western partners on the southern gallon and set you a rough comes on there. he is rarely attacked. and the area of the enclave refugees were ordered to by the idea of to allegedly find safety.

but that is the headlines. our paying for speak with our team to national will bring you more updates at the moment. yeah, next is costa. of the the hello and welcome to cross ok. we're all things are considered. i'm peter lavelle, the slaughter and suffering. and guys that continue unabated is real appears not only determined to eliminate the robots, but the palestinians living and gaza as well. this is all the possible with the blessing of the united states. this murderous affair is being under written by joe biden, in the name of the american people, the

cross up in palestine. i'm joined by my guess, lionel and new york. he's a legal and media analyst in toronto. we have do the thoughts. she is a member of independent jewish voices, canada, and be real. we cross who love her dumb. she is a man to expert and independent work reporter or across our girls. and in fact, that means we can jump anytime you want. and i always appreciate line and let me go to you 1st here. i want to give you a quote and i'd like your reaction. we have a retired id of general named. it's ok, a break, a quote. all of our missiles, the ammunition, the precision, guided bombs, all of the planes, and bombs. it's all from the us. the minute they turn off the tap, you can't keep fighting. you have no capability. everyone understands that it cannot fight this war without the united states. so this is america's war and it's a choice line, or you could have taken that same quote, peter, and apply the word ukraine to could have been from zalinski. it could have been and

here's the best part. americans maintain this, this almost this perpetual ambulatory confusion. this detachment, we are unable to fight any wars here. number one, we are as in the most power on this, rebecca nomic times. we have cities that are actually being clabbered by crime. in my city of new york, we're coming back on police and fire to handle people from other countries. and yet, while this is going on, the american public as a, an election is coming for nobody seems to be even remotely involved in this. because peter, i think there's something weird that's almost organic. we have this almost patel or obeisance. pavlovian believe that all wars are good and that if we are involved in a war, it is so facto correct and noble. and we have to disabuse ourselves and disconnect ourselves of this. i don't think the american public has any idea of the question

is, where are we getting the money? what is the end the game and is collin palmer said, if you break it, you own it. well, the world's going to be broken, who's going to own it? who's going to put it back together again? now, what are the course? well, we're in recent public opinion show up also that the majority, in some cases, super majorities want to cease permanency fire in gaza though the leads act otherwise, like they did with you, create a to defy if i can go to you. i mean, i'm sure you're well aware unfortunately, that the us congress, not the smartest people in the room passed the resolution that um, but the essentially criminalizes being a anti zionist with being anti semitic. now to this, i would assume that you are not a self hating do i would assume that you are not anti semitic, but they're passing these kinds of resolutions in your name and i'm an american citizen. they're doing it in mining mine or as an american citizen. they're doing

it in his name. judith. yes, i'm, i'm speaking for myself. what i'll do. i'm also a member of independent jewish choices. um, but i, when i, i think that in some around is to blame the public thing. people um, you know, it's, it's particular particular groups, particular interest and so on, you know, in the united states and our countries in terms of anti semitism and to criticizing is a, you know, it's, it's an absurd allegation. um, you know, it criticizing israel and the people, the jewish citizens, israel is very factual. you know, 95 percent 90 to 95 percent of his release of approved air freely you know, horrible massacre and the sea to gaza. you know,

that i think is 55 awful massacres, you know, involving many beaches of international law. easy use of, of illegal weapons and so on the destruction of the house interest structure. so this is a different from anti semitic. the sholpes and images of the jewish people. the people also amenable in irony is that people like or but the new president of the i was in tina this of christians zionist hagi, raced by a is really by meta now who and by the, you know, the jewish, the, uh, the people who are, who are defending this resolution. ready you know, they're the ones who are using the 19 and holocaust images of jewish

people. yeah. so in word, it's very upset into zionism. i deal as harris, so him and others have, you know, idolized a different kind of jewish person. they themselves have these antisemitic images and they wanted to create, you know, um, a new jew who's modeled on the american cowboy and on oppression. the aristocrats. so the whole thing is very, you know, a store called all yeah, it's, well, and it's very dangerous too because it makes it, makes people act in the worst possible way. i'd like to point out to everyone in the united states. you can criticize the u. s. government, you can criticize other states in the union, but now you can criticize a foreign country. how did we get here? let me go to you and be route on the west is likes the band, the about the word genocide, and it's always against their foes,

their adversaries. and it's always in my mind, it's an exaggeration almost all the time. but it's almost kind of foreboding to use the word genocide. now if this isn't a genocide that's being played out and gone, so then what is a genocide? can you explain that to our viewers? and i have to explain one thing i've lived under the occupation for almost most of my life. and the desk of one person is one to many, the death of done the death of $100.00. that the death of 1000? no. if we'd crossing the $15000.00 mark, when are they going to call it a genocide? it's a genocide that says it's not the genocide, it's a hold of course. and if they don't want to call it the genocide, basically, then we shouldn't be going any of the must because what happens to alton city of genocide or holocaust. so the idea when you have over 40000 injured people and over 15000, that's mostly women and children. that's a genocide. and it's a shame on the west and was not the basically a good night that the such because i've been biased towards, is there is they are giving as we and community. they are having it through like

the bulk international know and continued to commit murder against innocent children, women as early as man, but a sinews are natives, a father style. and because they are defending their rights and lives of human beings. after basically being living for almost a decades and slaves by that is read is not allowed to be. it's not the love to travel, not allowed to move as it is created. then basically, uh, what, whatever happens to them according to the west is nothing because because of the name of this is not acceptable. well, what light or what has happened to international humanitarian law? what state no state in the west can ever invoke it again, because it is become a no in void. there is no such thing that i mean, because you cannot have international humanitarian law with an exception. you can't do it that way. then all of the, then all of it's void vinyl. you know, peter, i'm a lawyer by profession. that's why i'm asking you, that's why i'm asking you, yes,

yes and, and i am, i, i, i tend to lean always towards parsing and articulating the definition. then we get into this kind of a socratic or what about this and that i've never seen anybody or any other situation where it is clear where, where is i get. it's either a part tied or, or ethnic cleansing, or, or whatever you want to call it, seizure. and it, all of these words are applied and we did it to america to vietnam and we, we have no problem with this. for some reason, when it comes to this particular instance, all goes out the window. we say, well, i don't know if this is a par tied technically. when you hear nelson mandela, who i think knows a little bit more about it, use the term you get well, you know, he did, that was, then, you know, one of the things to, i must say this, this notion of zionism. and this idea of america is a particular say well, why don't we just, why do we just have people just leave?

why don't we just have people just leave it with a you, you know, your utah is available? why don't we just leave? i loved the fact that we think humans are chess pieces that we can move or in fact, years ago, i never forget this. whenever the, the notion of zionism 1st happened. there were a lot of americans who are closeted anti semite, to say this site. and there's a mr. river dead, amada here, go. but they pretended they pretended that just, we're with you. and then we have the eschatological christians, who also hide behind something. there really isn't some a connection with the land, per se. so we have all of these crypt, it kind of a camouflage people pars the words in order to fit the narrative they want. i still say like we, we said before, if i remove the term israel, palestine, i put party in the 1st board party. the 2nd part you wouldn't be able to handle, you would be a, have a much easier time addressing this. but when you put the identities of these countries and it changes everything completely, you know, eric judith,

what's really sickening for it to watch all of this here is that we have the netanyahu government, we've, you know, they've been leaked documents about how they want to displace push the palestinians of gaza into the cyanide and countries in the air world don't want to participate in essentially, what would be a genocide, certainly ethnic cleansing. judith, this is just to clarify something about the genocide part. i think it's very clear in the, even before the holocaust, that the intention was to by design, this was to read palestine, the palestinians. you on pub paint documents this the then the valet plan before it was put in place the in before the holocaust. i think there's a problem with, of course the, you know, the idea is that everybody can be expelled, which would be to, you know,

to the sign i, that's the last thing i read to you. or, you know, it would be the, the responsibility of egypt to take 10 of these refugees. um, you know, its, its genocide by and by the understanding the sense of the word not parsing it out as then so much by the, you know, the, the highly legalized jew to, to, to the, sorry, ju, them, i have to jump in here. we have to go to a hard break and after that a hard break. we'll continue our discussion on palestine. stay with our team. the

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polls. and i'm going through the syllabus for my own way. this the football slim shy, right? i'm like, i'm assuming because of the issue with this. is this the welcome back to across software. all things are considered. i'm peter lavelle to mind you were discussing the events unfolding in palestine. the okay, let's go back to toronto, judith, i'm sorry, had to interrupt. you could please continue with your comments. okay. now i was,

uh, i think that the problems are both complicated in a sense, but also very simple. you know, i think it's very clear. israel's intent to, you know, to eliminate palestinians. and a lot of the parsing around the genocide law has to do with with is there's an intent and who is the that it's not so. so to is the intent articulated by, you know, um, everything it, you know, and in often jewish disclose goes back to the model of the holocaust and interact israel was reluctant to recognize any other genocide. that's right other than their own. so, you know, in the u. n has been really, don't be hard left just around this, but so many things that it's highlighted by the response to, you know, to this, that, you know, good tears is, is so incompetent. i think that the whole structure of the you and the security

council and so on, the, you know, going back to all is the mass occurs and so on. in, in israel, in garza, you know, the, you and you know, often declares it's almost a humanitarian disaster. it's almost is, it could be, you know, it is the same thing with the, you know, salvation of people around the world, you know, could be a disaster. so, you know, the color, surf, i sat, the others you know is, is really for, you know, so glaring with respect to this cause, you know, this current, horrible, you know, atrocity well, but when it gets to that, i mean it is number one, it shocks the conscience and then if you just watch, then you're, you're part of the problem and i think that's what so many of us feel watching this

feeling powerless because our leaders are blinded by new liberal ideology and historical prejudices. and why don't i get a being for political gain, all of the short sighted things when we're losing our human, we on collectively losing our too many team by watching this here, let me go back to you and, and be rude. one of the things that's really quite surprising this time round is that is really, hasbro has not worked very well. they've been caught a deceiving people lying people, you know, all of their evidence of this and that we have this latest weapon, ization of rape without any evidence whatsoever. i mean, they are going to great lengths to change the topic and it, israel is the victim. go ahead and be room of israel is the only case of an entity, the police, the victim for getting somebody. so basically they think that all of

a victim while they are getting the victim. and um, i am very happy to actually to see the collective consciousness around the world and culture around the world. people are taking so to it, there's the social media to fight that this propaganda. nobody buys, it's really propaganda anymore. and the bus is there. i'd have to stick to one negative and then we're just sort of mainstream, medium social media wasn't that strong. but now with the nation's social media like this, can you change everybody to fonts, to, to use your tablet, whatever you go through your watches, people are not opening their minds. i'm here on a week. it's, it's such like, and most of the slides are still flag against without any evidence. people get hard as best as one point or another. i also want to thank a collective hard work for you, not only people across the world, but also reporters across the world with the time to actually box those. for me, i got the notice and it was so easy to do it. i'm, i'm one of those people and i saw that's very,

very weird. that is read his art of just throwing anything, any propaganda. and they hoping that it's 6 and everything is just one of the parts . yeah, i've been, i've been watching the evidence quote and quote here, and it's so easily debunked, i mean very easily and very quickly debunk to pay off a picture of a rape victim. and then a report or an investigative person said, now that's a picture from curtis san. okay, that's from the car as a courtesy picture from a year ago, 2 years ago, that's not today. and it was just the bunk. and these people that did this, that print this and send it out on social media as evidence. they're not even ashamed of themselves. they say thank you for your, for your interest. i mean it's, it's shameless. what's going on or lot, lionel, is there anything that's going to reverse the bye? didn't ministration is my the 1st quote i read here from the retired id of general . yeah, it's a break. i mean, he says it all here. i mean, so the balls and in vitamins corner here,

but he doesn't seem to have any inkling to change course, whatsoever. is it politics? is it 90 ology? is it prejudiced? why, as it is a wealth 1st, i don't want to jump on the binding bandwagon. peter let, let's just read now there is the byron power. you had to hold people accounts in our go ahead so i understand that respond the superior or, you know, he has to take the blame for this. but, but he, he, he's not really, i don't know who, who's pulling his strings. but i gotta say one thing about this, you know, marshall mcluhan had this great line. one time they said that little lies are hard to keep under wraps. but big lies are easy based on your income, julie, the greater the worst z if i were to say, for example, that in egypt that we're at right now, there's a group of people who is involved in a satanic image section in animal sacrifice. people would say, oh my god, the, the horrors, what basically forage there believe not cause question. remember the woman who said

though she testified among the people how she saw people during the rapport pull babies, how to make your beta. and it was so horrible. yeah, for you to even question it, when ever you question something that is so horrible. this is when you should be even more scrupulous because once and here's the thing, once you are caught in a lie, whatever it is, this is a real life or international politics. you are forever changed and nobody believes you anymore. so the course you right now is peter, here as, as we are $300.00 or something days until the election. the 0 there seems to be this, the sleep walking on the part of the, of the democratic party. they don't really know, because let me just say to me, very quickly, the people, everything has changed. we have a very serious, yours contingent in this country that were represented historically, a pretty solid, liberal base historically now fighting, joining sides with a hard core. and usually these we air quotes right wing a people and you have

a complete switch. your role would change, you know, partners. so i do not believe the democrats in particular have the, the political, we're was off to be able to please this for the chest to make sure that their message comports with whoever is going to be making the decision in 2024. so just hold your breath and watch. yeah, well i don't understand why it's just hard to say killing people is wrong funding people that kill people is wrong and you can't really do it in my name. this is not complicated stuff, folks do to, you know, there's going back to the issue of zionism and anti semitism. what, what is it? what is attractive in the west about zine is and because all through my life i've been around jews and most of them just say i don't have anything to do with that. that's not judaism, that's not my state. and they are really insulted when people think that all dues are design is well i, i think you're,

you're right, you know, this is a large, obviously, you know, many jewish people are utterly appalled. just like the, i think the majority is people, you know, by all the demonstrations all over the world are really appalled. you know, it's hard to, it's hard to understand the, the individual thinking life is, you know, this group kinds of dynamics put in terms of people, you know, who in any way can don't. the other cool teen said is so good to it is you know, sadism, you know, telling babies in incubators is so total, you know, it's like a, it's like, worse than, you know there's,

there's so many horrible wars of atrocities. but this is, it seems to me the very worst manifestation of a cold t. this perpetrated without any hesitation, without any kind of call, no moral conflicts. so uh, you know, uh, coming back to you, you mention new products. so i think that that's, you know, in terms of who's behind all the power, you know, that there's the political audiological purposes many ties between israel and the most autocratic governments all over the world are, has been for a long time, you know, including certainly the united states, so the raving and so on. you know that there's a very, very extensive military, a connection, like you know, in terms of manufacturing weapons components. you know,

the use of surveillance. the use of is really police tactics. you know, in the united states, india. and so on. so you know that the, there's an independent economy to israel, that's very dependent on weapons. and this is already connected with the u. s. canadian, a german and so on. weapons the home weapons. well, a j, judith a baby is even as really weapons has gone into the hands of neo nazis and ukraine is very well documented there. you know, let's go back to her. let's go back to be relate. like, you know, you, you talked about the change of consciousness. i think that could be if there's any possibility of a silver lining here. when i saw american jews take over a central station and the train station in new york, you know, thousands of them wearing black shared saying not in my name,

not again that gate. they've brought a tear to my eye because it really showed that there is a consciousness out there and people will not be a little bit. they're not, they're not going to be used as objects. ok, and there is a consciousness that something terribly wrong is going on and i hope people pay for the consequences. go ahead and be rude, as well as you know, you can live to some of the people all the time. you can live to all of the people some of the time, but you can apply to all of the people, all of the time. and people across the world are starting, as i said to a week to this, this flood of life by the is radius. and the jews across the world as well. those who refuse to follow that genocide, the mindset of desire. basically, i'm finally coming out and they do have a voice. no, they do have a police story to, for, for the most reach, which is social media and people supporting them from across the worth. nothing. my name finally, and this is what gave them strength of the collective conscious. as you said,

that goes to work. that actually is helping them go up and saying that my name as well as human beings across the world are starting. but the thing is based on humanity and nothing goes. but i also want to to point the one thing is which is i've got, i'm sorry, i have to jump in here. we run out of time. absolutely fascinating. discussion and very humanistic. i must say, i want to think my guess in new york around to and in bay will. and of course i want to thank our viewers for watching us here at our to see you next time. remember across the top of the, [000:00:00;00] the now can you use visa, stupid lloyd?

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