the issues that exist between your country and, and russia in the area of cooperation policies, so on while is in to do a byproduct. we am, as we are arrived in a most core, the foreign minister loved rob for a said a really like has to meet, which we did at the know of any interest that day to discuss that as part of the parties, the questions of cause not directly as we would expect, the belief does on the positions of the russian federation towards this conflict. and you agree it did dante debris for us to make sure that at least we understand that they are position positions of the government. we did not do that, but then we discussed questions like a conflict cut in good faith in israel and balancing and gaza. and then they would take the same positions in terms of ending that and then that

is that's, that's the problem. and then says fi and i tend to the matter of the building creation of, of to, to space, which is a sub to education. and, but those are then discuss the operating issues like legs are done in the interests of the russian government to a that'd be conflicted the district too much. and that the, i'm debating the military to groups. and so don, this about the on forces ended up rapids up what forces must recognize that the military organizations need to end of this sort of thing. and then need to add that dresser. might that all of them the acting incomes come kind of queasy? because both of them a nation and i should not say i miss this is so that, that the opens and the way to the resolution of all the problems. and so that is so

that they are very, very good position and that the russian federation is taking. we explained that some of our interventions relate to that from incense i've been talking to the civilians in, in savannah. i've spoken to jenna bought on there. and so what involved in helping us with that newspaper defined the piece and the demo present that they need and that would then maintain going back to it with that i sent revision so that we can act together on, on month, as of that guy. so where are know that great readiness on the part of the foreign minister encouraging and did these deputy for admin somebody on of the be great readiness to co operate with us and whatnot government. we had did that one big

foundation by the editor at t at decal operate with us as we're dealing with these challenges on the african continent. right now you, you mentioned the, the, the issues of israel and palestine of the 2 states. so there's something, something you have measurements, you've talked about this, i guess one of us to big clarification. so as, as to how challenging would it be to achieve the 2 state solution. this has this band with the united nations over the years, but we have them still be able to achieve that. why is it so difficult to achieve? when it's, it's, this is a position, 1st of all, all of the palestinians. eh, given what does happen in terms of the creation of the state of these rights in the end, what do we do? so i'm going to file as soon as i find that great that ok, let's have a state to state solution. on the basis of the night, this is the 7 board us and would that capital in a, is that or for them?

and they did all of that. and the i thing they the, what is a big step is that the is early government has consistently been working, but did live with the got to the settlements on the west, back to on the mind, the possibility for the mega as of that 2nd, 2nd state and it's necessary to go back to the negotiations to create the 2nd viable state a of the police didn't. and people in the way they put in the context within the framework that they've said like the good citizen bought this. so i, i think they're part of the big challenge is the best way these really government city actually genuinely it difficult me to drip aspect of,

of that guy. right. we're seeing the rise of the global south economically, politically and so making so many, all that dimensions what opportunities you think exist, you know, for on the, on the global platform for the global south. where the, you are right. indeed, the with countries like china now like in the ad growing as a is as they have been improved the positions of the globe i solved as old. and one of the issues that we've really been raising is, is a fate. the fate of decides that never development goals, the agend that during the 30 a of, of the united nations. because as you know, look at all of those sustainable development goals or 17 of them as they have to do with addressing the challenges of drove us off the annual fall.

but to the annual band guy that brought by has the facilities and so on. the agenda issue is that a queen to essentially solve issues. and a big, big major problem is major problem is was made by the way that in 2015 to say we agree on the 17. so i said number goals, which must be achieved by the, at the end of it, we are nowhere anywhere near, globally, actually in those goals. so the, the, the, the, the global south think the global. so there's an obligation really to take up this much because the fund is ends up as are saying that the, the general assembly of the united nation is now in september. did the review of

where are we with the got just less than that, but the development goes all the way through. and they said half way through. we've only actually moved 15 percent, 15 percent of the targets that we have. it means for the i'm a half, now you have an obligation, go to the 85 percent and, and the sums of money, what to spend and all that. like if this goes, goes by doing that, that, that huge $3.00 to $3.00 to $4000000000.00 a year to year 3 to $4000000.00 a in order to, to, for the next 7. this was, was all of this money going to come from. now i'm say drove myself as an obligation really to push to make sure that this because i didn't, did realized is in the interests of this off ended in denver this year. that was, is related to as admitting in the not true,

but it by the representatives of 2025 kinds of this off. and they were discussing the fact that in 1974 the u. n. general assembly adopted that declaration and a program of action. and for the creation of a new international economic on my diet rose then because of this inequality in balance between the develop north summer and north end to grow by itself. let's definitely have this new international economic or that we're just going to address that declaration and for them of action. but in reality, nothing happened in them act. so this $25.00 countries which met the knob on in january, i say, next year 2024 is

a 50 at then invest that of that option of that declaration. and therefore, we must aim to ensure that intended directly for next to really in states that process of the creation of a new international economic on that it must become part of the global effort. again, that, that's, that's as a go by itself. that might now be best suited through it. just $7.00 to $7.00 plus train is going to be important and that's the global solves, comes behind that effort or that effort above i've described a new internationally going to me or that it has to. and it is, it is to address the development to marginalize, asian, what of, of the kinds of the sauce and, and,

and with the increasing strength of the global i solved, as i say with kind of like i know we're kind of like in the process, the lens on and i think we drove us off. this is much better place now than it was done is i will have to make sure that an initiative like that of moving forward with the address that union doesn't actually calling in regard is actually realized. all right, mister president, let's talk about the, the african really songs that to use that for you have pushed that for over the years and so on. in fact, it's been getting cascading to the average african. but talk to us what challenges spend us up stucco to like painting or cheating that vision? i didn't. the 1st thing is there is an exception. acceptance or that vision. and the end of conscious best suits to

say we as of the games need, the lead back of the continent, the renaissance of the thunder and across the board. and then lunches. and we have what method with that gun. trust me. i mean, once, once you have a that body of opinion on activist contracts active boost, then it as boys in all right, in terms of the funds, how does that impact on the ads? what do we do with music and does it not demand? how does it impact on the economy? how does it impact an education loud, buzzing back on why? definitely. so i'm saying the critical element is the i don't think that a, as i forget, we have develop guy said sufficiently punch and dies that i said. so i presented to

me at to be able to be driving for us for that renaissance, if necessary, and possible. and the, i do see a wedding in guinea cannot pre a, as an option to a hosting. and i forgot they, they host and then i forgot the electron begins and made this year. and the message to that is that around the, for not getting involved and didn't do that very keen to be part of atlanta signs movement. and that's going to run this as movement precisely in order to raise this level of consciousness and commitment. so i, i think that's our major task. to make sure that we, we actually build the ad punch as an activist and active as i before. the renaissance of, of, that's estimates. i totally agree with facing the african gdp, especially on the sub saharan. we saw fine africa has seen new nets progress in the

last few decades. and all of that. how can we begin to see the big economic growth on the african continent you what we're talking about, the new africa renewed africans so on. how do we begin to see the big growth on the continent? i think if you look at the, the reports a, of the african development bank of the you and you've gotten the permission for africa on the west bank. and i am f indeed even them. i think you would find one of the conclusions is and what is slowing down to put the entry out of south side and not for that in terms of growth. i did major economies in that region, south africa. so i'm not going to go in amazing, very bad shape. so it pulls down everybody as design jet and you call them in. so

in that you need this made job for that, is them, or is them that pulling down? this is in the range of growth of gigi in depth on some stuff that are not for it. so we need to focus on a while. it's got to be such as a solid buffer. again, i agree with that. and so we, it's all about friends need to focus on sorting out the problems of this other friendly for them because the more develop in you're going to meet declines it more, it brings down i back vendors on on today. so we'd like to attend the drum and i'm saying suddenly and decided off again case. but all of us see all of the good parts of the organization. as i've mentioned. they would say that, but is in thinking negatively on this quote. i the big countries in install time and effort and so you update all of them of what to attend to this month of the

challenge of achieving the necessary high out of a sense of state, the rates of growth. let's talk about the issues of ministry. cruise on the continent of africa is not needed to ministry cruise in the sixties and the 70s pop of the eighty's. and then we're seeing, you know, who was coming back again in the 21st century. we've seen it in molly recede, need a couple, you know, a, so what is your assessment of the cruise on the african continent right now, they all claim to one way or the other, trying to solve the african problem, the of the they have to take away what the issue is, uh, you know, what's real assessment of that? no, i think it's a, it's that for the inflection. it'd be this close. i'd read talking about decided flexion of the failure of the democratic system in, but to go off again, countries. and i know i'm kind of for instance,

that does add some cause, but a lot of a democratic elections, but in the and do they do find that then there's a cool and kind of even now there's a media to government that they say that if we look at that role is wrote that the s and plus at 50 you'll find that we have this democratic elections and all that. but in fact, always being changed in 3 families. that was an 18 and so in the and the population get fed up with that this democratic system is not working. let's break it all in some instances said in west africa a you've had incentives way and the youngest or just

maybe maybe i forget to for the minute that i thought that what in uniforms this is a use would then come to realize ation that we would might even have had the succession of a, a democratic elections. but these people that particularly i think people have never broken from physical or negative a miracle or name is all of the agreements that the from a, from a form congress signed would fries as a go to independence. many of them remain with those like agreements to do with the military, with, based on the language and all of these things. so i'm saying young people say that we've produced the black. we've been elected so many times. they in fact they've been called, but a all by they do within the context of the know, put on the framework that the stablished. but i have friends with the fact that

independence now go for that. now the young people went in uniforms. so they would then use guns to remove these politicians. would they say a compromised? because the idea that they've got tight defense in the industry and we want to break. so i'm saying that's why i'm saying it's a failure of the democratic systems. so in the and do get there early, 10 research as in w in the many cases in many is as you can do, can't blame them. if you look closely at this democratic system that democratic thing that's been going on practically, what does it mean? i'm saying you can't blame them, but that is what i understand why they act in particular ways. as i say, what is i like as to

a local you in new york or united disability shifts was done for election. i never heard good language and they get directed by didn't the substance and they're pretty, very present as something that is wrong. so in indefinitely, i think as i forget this part of the question that you were asking about an african renaissance. because when you say, and he was africa heavy at a born after that, what does the end a sense? what kind of polluted on, on that with what, what kind of political assistant? and as you know, i mean in our case, in the south african case in the amc case, our basic basic document says the books i've got now is when we book in the, in the power we ask, go on says how do give expression to not apply did i just wind the elections job

by the people? so i've got but how do i arrange the, the, the political constitutional order so that the muscles of the people have a sense of co participating in the government and getting them in that one church? that's part of the thoughts when you say enough, again, in the sense in the politics and government is you go to answer the question, what does it me and did come to me as admittedly that do i do? if i'm, if i do, i do get direct, it is good to go beyond that way. other people, even when you become a government, to what extent is government driven by the consciousness that it's elected to 70 people not, not for but big people to said for 7 retract. i'm saying i'm,

that's part of your off again renaissance to define your ability. got an order but it's, i'm sense of the failure of i come across is that then coverage is a very 10 of the core data a because the political systems and individual countries and in many kinds, individual kindest, 80 to, to address the challenges black facing so is the challenge and so we have to look at the, the end result and resolve the problem is but in this topics i would talk about the african, the average of attendance, the one who suffers from the breakdown or that conflict probably spends the insur down. you mentioned that several times to challenge you seems to done at also able to ends in by the way, where there's the political issues of these on the p,

f and the opposition. and so all of that you intervened in some of those. how do we begin to get teeth to the solution issue as to how african leaders come come together to say no, you shouldn't go beyond this level. would remember that what they used to be this? i think a peer review mechanism which you will pop of a buffering at the time you for my president of my job to show the busing job. and so many of us, how do we begin to bring back that consciousness amongst african leaders in solving your own problem on the, on the, on the continent? is it, as well as saying that i think one of our major challenges is that rebuilding of the african renaissance move from a 2 to 3 inject into the african mind. this concept will say and after that everyone is so because you'd like to

discuss in what sense do you say, at what point where you say i forgot the very bottom that has been added in a sense. and what is it that will ever happen to it is ogden. you're saying that's been evidence that the peer review mechanism, a executive part of that process. don't forget need as african lead as good sit together as p s. and say we need to look us up for that in order to assess it, according to the following criteria, is informed by that understanding of your time, sort of in a sense once and once the understanding goes down, then you started say no, but i did do that domestic, my does, i do, i'm going to end up. you end up missing, my gosh. that sense of being p is really out of out. forget with the common does to

develop a particular i forgot this up. yes. with that consciousness i bought the son sort of according to that. so i really, as i say i, i think we can avoid, in order to fundamentally, to avoid all of these are directions and definitely even re energizing processes like the peer review mechanism. get the most of the different on the continent. the organizations and trade unions and churches, and mosques and everybody, what going with united way united, the best bag development. i forget there in a sense and much defined smith's every gun. and then the sides of that i see at the end is less than that. it's what does it mean and decides in economic, what does it mean in politics and such a waste of that is situations very very, but then it's a just is like the peer review mechanism will fall to eh,

is a kindergarten challenge on the continent. enjoy doing as i say you level course military because if you don't have as sent them in their view that lead one of the week i renewed, offered i then assigned off if you can be categorized by military because what my son was my stay at kotik dyes and i forgot to be born is that the people that avenue and never had a note as need to his or to um, so 5 to one and i and it as opposed. i know this to the governing together. they defy, they got a exam a not physically, but in the end the marriage with the solution to their products. then you will, you want to of course, but i'm saying at the base of it is the construction of ability got

a system that for the mobilization which focuses the minds of africans on the task over overnight. in a sense. let's talk about bricks. a south africa it's is, is very critical of a central also to be sure big. what special does the brakes have as a new mechanism for global governance? what's your view of that? well i, i, my view really is that it breaks break still as to breaks. the task that define is tasks, you've got the big bang that is clear, we come to that as it breaks countries and put in our money and so on. and that would be this bang, which was the address challenges of basic other kinds of yourself. and the large part of it is inside the fact that development that's clear. but

what as, as breaks come together to do, i think that's a month that breaks the needs to defy. is it the have common political body in this case and was kind of politics. is it united? is it a to address month as a business i go to den stability in the went or just in the books countries or whatever? no, no, i think that to be the brakes as really a very, very important drivers to define it. so we exist for the federal purposes and when now in the last i meant to break. so i mentioned and enjoyed this rec, when it's a document that you remember what,

what the criteria why describe do this, why didn't not that run? and so that was like there was a reasoning behind it, i've no doubt that i should not behind it, but i'm saying that as a citizen, i don't know it's in that sense that i'm saying that i think breaks needs to define instead of getting it we have breaks and we come together on the basis of the following to do differently. i think that this digital. com. thank you mr. president for talking to i t think that stays live with us. the. the if you don't help the any human being collective or individual

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