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harassed beach and threatened as what a treated and you really think matter about the needs of the developer. thanks for stay with all the international next is cross to the hello and welcome to cross talk. we're all things are considered. i'm peter lavelle . the president of united states cause to real stir when speaking to congress, jo, by who brought up the possibility of american troops fighting russian troops. this is the state of the failed ukraine project facing failure on all fronts. biden's only option is to expand the call complex. really

the cross option ukraine i'm joined by my guess. got rid are in delmark. steve is a former intelligence officer and a united nations weapons inspector. and in nashville, we have steve gill. he is an attorney and political commentator hard gentleman, cross talk roles, and i think that means you can jump anytime you want. and i always appreciated. let me go to you 1st got zalinski, the president of ukraine, and a supplicant of the united states. and this affair here he's visiting, i guess, but as we're speaking now, joe biden, what do you think that conversation is going to be about scott a look, this is about joe barton using zalinski is a prob, um, to try put pressure on the republicans in congress. to pass a supplemental um, you know, a budget that includes money for ukraine, for israel,

and a little bit of money for the southern border. he's going to make the case that there's a lensky, the president of this wonderful democracy called ukraine, cannot survive without american assistance. american assistance that he, joe biden promised american assistance. the united states congress has regularly voted in favor of and the failure of the republicans to follow through on the obligations of the nation. it will represent a betrayal. so this is a grand act of theater. 12 esteemed the same question to you because i, i can't really, um, surmise what exactly the united states is supposed to do. keep funding this money. obviously it looks like they, they, they've all, all been accepted failure, but they want to keep it going until the election. so it doesn't dog, isn't there a way around biting soldiers, but that's a kind of a very cynical thing to do. so another $100000.00 ukranian troops will die because

of jo biden's, political ambitions and ego. go ahead, steve. like you said about, you know, 3 or $400000.00 for that. i just really feel sorry for zaleski is interpreter. can you match that? try to interpret the mumblings of joe biden, in some sort of a coherent sense. i speaking is that i can't understand him, but the problem is, he says he wanted to be a wartime president. that's what his strategist did now come up with is you can't be an economic president because by nomics is failing miserably. you can't be the border secure a present because that failed miserably. the energy presence. so now he's left to try and become the wartime president, and he is devoted to getting america into a war. and, and i will say this, the american people are about set up. we've given you the money to you, craig. i know they're more than set up with any, any boots on the ground. what do you great at this point, or at any point in the near foreseeable future? well, i'm speaking about troops here. scott biden's mentioned the possibility,

quote, american troops fighting russian troops. now, that seems to me or go, he but he assumes that russia will attack nato if ukraine fails. why? that's a flawed logic here. it sounds like he wants that to happen to legitimize. he's failed to crane project. scott, i don't know if he wants to happen because 1st of all, if it happened, we would go nuclear immediately because un, nato and united states lack the military capability of prevailing and ground combat, large scale ground combat against russia. but it's a, it's, as you know, that it's an absolutely false apprentice. up russia, a has no intention of attacking nato, attacking pole and attacking the politics. the russians historically have always had a defensive posture. they were compelled to act and ukraine because of years

of nato. expansion in efforts by the collective west to turn ukraine into a weapon against russia. so russia acted, you know, preemptively, as a preemptive self defense was the, um, yeah, the justification to blood report use on article 51 in the united nations charter. but the other thing is the russian military, while it's very successful on the battlefield today, um, you know, has limited capacity, limited capability. we learned this in the 1st phases of this conflict, where they tried to do too much with too little, 200000 troops. there's a limit to what they can do. well, there's a limit to what 60700000 troops can do. meaning that they are capable of defeating the ukrainian military. they are capable of seizing additional territory if tasked with that job. but they're not capable. for as they currently stand to occupy ukraine, let alone launch a massive military invasion of poland or the baltic. so joe biden has created

a fantasy world that he has populated with fantasy figures. the good news is that this will never happen because as this is a joe said, i want to send american troops in the ukraine. this is joe said russia will attack poland rusher won't attack bold. so this is just politics as usual. yeah, steve, it's really interesting also in the same conversation in john kirby, not the smartest guy in the room. we know he's invoking article 5 as if you know, this is again something that the, you know, is a, is a trip wire, a threat directed at russia that there is his article 5. i would be very, very cautious if i were john kirby or the president, the united states and his useless secretary state blinking is that article 5 is much more of a mythology than reality here. and i wouldn't advise them not to test it, because i don't think fortunate goal is good to go to war overbuild this. okay,

and i think the, the war and ukraine is actually proven that go ahead, steve. but it's kind of exactly right. and the democrats and the volume, ministration, even pages boogeyman of a rush and prove that if we don't stop them ins on best, they'll roll across you. great occupied ukraine's invade sweden and finland in poland. the adult dominated your ability early, like ukraine is the size of texas, occupying a country that size is not going to be possible with the rest of the military's. it is particularly when you get into the other side of ukraine and you have folks that would be willing to fight for their home to have a grill of warfare. and the idea that they would be in bathing your western europe is just again the boogeyman. this advisory ministration is trying to create so that that members of congress will look under their beds afraid they'll find to when you, when you look at the capacity of the us, as scott mentioned, to engage in any kind of large scale ground more we'd given most of our munitions

to ukraine that have been lost or wasted, or we'd like to buy that afghanistan. or we've got the u. s. department of defense that can't account for them. and yet you've got the secretary of defense going to congress demanding more money into ukraine. say, if you don't give us money, we're going to send your sons and daughters and uncles and brothers to die, that kind of threat. i don't think it's going to play well with members of congress . and again, i don't think it plays well with the american people. well, you know, it's got, you know, this whole sabre rattling about, you know, attacking a nato country and all that. you know, um, i know it's a lot of work for some people, but just look at the words the russian officials have said, let's actually go to the very beginning. demilitarization and d knots vacation means destroying the ukrainian military that has been supported by nato and regime change in to those conditions. haven't really changed. scott, i know you're a 100 percent correct. look, the, the thing here though is that there have been some voices in the russian. uh,

media, you know, russia has some very, uh, uh, inflammatory um, tv shows where you have now these come on and, and say things are not official policy makers. uh, they are speaking their own opinion in you. so when you have people say we're gonna come see this through on the warsaw on the berlin. all that does is feed the, you know, the, the propaganda mills here in america and allow people to say, the russians intend to come today to. but the reality is, there's the russian government speech for russian. not some punk well, but i'm glad you brought it up. scott, everybody listening to everyone watching the program here? yes, russia has its own. sean hannity's surprise. it does. it has it's joe scar boroughs . are you surprised? okay. they did. is joe scarborough and todd henry represent the us government hardly. they may want to appeal to elements of the government,

but they don't represent it. and i'm glad scott brought that up. i see the same shows, same kind of pod heads and some of our very gene go istic. absolutely, they are okay, but it's part of the entertainment landscape unfortunately. steve, let me go back to you again. you know, we have um, um, nato, uh, defining russia as an enemy. since this conflict is started and much, much more, more, but unofficially, now it's official here. russia is going to react to that. i don't understand why people don't. if you're called anatomy, you're going to react to it, go ahead. see as well. and the fact that this, this was a, a conflict. it could have been completely avoided. it had uh uh, victoria, new and uh, from the state department in boris jobs and not swooped in to keep the wednesday from striking a deal on the front end. and then you had your restroom, making it clear that the expansion of nato, to their border was, was intolerable. it was something that the us that agreed not to do it yet,

decade or so ago. and yet tamala, here as they are kind of again working us into this conflict by announcing, oh yeah, we're going to expand that, you know, into ukraine, and the russians don't know. she's an idiot. the russians don't know. she's clueless and they walked it back. but then there every action since then has been underlining, or we're going to expand, you really expand data in the ukraine, which is again, a breach of the promises that the us has made in the past. is that absolutely words, though, really mean very much and unfortunately that's what the russians have learned from all this women's process and all that. scott, kate, a, we both watched the media and the, the failed piece process that the u. s. and the u. k. a torpedo in early parts of the conflict here. how often is that mentioned in the mainstream media? you and i talked about it in real time. i remember it in real time. okay. it's never got an airing on the main stream media. the public simply doesn't know that

this conflict or 1st ball could have been avoided. second of all, it could have been shut down relatively quickly. scott, i know you're a 100 percent correct? because 1st of all, a to, to discuss what happened in march and april requires people to re think to be of the entire, you know, narrative bitch been portrayed in the west of an aggressive russia. she can territorial acquisition, seeking to destroy it to you. but when you look at the terms that russia had agreed to, they were extraordinarily lenient. it's almost some people say it almost was like russia lost in was conceding things to ukraine, that's out lenient scholars got. i, i remember at the time, i remember at the time and it probably was talking you about it. i, i said that would be defined as a strategic to feed it. it did it in retrospect, yes, but it shows how much rush i wanted to avoid. what's happening today, how little appetite russia had at the time for war,

and believe me why she doesn't have an appetite for war today either. all right, i got hold that thought gentlemen, i have to go to a hard break. and after that hard breaks will continue our discussion on your green space with our team, the, [000:00:00;00] the high acceptance. and i'm here to plan with you whatever you do, you do not watch my new show. seriously. why watch something that's so different. whitelisted or opinions that he won't get anywhere else. welcome to please or do have the state department to see i a weapons bankers,

multi 1000000000 dollar corporations. choose your fax for you. go ahead. change and whatever you do. don't want my shell stay main street because i'm probably going to make you uncomfortable. my show is called stretching time, but again, you probably don't want to watch it because it might just change the way you the welcome ex, across stock, where all things are considered. i'm peter will build to remind you were discussing ukraine, the okay, let's just go back to scott scott, it's the rumor mill. there's a lot of whispers going on, but you know more and more often you here, zalinski is no longer the guy. and of course, has been in a more enormous amount of reporting and alternative media about the machinations

going on in to if you have zalinski is immediate lieutenant's calling him delusional. that time magazine article, the economist article, those things don't happen by accident. ok. so there's a whole swirl going on around zelinski and, and then there were there his competitors in the military. they have more popularity than he does. after all, as you pointed out, you know, there are no elections going on right now. so we have basically the little m for um, so landscape, what are your thoughts about the stability of the regime? well 1st of all, we just have to be honest and noted zelinski is 100 percent. the construct of the collective west of the united states of great britain, of nato, of the european union. he is a tool, a tool of the west, but he's served a task that is just to be the public face of ukraine that allows western governments to justify the flow of hundreds of billions of

dollars of money and resources into ukraine. he is the propaganda element that we, the west put out there to say, this is the man, this is the face of ukraine, the face of freedom, the face of democracy, the man who's standing up to the evil russian autocracy. and as long as you know, they can sell zalinski that way. they can justify sending this money, but they can no longer is a wednesday and he's will past is used by data. he doesn't serve that function anymore. and therefore, he's lost his utility not only in the west, but in ukraine because he's not an effective leader, is an artificial construct. and if he's not bringing in the money that fuels this corrupt regime and his corrupt nation and this ineffective military, if he's not bringing into money, the pad, the bank accounts of these other corrupt, your training officials. what use does he have in the military is growing

increasingly frustrating, frustrated about so let's get because of his insistence on counting to the west to carry out counter offensive that never had a chance of success. always, we're going to sacrifice thousands, tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands of ukrainian lives just to continue the money flowing. now, the spigot you bring turned off as a wednesday, i think is on his final legs there. he can't last much longer. as the leader, we see a lot of with inside you crane and outside you, crane to replace them. and i, sadly, i think this of this trip to washington dc might be one of his last guests as president of ukraine. yeah, us, me think, you know, the so lensky is like the perfect western liberal. he, he, he likes to support ideas that have no impact on him. personally. i'm sure there's a private jet all sealed up ready to take about and, you know, like gummy out of afghanistan. okay. but we're way ahead of ourselves,

but that is one option. you know, it's, it's steve, it's really interesting is that one of the there's, there's been many, many different marketing attempts of this conflict in ukraine. the most recent one is corporate uh, welfare, the trickle down, you know, like 95 percent of the money comes back to arms manufacturers is if that's a good thing. okay. but they're, they keep reinventing their marketing to keep this going on. and you know, yeah, i don't feel sorry for arms makers are they always have a boon when there's a conflict going on. they like wars. ok and, and, and bite and likes to serve their interests. go ahead steve. as well and, and perhaps the most ridiculous assertion that be on the is just alone. it's going to get paid back. so yeah, like all the money that we loaned into europe after world war 2. but tim scott said it even better when he claimed is that that this is, this is the loan. it's going to get paid back. it's not just the supplement, the arms dealers, and there's that money, as you pointed out, flows back to us. mean these,

the ridiculous assertions of why it's good for america just to promote a war in, in ukraine. the best for you can tell that the frank course is last traction is you're not saying the ukraine pans warren on politicians and people around the country anymore. they've been replaced by these railways legs and, and perhaps the best education of, of the wednesdays was power. i think it was time magazine versus the year last year . this year is taylor swift. that's how much things that shifted away from ukraine . and i really don't even know who that is. okay. but anyway, i'm, i'm sorry, i don't follow that stuff. i think the academy awards me. i'm an interested in that kind of stuff. a scott is what is the plan now? just life support. uh, just to get through the election cycle. i think you hit the nail on the head. there's a, this is not about the security of the west or the west is already adjusting to the inevitability of ukrainian defeat. you see nato, you see the, you,

you see the united states started to move things behind the scenes to prepare themselves for a russian victory. but politically, by them can't concede that the 1st of all, he's looking for a scape goat netscape go. it's going to be the republican party. oh yeah. he is going to, uh, you know, say i did everything. i could, it was the republicans are denied the funding there for the republicans are responsible for the defeat of your trade. now if the republicans happened to cough up the money, then what you're going to see is what we've already seen. well, it's ukrainians fault. we gave them every resource they needed, but their military, it wasn't good enough. they just, they didn't have what it takes, of anything to push the blame away from buying because we are in to the silly season we are less than a year away from a presidential election, which means america has gone bring debt. we're now only about politics and politics

is all about shifting blame on to other people taking credit where you can and this is what bite is going to be doing with your craig. we've lost this war. ukraine is lost as war right now. it's about ensuring that the consequences of this defeat don't blow back on joe biden, politically, that he pushes as much of the blame for this ukrainian debacle on to other people. well, and i'll also to the scott and steve here we have to keep in mind. there was somebody responsible stay crafted road to a couple of weeks into the conflict. the ukraine has already one very interesting title, because i would say then once a settlement and it will be defeat, then there's going to be the, the blame game in side of you. crane who took the money. where is the money? where is this guy? it's going to be k otic. very, very chaotic. c i n, you've already had go ahead. you get paid. already have senior officials get fired for corruption by the wednesday. first of all,

it has various ministers and then top folks in the defense ministry getting fired for corruption. they've taken the money to us, can account for the money, but you can't account for the money is as billions of dollars have been misplaced. you and i think the other, the other critical thing is that you can, i think, blame ukraine for this. last because we were told about all the patriarchy. we're going to defend our country. and yet, there are hundreds of thousands of young ukrainian. manuel fled the country to avoid the draft for that, recognizing they'd rather go to jail afterwards, rather than go to the front lines and die now. and with all this patriotic got pushed it, we got the propaganda that ukraine is fighting for itself. why are they having to drag 16 year old boys out of malls? why they haven't put 70 year old man on the front minds? because you pray and people are wanting to fight for don bass and don't ask and marry ogles, they, they don't see any reason to fight for it. why are we fighting for it? and again,

i don't think americans want our kids to fight for places that they don't even matter to the ukrainians. yes. got into the demographic crisis is horrific for ukraine. i mean, depending on who you asking ukrainians, who always had been notorious of a bad with their statistics here. but there are some estimates that the population of ukraine now is approximately half. it was when they got its independence, that it happens very rarely, very rarely. scott as well, what we're looking at is a, is a failed state. i mean, there are been many people in russia including blood and report and we have our tissue lated. ukraine is an artificial state of but what we're looking at right now is a failed state. uh, you know, you talked about, you know, the chaos that they will break out. and ukraine is people who are looking to blame that. but that assumes that there's going to be a, a ukrainian government that, um, a good point operates independently and sorry,

the notification means the end of the zalinski really means the end of the ukrainian or rather the power. but that means the end of the constitution as it's currently configured, it means the end of ukraine is, it's currently governed. there will be a new government in ukraine if there has to be. and i believe this government will be hand picked by the russians. and so there won't be as much chaos as you think. i think there will be a lot of retribution. i think there will be a lot of accountability. but the bottom line is ukraine as it existed in 2014 will never exist again. and i think back, i had an interesting conversation with a senior russian official just last week. and he basically said that ukraine has a very limited window of opportunity right now to strike a deal that won't allow you trained to have the maximum territory and sovereignty that the longer this goes on that offer will be off the table. and you'll be looking at

a completely different outcome then the one that could be offered today. but either way, you train it strategically defeated and the terms of ukraine's future will be dictated by russia not by some sort of negotiation between ukraine in the west. yeah, and steve, you know, again, auto kind of what really. right. go ahead and type in, let me ask you got this. got it. exactly right. that's what happens. the grain going forward. what happens to russia going forward? i mean that the demon is ation to ethan russia in the west and in america. how do you have a great rest of the back to the table and say okay, all is well all forget it. oh, you have sanctions are off there. they're going to be a buddy again, how do you move that machinery back into bringing russia into the world of nations? well, well, you know, scott mc my place. i want to be kind all 3 of us, but we will see that in our lifetime this is a generational breach that will not be mended for

a very long time. those sanctions will not come to an end because the wes, nato land cannot accept that it was wrong. okay. because of their it with their, their virtuous russians. are they, they, uh they, they're the rule of law, the rules based or big. they can't change lightweight the only way the only way to both the due date when it was almost out of time here. but i do have a way out for them. at least putting didn't make it to pair us. we won steve. that's exactly right. yeah. i was in the ukraine, and don bass area is asking and they all go for the elections. and you know, we keep hearing from again the, by the ministrations this occupied territories. look better than a rack a couple of times scott is as been an actual occupied territories. don't ask very helpful or not occupied. you not to the russian soldiers on every. busy the lies from the beginning of this need to be dealt with and the media in the western got your for you and america have blood on their hands. well with it's all because of our occupied washington. that's why we've gotten here,

gentlemen. that's all the time we have a want to thank my gets in nashville and, and delmore, and of course i want to thank our viewers for watching us. see our teeth. see you next time. remember crossed up the the, the russian states never had started as one of the most sense community. best english. i'll send,

send up the progress be the one else calls question about this, even though we will then in the european union, the kremlin mission, the state on the rush to day and split the ortiz full neck. even our video agency, roughly all the band on youtube tv services for the question, did you say even closer to the

the, the game show what i did show it and then it's get close to the boy is shipped. i should issue that am unless you had last as a command, let's say skim hijacks. yes, i'm going to do it for almost a while and then probably in your little guy this, prosecutors have come to the house or south, proclaimed pasta, getting out a muffin and he's been training all for this to serve in the ukrainian army for years. would you much sway the charlo so that they such as what's going on, how to move us toto did a why don't i didn't want to take