to expand to then a corporation, you of higher education, i would call to your for your what a resource management you have, science and technology. so in essence, all 7 of those areas. so 6 the over the do you put chains in relation to our pilot relationship? which last year we celebrate that the, obviously, that the use of diplomatic relations between south africa and the russian federation, the relationship between them, the south african people and the adoption of people goes back uh, probably more than the 50 takeaways during the time when, as the south african people wait, it's a lubrication struggle. we had the nation, people obviously on the different the dispensation which pled shut out. so i looked at the with the south african and the african struggle. so, you know,

we studied taught us that we should never let to the wrong repeat details in on just a word order that we're seeing today. have a system to profile. how about i throw relations to great tides? now we have seen the west to pose a b t r u sanctions on countries. the don't like do you think or you could said that's they could be sanctions on your country to do to your increased cooperation with russia. well mike, i think that probably it's important to state where we stand, in particular as it relates to what we classify as unilateral cause of sanctions. we all view of south africa that are the only august you and body that has the singing, the right to to impose says things and so on. the plane by, uh,

the multi led to the un system is the united nations security council of calls. south africa is concerned that our number line post you um has been, uh you said to see to uh, put us into a position of what i called correct. no way. we uh, uh, uh, threatened to choose the, uh, the site, the one or the other, the power of south africa obviously, is not in the line to we subscribe to the bundled principles which speaks about the, you know, the integrity of individual in the nation states. we erase with the, the, the us a couple of months in the us state that's on the station. our concern. uh, when we were looked at the, about the, uh, the russian uh maligned uh, uh,

activities above that to do the house. uh and the seats to pass which ultimately directed the gains boat state, the non state actors that are seen to be in support of the us and for the ration. and i think we, we were successful because often those specific reference to african uh, activity says the release that us and for that ration was removed from that particular bottle of. but we remain concerned that the, obviously, those unilateral sanctions of being a champion, as we speak against that us. and for that, i said, and many other countries, i mean disregard my, we speak about the economic brocade against the people of cuba since 1962 have

a and this we every car and take your list of viewers in confidence. it's the same security concerns that are less than for the nation. where raising about the eastwood expansion of nato in ukraine, in close proximity to the russian border, was a model image of the security coincidence that the united states of america 1962 during the cuban missile crisis, a phrase and that prompted the cuban people to have been subject to, you know, and economic locate of more than 60 years because of security of that i'm putting on the security a opa seats to get the interest off of the us. so we, we are obviously concerned because apart from what we have seen with the cubans, you've seen, you've been led to like a nomic functions level to gain. so the people of zimbabwe by the u. s. a

by the u. k. and by the e. u. at which it, in essence, so pardon me, is the, the, it or the other people often and probably so we obviously prone mike on a conduct that is not the frequent side of the, with the united nations shot. the value in relation to, you know, you know, that typically as of functions right? now let's talk about breaks and little bits. now we've seen the expansion of economic integration of bricks, countries, and one thing the world is looking forward to is settling by electro, a trade and national currencies where the both countries that are involved in such kind of trade now is that is hitting that by the west one we'll be able to, how far is south africa are ready to go in defending it, stand in, settling by electro trade in national currencies. i think probably for of your

fuels to better appreciate the evolution of the topics payment settlement system it's, it's equally critical for you. you'll feel us to understand 3 pallets of cooperation amongst breaks a member state to the 1st one speaks about the centrality of political and security cooperation. that in essence, mike speaks about the importance of optics that breaks uh the nation stage should have in regards to peace and security and elsewhere into what we do for see that increasingly pretty useful to you know, establish a particular proximity as it relates to international peace and security architecture is concerned. the 2nd issue obviously speaks about the centrality of uh, economic and financial corporation. if you look at the, the, you know,

some of the practical steps we have taken was the stablish been in us had knowledge ation on a equal share a capital basis, the new develop and banker and be that, that sort not to be um, you know, and this is the existing president with these a do some size issue, i imagine you will be, but the u. n. b was established to ensure that the, you know, it becomes a, a more easily. and it was a 3 and reference point for financial allocation of capital in mobilization of capital for member states of your, of, of the brakes. the us pick up out the brakes payment and settlement system. we should be a new koval call about that. we should speak about that in the same product enough . then the b, its that has been, uh, getting that right. the thing,

the public that, that sold to uh, you know, uh, equate similarities in relation to the delilah zation. it's up to, you know, the same thing. what to it intends to do might, is to ensure that there is a break. so family of nations where able to 3, the months, our sales and the 3 it's, it's always the d enable. it should be the settlement on local currencies without having to invoke international financial systems. in regards to that, the type of issue at that obviously miko speaks to the g to in the wrote mag map on the cross border payment system. so it's actually a motor image or what the g 20. yeah. nations us speaking about, it's a, you know, i tend to colleen it's a post to define african payment system that the african union states has speaking

about. so it's a key and able to ensure that breaks member states 3 set easily. so the economic dividends of each financial today. and then obviously the loss of cooperation speaks about the centrality of people to people, cooperation and cultural diplomacy. that obviously is evident if you look at the the, that the entire continence, in essence, from the global south, on our, presented in the brakes of a family of nations. it's interesting. now any it, any of this year we, we, the united states through weeds, bassett, a. so i've actually got queues, south africa, of supplying alms and weapons to russia. and as it is, of course, russia responded very firmly, calling on the us not to drag high into issues between russia and on how

herself. but after that was settled, once they any kind of pressure that your country came under from the west. well, um i think the most important issue, mike, these 1st, the prospecting and the following policy, independent for foreign policy positions of the for a nation including that of south africa. we, we have chosen to, you know, to amplify on the line, the us fun points as it relates in particular, to the conflict between russia and ukraine. these concepts. so we should be unequivocal about that. in fact, our membership of being part of the number line movement and subscribing to the bundling principles put state obligation on south africa not to in, in,

in essence to become conflicted in difficulties that big powers. a face with the and in particularly year we speak about the difficulties that the, the nato advice of us, that us and said that ation of face with anthem sophie, it's the joe political outlook as it relates to this one. ukraine is concerned. so we, we, we should be obviously on the approval code about that issue between south africa in the us, texas a civic, easy political partnership at which, or the natalie mike base on shed fairly was a principal sofa of a democracy and global patients in areas of a good governance and economic diplomacy. it was unfortunate that the,

the us on bus of the effort to south africa is engaging or aiding that lesson said that they shouldn't military, i think you with the appreciate. that is a, is a developing countries hold off at the f. not that i both capacity to 8. that i sense that the reason military. so if you look at the entry point of that type of, of argument that it was completely irrational. but the dismay president that i'm a pause, a point that they inquiries that validate that you know, our son pointed to we f not aided their us. and for the reason military, in fact, uh, what the, the shipment entailed was uh, the procurement doing, uh, a deep, uh decode, with 19 fund day me for the, you know,

through the composite the is the relates to peacekeeping missions in, in this, out of africa is concerned so it's the unfortunate and we, we obviously stem from our b is our nemesis should depreciate where we stand is a, is a, up on african state installation paul photo and policy and people to 3 spec. you know, our standpoint as relates to different areas into word this consent and it's obviously are the unfortunate that we have to, you know, undergo and i'm quite a severe beating on the financial markets because of the perceptions that was leveled against us. we'd have seen fresh struggles against new colonialism among the african countries and countries are beginning to reconsider the relation

knowing me, the engagement to the west. why do you think this is resonating among african countries? now let's 1st be absolutely clear that the unconstitutional changes of problem and the norfolk, this is not the recall and say that was with the african agenda not withstanding the perceived or actually negate the federal that former colonial power powers continued to play in africa. and yeah, i'm specifically referencing, you know, decide to go great lakes region to undergoing some complex difficulty. but importantly, my get, you know, the former colonial powers has a responsibility to ensure that them, you know, $8.00 to $8.00 does not necessarily be at every,

every by $0.03 and operations. but actually, you know, support the development agenda of countries which they have been responsible, dakota nice. and in year i'm speaking for example, the know and the experience because we have been calling new of the united kingdom, the u. k. in our relationship both in terms of common health, well the membership and also in terms of by letter where we have seen for example, the u. k. i deeply invested in relation to science and technology in relation to the thought of them being a key for and patrick, invest the and then able to ensure that, you know, as a form of a colony, the u. k. plays a particular developmental role that to skin threat to what, what this obviously concerns us is that if

a political independence has not necessarily imply economic independence that all of us shouldn't because send the quote to, you know, set then the condition of aspects as it relates to a, you know, a depo know project needs obviously to be ex 7 because increasing the joy of optic and a young person. they thought they obviously more conscious. politically. den. yes. the. so we, we obviously concerned that, you know, the african agenda is not been able to get the type of the same support from former a colonial must this in a number of unconstitutional changes of governments have demonstrated that the,

you know, the, the question about the development that governance power then ended death resulted in what we call social up even in countries where you have seen, you know, the military, it, that, that assume sewage ship of a ordinarily should be a civilian process. so it's onto this as to what we stand for as africa, and we have quote on, you know, on your military rulers, to ensure that they are for immediate discussions with a you commission, you know, in august uh to look at a parent sees, you know, a plan towards a civilian goal. right now let's talk about the ongoing crisis in, in eas, well, between these rather than palestine, we saw a lot of vocal support on the african continent for panos by the way, the demonstrations factors of africa in nigeria and some other countries that with

demonstrations outs, likely in support of palestine. now, what do you think the continent can do when it comes to bringing solutions? because we've seen a new move where leaders in africa trying to take a step towards resolving or mediating between kind of war and countries of the world. what role can the african continent play in bringing solution to the, the challenges and number least? well, i think the 1st aspect is obviously when we look at the the conflict as it relates to user and published by mis glancing at this internal, at the, in the, in the ability of the un security council comes to the full. so in essence, firstly, the priority for the african nations. mike is about the common african position as a spouse by you as well when the consensus which subscribe to the fact that africa

must be present at the, in a permanent capacity where pick up and in the un security council yukon, have the permanent members so called the b 5 in accordance to the times of 1945 my that 78 this they after. and for the main stegman to, you'll come to of a situation where they are going to has to be there to rights and privileges that exclusive amongst members of the b 5. it's one vote vet those, the entire opinion as it relates to world peace and security in architecture is going is that the 2nd aspect is obviously to continue to champion the cis about peace diplomacy. we, we, uh, you know, happy that the,

the you and secretary to and that are like the new equipment was in vogue. i took the 99 uh that the enabled team to call a moses session of the un security council. but of course we, we, we are concerned that the, for example, the us have actually, you know, rattled a, a truce between the fighting a actors in relation to the conflict in gaza. and obviously it was fed by part of the us. and we continued to obviously engage the united states of america and them so feet. so push it as it relates to human that, that in diplomacy and the need to deescalate the need to step is a ceasefire at the need to establish a human at that inquired and the need my to go back to the negotiation table in

a quarter and to the $9.00 to $93.00 are also a court so which speaks about you know this and tell it the offer to stay solution with each other. so then as the capital of palestine in accordance the board is of $9067.00. so those are the issues that we are looking at this african states. but we, i think our people also appreciate that you know, in as much as 4 on the policy on the behalf of the state to state the, you know, i'm on the behalf of government, a non state actors or the people civil society, community based organizations. there is a central role to ensure this unity of purpose and this for the region that for example, the south african falling men, have a, you know, vote at the and after the level of the engagement. and you know, for, for a,

temporarily suspension of a, you know, diplomatic relations between south africa and, and, and the state of is that right now you've, you've talked about the united states, z, towing it to the sweat. everyone is calling for peace for the united states. save the can be piece, you know, from what is going on in the un security council. the, what is your assessment of the tactic or the agenda of the united states in this particular conflict that is ongoing. and besides a, how is the going to rob of, on the perception of other countries towards the united states? well, i remember i can speak about the views of other countries. what i can speak about these, what is the optics of the oppressed people of the, what is the views of the global. so to which, you know, we, we are presenting here today. obviously, you know,

when you speak about the infringement of the you and chuck the us through broke occupation has been very vocal when it spoke about the annexation of the 3 sin east. and you agree by that? i sent say that asia. but if it, if spoken, with that muscle voice installation to the next ation 75 years back in already 19 for the 8th of the length of the defendants, then people. so tell me what you are seeing here is inconsistency in relation to international law. and is up location and, and we, we are concerned because what, what the state of is that it should be engaging on, as we speak today. is genocidal conduct against the people of palestine.

you've seen that the a people being target the cause of death and this at the because of the way they look. and us not seen the consistency of the us that speaks about for a nation or. ready if you know a, at an exemption instead of 3 of the palestine people, you have not seen a decry, you know, and coincidence, express on the killing and maiming of more than $15000.00 thing women and children as we're speaking about. i will call that to we continued to me is for all of us have to ask in accordance to of international law way at the you and child though fairly well. so it becomes the supremacy that we look at the was the, that the spend my phone, social justice and respect for life or be the up in

the, in the palestine conflict a be a ukraine in the tongue bustle region. that is what we are quoting for us. so perfectly honorable deputy minister have in both tests. thank you so much for speaking tardy. thank you very much. i. oh, the good news is it's can be started by line. peace can be cited by truth. the importance of wiki links can never be kind of a station, so that transparency is extraordinary. john listed cametrius then just succeeded in finding documents that existed in making them available to

the world public. i mean, what could be more moving back by publishing information and sharing information with the public. he was exercising the rights for a speech he did so in the public interest. pardon wants to so long realize tends to me uh, in dalton and honestly of late continuously. i know why advice may know who is the guy that illegal anymore wisely bought the adjustments for him to be on box weighing a 174. he used to go through a distance, it's all we going to lift that stay the

the i really thought that we were going to die and i crawled all the way to the right another. and then i hid behind the 2 years before i was even

born. and this is how people continue to stick with the system. basically we want to make sure that certain too dangerous for a regular civilian should be in the hands of those people who weren't taking away the

wound. when i would show the wrong just don't have to say about an engagement. it was the trail when so many find themselves will depart. we choose to look for common ground, the the,

the headlines right now with all the international that's the russian president conducted his end of the year q and a session. so full hours answering questions ranging from domestic issues to international challenges. look at the special military operation and the situation in gaza. you will feel the difference. there is nothing like this and ok, the despair in southern guns as audio from some old residential areas. and con units which use relative cause previous they labeled as safe so use that sounds like you wonder if it's almost as god seems no longer comfortable.