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[000:00:00;00] the hello and welcome to cross hawk were all things are considered. i'm peter lavelle, dangerous and brace when joe biden bear hug. benjamin netanyahu. 10. brace design is the agenda and all its deadly consequences. no matter how the american administration wants to parse is rolled and israel's war on gaza. united states is ultimately accountable for israel's military's campaign, the cross talking palestine. i'm joined by my guess in new york. we have line on he's a legal and media analyst. and in lake jackson, we crossed to daniel mcadams, he's the executive director of the ron paul institute for peace and prosperity, or across black roles. and the fact that means you can jump anytime you want and i would appreciate it. okay, daniel, let me go to you 1st and like jackson,

no matter how the administration wants to parse is words when you have anthony blinking coming outtake sullivan, john kirby, they, they want to create this, you know, there's a little bit of distance, but of course we're work full way on the side of as well. it's not working and there's, nobody believes this year. this is biden's war, a step. so literally it's been a cock ups and the 1st these people are so far out of their league. it's not even funny. i'm for all his faults and there are plenty of them. if you had something like henry kissinger, you know, with the shuttle diplomacy, you might have actually had something happened, but from the very beginning. as you point out in your introduction, peter by the raced over and he had a big plan. he was going to give a big bear hug to be nuts and yahoo. and then he was going to have a summit. if you remember in jordan, so he was kind of kind of even at out, hey, we're on israel side, they have a green light, but we're still maintaining thought that thing was come to was completely fluffed up by the is really bombing of the hospital. and the error upside as your,

as your viewers know, cancel the summit. so basically you have a bite and with the proverbial is in his hand, having nothing to show for it except the meeting with nuts and y'all in the green light. so this, this, this, this whole thing was but was born in disarray and disaster. and it's only continued down that road. and with it you watched by these numbers go down the toilet. well, it'll also look basically the same question to you line. know, because, you know, the administration is trying to, to create this kind of impression that they have influence and they have sway. but israel does continues to ignore the administration while on a daily basis. munitions are being sent their human rights organizations all around the world are red flags, left, right, and center. my goodness, final, we could watch the slaughter on live television and the administration still say instead, you know, it's trying to do its best. well,

that's not good enough. that's not good enough for anyone line. well, when the administration claims to be doing its best that that has to be, it must be an asterisk next to it. i want to get them to think about this. think about october, the 7th of november, the 7th and december, the 7th. the narrative. and i don't want to say israel versus palestine more just for shorthand purposes. on october, the separate, it was complete and total solidarity. everybody's. this is all, this is terrible. you were attacked everybody just like 911, just like we were 911. everybody said you've got to something measured respectful but, but it was 100 percent. nobody ever said, well, you know, you had you had that coming november. the 7th. the, the argument was the same, it was from us and the rest of the role said no, wait a minute, hold that, that may be true. that was last month. but how has your approach changed? how has your address changed december?

the 7th, same thing is though it's frozen in time. and when you hear whether it's bobby kennedy, whether ridge, anybody from the usual suspects, they have the same october, the 7th narrative, as though nothing has change, it is simply says this. i'm also attacked. we're going to destroy him, us, we're not to let this happen again. it but it, it stops. and there's no counter. there's no, there's no, okay, fine. nobody you say you cannot respond to this. how do you explain the no, we're just ignoring your mind. when will you stop? remember call and follow had that the what was the pottery barn rule, if you break it as you own it, you know what's the in the game? tell me, tell me the strategy. everybody in the war has to say this is when we have success . when this happens, when they still run your every but nothing but the line,

all the strategy, the strategy is to destroy a moss. i understand that. but what, when looking at from october 7th to the present is the destruction of gaza. i don't, i don't see much destruction if i'm honest, let me throw it to daniel. daniel, what i see, and i obviously watch this very closely. it's very painful to watch, but i do see a war on schools, on hospitals, on mosques, on churches, on medical staff, and on children. that's what i see. what is the strategy is that the strategy is to destroy everything i just mentioned a well line or was saying what's the in game? i was just looking yesterday at an ad from a real estate company, advertising beach front property coming in gauze. and i saw that that looks like, uh, that may be the strategy, but uh, you know, it's a great point. that line i makes about the narrative. but what's interesting is that, you know, 2 things. first of all, it does remind us of ukraine, doesn't it?

russia attacked your brain full stop. we don't want to talk about 2014. we don't want to talk about years of bombings in the dawn bass. no, it happens. the world was born yesterday, and that's exactly what's happening. but what we do see if you do dig a little bit and people like our friend max bloom with all of the grades on have done a great work, but now it's coming up more into the open. using is rarely source is really sources . yes. as resources, wine it in not, you know, not just read, read, but that the october 7th narrative was mostly false. and we just found out yesterday, i'm sure you saw the video. a video emerged of october 7th with a tag shooting at a house in the code books. uh, the fact of the matter is that israel killed a large number. i won't say all i won't say didn't happen. but israel killed a large number of these rarely army killed a large number of israeli citizens, including at the music festival. and the closing at a,

at the cut books is on october 7th. and that is a fact. and it reminds us of the neo cons in the us, after 911, never let a crisis go to waste. and that's what i think we're seeing here. and until we can challenge that core narrative effectively. so they're going to keep going because we're having a great war, as you say, peter, against women and children, they're doing a hell of a job when it actually comes to fighting a most fighters. i've seen a lot of stuff and it's not going that well, they've created so many firing points in gaza that i was just watching a video yesterday is really, soldier was complaining. it shows like we're fighting ghosts in your a dan, it's all process solving. go to get the words here. line. oh, let me ask you the simplest of simple questions. it probably has no answer considering the behavior of our leads. what is the american interest? what is the american strategic interest in all of this? because it's reputation is being trashed around the world line on the tradition

allies, uh, history. uh, a lot, you know, i, i got to say this again, people who are absolutely, i don't want to keep bringing a bobby kennedy. i don't know why he's the exemplar but i have to give this as well . yeah, but here's the, i guess he's the biggest disappointment, but we'll leave that side. go ahead. this is a man who has never met a, an american program. i think he liked her in any way who now me basically either it is riley or an antique palace, any program that he's never loved. it's on conditional. and here's the thing. i swear to you, there is a, there is a narrative that what i hear this, it drives me crazy, but let me just explain something. you can't do this for ever. we have elections coming up. and when the rubber hits the road, when the democrats realized that they are there are contingents of new voters. and i hate to make this into the political because we should be worried about the humanitarian aspect of it. but if the political aspect is the only way to get

people's attention, when americans find out exactly what's going on and when they look at the numbers, because we have one of the most incredible abilities to remain nation and clueless and then a comb or we are the best we, we don't even have maps, we don't care, we worry about your taylor swift. we're out to lunch. but when it breaks through the blood brain barrier, and when it becomes pash, or would it becomes popular to care about humanity? that's it. it's all over with. how were you going to explain it? and again, let me ask you a gentleman this. is it gonna be one day when there is no more gaza? not not guys in there, but there is no more god just what we say. let me, let me throw that to daniel because that's, that's a great point because that, that is the point of israel strategy that has no strategy except for eliminating a place called gaza. and the people that live there,

that's obvious to me is always the worst sec, ethnic cleansing we've seen in, in decades. maybe since world war 2, you know, and it's, so you're right. it is to destroy garza itself because as well they're, they're welcome to move. they can move to jordan and they can go move to egypt, but they have to be eliminated. and if you look at the, at the, at the territory that's left after the bombing 90 percent of these 2 point, some 1000000 people have been displaced. they're not in their home, they can't stay in their home. a 100 journalists have been killed. they don't want any coverage of this. the idea is to destroy all of the infrastructure, and then the real estate companies will move in, i suppose, and start building those beachfront homes. it's a sick, it's a sick plan, but it's going on challenge virtually on challenge. they're only a few outlets, ironically, if you look around only occasionally, cnn will say something worthwhile. they had the reporting from, from near the egyptian boarding border,

which was very jarring. but with very few exceptions, the us media certainly won't touch it. well line on again, why is it because people are intimidate or, or they're just uninformed or just both. lionel, it's a combination. are you much know and, and peter, i have been doing this for most of my adult life. there were things that we knew in the media that you just never, ever, ever, ever touched you just never were vocal. or you mentioned black macs blumenthal or, or others people who were, were a vocally a n t e's real ag. again, i've got to say to me, i'm a lawyer, i'm sorry semantics um the definitions. i'm not anti is real well, but i know you guys would say that said you're picking up on the problem. i know because people have been told israel and zionism are the same thing. and for people like bax blumenthal, their anesthetic, well, they're ratified, and called to me,

okay, last 30. so can see that we go to the break line. i'll go, but i'm not missing a design is i'm saying a military action. listen, i have absolutely no problem in going after a group of people who did this, this particular act of terrorism, probably great the way you do is by going after them the sources, the money and individuals go to those countries. those individuals who have some kind of polar sway but not pick des moines, iowa, because 2 of them lived there and, and, and level the whole country. because secretly your current, i want that area. anyway, we're going to use this as a pre text. okay, line i'm going to jump in here. we're going to go to a short break. and after that short break, we'll continue our discussion about palestine staying with our team.

the, the russian states. never as tight as on one of the most sense community best most i'll send send up the consumer to progress. be the one else calls question about this, even though we will then in the european union, the kremlin media mission, the state on the rush of funding and supports the r t spoke neck. even our video agency, roughly all the band on youtube. the said this is steven

twist, which is the number you use visa, stupid loyce law. he said to nancy, jim's in the book the mattress, just me very the the only showcase in genes, nathaniel. so who's going into the ways that the boys the probably the most new and that'll be for them. imagery at this uh,

florida month i had faxed them put a note to are set to welcome back to prospect where all things are considered. i'm peter will help remind you were discussing palestine. the okay is go back to daniel in lake jackson. daniel, you know, and looking at a lot of the coverage and i tried to look at a little bit of everything for sure to get a sense of the narrative here. but there's one thing and in line will touch the bottom. so you, there's certain things you just don't talk about there. there was a 3rd rails, you stay away from it in the main stream. you almost never, i don't think one so far since october 7th. it's been mentioned to me that gods in the west bank are illegal or under illegal occupation. you never talk to you about the off to patients because some fanatics suddenly woke up on october 7th and

attacked israel. that's the narrative. but that's not contextualized as we all very well know. but so it's one of the reasons why they have to continue with the narrative they have is, or it has the right to defend itself is because they will not contextualize it. and where this conflict came from, it didn't come out of the book, just like pulling invaded the woke up one morning. he was in a bad mode any invaded ukraine, which of course is nonsense here. we're seeing the same thing. you can't say the word occupation, daniel. yeah, it's absolutely true, but something interesting is happening, peter, which is that it's not sticking like it used to now. right. you've seen him and that's a generational shift. i mean, you are seeing young people. if you look at the poles, young people are not holding these views at the bloomers held about places like israel about are, you know, uh, in escape a whole new romance with is or whatever you want to call it. they're not buying it . and that's why we had this big freak out about these college presidents. they were, i mean, i've never seen anything like it. they were whole before congress. what would you

say if someone called for genocide and israel the what have you? um, it was insane. it was all made up and it was a desperate attempt to try to get this back on the reservation. but you've seen protests world wide of millions of people from indonesia to paris to washington dc . the narrative is not sticking anymore. and i think a lot of credit is due to the emergence of relatively free speech in places like former twitter now x. where there is a debate where people like max blumenthal, can get some traction and debate some of these things in real time for the babies be headed now that actually didn't happen. a mass rate. no, actually, that didn't happen. baby in the oven didn't happen, didn't happen, didn't happen until you're seeing this in real time, and younger people are just not accessing the legacy media further news. they're looking elsewhere. so despite the desperate, desperate attempts to censor this, it's getting out and it's a different world. i think, you know,

it's really interesting line. oh, i mean they may be university presidents so that was this a mccarthy would be, but joe old joe mccarthy would be so proud of that kind of behavior because it was really, really quite odious. and these university professors are supposed to be smart people. i would have just said, well, who is calling for genocide? what? oh, give me evidence. they didn't have the guts to say that you know where they always, they appear to go out of it in so okay. but a line all of my quest to you, is it with a lot of cowardly people on the right or cowardly. um, conservatives like this as a product of the work is amazing. it's not at all. daniel was absolutely right. when i went to university, they were palestinian groups, mostly headed by the american jews by the way. and it was a very important issue when i was at university. and it's, and it, which is just become because of the internet and things like that. people are

beginning to learn the history. okay. what was allison, where she wrote a book, if all americans only knew well, they're learning ok. a lot line. oh, i see. thinking about what cloud schwab said about the great reset. you know, a gentleman, there are people historically that i have not particularly cared for. i never take politics personally, but there are people on the platform because by the way, heritage and traditional statist ossified media. it's over, it's done, it's finished, it's through. but on the regular platforms, people that i always thought were kind of lunatic left. these i'm finding is like, wait a minute. this guy makes i, i'm, i'm agreeing with them. i've told you this before. let me say it again. friends of mine who were new york prototypical classic neil, typical, whatever that means. jewish liberal progressives have to go to fox news to find any kind of a conciliatory, regarding their support of israel. it's not, it's crazy. and what's also is, is that we cannot handle,

i hate to keep doing this, but the scot, this, you're all said that the great mind could handle 2 seemingly inconsistent thoughts . you know this claudia and gay of harvard. yes. she was wrong by basically booting students out because they didn't, you know, use the right pro. now it's okay, that's one issue. but if i stand, we have supreme court cases, brandy bird against ohio, that says, i can say that alsatian, we should be, we know the eliminated from the are as well as i don't inside people in. so i thought i thought it respect, if i can a terrorist, i could have been lied and you can say, whatever you want about russia, nobody's going to kick you off about the cap is about that. and the selective perm tilly is stupid observation of selective speech. in the meantime, when all of this is, is all hopefully we adopt, we will have lost yet more of our free speech fabric. yeah. but like in a little bit why know what, what is, what's even more painful. let me go to daniel on this here is that, you know,

a prior to all this, you know, they, a lot of conservatives got smuggling. you said you're aware for free speech, we're for free speech. ok. and then you have, i don't mean if we can spend a 25 minutes 30 minutes, just naming the names of people, but as a, except for in this case, we see it all but know ben shapiro, i perfectly get it with him. this is his day and you've been doing it a long time. but jordan peterson. wow. okay. douglas, mary, wow. okay, we go on the line. we want to jump in real quick. go ahead. don't. norman singles, dean was d o a in terms of the media. he was, people say, you know, whatever happened to, well i can tell you, i know a lot of people learned about norman people say, and for being a guest on this program, many moons a go. okay. but a good to see norman back in business. okay. but he even gave us a ready gave up. he gave up in 2020. okay. yeah, amazingly he,

i saw my name interview we had to reread is all one of his own books to do interviews. okay. daniel, you, let's talk about the split free speech issue and the popular se on the right. it's absolutely astonishing. i mean, it's, uh, uh, but you know, i say there's a lot of swings in mrs. from us, barbara in this whole episode. but this was a sweet going to hit because americas are fed up with work. isn't the american right? that is they are saying in somehow they found way, and you mentioned it earlier, peter. they found a way to tie this is real thing with the anti work. is them on the right? if i introduce a brilliant move, because it is sticking it sticking very well, people like peter said, i don't understand it. maybe no one ever has enough money. i, you know, it seems to me, he's got probably a pretty good bank account, but it's not just people like him. there are people like you say, with like shapiro and then have some, a personal vested interest in the game. but you know,

i can't tell you how many of the jewish friends and i've had that were we were very close on ukraine. we were very close on the lives told about cove it. and as soon as this happened, it wasn't even okay. i have some affections on this, but these are right wing or she said, you're out. i don't want to hear anything about it. and. and do you have seen it with, with, with one after one of the are you still called white wing outlets or, you know, in the us, you know, is that so tragic like line will because they would, you know, we've been doing human guess of both and been on this guess, i'm guessing on this program for many, many years. so let me how many friends it'd be loose during the rush or gate? how many friends did we lose during cove and how many pins and we lose definitely locked out? how many friends are being lose out over ukraine? and now you lose a friend because you call out a genocide. what kind of world are we living in vinyl? natalie, natalie. dad, i'm not going to mention names. what if i mentioned one name to you? you're joe or drop. i basically was told i'm throw with you because there is

a red line regarding israel and i said, how does that mean? what do i said? one more thing to show you the, the lunacy of this. and that may have given you a hint, john settlement this set of or in pennsylvania is now well now he is in, he is literally an people use that word literally incorrectly. but he is literally wrapping himself and he is really flag, which is fine. but he is now saying they blame me, tick tock for your people, having these dominion to pro palestinian ideas when the same man congratulated and sank to tip top, talk for this resurgence of young people. so now it's tick tock, which means they want to go after take that because of course it's china. meanwhile, twitter in the or facebook, that's okay. the one who owns that and, and i say one more thing, god bless the learned mosque. you may not be perfect, it may not be perfect, but god bless them. because if that was in for x,

i keep saying twitter is like, i say album. but if it wasn't for eli mosque, where would we go? well, that absolutely. and it will say what was going to be happening with a, with x or i call it x, twitter. so everyone knows what i'm talking about in europe. that's the 1st one is annual, are rapidly running out of time. and they're going to be the one of the narratives have been spinning. this is al qaeda. this is isis. yeah. you know, this is how they're trying to couch the whole day. one of the things i would like to ask all of the defenders of israel did say, how many 911 they did. it was real experience on october 7th and my re toward is how many $911.00 says the palestinians experience since that time. daniel, for decades and decades, but no one wants to talk about it. you know, the, the issue of people, you know, dumping on us for being critical of israel. go back and look at what all of us, all 3 of us wrote about ukraine and how ukraine was behaving. you know, the, the, you know, are very,

very strong language with the bombing of civilians and don best. and we are basically guilty of treating israel like every other country on earth. and i'm sorry, that's how i work. as a foreign affairs analysts, you know, everyone is treated equally, including the us in israel and ukraine and what have you. so that's, that's exactly what is happening, but, you know, cause has been discussed as an open air prison for decades. you know, even bump all set it on television and was attacked for, you know, 1215 years ago. it's long been known. but somehow you're not allowed to talk about it. well, we're talking about it now and things are changing. line. i'll go ahead and give you the last 35 seconds. go ahead as well. you know right now the key to this is going to be uh, shows like this gentleman like you. and also again this reset this, this, this reaffirmation of the truth. and the good news is that it will be streaming, it will be citizen, civilian, and alternative media. you're going to see, you know,

media i just came out recently with a list of the top 75 people in quote news media. so joe rogan came in, number 24, look that's over with, that's over with your going to see a new wake up call for the world. not, not here locally, but the world. so get ready and this might have done more to act as a catalyst. and then kind of like an ends of magic, a push to change, having a little bit better, a free speech will prevail. exactly. thank you, gentlemen. and as we approach the holiday of christmas, i implore everyone to give a priority specifically, but the children have gone. so that's all the time we have. i want to thank my guests in new york and, and link jackson. and of course i want to thank our viewers for watching us here at

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nature of the relatives who won the victims of the latest is really selling at the city of rafa where at least 12 pallets of indians that were killed as a un representative labels is really a tax on calculus health system. so this thing is really forces allegedly execute at least 11 arm demand in front of their relatives in gaza. city that's according to where you in sort archie learns more from the palestinian red crescent spokes person. unfortunately,