and your nation has not recovered from on sale. now, the brit can move here on our to international south africa, takes legal action against israel at the us. international court of justice in the hague section uses this role of violating the genocide convention during the war and gaza pool and says a russian missile entered. it's asked phase after flying across the u, korean border. it's failed to provide any evidence to support the slate and yet another us space prohibits former president donald trump from running for re election next. yeah. along the way to peace is a changed in northern india with an agreement between the government and the separatist. united liberation front of ask them and those are the main headlines

here on our to international. i'm nationwide. josh, i'll be back with more stories and analyses at the top of the hour of next disco store, the hello and welcome to cross stock. were all things are considered non peter lavelle, the calendar is changed, but the trends we observe last year continue with this into the new year. change is in the hair and the powers that be in politics and media are resisting. the status quote is being tested. this is what could make 2024, a watershed year. the

the discuss these issues and more enjoyed by my guess. jordan sent me away in budapest . he's a pod cast or at the capital which can be found on youtube and locals and america. yes, we have martin j, he is an award winning journalist and commentator. gentleman costs up rules and i think that means you can jump the time you want and i always appreciate it. right, so start out with george and in budapest you know, at the end of last year going into the new year. so there's a sudden a sense of foreboding out there. a lot of commentators was something new and i am very much admired respect. tucker carlson is been saying this and a number of other people they think they're looking at 2024 as a certainly a year and change that. certainly that's an understatement. okay. but we have also, um, the bold attempt to kinda shop the us presidential election in the both. his name is donald trump. and in my lifetime, i have never seen it such

a political come back. i mean, this is almost like nixon in 68 trunk left the office with the deplorable public opinion and approval. now's doing really quite well, george, for you. yes. is the right to use the word for boating because we really are in the uncharted waters. i mean, we have a presidential candidate, we little most of the when the uh, nomination of his party. um, he's got full criminal cases pending against them. um some of them a what are the trials may, will take place before the election. um and uh, is there, there was an absolute determination to stop the biden, the who, the president who is well, who actually runs the justice department, has made it clear that he intends to stop them and not by the, you know, by any means is possible. and this is really very dangerous because of trump

has his follow is very, very loyal followers. and they will not just sit still full the whole the how big of a president by the use of law said by the use of the justice department by going off to him with criminal charges. but they've never been brought against the former president. and then you will have to wonder, well, what happens when all of these methods of destroying trump fail? i mean, they like, you know, not just the criminal cases, but for instance, trying to take him off the, the balance again. it's never been done. but you know what with one state offer another try to take him off about that if you really have a very, very explosive mix, who knows how that's going to plan? oh no. is that? oh, that's good. but, you know, martin, this is an interesting thing about american politics. so america is actually

a cool, very decentralized because we have a federal republic of states. but we're trying to face americans do when unison, they use, you should pay taxes. okay. and they only office the entire country. collectively, the lex is the president and vice president as a ticket. and this is the only collective thing left politically in the united states. and as george has just said here, taking a major candidate off the ballot. well, with no good, understandable, reasonable reason is your recording not just chaos worse than chaos. martin? yeah. why you're afraid to say a civil war. that's what we're talking about. yeah, we shouldn't forget america's young country as well. it's a great country, busy young country. and i think, you know, there was so many, what is when we look at this situation, went from an industry system, you know,

and a loading of ground to be broken. um, but it is it, i agree, it is very worried that if he actually gets nailed on the face of these bus prosecutions, i'm faces jail time that there's no good scenario. there's no, there's no, there's no solution. so cool solution for the country or for by know anybody, you know, but there's a missing thing that keeps coming through that. what i've noticed though, is that every time trump gets one of these cases against him, his popularity, souls. and so you've got this kind of, you know, what i'm, i'm sure, even even sleepy joe biden, who just last week did his thing again, almost finishing a speech, turning around facing a blank screen. i'm just sort of looking at the blank screen wondering when someone would jump through and shake his handle like human ice cream or something here he's, he's getting worse scenarios. he's really set to him. you know, 111 does what, what with a, he's worked this out with a bunch of people actually. so the said actually we're in a clear and

a catch $22.00 situation now we, oh, we're in a whole, i'm with digging. and so the outcome is only going to be about um, but you know, none of us go to the christabel notice and say what, what's actually going to happen. i, i think it will be really fascinating to see how this plays up. but again, is it just me as a photo looking out looking in the i'm, it seems to me that there's a little corruption introduced usually system, you know, $11.00 of the politics of just taking over. and i think that might be a basis of some of the comforts attending a new leaf and it will, the next generation of votes is now awesome for develop the politics to be taken completely out of the appeals process. well, george, i mean the, the, the, the interesting fact is we go into this year and we look at american politics. is that if you look over the last, like 3040 years where, you know, wages of stagnated a good paying blue collar jobs and verse really disappeared. so you have

a younger generations plural, but they don't feel like they have any static in the game anymore. um, a lot of young people believe that they'll never be able to own their own home. we have an ideology of live live with less and you'll be happy. well as old rich people say that, okay, no, that's a kind of a long introduction to is the democracy deficit. i mean, the last thing you have is the vote. but if you're not allowed to exercise your vote, then what's this whole thing worth? what's the whole system worth to me? is this exactly right. and this, um, essentially decline in the style of the library. and rebecca, you know, america was always held up to be the paradigm of a wealthy, successful country. and it'd be in the people in europe. we're growing up in the $56.00, the seventy's 8 is think it will end up america. that's where people are making money. that's where it goes with a dynamic uh, economy that isn't there anymore. and uh and, and this actually, it is like

a stagnating demo by up where you have a, you know, a fast hooley lead that is doing very well, making, making a lot of money. um and uh, then hope it didn't help. it didn't hurt the money amended misuse. the agenda is just the green agenda that suits it just fine, but is obviously hurting. most americans who been one way or another, defend all name and manufacturing industry that requires a lot of energy that isn't provided by the alternative recycle fuels. but they say elite is a espousing, and a that's explains the, the rise of donald trump. i mean, the trump is somehow his is promising. well, we'll go back to the arrow when you know we, we were doing well when we, with the,

when we were held up to be the end of this a successful country. and it's very interesting. george is that, you know, when you, we have these populous figures around the world. you know, victor over abundance been dumped on a lot. and we have this a new leadership in, in a slovakia. and they're always called the, their version of trump, which is a metaphor for dissatisfaction with the status. go on and change gears because there's so much we need to talk about in so little time. when they tell us a big birthday coming up this year. and big birthday, you know, when people get to that age, they usually retire, but nato decides they keep going here. what's gonna happen? i mean, this is a make or break one for them. you know, they did their last year with the ukraine, ice indian, and that as we speak right now, there's nothing to cheer about right home about when it comes to ukraine. so nato is really got itself in a jam, of course it, but it's self. there. it's self inflicted or yeah, i've, i've said before, i'm did,

i think that there's 2 scenarios where the for the minutes of us say on is a made. so find a solution to your credit and um, it won't be a great solution, but a solution, some sort of solution where it can present itself to the international community, basically vs its way through whatever they've done. you know, they'll claim that they've got some sort of victory if they can stop the fighting if they can claim the credits and the credit for the stuff in the fighting. that will be what they will present or they will hit us with like news. they'll actually site the entire thing and i'm sure the media people now are actually working out how we can spend this, you know, who we can whelan, you know what you on this we get on board. they must have planning it now, and i'm absolutely certain there's going to be a lot of fake news leading up to june about may. so and what is dawn, and what is the chief, you know, the items going to be the doing the city handshakes. and probably, i think you claim may, will be just completely abreast of the whole thing. because you got to remember

that no matter how much we follow you train um, do you know how do you please, who knows the absolved themselves in the subject. most americans don't remember anything about you claim missing records on where it is on the map. you know, so they might be thinking, actually if we just stop reporting on your crime, oh, i think i judge you're in a better expert outlets. it was the new york times of the washington post that took that subject off their menu bar. they just, i think was last the last week of the year, the dips, the tab that you have that you've been in, ukraine knows they dropped it. okay. or whatever they prepared for it. the preparing us for george. well, i, i do dentist thing, and i've said this before, then they will push for ukraine, a membership in nato. what's, you know, let's of ukraine. they're not going to be able to incorporate those spots of, uh, ukraine then. and i lost the in the, you know, the, uh, the full of bless that, that will be incorporated in the russian federation. but then they will say, well,

this bob is now in nato. and they say they're available, we achieve something. um, and the thing is a, you know, made so for them this is the, the goose that lays the golden egg. it, it is, you know, gives a russian alpha and beta. well, you know, we need to keep going because of the russian scrap. you know this, this is an existential threat for us and the peddling the story. now, you know, throughout native land but rational poses a threat to us, you know, at any moment and you know, they can attack deadlock, i can look back germany, we need nato now more than ever. and the united states, they still are determined on inflicting a strategic defeats on russia. so can you, the last thing you great with this? i really hope that we view is your argument in a martin's argument together. is that, like russia is obviously a threat to nato land, but thinking the air pressure you cream out of it. okay. because we know what the russians are up to. is there a the amalgam there, george?

well, i don't think is because of them. if they just simply abandon ukraine, then they would have to worry that the entirety of your brain will be taken over by russia. that will be a huge, strategic escalation, wants to do that, but there is no other may still be on the geopolitical influence, a russian that they'll come up with some leadership kind of with what they may to with goals, the quiz. leadership being to have some met vet your goal are a stove which like vega would be basically doing the bidding of moscow. that's how they would spin this, where they said that's the, that's how they would see it. and therefore, this would be a strategic defeat for made. so i don't think that that's the operative word strategic would be. but for whom gentlemen i have to jump in here, we're going to go to a short break. and after that short break, we'll continue our discussion about the new year. stay with our team, the

people very in the environment that grow up in some people gloating there it is easy places and living very diseased places of the people living areas that have less infectious diseases. and when you grow up in an area of high attraction, since each individual strategically go to the collector, this are conservative in the the welcome ex. across that were all things are considered. i'm peter labelle. this is a home addition to mind. you were discussing the year 2024. the

all right, let's go back to a martin the america. um. unfortunately, we conflict in gaza. the continues. and how is this going to change your region of the world where you live? because, you know, we've, you know, we've often heard the narrative, but you know, era believes they've never really been particularly interested in the face of the past and people. but there people do, i mean when democracy isn't the, the, then the political system that comes to mind when you think of the greater middle east. okay. so the, the, the error of the street, if i can use that term, i know a lot of people don't like it, but there is a very strong feeling about what's going on and cause in the how it relates to how they see the outside world, particularly the west, when in my view is gonna turn the clock back to the pre 1991. when we had the site, the coal i so i think there's going to be an intensive level of division divided by subject. you know? yes, our countries,

particularly some of the leads who have really sold themselves on the whole palestinian story like um and it went into p o m b as in saudi arabia, there's been a palestine is a really big part of the political identity. those, those leaders are gonna have a hard time, the best thing with the realities of what's going on. but i think we might seen emergence adult from perhaps, um, not, no such a. what i'm trying to say is that something which we on a secretive sort of emotions, authorise coalition of some of these are countries that my will fund terrace activities with homeless in the future. so that may, will come from iran cutoff. we'll talk about, you know, looking at the rest of the world. what you see is now the division, you know, you've got some countries that are really making a stance against what's going on. like, uh, i'll just area for example. um, um,

any other country like morocco here an m or us who uh mails to the bank posts of the hill ho is ready do unfortunately they're in too deep. you know, they've invested too much business wise, you know, and so forth. so and the last division we can expect, and i think the, the breaking point of this sort of dishes plan i think, which is on the way you know, which might take months to get off the ground. but i think that's happening against as well. but you know, the region, you know, you, you can probably put a bet on to bind, to messing things up and just escalate to the situation even further because it's just a mix space with last week. also, we're, we're talking about american, forget some aircraft carriers taking potshots who tease interest, see, you know, and then we're even talking about pitching or it's happened actually, you know, there was a white house. and depending on the reporters, on a number of us as strikes on

a rainy back from issues in the rack. so we're almost there, you know, we've been to it what we've seen at george over ever since the, the, and the global war on terror outside of the israel, who does the united states count on in the middle east now? i mean, i'm not sure the list is very long. right? a rack told them to leave, they won't leave in the united states illegally occupied part of, of syria, the saudis. oh they're, they're pretty moody they can go, but they have a lot of leverage right now. okay, and they shown very little respect for the pop by the ministration, barry, but on this. exactly. right. i believe literally since here there feels the sad part of this is that in the united states, there's been no change at all. i mean, if you look at congress, it's still 90 percent, maybe 95 percent. absolutely. unequivocally behind is what it means that it can do

anything. i mean this of which is, you know, the, the tomorrow or just the release the nuclear weapons and you still get the 95 percent per se. we must done with is around the, you know, that the is where this white thing for its existence and nothing can change that and it's, it's, it's so polling as you know, for looks of the mid lease. i mean the of publicity is modern. describes of these divisions, but the fact is that, you know, with, with many of the, these arrow countries, oh, they haven't even broken diplomatic relations with israel. i mean i, they, so they can be continuing the same way. i mean, they haven't said, oh, we now renounce the abraham the codes that say, you know, this was, you know, we made a huge mistake. this is a for reflect terrible state that we've uh, established diplomatic relations that hasn't ended. so yeah, they make these condemnations that go to the united nations maple the right noises, but in practical times, but haven't really done anything. i mean, as a whole,

i mean, i'm us and the hooters. and then the other ones were actually doing something addressed that issue because then you, you really have this division between the leads that have their very specific interest. and then everybody else then for everybody else, this issue of palestine is paramount. yeah, i think come on, george mentioned practical level. the practical level i think, is not going to come from political leads on the practical level is gonna come from people, individuals, you know, who, who would want to be in his ready, businessman now traveling around them. at least, you know, i mean there is a hell of a kick, but there's a lot of anti semitism now which is frothing the surface and i'm where i am in morocco. now you house inside the political body's not representing hundreds, thousands of people who are cooling now. for is riley's who have joined possible. it's america to now actually lose the citizenship, the american citizenship. so it's, it's pointing up in some places and it's a little, there's a contradiction around the time. you know, i'm officially head morocco. was he trying to see that?

but a lot of you got to you have a huge amount of number of people who are really unhappy about that. and so i think on a practical level, you're gonna see a little resistance. just look at the internet, just go to facebook and see the informal level of boy coating is what has gone through now is not just to two's taken. put shots of the ships. it's, you know, countries and people all around the world. a boy cutting their products and really campaigning quite vociferously. you know, i mean, there's a lot of awareness now out there on facebook. google is really product, so i'm noticing the range of products. the companies that support is right as well . and as a distinction to so the practical level is the political leads will have to recognize this at some point, when they head towards the elections, they have to recognize the millions of people who don't sign up to that. well, the judge cool. the 95 percent of congress backing israel, you know, so there will be a turning point at some point. i'm not in 2024 is incredibly interesting. not just because you've got by them heading to the polls. if he does,

if he actually makes it, i'm still not sure, you know, with this civility the way it is, i mean is, how many times can we mess up? you know, before the democrats suddenly panic of the last moment. but don't forget, you got your p and elections in june as well, and this is much, much bigger in my view because, you know, just mentioned earlier about fatigue, you know, assessing in across the america and how the system seems to be slowing down. and there's a lack of confidence now in the political elite sooner. but in, in, in, in europe, that trends that transcends into people voting for, for right groups as a present practice. what i, so you mentioned earlier about fall, right the, the populace leaders now, you know, got another one in the netherlands, which is just one. and i'm president, i'm president a number of seats. i'm my political friends in belgium and telling me this is going to have an impact on the firm's block in the ocean as well. and so, you know, watch the elections in june in the european parliament because that is going to be

a deal breaker for. well, it's really interesting, georgia in budapest year. it's interesting watching the political landscape changing in europe and the other lands we have of the alternative for germany party, under pressure by the government. we had changing government slovak, you, we had an attempted re colored revolution and sign in serbia. but there's one political figure that stands in the same place, watching the landscape change. let's picture of a, of the vicar, or by the end of the he blazed the trail and all those products. but the curious thing is about these. um, you know, what, what are the uh, dobs for the fall right? populace is that while on russia and ukraine, they say no, i have so this has nothing to do with us. this is really stupid to europe when it comes to israel. avail, very strangely, pro israel, you know, or band band any pro palestinian demonstrations,

loaded with the united states in the united nations. exactly. and the general assembly of build is also very uh pro is right. um and uh it, it's, it's a piano and it goes if, if the reform body of this is nigel for roger spot, it stands in the, the u. k. elections for ours is also very pro israel. so this is kind of a, a, it's like just junction navigate to the right, which again, hey, russia, there's nothing to do with that. that's stupid to fight with them. but they've very much in the, the time for around israel. so, you know, it's hard to know how all of these things are a kind of do a shakeup. um and then again in the united states. yes, i mean no question bite and there's lots of lots of support within his own party who were a very unhappy about his stance. so a garza but you could always do those people. you tell them if you don't vote for by then trump the terrible trump is going to come back to the challenge that i the

iron need to it's a trump is very pro, is free about exactly the other one. yeah. yeah. let's try it out. martin, and that's one of the things that i find really disheartening is that conservatives who used to be of the biggest defenders of free speech or now some of the biggest oppressors of re speech in it all revolves around this issue of israel. what is and ty summit is i'm, i think most people have no idea what zine is and really means and how it does kind of short circuits the, the discourse george's just mentioned to. it just shuts down to by just not gonna assume you sort of that somebody as soon as you sort of that into, into the argument, you know. yeah. and the other person is supposed to stop talking and we don't really understand anything beyond that. and you know, i've seen this in the u. k, a lot was debate about some racism and in total that i'm a victim of it. but i'm,

it's true. i don't think it's a conservative thing or less thing. all right, we thing, i think it some that leads generally in my experience as a journalist like i'm like, they tend to hop on about freedom of speech until they buy someone else, you know, and then there's a problem and then, and then the lawyers get wheeled out and get paid, you know, close to the amounts of money to fix the problem. um, but so you know, free speech looking back, you know, last year and now looking ahead to 2024. i wonder how much freedom of expression will play a role in dispute, political move them, at least changes that we're witnessing, you know, where the people completely abandon mainstream media and just go by, you know, it's interesting, unfortunately, gonna have to end on this. no, but george, you know, i hope that you know, in future generations they won't turn back and say, you know, like us on, on, on cross talk. you those with the days when they had freedom of speech, it must have been great. 5 seconds, george, go ahead. yeah, i think it,

they may well be that will it be very resuming 12 months? time was a well now it's really, really dangerous. you know, when it, when i'm not able to get any kind of free speech anymore. so yeah, this is uh, this one definitely i think is going to, it was, i think as a, i didn't say it was and it was unfortunately, so then we got the end on that depressing note i, when i think my guess in america and in budapest and of course i, when i think our viewers for watching us here in our dc and next time, remember the prospect leads of the, the take a fresh look around. there's a life kaleidoscopic, isn't just a shifted reality distortion by power type vision with no real opinions

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