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tv   Going Underground  RT  December 30, 2023 12:30pm-1:01pm EST

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so good of you to join us and share some a good time with us here. thank you very much for your time today. and basically, it seems to me as good as a very, very good to have you with us here. when i say i wanted to ask you if i may about one of the most severe hot spots in the world today, the continued war on gaza in the past 24 hours. the tuckers president has described b as rarely prime minister netanyahu as was done hitler, and then under your leadership. so unless a was written accusing israel, a quote, genocidal on slower regarding the war on gaza. can you please tell me how both the turkish president and you yourself have come to these conclusion? first of all, let me uh, explain of uh, initiative uh sort of the or um, guys, uh these the destruction of hospitals, chance shooting shared with them on civilian deals. the sounds leading for additional 70 the leg choose bullet on the walls from 40 different countries,
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almost already, agents, all 18 cruise races, content and scholars. we came together, former prime ministers, or you and advisors for tours, similar to you and the phone where you go to shoes. and for the noble prize winner, a peace prize. you're gonna say well to talk to use at human rights defenders became together. and to do the 1st question was, what is the situation of augusta? how can be described a we had a lengthy discussion in the b degreed. one of the defining it is a genocide. why? because sale to the crimes that goes through my idea of you can call me to buy a new society army at signing forces and the not be spect credible to
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any you might need to know, such as not to attack hospitals or any international blow and international more low, you one, eh, respecting and civilian places you use sites, hospitals average accounts, children on what is going on him, does a lot of these 1st victim ease uh, war service, duration of many uh, issues like to watch airport in as soon as they are starting to get up or anything, get up to the chronic perspective for the technician low, you asked me who to call. so there's always some to for, to get into identifies guys the best bang as far as the new land and the off the science. we drove all the forces from the state of georgia, that's about a year, and i see a success one from the time on, you know, basic human rights are quite a stimulus and not being respected. this is that they point to come back position.
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these are these based on the basic uh, a package for the uh, garage. oh wow. we called off through the stipulation the call you and he said the un morgan's right us to, to but they can show them the us government, especially us. and you can reach, declare, uh, quantity shows up on the east side. be ask them to respect international not to have genocide grounds, but you talk about the respective international law. so on, on how this to stay solution has been discussed for so many years at the united nations. when you talk about the u. n. being a global governing body, why is it that the u. n. is apparently effective in helping the palestinian coles in the palestinian state. this is because of the kind of it's used to go. i
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published a book once the order published by a general general was depressed because of this structural un, un 10, that's a thing. any decision a week ago, the following best stays a lease on the see should assume that all the as well as 90 congress, a doing one issue on the bottom country such as us rejects these uh proposal. but why, why, why is it not so i'm so sorry, i do apologize for interrupting you. but why is it that the united states consistently vote against the un resolutions that, according for an immediate cease fire in gaza, because it's actions from washington that it's causing concern around the world is causing confusion. why is washington apparently so and see peace and pro bowl in? gosh, i mean, it's almost like an empty human agenda, frankly. when we look at the be, is some principles of the 1st level,
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based on the use of the principles, which is the bought the main, the american import of the plan. it's going to be study. i see a services i to they all state the many you and you guys wanted to show us do not see side as an organ of a state like other states. i think the problem is god alone. why didn't you of the each i decided staying as sort of like sure, prestige, many, many come hi, uh, new politicians in order to leave their nations or in order to have some sort of influencing already called economy getting political circles. they need so far don't usually. so is not the issue for americans use a domestic issue. and that is that the last thing is paul, or circle inside us pro is not a statement, is there must, this is the basic diagram of us today and the different criteria for different
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issues on some subjects. and the defense un, basic principles of territory integrity or m a basic human rights. when do you want to do so? but what is the right side of the exception we'd like to hear about from new york? do they like to talk about the rules space international or they don't talk like they, they like to talk about exceptional countries like the united states, and i'm like you said israel as well. but it is bizarre to see because we're talking genocide, we're talking more crimes the war on goss, i'm more than 20000 civilians have been killed. where is the rules based international order? so this is exactly the voice of what we want to raise. these is the word, so you my, you know, cautious there is no gotchas, any major is trying to administer to that. so it's got a pre owned, a new level, dudley. this little area is you can get that all the regionals to be affected. but
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folder is right, is it easy to show the nation to hosting no other state drive to the power neither your key nor each solve the design made it? what does this appear to be sure? this is the question. when they call themselves, are we some people the chosen people to enter? they call themselves god's people, the chosen people. all states, most vehicles, each other. that should not be a human, each cut, the purity stage or stage such as right the whole space that oppose space. this is already good to step 2 of international the night. not feeling interest of genocide in does it. but just to any really step just for any stage or for any nation or for any reason, it's not going to be easy. so when you consider the strain, the strength of all the western media landscape of the western political landscape,
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whether it's kind of soft power influence. but now we see what's happening here on the world. so continues to watch in a horror as we entering the 3rd month of this guy. leslie gossley was i wanted to ask you about the concerns that the war on guys could open up onto multiple fronts . you've got the hezbollah and elaborate on her mouse and gaza. you've also thought, for example, you had an endo who with these that a targeting is rating link ships in the red sea. america is creating another coalition of the willing, of a security flotilla of all the ships from different countries to secure and patrol the red sea. but here's what i want to ask you because america's coalition of the willing is kind of falling apart. spain, italy from australia, they're all saying, no, they're refusing to join this for tele security emission in the red sea. why do you think traditional american allies right now are saying no to the flotilla security escal, send the red sea here because it is
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a very clear picture to get all who need sick print to your protection is right or by student use is right. it has all the power indeed. have your variable very heavy airplanes, a horse navy force times he said doesn't lead projection studio. people made this production bodies doing? yes, indeed. alone, they have time for the front of the last the, the permit is the children ages above. but of course us, administration and all these possible people in the past, the sure respect they will lose. they claim that they have been defending this the me, the whole proceed, freedom of choice, easily speaking, freedom of choice, what i say they decide in 6 they made a prediction and how much will that explain? why don't we split?
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i am really. ringback crunched on to these guys is really the v lead to ever get a lower for crisis. do you want a global? well, this is a problem. it's been do you mind? can you say that to be the end of the stuff and it didn't do it. you know, nobody wants this war to expand into a larger regional. well, we will know that the palestinians don't have an air force. they don't have a navy. and when it comes to the palestinian state, i've had people describe it as a piece of cheese over the years they keep trying to negotiate for the full full this line for the palestinians. but every year with more is really supplements that piece of cheese gets smaller and smaller and smaller and smaller on the palestinians. you know, it's like they don't really have any way left. do you think that the 2 state solution is dead in the water? do you think you can actually come to fruition as being and it is not that because being to by design is there no, i don't see any part of it any, any you want us requirements are left for by start and oh come see raises the worst
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good, what are you? how can you eliminate, or how can you, eh, they come to be and then show this to you. i just asked them to i, it was a negotiate to me, the age of the menus and is right. and what it's doing is say, in 2009 was 2002 or 2014, who was in all these guys was i was maybe to between 2 sides. when i would have, i tried to convince homicide to make it low to see if i said how much side was telling us and that they should, they want to have to stay solution. you want me to go. i think it's right. how much i always said, yes, i don't know if i could send these georgia usually go in most of the exit to these peer to accept what templates there's the whole east side and the price the the
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site should be. is it because pays that for in 2012, 28 november iowa to be present mom of the bus in un general assembly bennett. but his time has been recorded by un general assembly is not a member such as a space. and on the arching 8 or land called 3 said know including you and if you as well as $28.00 countries, said yes for. but it's the new state. now, there should be a full guarantee endorsed by us, or could you come to the including yours? that's what a studio state must be established when you and the level of governing body is apparently so inapt and effective and enforcing something here that this as you say, so much of the world supports there's 2 state solution. so i, i must ask you
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a question if, if i may, going back to the attack on october, the 7th, understand cairo had been warning israel for approximately 2 months that have mass was reportedly finding a, quote, unprecedented attack. but no action was taken by you are a former prime minister, you know, how government agencies interact. did you do find it surprising? the, the intelligence was not acted upon. yes, there would be some civil speculation to some of these and into and you know, but you know, very difficult situation because of the production issues legally shows in the country at, at some sort of passion where we had team and to restore his position in the in the ice the field, but i think he did not on spain such a preparation for uh by the, by the, by products thing inside that, but the speed not sure. i, i totally be saying that need to be the cost of editing stuff to the several to
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october. know several. so there is a combination of a crisis, and they'll come the dictates all cases of the old savings, the based on the main pro cations one was for several months that were, is riley, and insulting and being reading oxygen in the status of them and rescue production storing it as it was friday, 3 years is riley dos, waste stops, and just the most. so this was the question where the issue reached affected prices deals. people always thing segment about stick only. c o 2. this is denise, possibly to what else they sent me some states they know the relational sweetie to include in charge of my work. i mean i could you started the position as well. that
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was very common ground. oh oh, i see members that normally additional if he's right of you not to be finalized for really not be realize if we don't quite a story sort of day and not as the relations of states is we now returning to products, daniel drive. oh, what of seeing us right as being as state to be astonished. so part of the table, the message got by pressing aside the yeah, it will let us miss things left us at all in terms of going into, let's go to zillow or the process have not been full to be have to take all this thing, you know, ok to these pro, okay. just for within, you know, in un showed that if the do not now be available able to, even though you stood it shut down because i missed your that's your best bet
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because we'll set this as the it all, they're all allegations that have circulated. but the night before the attack, so the night of october, the 6, there are allegations that he is ready. government issued a stand down order to the id f for the following day. can you comment on any of that? do do, do you think, let me ask you this, do you think net on yahoo might have known the attack was coming? we don't have any indication of these, but it's lawyer because we've had the registration really, nathaniel, who wanted to have a sort of pension in order to sign for these books, the positioning said otherwise, people don't show that these might be un g was a very probably do in less months because these are correct either and losing the grounds in sure, i sure this type of caught up and be those they to them. it lead thing i never use to product in all of our these should not undermine the vice thing. to protect the
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lens, there is no wrong, this is stronger force than and nation. the finding data on let's be have to respect these plays being dignity. and at the same time also be have to as my, the biggest variety is what is the, what is this? i guess they don't go go and, and criticizing nathaniel 50. so i think the idea of when it comes to when it comes to israel getting it support, of course that's go to support from america. it's also getting pretty standard support from your typical g 7 countries in europe and elsewhere. but you also have the entire islamic world supporting the palestinians. why do you think you have your family, traditional g 7 member states, so i will put it in a position of opposition to the islamic world. you're going to use that as well. so i see was very impressive. i didn't the 1st stage of the prices. i mean an
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explanation. we type of may just be implemented. they got it from the side and gratian. but this mission, congress did not include in any effective major, i guess the slide. wow. you won't be trained by in between as turkey on the side be been the other mission constantly. so i want to use that to, to have been lost. like, i mean the closing bidding b a is on for designing flights. unfortunate. the g 730 shall use certain countries in the history male. they have a social cubes. regarding jewish population, like germany, we are being country just for on 2nd of all the war. they are expecting it the biggest indeed the prize full day or for use to be paid by part of students
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and like us the already okay. validated a strong desire to be but but it's genius. i'm not responsible for any watering costs or any eh, hmh, and tension and goes jewish. well, people have arrived. the most vision in, you know, in 1st space is beautiful. the grasses in certain concerts that are bad for you using the new one. so version it has been since it seems as obvious services, you know, we are a whole lot of the 70s, but we are a guess the supremacy order shows a nation off is really fun. live in terms of it being is i does not mean are they sent me to being here? yes, it is right. and means being engaged. ibp being i guess the turn your cheating children
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feeling well. not able to be on the start menu that is on his image of you. so the machine that there's an autism, me get you studying you. well, i'm finding out we started, sir, according to some, some people say that as a reluctance from neighboring countries in the region to a take in palestinian refugees, how would you comment on that? no reasonable company, any plans, any actually i guess is just stopped beside aggregating at the today's the patient was continued. this is a shame, a shameful action that still i supported at present add ons statement accusing these actions as genocide. i really criticize i accepted today the relation between the silent georgie, today's the nation, the great from here i want to make your call to original impulse or
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to implement as tentative for me. it was, i guess design not i don't mean military connections. no, but the site it was no, that's the can not believe in these regions. if the lovely spring right, the right to having 40 to cool a see what is this being illegal? next, may not have guns is missing because the, the relation of it is right. and they are, they are 18. yes. ok this me, it's the last that will be so says 5, this is very important. let's the reach and a lot of these, if they want to have peace, there's no gods, it should sound clear messages to us, and you a clear message must be using your almost as your interest in this region. you have to respect to part of the know people side. if there is no part of seeing us, the,
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the, the store, all the sheets, you'll see these, right? and there should be another part of the pressure to be able to be implemented or destroyed by you as us as the russian role here is very important because the form in the 5 member clock did reach has model 92, and the positions such as eastern russia, that's for idle editor to present, to, to uh, asking him to, in the sense, to boss, to conduct the bottoms. these pro is riley low, be me all states. i don't let just any others to try me as the president she, i don't get this to say what a print present you present as well as how the present because these to be friends . so convenience, such as so i'll pick up the more effective a global south side global south, you know, the seo,
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the bricks i see on the razor. and you and you and we, we are seeing this multi polar world, essentially taking the planet by storm at the moment you're seeing all these calculations, these groupings, strategic partnerships, economic alliances, all these countries are coming together. and i think there's a good number of them that are doing so for their own self protection and prosperity when it comes to the war on gods are right now, it would seem that the united states and israel that the almost siamese twins right now, that's so connected in this war, and at the end of the day when you look back, whether iraq afghanistan, ukraine, gaza, taiwan in the future. but then it always seems to be traditional players as part of the geo political storm. songs say it's because the imperialist hedge him on is coming to an end, perhaps both financially, but perhaps more importantly, more really, what are your thoughts as i am for this position?
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in fact, i put the money in my book, published by cabbage drawers to prison in 2020 systemic uh quick. and we'll be sure that i analyze this. i think problem 1989 after the last. so, i mean, yeah, no, but the cold war and so that's so sorry if you're needing 1991 eh, to box from the time data go to some video, took the eh, it to me. see uh, the piece of the, i know this is such as she and the history and the time i was in the academic, i sent the stuff to you. so the negative balance of the new crisis and the jump, all it takes to be right again. and it's getting from that time off to now there was no peace that was one of the problem positives and frozen sparks. this is the arrows to sway above. i cool and the deal put it into the total weight we tried holding my will do
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a particular quick step from 9 to 9. if you want to know it continues. and these joe pointed to politically his not being installed until now. now there is in new york voltages and i see, and these jo, both x rays connecting us or the us was the, the project of the piece. but missed use of you guys are good to go. so me shoes. oh visual power. and you asked me to go through these throwing the basic barriers, and you don't want to go regularly over there to make blue coming back. and this page is a region alteration. and this regional trash was able to being supported by the short the powers. please made tons of each transforming. it said to that global cash. he's got the ease and arlene signal for us. if we want to
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have a peaceful picture for the money to that should not be superior power. that should not be pretty rich nation that should not be chosen that visual chosen religion. there should be only long basic rule of human beings. all human beings are equal to each other regardless of data. really just as a fact that even better an allstate, in that social tab, some sort of a new causal division of the generation organizations. and that is a very admirable comment, very extensive and insightful and a very powerful statement to wrap up. this conversation with the full talk is probably minutes documented of the audio. joining us here on asi international, very interesting commentary. indeed, thank you so much for your time. thank you very much. the
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[000:00:00;00] the that can use of all see is 14 civilians including 3 children are killed in the ukraine in the tax on the russian city, a po, good $108.00. people have been left wounded after the cross of port, a striking wounded and washing, so not comfortable for ukraine's deadly attack on the old drug that's according to the russian foreign ministry of the incident will be brought to the un security council. also the solid russian military officials so you can use a cluster munitions in the upsides which it launched in order to distract some from its failures on the buckle field is really the key for gene which committed the crime. he's trying to distract attention from the defeats at the front as well as

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