problems on perhaps most critic place the u. s. blasting. because in case you didn't know us, congress has decide to that is really energy is in the highest national security interest of washington. so p. c, it was our need to have fee for tennessee to become a teen global path all through. it had itself previously molder ways in which to make it's $55.00 states, a window onto your, to the and other interesting application of nuclear excavation would be a sea level canal at 160 miles long across east real connecting the mid of training with the gulf a comma investor as see in the indian ocean such a canal would be strategically valuable alternate to the prison suez canal. so it's canal is a gold mine. it connects the mediterranean sea to the indian ocean via the red sea . it is the link between asia and europe every day, live $3000000.00 barrels of oil, 8 percent of global energy, 50 ships,

non $1000000000.00, as well as a call go 12 percent of global trade. it pass along this right here. single canal. remember in 2021 how a container ship ron of ground and the suez global trade was built to its knees. the alternative route, divide the cape of good hope as around 9 days and 7000 kilometers for johnny. there was no replacement for suez canal, except perhaps for the grand canal. the us had been thinking about back in the sixty's was dropping 520 nukes on part. so this ro, able to build a 260 kilometer long canal that would start out the red sea down there in the port city of a lot run through the negative. does it on poor out into the mediterranean where exactly right next to north in golf, the same north and garza that is currently being bombarded and the populated egypt

and it's money making suez canal would just be sidelined. the 2nd egypt that we might have it is now considering taking in refugees in exchange for debt relief by the us. and if you think it's, it's crude of me to told business during times of it, it's a sensual. think again, the winning companies have committed to unprecedented investment in natural gas exploration over the next 3 years, which would helpful result in the discovery of new natural gas reserve wars. in recent weeks, kind of be pounded out 12 new licenses to 6 companies on top of the pond to tap more of the dos and reading resources. this area is a strategic goal of mine. he's raise how about law just for and based on the red face, just off our trail on here, a bit slow, the down. a patient has a naval base and to boot c a t piece, and it's a known less global infrastructure project, about road a to bike nanda and brussels in washington. like ways of yourself. we both know who

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used by us mainstream media to describe the political instability in countries of the global cell, most commonly thrown in latin american countries for the many presidents having and thrown behind bars for corruption. well, could these chickens have come home to roost? as the world watches several cases brought against the us? 45th president, donald trump unfold before the cameras. today we'll take a look at the us drama, and the many cases of world leaders who go from president to present. all right, let's get into the m o. the is the 1st in us history. a former poetess indicted on a myriad of charges ranging from corruption to some that are tantamount to

fomenting a crew or blocking the transfer of power. donald trump, now the face of this watershed moment ahead of the 2024 elections here in the us, where he is by many measures. not only the leading opposition candidate against incumbent joe biden, but the leader of the path to win. all these trials he's facing our spark and the conversation of a weaponized justice system against political foes. while this is the 1st for the wes, this is not the case around the world. so joining us to discuss the many people who have gone from their nation's highest office to a miserable prison cell. it is ecuadorian journalist esteban cadell, he is the editor at the cradle. you can follow him on twitter or x, i still call it the former followed him at esteban car, lock c a r l o p. so as the month,

as we watch these trials of donald trump unfold, historic for the us, no form or post has ever been indicted on anything ever before. you being a journalist outside of the us and also and ecuadorian citizen. what goes through your mind? what do you think of what's happening here in the us? well, i think of seeing everything that is happening relating to trump. uh, the 1st thing that comes to my mind is that uh, it's a situation that has been a long time call me. and as you said, there is no former precedent that has actually been indicted or much less made to uh, you know, sent to prison for our crimes committed during their administration. and uh, which we trump embrace is a lot of questions because what it, what it feels like it's, uh, it reminds me of, uh, what booting said recently that uh these uh, is uh, political persecution above the o. 8 o is persecution of a political opponent. and uh its uh, he talked about the roth and as

a very traditional system and i think uh, this is uh, very much the view outside because uh outside of that you was with him not a general and see that the things the same way that uh people inside of the us see it. uh, we do not exist in that same bottle. so uh, the suppression withdrawn with the coming elections with the with bindings on legal problems which are the attorney general's into us seem to be honestly this interested into looking into them. it feels like, like i said, like something that has been a long time calling because it also speaks to the, to the level of the patient that exists within the united states. that up, according to some researches uh, is reached a point that is uh, essentially reversible, you know, between democrats and republicans and another thing that jumps in my mind that he's a dave, it's a part of the system. you know, and it's uh, it seems to exist uh to serve the same interest, you know, internally,

maybe the republicans and the democrats may have a different system that are some small. busy outside, when it comes to foreign policy, you know, it almost doesn't matter who is sitting in that, in the white house because in the u. s. foreign policy has for so many back. it's now being centered on, on the war, on sending weapons on law fair on sanctions. and now, i don't know if, if the drums case is indeed a case of an offer, but the way that it's being deployed it's, that's going to be racing many questions. so far, 30 or 40 years now, the u. s. has often chided latin american countries for prosecuting its own leaders . us mainstream media likes to use terms like banana republic, to describe some of these arrests of these presidents in central and south america . do you sense any, have pock received or perhaps even irony right now,

given this historic moment for the us there is definitely a high level of the bumper. see a given what is happening that you as an even before. and i have a lot of irony indeed. yes, because uh, the, this idea about, uh, nothing american countries are running a republic. see. so it goes from a colonial, his perspective, you know, and this idea that we kind of go over in ourselves, that we need, you know, over 3 years now we need to, you know, do what we're told essentially. and this call is from the, from the euro. when the spanish, the, for to visa french, the british, it took over these land. and, you know, do what they need to do with the indigenous population. and it's, if it remains, it may have to say might be or remain. so now we have a us precedent, essentially facing the situation that is um, in the scope, the base to what has happened before in the, in many like in american countries. although to be honest in nothing, america,

the interventions or the, the yes the us interventions they have bein and usually targeting people who represent the national these movements or you know, along political lines left these movements communist and socialism. and not so much when it comes to the right wing. so i would say that's mainly the, the biggest difference right now with what we see, what's happening with all the truck. all right, so let's get into a more specifics of presidents past and present in south america who has faced legal trouble. talk to us a little bit about lula da silva in brazil. he was president from 2003 to 2010, but then he found himself in some legal trouble through what is now known as operation car wash. he was convicted on corruption charges, but then fried and clear to run again in brazil as most recent presidential

election against incumbent jr. bull sonata, he emerged victorious, and is currently the president of brazil again. but now also, nato might face legal was he might end up in prison to what's going on with brazil, and this sort of ping pong match of political foes behind bars of what is currently happening in brazil is essentially the return of the rule of law of institution that lady, eh, because i think there are more parallels between what is happening to both so nato to add to what is happening to trump down. what happened to that because the was the big the uh, filter of the, of the use of the judicial system to persecute uh, a person for political gain political object. so what happened in brazil with the job the investigation was that of the united states department of justice. give me share to these investigation they initiated to i small prosecutor office in

brussels of hardest right. city. and so, you know, and f b i, agents were meeting constantly with uh, with this prosecutors, they charging the gaze was meeting also was talking to prosecutors directing them on how to, to leave the gaze towards the worst of workers party who represent that a, a national project for the a project of national development, least i believe 36000000 people that are over the he essentially ended in new jersey. he is up in albany or, you know, he doesn't have he, he has his flaws. but he's, he was the target of a campaign that sought to remove him from the ballad in 2018 and he was putting brace on this and pursue that. some supreme court, they uh, an old, old, all the evidence which were uh, essentially what they are known as corps. agree. bargained testimonies that were of pain eh, after many trials by the prosecutor,

after many attempts by the prosecution to get the testimony that they wanted. that's it, they're all political balls. i'm on all other types of manipulation. i think on the other hand, most are not all key. uh, he's under trial for uh, for corruption, for a different cases. i believe probably the one that has the most spoken about is that you keep in gifts that the, sorry, if i'm going to gave him us both on nato and he was also a bar, is now from running for office until 2030 because in the lead up to the 2021 election he, i won't go into gathered. i don't know how many i believe it was about dawson, for a non boss, others in the room and essentially yelled at them about what he said was going to be brought committed against it, against them via the electronic voting system in brazil. so. busy keep track and then if you're late the election result, the 9, this is where the similarities to the trunk situation come on. smart and what's not

always a is a man that represents the computer. what's who? no one who never present that. she's essentially a neo nazi, he's of mine as the bus will be leaving the rise of indigenous people. he's the one that believes that corporation should do as they please. i don't know if you remember a, during his tenure and there were these giant, the forest fires indiana song and they were for a big part that were initiated by the practices of this corporations with both scenarios. you know, they actually allow them to go in to, to expel indigenous people from their own communities to raise the line, to, to burn down trees so that they could, uh, set up their operations. so it does the situation in brasil it was a case of law firm that expended are across nothing american right extended to my own country and it was all the other brick a scandal. it ended with the persecution of left the seat or 5 go there with the ink cars ration of his vice president autoglass who had spent 5 years in

prison. and during now, you know, you can survive 25 present massacres. he and also at the same time in that by the, not a single other birds executive was never persecuted. so that shows you how did you additional systems in or countries have been a kind of uh, turn against a popular projects, a turn against political and i guess political figures represent a in general represent uh the same ideology coming up next. there's only one country in the western hemisphere whose polls show that they are even less happy with their government. then americans find out who when we return with esteban codio sit tight. m o will be right back. the

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citizen the question the the, the welcome back to the m. o i manila, chad. while it's no shocker to anyone that in most western democracies, most of the public is never too happy with who they elected to office. i don't know, maybe it's buyer's remorse. maybe it's something else. to. esteban claudio, the editor of the cradle, is back with us to guess try to unpack that. so how about peru,

esteban not long ago, just before christmas of 2022, president federal castillo was carted off to jail, immediately ahead of an impeachment vote against him. what were the circumstances around custio's case, and where is he now? precision is it because figure is a different case. i would say because castillo, essentially what happened he, he did what uh could we can see there as us. busy cool, she the so, um apartments. it's a even though he didn't have the, the legal or the constitutional and grounds to do with it. but he did it because he needed to achieve bulk of inability cuz he was taking the prism about a year in 5 months into his. he's a government custody. you was a real teacher. he came essentially from nothing. he's a, it was 1st left his precedent. but he came to power with the issue. she couldn't a really go over. so when you get this old man,

but when he attempted to the sold parliament, it was because for the past year and a half, she was not able to do anything. he couldn't even swear in his own ministers because the far right groups in the program congress, but i'm not a visit and they would have been launch the launch of 3 impeachment proceedings. i can just, i mean the time that she was enough is the one that came out from the moment you step in from the moment she won the elections, the one that came up. so eh, custody, you're also has a, the issue that uh, before he won, she started to distance himself from the, from the region of last, you know, at some point in time. so anyone who was the band event as well and project it would defend. because my daughter and then a few months later, she would not get to come once more. uh, in america we, we say uh, give you, you know, warm water like, or you want to play with everyone, but you have absolutely no strength to do so. so you play to do play to the strengths of the other side because all of the media who have all the corporations

and who have the backing up in another state. so not at all. they are being ruled by a precedent of the novel water, big 4 guys, up 12 percent approval rating, the congress guys on 99 percent approval rating of the need and customary. so these and 71 percent of peruvian ceos approval model out of it. so that tells you a lot of where, where she stands and she's also b 9 investigated for the depths of about 6. the protestors who died when custody you was putting bruce on. so custody is still in prison. she's the reason to be saying that he's the big the most of a plot that uh, you know, they tried to do is booking someone. but uh, as far as we know, this is something that uh, submitted it to himself. and the interesting thing about the that it was finding that i, when i was researching is that, um, opened the product and i'm a product key elect the price, it ends up having elected and produces the mid eighties having the risk. so, you know, but those tells you how the corruption runs in the country. yeah,

the peruvians are even less happy with their government then americans are based on these polls. so these incidents with presidents, they're not isolated to latin america. it happened in france and 2021, but without much global fanfare, certainly not much talk about it. here in the us. france being america's oldest ally, saw the former president nicholas or cosy convicted and sentenced to prison for 3 years on corruption charges. they say he quote was influence peddling and violated professional secrecy. hm. that sounds familiar. stateside 2 circles. he is now facing yet another trial that's scheduled for 2025, around a ledge money received from the late libyan leader and well marked adolphe star. cosy, who's a lawyer that turned a politician, faces charges of corruption, again,

criminal association, illegal campaign financing. and conspiracy in this using libyan public money. your thoughts on circles the. i think it's what's most interesting about it is why you said how little it was spoken about, you know, starting to see she is actually not a hasn't been arrest if she has been to think of the utmost between a he, um he's, he's going to be a we've, we've got ocoee sees very chevy. uh, when i was looking into it, you know, cut off the before nato started bomb being uh, libya about 2 days be. busy worth a nato answered. she said in a television interview that she had given money to. ready come panels of cyprus, cnn to, to wherever you close, before you know, maybe it was uh, was the when. uh, ams deals with friends. eh, it'd be suited perry's under uh, surfaces government for the 1st time in 30 years. so it was, uh, you know,

like i said, he's very easily. he's a very interesting case that he's not spoken about. and i do think he's no spoken about because this is after all, the french leader. and as you said, this is one of the main highlights of. ready united states and at some point it feels like when, when you are a western leader and you align with the, with the, with the aspirations of the united states, you can almost done the wrong. yeah. let's not forget that media circus surrounding good off his visit to paris, where he was allowed to pitch a better intent outside the l as a palace. if we took a wider look at all of these various presidents of these so called democracies all around the world, they're getting done on corruption charges, right. it's the theme for all of these presidents, but yet nobody has been brought up on actual charges like war crimes, crimes against humanity, or anything real like that. not only of the presidents, but people in the administration's. i mean, look at george

w bush as people and the lead up to the iraq war. why is it always corruption? but nothing like killing millions of people, i mean, except for so, but on the los of which, but he was tried at the hague of course, but we don't have enough time to discuss his case. and i think that the focus is usually put in corruption because of the focus wherever put on on the war crimes on the, you know, legal invasions in the fours western countries to, to confront their own legacy, their own history, which uh, you know, what they have left behind and we're talking about the cypress. he is indicted on corruption charges. so i could see was one of the aspects of behavior in war. he was a bit of a surprise. was it 1st going through the start to bump? indeed. yeah. you know, you have up iraq, obama getting a nobel peace prize, and keep in mind that, uh a, i think drug more bones at any the president. he's also an architect. they give me

a war. uh they, they were in syria. so i think of it the focus usually falls on corruption because it's something that allows the western uh, so called democracies to circumvent the reality of what they have done across the world. because the moment that they have to confront that is the moment. but the car, the card on file is, you know, and don't forget that of the united states, for example, is not a signatory of a international criminal. uh, eh, the international court of justice. and you know, the same with israel, which is one of the biggest culprits of human rights abuses of war crimes in the, in, in modern history. so i think it's, it's about that, you know, as you said, these are wide cause are crimes. you know, these are a and then what is the sentence as in the end there is nothing the least. yes, i am very glad that you brought up. maybe nothing yahoo because he keeps flipping through the legal cracks as well. but again, that man would need

a whole episode to discuss as well. all right, as the bond patio editor of the cradle dot c o check out his work there. thank you so much for this. very enlightening and fun conversation. all right, that is going to do it for this episode of motors operandi the show that dig deep in the foreign policy and current affairs. i'm your host middleware chan. thank you for tuning in. we'll see you again next time to figure out the m. o. the dangerous embrace when joe biden bear hug benjamin netanyahu. stan brace, design is the agenda and all its deadly consequences. no matter how the american administration wants to parse as rules, and israel's war on gaza. united states is ultimately accountable for israel's

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