october and what's the high court will decide whether there was any credibility in the us, appealing against this decision to let trillion go my own site and say is, and i feel fine, you know, of us making this prediction is a tool and will be set free by suddenly type so because he in bobbies, hey, embodies the very resistance that we've been talking about in this program. it's a resistance, all the information of transparency, of, of a whole, moral purpose of resisting the forces of, uh, oppression, a julian himself. and his case exemplifies that. that's why what happens to him. this is so important to all of us,

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hello. i'm in know a chan you are tuned into modus operandi. the term banana republic has long been used by us mainstream media to describe the political instability in countries of the global cell, most commonly thrown in latin american countries for the many presidents having and thrown behind bars for corruption. well, could these chickens have come home to roost? as the world watches several cases brought against the us? 45th president, donald trump unfold before the cameras. today we'll take a look at the us drama, and the many cases of world leaders who go from president to present. all right, let's get into the m o. the

is the 1st in us history. a former poetess indicted on a myriad of charges ranging from corruption to some that are tantamount to fomenting a clue, or blocking the transfer of power. donald trump, now the face of this watershed moment ahead of the 2024 elections here in the us, where he is by many measures. not only the leading opposition candidate against incumbent joe biden, but the leader of the path to win. all these trials he's facing our spark and the conversation of a weaponized justice system against political foes. while this is the 1st for the wes, this is not the case around the world. so joining us to discuss the many people who have gone from their nation's highest office to

a miserable prison cell. it is ecuadorian journalist esteban cadell, he is the editor at the cradle. you can follow him on twitter or x. i still call at the former fall and him at esteban car locks c a r l o p. so as the month, as we watch these trials of donald trump unfold, historic for the us know form or post has ever been indicted on anything ever before. you being a journalist outside of the us and also an ecuadorian citizen. what goes through your mind? what do you think of what's happening here in the us? well, i think of seeing everything that is happening relating to trump. uh, the 1st thing that comes to my mind is that uh, it's a situation that has been a long time call me. and as you said, there is no former precedent that has actually been indicted or much less made to uh, you know, sent to prison for our crimes committed during their administration and uh which,

which trumping braces a lot of questions because what it, what it feels like it's uh, it reminds me of, uh, what booting said recently that uh these uh is uh, political persecution above me. oh, it always persecution about political on it. and uh its uh, he talked about the roth and as a very traditional system and i think uh, this is uh, very much the view outside because uh, outside of that you was with a not a general and see that the things the same way that uh people inside of the us see it. uh, we do not exist in that same bottle. so uh, the situation withdrawing with the coming elections with the with bindings on legal problems which are the attorney general's into us seem to be honestly this interested into looking into them. it feels like, like i said, like something that has been a long time calling because it also speaks to the, to the level of the patient that exists within the united states. that up,

according to some researches uh, is reached a point that is uh, essentially reversible, you know, between democrats and republicans and another thing that jumps in my mind that he's a dave, it's a part of the system. you know, and it's uh, it seems to exist uh to serve the same interest, you know, internally, maybe the republicans and the democrats may have a different system lar, some small. busy outside, when it comes to foreign policy, you know, it almost doesn't matter who is sitting in that in the white house because in the us foreign policy has for so many decades now being centered on, on war, on sending weapons on law fair on sanctions. and now, i don't know if, if the drums case is indeed a case of an offer, but they way that it's being deployed it's, that's going to be racing many questions. so far,

30 or 40 years now. the u. s. has often chided latin american countries for prosecuting its own leaders, us mainstream media likes to use terms like banana republic to describe some of these arrests of these presidents in central and south america. do you sense any, have park or sea, or perhaps even iron e, right? now given this historic moment for the us, there is definitely a high level of the bumper. see a given what is happening that you as an even before. and i have a lot of irony indeed. yes. because uh, this idea that, uh, nothing american countries are running a republic says um, it goes from a colonial his perspective, you know, and this idea that we kind of go over in ourselves that we need, you know, over 3 years now we need to, you know, to us we are told, essential in these calls from the, from the era. busy uh, when the spanish, the, for to be the french, the british, it took over these land and, you know,

do what they need to do with the indigenous population. and it's, if it remains, it may have to say might be or remain. so now we have a us precedent, essentially facing the situation that is um, in the scope, the base to what has happened before in the, in many like in american countries of both to be on. is it nothing america, the interventions or the, the yes, the us interventions they have bein and usually targeting people who represent the national these movements or you know, along political lines, leslie's movements, communist and socialism. and not so much when it comes to the right wing. so i would say that's mainly the, the biggest difference right now with what we see, what's happening with all the truck. all right, so let's get into a more specifics of presidents past and present in south america who has faced legal trouble. talk to us a little bit about lula da silva in brazil. he was president from 2003 to 2010,

but then he found himself in some legal trouble through what is now known as operation car wash. he was convicted on corruption charges, but then fried and clear to run again in brazil as most recent presidential election against incumbent jr. bull sonata, he emerged victorious and is currently the president of brazil again. but now both denado might face legal was he might end up in prison to what's going on with brazil, and this sort of ping pong match of political foes behind bars of what is currently happening in brazil is essentially the return of the rule of law of institution that lady, eh, because i think there are more power levels between what is happening to both so nato to add to what is happening to trump down. what happened to that because the was the big thing or filter of the,

of the use of the judicial system to persecute uh, a person for political gain political object. so what happened in brazil with the job the investigation was that of the united states department of justice. give me share these investigation. they initiated to i small prosecutor office in brussels of hardest right. city. and so, you know, and f b i agents were meeting constantly with uh, with this prosecutors that judging the case was meeting also was talking to prosecutors directing them on how to, to leave the case towards the worst of workers party who represent that a, a national project for the a project of national development, least i believe 36000000 people out of over the he essentially ended in new jersey . he is up in albany or, you know, he doesn't have, he has his flaws. but he's, he was the target of a campaign that sought to remove him from the ballad in 2018 and he was put in

prison. there is, of course, you know, some supreme court, they, uh, an old, old, old. yep. it is. which where uh, essentially what they are known as corps agree, bargain testimonies that were of pain eh, after many trials by the prosecutor about them in any event, by the prosecution to get that this, the money that they wanted. that's it, they're all political balls. i'm on all other types of manipulation. i think on the other hand, most are not oki, uh, he's under trial for uh, for corruption, for uh, a different cases. uh, i believe probably the one that has the most spoken about is that you keep in gifts that the, sorry, if i'm going to gave him to both scenario and he was also barred now from ronnie for also some field 2030 because in the lead up to the 2021 election he, i won't go into gathered. i don't know how many i really was about a dawson for him and boss others in

a room and essentially yelled at them about what he said it was gonna be brought committed against against him via the electronic voting system in brazil . so. busy he tried to manipulate the election result, the 9. this is where the similarities to the trunk situation come on, smart and work. so not always a is a mind that represents the computer. so you know what, whoever present that. she's the, essentially a neo nazi. he's a man of the bus will be leaving the rise of indigenous people. he's a man that believes that corporation should do as they please. i don't know if you remember of the ring he's any are and there were these giant forest fires indiana song and they were for a big part that were initiated by the practices of this corporations with both scenarios. you know, they actually allow them to go in to, to expel indigenous people from their own communities to raise the line, to, to burn down trees so that they could, uh, set up their operations. so it does look like the trash can in brasil, uh, it was

a case of law firm that extended our across nothing america, it extended to my own country and it was all the other brick a scandal. it ended with the persecution of left these meat or 5 go there with the ink cars the ration of his vice president autoglass who had spent 5 years in prison. and during now you know, jesus arrive 25 present massacres. he and also at the same time, in the, not a single other birds executive was ever prosecuted. so that shows you how did you, visual systems in or countries have been a kind of, uh, turn against a popular projects, a turn against political. and i guess political figures represent a in general represent uh, the same ideology coming up next. there's only one country in the western

hemisphere whose polls show that they are even less happy with their government. then americans find out who when we return with esther bond codio sit tight, m o will be right back the on the dangerous embrace when joe biden bear hug benjamin netanyahu. stan brace, design is the agenda and all its deadly consequences. no matter how the american administration wants to parse as rules, and israel's war on guys in the united states is ultimately accountable for israel's military campaign. on july, the 8th 1941 german troops entered the stone here from the south. soviets, soldiers and civilians full of the enemy courageously on the stony and soil go with

thousands of casualties found out that the us wants to. but we are giving you 50 killing it, that i'm not sure if our cuter, which vehicle even as the beauty we bought the what is pushing that during the years following the soviet victory, a large number of monuments loveless and burial sites were rented to on of those who had fallen in the wall at the vs. just another. however, recently many of them have either been demolished vandalized or completely neglected. we sold the of those who do their best to preserve once the left of the memory. so as to prevent, rewrite history and roommate consciousness profile for the labs. the

welcome back to the m o. m manila. chad. while it's no shocker to anyone that in most western democracies, most of the public is never too happy with who they elected to office. i don't know, maybe it's buyer's remorse. maybe it's something else. to. esteban claudio, the editor of the cradle, is back with us to guess try to unpack that. so how about peru, esteban not long ago, just before christmas of 2022, president federal castillo was carted off to jail, immediately ahead of an impeachment vote against him. what were the circumstances around custio's case, and where is he now? precision is it, cuz figure is a different case. i would say because castillo, essentially what happened he, he did what uh could we can see there as us. busy cool,

chevy. so um apartments. that's it, even though he didn't have the legal or the constitutional grounds to do with it. but he did it because he needed to achieve voc over inability because they us making progress on about a year in 5 months into his he's a government custody. you wasn't real teacher, he came essentially from nothing. she is a, it was 1st left his precedent. but he came to power with the issue. she couldn't a really go over. so when he just sold a man to where he attempted to be sold parliament, it was because for the past year and a half, she was not able to do anything. he couldn't even swear in his own ministers. because the far right groups in the program congress, but i'm not a visit and they wouldn't be launch the launch of 3 impeachment proceedings. i can just, i mean the time that she wasn't off is the one that came out from the moment you step been from the moment she wants to elections the one that came up. so eh, custody, you're also has a, the issue that uh, before he won,

she started to distance himself from the, from the region of last, you know, one point in time to any one who was the band event as well. and project with the band. because my daughter and then a few months later, she would not get to come once more. uh, in america we, we say uh, give you, you know, warm water like, or you want to play with every one, but you have absolutely no strength to do so. so you play to do play to this trend . so the other side will cost all of the media who have all the corporations and will have the backing up the united states. so nope, it all, they're being ruled by a president of the novel water, big 4 guys of 12 percent approval rating. the congress guys on 99 percent approval rating, i believe, and customary to these and 71 percent of programs he owes approval model out of it . so that tells you a lot of where, where she stands and she's. busy also be 9 investigated for the depths of about 6, the professors who died when custody you was putting bruce on. so because they are

still in prison, she's the reason to be saying that he's the victim of a plot that uh, you know, they try to do is booking someone. but uh, as far as we know, this is something that uh, submitted it to himself. and the interesting thing about the that it was finding that i, when i was researching is that, um, all the products. and i'm a product and elected president is that having elected him through since the mid eighties. i mean the arrested. so, you know, but those tells you how the corruption runs in the country. yeah, the peruvians are even less happy with their government. then americans are based on these polls. so these incidents with presidents, they're not isolated to latin america. it happened in france in 2021. but without much global van fair. certainly not much talk about it here in the us. france being america's oldest ally, saw the former president nicholas or cosy convicted and sentenced to prison for 3

years on corruption charges. they say he quote was influence peddling and violated professional secrecy. hm. that sounds familiar stateside 2 circles. he is now facing yet another trial. that's scheduled for 2025, around a ledge money received from the late libyan leader. and will mark adolphe star cosy, who's a lawyer that turned politician faces charges of corruption. again, criminal association, illegal campaign financing, and conspiracy, and misusing libyan public money. your thoughts are kazi, i think it's what's most interesting about it is why you said how little it was spoken about, you know, starting to see she is actually not a hasn't been arrest if she has been. uh, i think of the most of the pain. eh, he, um, he, he's got the, are we, we dog at the office. he's very chevy. uh,

when i was looking into it, you know, cut off the before nato started bomb being uh, maybe uh, about 2 days before and nato entered. she said in the television interview that he have you been wanting to. ready complain of, oh, sorry for cnn to, to wherever you close before you know, maybe it was, uh, was the when uh, ads deals with friends. eh, it'd be suited perry's under uh, surfaces government for the 1st time in 30 years. so it was, uh, you know, and like i said, it's very easily is a very interesting case that he's not spoken about. and i do think he's no spoken about because this is after all, a french leader. and as you said, this is one of the main highlights of the united states, and at some point just feels like when, when you are a western leader and you align with the, with the, with the aspirations of the united states, you can almost done the wrong yeah, let's not forget that media circus surrounding good off his visit to paris,

where he was allowed to pitch a better when tent outside the l as a palace. if we took a wider look at all of these various presidents of these so called democracies all around the world, they're getting done on corruption charges, right. it's the theme for all of these presidents, but yet nobody has been brought up on actual charges like war crimes, crimes against humanity, or anything real like that. not only of the presidents, but people in there are ministrations. i mean, look at george w bush's people and the lead up to the iraq war. why is it always corruption? but nothing like killing millions of people. i mean, except for slow, but on the low bitch, but he was tried at the hague of course, but we don't have enough time to discuss his case. and i think that the focus is usually put in corruption because the, the focus wherever puts on on the war crimes on the, you know, legal invasions in the 4th western countries to, to confront their own legacy,

their own history, which you know, what they have left behind and we're talking about the cypress. he is indicted on corruption charges. so i could see was one of the aspects of behavior in war. he was a bit of a surprise. was it 1st gone through the start of, of media? you know, you have up iraq, obama getting a nobel peace prize, and keep in mind that a, a, i think drug more bones at any, the president, he's also an architect. they give me a war. uh they, they were in syria. so i think of it the focus usually falls on corruption because it's something that allows the western uh, so called democracies to circumvent the reality of what they have done across the world. because the moment that they have to confront that is the moment. but the car, the cards on file is you know, and don't forget about the united states, for example. there's not a signatory of a international criminal. uh, eh,

they do national court of justice and you know, the same with israel, which is one of the biggest culprits of human rights abuses of war crimes in the, in modern history. so i think it's, it's about that, you know, as you said, these are wide cause are crimes, you know, these are a and then what is the sentence as in the end there is nothing the least. yes, i am very glad that you brought up. maybe nothing yahoo because he keeps flipping through the legal cracks as well. but again, that man would need a whole episode to discuss as well. all right. as the bond patio editor of the cradle dot c o check out his work there. thank you so much for this. very enlightening and fun conversation. all right, that is going to do it for this episode of motors operandi the show that dig deep in the foreign policy and current affairs. i'm your host middleware chan. thank you for tuning in. we'll see you again next time to figure out the m. o, the

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