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hello and welcome to cross poplar. all things are considered. i am peter lebow. the genocidal assault on gaza has made itself felt in a variety of ways in terms of geo politics, the united states and israel stand together virtually alone and isolated the complex. cuz also seen the rise of extreme censorship all across the western world . criticizing israel and sign is and has become essentially a criminal act, so called western values are now meaningless. the to discuss these issues and more, i'm joined by my guess. rein, mcgovern in raleigh. he is a former c. i a analyst in seattle. we have ramsey by route, he is a power spinning officer and journalist and in new york we crossed to line on the as a legal and media analyst or a gentleman cross type roles in effect,

that means you can jump into one and i always appreciated pilot start with ray and i'm in raleigh. we we have this phrase. it's often use. it's called the writing on the wall. and it comes from the book of david. and i would submit to all of you and our viewers that we see the writing on the wall. we see what is going on. no, it's up to you how you interpreted and react to it. but you will be just by what we all see on the wall on it. i don't want to go into high perfectly here. but if you don't want to see the writing on the wall, then you're lying to yourself, which is the ultimate sin, the right. you're lying to yourself or you're a completely delusional and thinking that the us is completely all powerful as it used to be. the king bosses are in the hebrew scriptures as got really worried about things. and there was high in the handwriting on the wall. i

had quite a interpreter, they got all his expertise that he's got all of their kind of and everything in a zip code. can you tell me what this means? only daniel could only so you're a travel, the king bosses your k numbers about the goal. so i think you're right and quoting that, what we have here is a book application both to ukraine. and now 2 guys as well. the head right is on the wall is the only problem is that in those days there were no nuclear weapons that you know, ramsey, 1st of all, thank you for getting up so early in the morning for us to abide. and he said he's an odd politician, that is, that's an understatement. he admits that there is excessive, indiscriminate bombing going on. these re lease or indiscriminately bombing causes . physic. ministration has admitted this, but it continues to fund it. so he has completed this is just as much of his war as

it is missing yahoo. and he has to own it because the history is going to judge him very, very badly. because the phrase jennifer genocide, joe doesn't come out of being there, ramsey. absolutely, i mean we of course, often link. so it's an american president's to, um, to southern confusion. so the wars, so we say this is a, this is bush is war. this is a, uh, obama is war, but to this is going to go down in history as by this war. and uh, in fact, the time conclusive. i think it's a lot more then complicit. yeah, it is directly involved in this work. it's remember that from the very, very 1st day, you will have the lots of emptiness making. secretary of state, heading to tel aviv sitting in the war council meeting. declaring that this is that as well, how to know and mobilizing international support in oral this was on behalf of

israel. so the americans were not trying to hide it. we don't really need to know much, what's going on based on various of those values. so we're telling us, not only this is bill more, that they did not want to want to stop when the entire international community continue to hold for an immediate humanitarian ceasefire. declaring enough, is it not by then and his still cause say no carry on. how much gonna win is will must emerge when i is more because he understood it likely the feet for his will be as it be a wash something in the middle east. so that's why you won't be continued to defend finance. so for the war until this day, well, no matter how this ends is regular as last that as last on so many different levels . and we will, i want to talk about the day after i find you quite odious. the data is real and

the americans are talking about the day after when they objectified palestinians. it'll again, let me go to you, jo, buying and said, you said many times to be sent recently that i am a scientist. now. i know americans are not very well educated this though they're better now than they've ever been before. and i'm very happy about that. but i know that's something that the is really political lead, wants to hear. i don't think americans necessarily understand what that means, but is, is ramsey's already pointed out, the global south knows exactly what it means. again, complicit libel. the words here are never ever said by accident i, we've talked very tired. i'm a lawyer by profession in words. mean something, statutes means something, the particular expression of something. i mean, also, if i could say something before, i forget, you know, you always hear people say you never take antibiotics successively because what

you're going to do is you're going to create antibiotic resistant. springs of new things you never thought were there. we have completely, i'm sophisticated, we have ruined the terms. zion is edie semitism, apartheid genocide, ethnic cleansing, c international law, the un, nobody knows anything. and one more thing i have been doing this, i have been a listen to this, a professional called talk to a person for 35 years and up till now. something happened number one was always think say whatever you want, but when you use the word is real in any so you better never be or, or, or, or verify or beer from the official narrative. that's number one. number 2, something happened, the something is different. now versus october the 7th years ago and we had the intifada one that divided 2 americans were like, all those, those crazy middle easterners look at the way they do what i'm telling you. they'll never be peace there any way. they'll figure it out. this change, i don't know what it is, the calculus of change. why does different social media?

who knows? but what i'm saying is america, in american politics or living in oblivion. if you watch fox news, you will swear you will say, what is the big deal. meanwhile, the rest of the world, i don't want to stay cloud schwab but, but the great reset is upon us. but this reset, this put it this way, this pendulum is going to come back like a wrecking ball. everything is changed now, whatever the narrative was 510 years ago, it's all over with. so get ready, embrace yourself. right? you martin government for a long time. you actually brief president's of the united states. so, you know, you were in the belly of the beast as it were. how do we get to this point? okay, because it always hasn't been this way. i mean, when, when joe buying right after october, 7th, flew to israel to give a bear hug to the most popular man in the history of the state of israel. i mean, did these people have any strategy? they have any idea how they look to the rest of the world. i don't think they do. i

don't think our president is fully accomplished mattress. as having been said, this has been going on for a very long time. in the eighty's for example, one year sort of the federal notes in the colonial session that was going into the west bank and elsewhere. it was clear, isabel, we had photos of it up that goes so and yet no word would touch it. no one, even those with the integrity like separate char, george schultz. they couldn't touch it. now, after the attack on iraq, general brent scowcroft to it had been national security advisor and want to go to a real estate post as head of the foreign intelligence board for younger bush. he showed something to the financial times and it was this ariel sharon

has our president mesmerized. he has a president wrapped around his little finger just as an one. this your yahoo is in the living room. what else can set you is i just turn that video camera off, but yeah, that's all that you have. okay. there it says, you know where it goes. my god, the so easily moved. a personnel deliver good support is it's, i'm sure and quote that you know now will it be the same? it has been up till now will sooner hits prevail or either sadder heads. i don't know if anyone ravel or except those people surrounding guys a right now, whether they will tolerate much more of this carnage much more of this genocide. and it is a text book case of genocide. yes. and this is the, the ultimate conclusion of design is something that's a bit, this is,

was so easily predictable. you know, ramsey um, obviously, uh, being in the media like like a line. oh, i talked to a lot of people and i talked to no graduate student friend. and um, you know, i mentioned, he said, yeah, it's a so complicated and it's just such a longstanding, complex. and i said, well, no, it's actually not longstanding and it can be solved. it's called the end of the occupation. and he said, what, occupation? this guy has a ph. d in history. this is what we're up against, ramsey. right now, you know, why is this the case? why is it so that will educate the americans are completely informed of what is happening in palestine at the moment. well, you know, i've traveled, you know, across the global south, many, many countries i've been to over 50 countries from africa to south america, so asian elsewhere. and yet the average person seems to be well educated. the highest on even general impressions are out of sight. are far greater than the

maximum knowledge that americans have, and that's where the american media comes in. i mean, these guys are going to go round the clock one before 7, yet somehow you will watch cnn watch fox. you're watching a m s a, b, c. and you kind of leave with the impression that you know a lot less then you began with the challenging to know this is why there's a major change that is happening later. no, that's the one that's already are. but yes, the major change that is happening is that you have so many alternative platforms been use voices in for the one source. and we are in one way or another using social is using american be just on the do we are, has 3 main stream media on how to start doing that one's more time to catch up with us now. and that's really the major change that has happened in this particular we're not, that's what else for. but again, it is no longer working is that is what was the problem again, that is actually being challenge. well, if it runs, if i can stay with you,

i mean the 1st of all, every one of my what my audience knowing my guess and now that is, i know so much about the conflict in palestine because of our guest ramsey. i read everything to the ever writes everything. let me comes out very often an anti war dot com, which is i'm very thankful for that. but, you know, one of the things it's very important to, to point out is that there is a change of consciousness, right? now, because it's really hot, right, it's, it's really sloppy now, or maybe i just began to notice, go ahead. it's does look sloppy now, but the theory that i read strongly in is that it's always been sloppy and just we just did not exist on the other side of the composition. whatever it is, what you just said, this is why we can be the bible. this is why we bomb the baptist hospital in ship up. this is why we do the things we do. will it know what is that to say your role and to expose you enter the set, the videos that you produce, pay,

what are the lines and what are the tools are will you can you're going to get to get away with slightly trying to determine some of the information, by the way i have to jump in here, we have to go to a hard break. and after that hard break, we'll continue our discussion on power slide stay with r t. the in 1492. this evening, christopher columbus rates to the bahamas and discover the new world for europe. the wealth of america and its fast territories cause the envy of the europeans, especially the spaniards and the portuguese. they sought, after taking over these lands. however, there lived indigenous peoples with

a high culture and their own nation has their barbaric colonization of america, which went down in history under the name of con deece. that lasted for more than 100 years seen. 1521 care design. cortez is done as useful. doors captured and destroyed the capital of the aztec empire. daniels practically massacring the local population. following them, francisco pizarro is gone. case the doors destroyed the inc and fire. as a result of spanish aggressive the ancient maya civilization collapse, suppressing the resistance of the indians. the invaders carried out mass executions . the horrendous genocide was aggravated by the diseases that the europeans had brought to america. the number of the indigenous population decreased 16 times from 25. so one and a half 1000000 people from keystone became one of the largest demographic disaster fees of mankind and remains an indelible bloody stain in the history of the

european colonial empires. welcome. that's across stuff. were all things are considered. i'm futile. bill, this is the home addition your mind you were discussing palestine the okay, let's go back to long island, new york. and i know, as you well know, i've been out of united states for a long time. and so maybe you can explain something that has happened since i left . apparently there's rapid anti semitism in the united states, which i, when i left, i wasn't aware that that was the case. so what happened of it's been a long time. i'm going to agree with that. but, you know, i turned on the news and it looks like, you know, they're,

they're in the countries been taken over by a named a baseless nazis. go ahead. well, it's funny you say that and the selective use of the term nazi, if you were to mention that, for example, in ukraine, if i were to talk about the as a battalion or the right sector. and i make this difference is one of these terms of art. and i don't know if you gentlemen have been following this absolute distraction. but as you know, in some of our ivy league schools, some of the presidents of the school have said that before we provide the blanket prohibition and again speech at a university, there has to be something in terms called context that we have other members of congress as a, are you saying that genocide is kind of like no, this isn't genocide, it's the use of the term genocide. so what's happening is, as, as, as i mentioned before, the word anti semitism and anti zionism and anti israel have become somehow amalgamated into this big globule of confusion. and because it's been you so much

like in our country, the word racism, everything is racism, sexism. it's another is a so in the meantime, you have this world right now and let me just say, just one say, the trick that people need to do what i've been studying communication and obfuscation, said post co vetted particular. russo full be a grumbling, but you name it, you stick to a particular narrative. and one of the things you say is simply this. this could be sam a handle very simply. once we get rid of an isolated from us, now stop right there. what does that even mean or we will do this so long as the palestinians do not like to much. so the question though is, how do we tell somebody home to a like, 1st of all, we say you have to have elections. that we say you have an election, but you can't elect these people. so what's happening most americans, i'm sorry to say, and this may, i may be the ultimate, a ugly american, but there seems to be this almost an infantile lism, this man and he in less than right, good or bad,

evil back. and that's it. don't complicate me, just tell me who's the bad guy because i've got to move on and i've got to watch sports or whatever it is. so when it comes to confusion, this is the epicenter of confusion, right? jump it. i think lionel is completely right, is, is zionism and anti semitism had been conflated by active congress together. and the worst thing is that even look good reporters and they're really all a home back before iraq, jonathan land they and warren straw. but with knight ridder, they got it right on weapons of mass destruction. land is working for writers. mobile is work better for the wash. the wall street journal. this spinning propaganda about the russian is losing 90 percent of the troops shooting the career. and i mean, you know, it was a good guys need to earn a living,

i guess. but i don't excuse that. certainly they can come with us and tell ultras. yeah. and there's a, there are a few heroes out there, but uh, you know, i, i want to, i want to, i don't want to be so pessimistic. and i'm so hardened by the fact that the people that are challenging this and it's causing a lot of turbulence here. but you know, ramsey, you know, one of the things we just want to make very clear to our viewers. there's a mouse, has to be destroyed. well, on the face of it, that can be debated, obviously. but it's, it's a code for ethnic cleansing and the mainstream media and the political lead are 100 percent behind. you know, we just want to get rid of them off. well, the only way you're going to do that is completely cleanse and commit a genocide against 2200000 people and it is in train. you know? oh, that's a lot possible. you're exactly know what's happening. everyone is happening. the boss has to be destroyed. indeed, is it code peter,

as we need to the code is why didn't have time, you know, emphasized, for example, from the very beginning until this day. how mass is isis? how much is a either, what's he mean by that is that there was only one way to deal with the terrorist devices in india, walker and syria. and that's to eradicate them to push them out. people, one buses, the car and, and elsewhere and just pushed out of the country somewhere. and that doesn't, we don't know. we don't care whether you go, he still was, if you could actually create that scenario, how much of those? so what does in god, what it's different from us, like it was, he is a national liberation movement. that's a great, we didn't define boundaries, they don't want to clearly fate. they don't want to do over other countries. they want, do they provide their own countries? and they called us typically make references to international law is unbelievable. how often, how much makes references to international law and how complete the absence,

the elements of law and international law firm is what people think of this course . this is dangerous because the american sport, so the french for some reason important. so along with the drum is the british and the everybody got excited about. the idea will be right with you to come up with the larger, meaningful dot is that we need to you as a good time us, everybody will support from us as a particular context of social contact. so therefore, we need to destroy the city of people in gauze athena simple. a don't a line. well, and that is, that's a message that is like is not being received in the, in america. you know what i'm saying is absolutely right line or is it, it's really quite interesting if you, if you watch international media, even state media around the world, there is very, very often references as the international law because that is what keeps countries protection when you grow up in america, in some degree in the u. k. um, we know that she was only convenient. we mentioned when it works for you other than

that, but we're right, we're virtuous people, so we're going to do what we're going to do. and it's very interesting is that people have resistance moments. it's one of the only tools that they have against the powerful is international law. and obviously, with your own eyes, you can watch the, it was about the video coming out of a guy. so he's like, that isn't there by the way, sion, the international law, international humanitarian. well, i don't know what is, well, you know, what's funny if, if, if you held up, if you gave the scenarios to students law students, international law, and you just cover to be said country a did the following or hold up an x ray, ahold of a lab result to do what is this pregnant, dead, broken leg. that's the way most people think of of law is if you do this, it is a, it is a violation. let me go back and i'm glad we brought up 911. i learned these wonderful images, for example, the better to find them there than here. oh them oh. and the smoking gun could be a could be a mushroom cloud cool them. and they also said there hasn't been

a $911.00 since $911.00. there hasn't been a world what. what does that mean? there hasn't been a world where jews is what we're doing. and what happens is when you're very good to semantics and you play this and you act like terrorism is identified, but like evil, evil, we're going to stop able to access of evil. and you use terrorism as to how much is a place or, or anybody's waste. and also one more thing, relative to the people, ask japan, what they thought about, you know, the no, le gay. and they wouldn't have a different version of the dropping of the atomic bombs versus us. we lot we apply . those are our troops, but we never can put ourselves in the position of somebody else because very luckily, the only be we've had on our soul now. soil rather not what is 911 and that is in no way enable us to really comment on what people around the world are, are feeling and existing every single day. we have been lucky by virtue of our

democracy, of our geography, which is another thing americans know nothing about is that where anything is? yeah, you know, right. i leave, i guess, really prime minister said the, you know, on october 7th, israel experience multiple 9 eleven's been okay, fine. that's basically why i was saying like maybe that's one of your interpretations, but i would record in any journalist worth their salt would say. so how many? 911, how does the people of god experience since that day? see they, they, there's this policy in the us are not people. it's not a place. it's just a problem. it's not on, you know, and if it is like someone else solve, it will, but we'll pay for it. there's so much power this when it comes to that, you know, and all to my life online, it was already mentioned. you know, you didn't have to tip toe around, know, speak truth is truthful, gives you justice. right? and i think that there are bright lights here, and that is the fact that they use in this country. they all have these, i phones,

me and i phones are the latest technology and they can cause revolutions. okay, think about the telegraph way back a century ago. the think about the tape recorder, where all of a was taping is sherman, that came from all a mental reps. and if that, what is revolution now we have the i phones, young people in our country are being affected by the photos by the videos coming out of out of gas i. now i think that there is a reason for a whole lot of those kids, they can't go on forever. and my only my only fear is that the surrounding countries around the palestine at nearly arab countries and also turkey and iran. how long can a whole back their own populations, many of whom are palestinians, how long could they escape it forever and not go and stop the carnage?

stop the jealous, i don't know. the answer to that rosy probably does what i'd like to hear his views on that. yeah, i'm seeing, you know, you know, we have to western tablets. anthony blinking is talking about with the day after and he's going to consult with next. you know about the day after, well, when i tell us, because we have given the chance to say this is what we want, that's never there. and maybe you have the of the occupation and then that can give breathing room and in variety, and discussion and new ones. but they will never be that if the company, if the occupation continues lots of a lot of policies, what's that mean is this kind of a piece sort of thinking about the middle east and about the world, in fact, what the work. so in, in the early ninety's would work in 2003 would work in gaza today. but it's not true at all. what will happen in the day after is going to be determined by the

people that goes on by the palestinian people themselves. as would be determined by the other nations that are why is it in sort of attitude with gauze? i mean people off with often and they showed what are the art nations how come they are not standing up for their brother in law's and the, as a is actually the all, if you don't what's happening in, in live in on what's happening you up. what's happening in the human and else where they are, there is a view, middle east identity that is being formulated. and this is going to hunt the american administration for a very long time. but it also involves uh, is, or would it be shaped by the fighting issues? yeah, yeah. by this that's past mr. over 4000000 people in bozza. and why did we think that is happening outside the school, the american control, and how does time or to our communities are a gentleman. i have to jump in here. we've run out of time. fascinating discussion . what i think my guess in raleigh, seattle, and in new york. and of course i want to thank our viewers for watching us here. ok

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