risk in 2024. and i'm serious because this time we're running against an election deny or in chief trumps not even hiding the ball anymore. he's telling us exactly what he wants to do. he's making no bones about a truck center. supporters see, this is nothing but a blatantly partisan moved to secure his re election is no wonder quicker, joe biden. the far left lunatics are desperate to stop us by any means necessary. they are willing to violate us constitutions at levels never seen before. in order to win this election job i, there's a threat to democracy. so threat from isn't just blowing. smoke widens on popularity, is rooted in some very serious problems that the country is facing, which is not really big thing. so why is the white house tanking in the polls? well, and you've got the us mexico border and the chaos happening. their 5500000 a legal crossing since vitamin took office, he didn't start the problem,

but he's not fixing it. we've got some of the highest rates of crossing and recorded history. and then there's the ballooning national debt. $31.00 trillion dollars, that's a 120 percent of the entire u. s. economy. the country is more or less bankrupt spot. we've got vide and coming up with more and more crazy scans to spend even more money. on top of all of that, you've got inflation. the dollar is worth less and less food prices and the cost of other necessities are rising. it hasn't been this bad since the days of jimmy carter. america's working families are getting wiped out, and donald trump's rhetoric has anything but cooled since leaving office is 20. 24 campaign is promising. pay back i am. your retribution is what he's been saying when speaking to his supporters. he's promising, sweeping action against those who oppose them. we blanche to you that we will route out the communist marches, fascist, and the radical left subset lived like vermin,

within the confines of our country. that lie and steal and cheat on the elections and will do anything possible. they'll do anything, whether legally or illegally to destroy america, and to destroy the american dream. he's assuring the public he will have matters like the economy easily resolved. when i'm back in the white house, i will immediately at least energy production slash regulations, like i did just 3 years ago. and repeal by the sack sides to get inflation down as fast as possible. and it will go quickly so that interest rates can get back under control. i built the greatest economy of the history of the world. in fact, i did it twice when you think about it. and now we will have to do it again. he says, the russia, ukraine conflict will be fixed as well. i will get the problem solved and i will get it solved in rapid order and it will take the no longer than one day. i know

exactly what to say to each i'm. i got along with very well with the efforts to prosecute donald trump and keep them off the ballot have certainly raised eyebrows internationally. united states, after all frequently criticize this country, is that engage in similar shenanigans during election season. russian president vladimir putin couldn't let this obvious hypocrisy. go on noticed. just to say it's a pc them. but regarding the persecution of the drum, it is good for russia because it shows older than this of the american political system, which cannot pretend to teach others democracy. what is happening with them is the politically motivated persecution of one's competitor. that's all it is. despite low approval numbers, the white house gives the impression that they believe they will win at the polls in november. meanwhile, donald trump is adamant that he is the legit winter of the 2020 elections and that he will win in 2024. despite the indictments in every thing else,

the 2024 election is gearing up to be a real circus. not just mainstream media, but also us here at our to you will be along for the ride taylor mauppin archie new york. well meantime, according to our exciting morris of the online show redacted american intelligence is reportedly planning a huge cyber attack in the united states in order to declare martial law and comes to the 2024 presidential election. it's not me saying this is the form of fox news, john lisk, peyton morris check out his show redacted it is online. the, [000:00:00;00]

the daniel ellsberg, probably the most famous and most highly revered national security was of lower and american history. died in june at the age of 90 to 4 months before his death, then sent an email to his friends, telling us that he had been diagnosed with pancreatic cancer. and that his doctors have given in 3 to 6 months to live. the e mail was up deep positive. dan said that he had had a good long and productive life and then he would spend his remaining days freaking out and fighting against nuclear weapons. that's exactly what he did with dignity and then zone terms. i'm john curiosity and this is the whistle blowers the . 2 2 2 2 2 2 in 1970, daniel ellsberg provided a great service to the american people, the importance of which cannot be overstated. he leaked something called the

pentagon papers. they were thousands and thousands of pages of classified analysis that he had prepared for the rand corporation proving that the white house and the defense department had been lying to the american people about the war in vietnam. the next administration and the johnson administration before it had been saying for years that the united states was winning the war in vietnam, that was simply not true. ellsberg discreetly made copies of the pentagon papers and sent them to trust a journalist at the new york times and the washington post. he also provided the documents to senator mike rebel, a democrat from the state of alaska, the times and the post published stories based on the pentagon papers and sen. brookville submitted the document into the congressional record automatically de classifying it. the nixon administration was outraged the f. b. i quickly identified ellsberg as the source of the leak, and he was arrested and charged with the espionage national security advisor, henry kissinger,

called him the most dangerous man in the world. his potential punishment for the espionage charges was 150 years in prison. but the nixon white house overplayed his hand. president nixon had ordered aids to break into ellsberg psychiatrist's office to steal his medical records and to link them to the press to discredit them. but they were caught and the operation backfired. in the end, a federal judge dropped all of the charges against ellsberg. it was then the daniel ellsberg became a lifelong activist. he was not the typical anti war crusader. he was a republican. he was a marine corps veteran, but his new mission in life was to work against war and especially against nuclear weapons and nuclear proliferation. we're going to speak with 2 of daniel ellsberg, personal friends, randy credit, go a long time comedian and social justice activist. the former director of the william m counselor fund for social justice and host of the radio show live on the

fly, which airs every friday afternoon in new york and armand county. he's a former, colorado county commissioner and executive director of a national youth sports charity. gentleman, welcome to the show. i'd like to begin by asking both of you how you met dan ellsberg for all of us who knew him. it was a memorable event. certainly, randy, i think you and dan went back pretty far. how did you meet? actually, we didn't seem like it because i met them. uh, i called them up, but i think about 3 years ago to do one of my shows on a joint assigned in his 2021, mid 2021. and we had a great conversation. he knew all the people that i. ready knew william counselor, for example, and we got his a lot of stories by phone. and then he did a show by himself for an hour and a half. and then then suing a couple years, he did it 9 times. and including the last time i spoke to him,

he put it on so he interviewed me and to that was like 4 or 5 weeks ago. and that was it. and so, you know, that's my history with daniel ellsberg. and on almost immediately after meeting, den ellsberg, you spent some real quality time with him. tell us about that. yeah, in march of i think it was march of 2015. i flew out to new york. there was a conference, the 72nd anniversary of the dropping of the on thomas and japan. and there were some, there was a survivor there. there were people from japan, dan was one of the keynote speakers and i flew out there because he was a here of mine. from when i was a young lad in 8th grade. and i wanted to meet him,

and i walked up to him after he had spoken induced myself to him. lied to him, said i was a blogger, and asked if i could interview. and then we went into a, a quiet room and i interviewed him and then we went to lunch. i asked him if he had any lunch plans. they said no, we went to lunch and then i'll get into this later. but i ended up spending 10 days with him at his house in may of 2015. help him with the book uh the doomed a machine that was just in its final drafts and interviewed them for 40 hours on how america has liked to go to war. randy, you're a close friend of julian assigned someone for whom den ellsberg had a great deal of respect. tell us about dance commitment to julian and about the relationship between the 2 of them. well i, i don't think all the people have been doing that assign shelf since the 2016 account down to freedom. and, and i,

i've had you on many times at john pilcher and craig murray and some of the others that are close to us on. but i gotta tell you, dan ellsberg those 9 times. each time he was different, each time he was poetic, each time you could see that commitment in the never spirit himself. when i said i'm going to be doing a show on his on she says i'm in. uh so uh that guy at age and he was like just in for him. he was in for daniel hale and for you and for a jeffrey sterling and so many other a whistle blowers and but that, that assigned case really got to him. and he spent so much time we had conversations. so once a week i call him on his phone and say, dad, else bird year, speak up. so i speak up and act and we have, we just loved the conversations. we a serious guy, a very serious guy. we did have a sense of humor,

and we have these like a lovely chat. but the assigned case, like i said, nobody was more zealous and fervent and eloquent. then daniel ellsberg on, i want to ask you about that quality time that you spent living with daniel ellsberg and with his family. this was during the period when dan was experiencing writer's block of all things in trying to complete his epic work on the history of nuclear weapons. tell us about that and about how he was able to break through and complete that book. well, a 1st i'd say just spending 10 days with dan and patricia in their home that um was a life changing for me. and i was uh, it was a week of my 56 birthday. and dan is a very, very present man. he, without questionnaires, may be, was,

may be one of the greatest intellects of, of our time a last of the mohicans. and we would sit in his office and studio in library with a 1000 books on or, and american history. and the 1st or 2nd day that i was there, and just in his presence and with all these books, i was just and, and he would, he can talk, you would ask a question and he could go on one time in our interview, i asked him a question and i think he went for almost 4 hours without getting up going the bathroom or drinking any water. he, he had a mind that was just there's no words to explain it. and he did this with a, as randy and said, with a great presence and a great kindness. and a great mindfulness for the person who was asking the questions. one of my favorite stories is i think on the 3rd or 4th night there patricia and dan are sitting there

. we're having dinner and patricia says to dance. so dan, how was that uh, working with r and and dances. i've never had anyone who could do it on does and i said, mom, dad and at the dinner table and we laughed and patricia turns to me and says, how do you do it? and i said, well, dan has at least 10 stories going simultaneously. any waves them together with a conclusion, a crate of ending he's a sort of, uh it's you just have to group this into a certain way and, and he would annotate the new york times as he was reading that and for breakfast i, i'd be sitting there and he'd be, he'd be taking notes, he had a photographic memory, he had the ability to constantly over his life time to be reviewing every thing that was coming out from freedom of information. and at one point i said to him,

how come no one is talking or writing about this? he said, because this information has only come out in the last 5 years. so what dan was able to do was give this oral history of how america has essentially liked to go to war over 50 years because he started out in this field with the ran institute when he graduated, harvard with a doctorate degree and followed all along the way and he made himself available to anyone you saw this and when people were remembering him how they met him in protests, if it was 30 years ago 20 years ago. and the time he gave them in order to make them feel like what they were doing was so important to our society. thank you. randy credit co and armand county for talking to us about your friend the great whistleblower daniel ellsberg. we're going to continue discussing the legacy of daniel ellsberg after

a short break and stick around to hear how he dedicated his final years to stopping the proliferation of nuclear weapons state to. 2 2 2 2 2 the look forward to talking to you all that technology should work for people. a robot must obey the orders given it by human beings, except we're so shorter is that conflict with the 1st law show your dentist and patient. we should be very careful about our personal intelligence, and the point obviously, is to trace a trust i rather than see it, the various shots, i mean with the artificial intelligence, we have somebody with the in the a robot must protect this phone. existence was on

the. 2 welcome back to the with the doors. i'm john 3 i cuz we're speaking with comedian and social justice activist, randy critical and was former colorado county commissioner and youth sports charity director armand coney. about their friends. the great whistleblower daniel ellsberg . gentleman, thanks again for being with us. randy. one of the things that dan devoted a great deal of energy on, especially in the last decade and a half of his life was the repeal of the espionage act. dan always believed that the espionage act was unconstitutionally broad. and vague, and he wanted many whistle blowers including chelsea manning and jeffrey sterling to appeal their convictions. when that didn't happen just 2 years ago, dan weeks more classified information and asked the justice department to arrest

him and to charge him with the espionage. but that didn't happen. tell us about that as well. you know, dan, of course, was very daring guy and he was dedicated to repeal of the espionage act which came in 1917, basically as a tool everybody knew and congress when they voted for that it had nothing to do with ferreting out the german spies and everything to do with repressing any descent of the entry into world war one. that's what it was all about and almost all but 9 people who were arrested and convicted under that espionage at all. but you're fucking, we're, we're non german, super 9 german sap were ranked. were rounded up over that period of time. and then of course it was used during the 1st red scare. uh, but uh, but dan knew all about it. it was, it was illegal, it was on an archaic law. it had no purpose. and he said that what it was being

used for it was, you know, it was like you official secrecy is act a secrecy atkin bread and that's what it had be. come, that's what it was, a tool of to do what the breast do and, and it would totally separate the 1st amendment. and he was obsessed with it. and i just wanted to say add on what arms are saying about nuclear war and is obsession with that. the last time i spoke to him last time i spoke to him, i just got back from don't ask him variable in my scale and he wanted to get a feel on what it was like there. because he was very pessimistic about the future . he thought that nuclear war was coming, and so he said, do me a favor. let's get off the phone. let's talk about assume, and that's what we talked about, what i was sharing from commanders in a don't ask about the use of a nuclear weapon. she said everything that you told me confirms what i believe. and so he did. that was a deduce,

a book out when we talked about that that goes what was it the tuesday and yeah. machine. yeah. so we talked about that, and that was that i think was one of the last shows i had him and scott reader on his book and dan, talking about nuclear war. so it was assigned to the 1st amendment espionage. jackie was obsessed with trying to get repealed and the, the possibility and probably. ready the of a nuclear holocaust holocaust. so dan was so passionate and, and it's in my keep just buried himself into everything that he did that he was committed to really did. and he was definitely of a racist reader and up to date on everything. and, and a very, a genteel and a visual and unselfish. i mean, really an incredible role model. the fact that he buried himself into these issues,

even at this late stage in his life, it reminds me of i of stone at age 80, going to greece chandler, establish suite ancient greek to write the above the trial o'clock. but takes on, i want to ask you about something that dan devoted his final years to that was the fight to stop the proliferation of nuclear weapons. he was passionate about this topic. tell us about that. i think this is what mixed in such a fascinating hero. of our time is that he never wavered in his commitment to bringing speaking truth to power. and he is, you were asking about his writer's block. i, you could say it that way, but dance intellect was one that no one could hold a candle to. so he was a perfectionist by my terms, and i said after reading the draft of the book, this is done. what do you need more of an order to do? and it took another couple more years to finish it,

but he always made himself available. obviously, as he got older, it became more difficult for him to travel around, but he would go to washington. you go to other places, he was always on there. when he passed away, all of the main stream media was trying to bring the story back to what happened in 1971 when he released the pentagon papers. but in fact, what it was trying to talk about was, where are we now, and what is the danger of how close we are to ending the world? and he says this in his book and to simplify it. it's not just one person in the us or a russia that has the ability to make the call and releasing a nuclear bomb. this is handled all the way down stream. and then if anyone makes a mistake, if anyone was to make a call in different countries, i believe it's 9 or 10 countries that have nuclear weapons that we could, we could be a just such a difficult time and

a game changer and an ending. and so he kept wanting to put this out and he kept understanding that the media wanted to do the story of what the highlight was. and this is how we started our relationship in terms of me asking them questions. he said, how do you understand all of this so, so well, i was always fascinated on how the newspapers wanted to cover the injunction on them rather than the contents of dependent gun paper. and i would implore every one this book is out of print, but the secret should be a book that is required reading in every high school in america. because it really gives you a dna about how, how an empire called the united states. it would make a plan in order to go into an illegal war. randy, what do you believe the legacy of daniel ellsberg will be?

j cable will grow and in stature. you know, for ever more i did. the fact is, the man was very dedicated to you. he was what the guy melville called uh, john brown. uh, you know, a bd, there's a receipt every so often in life. and he was one of those either so dedicated, willing to go to jail, who's willing to go to jail and $7170.00 to do what gets us. it was more important then to go to jail a then can not do what he did. so in any spot for all of his life, from that point on that to do the right thing and, and to support the, just to, to fight against the military adventure. and the people who were unjustly jailed uh, you know, and, and that's it. and he just, just one sent to it and never flinched. and it's so even all the way. and so he was

91 years old, $91.00 plus the guy never met the never, never subsided. his, you never saw subside, or the energy and dedication that go on foot out there. and so it's an expiration because he was so self listened, that it's inspiration if he can do it at that age. you know, because i know patricia the say wait a 2nd, i gotta show to do it today. i got 3 tomorrow. i, i much progress is going to kill me if i, you know, but he always, always wanted to get out there and get to work out a very wise person. and he disseminated that information. as i said, uh, you know, without hesitation and very selflessly was he dedicated to, to his slice work. so i think that dan ellsberg 50 or so now the world is still here. a n, n a b, n e. and what do you call just as a liberal, he's not in the, in the, in the east river like it was in the plant under the age, the charlton heston. we will, we will,

which we will. she will be bigger than ever. they'll look back at this man. if society grows in the right direction and on then was a major figure in my life and in yours, i want to believe that our children and their children will learn about him and about his bravery in school. do you think that will be the case? and i know because he was so advanced. i had 24th of july. so ago i was in california with my children who are now almost 19 and 17. and i called dan up and we went by his house for an hour and a half, and i had to prime them and explained to them what the vietnam moore was and the release of the pentagon papers. and that was of, for people like us who are dedicated to what is happening with our governments and

societies we take for granted that their gender, our children's generation, are barely getting an understanding of what has happened in our lifetime. what i would like them to be remembered for by those who have had a chance to look up to them. the anti war active is like myself and, and the others is that dan was a north star for us in so many different ways. one is i spoke to, i don't think there are many intellects like him who could retain the, the volume of information. we have to think of the, the arc of his work and what he was able to do and, and talk about and that he is as and randy said he was on wavering and it's a fight. he has shown us that speaking truth to power as the true ethics in life. you can only really think of a couple of heroes who would be willing to give up their life for the cause if it's

a now samantha, if it's a martin luther king. john, you're a hero of mine. if it wasn't for dan meeting, daniel ellsberg, i never meet you and we've become close friends. there's only a handful of people if it's julian assange. if it's edward snowden, that has taken on this cause to reveal the lives of our government. and so as people who are or understanding getting out of under this rock or pushing away the cloud and the misinformation and the gas lighting of our educational system of our think tanks or of our media stand will always be someone that someone should and could discover and that's what you will be known for as somebody who revealed that after world war 2 that america lied to go to war and kill millions of people and we did it again and again in the last 50 years. thank you. randy credit,

co and argument tony for joining us. and thank you to our viewers. as i said at the start of the show, it is impossible to overstate the importance of daniel ellsberg in national security was a blowing. i've called him the godfather of all whistle blowers, without dan ellsberg and his courage there would never have been an edward snowden, a chelsea man and a tom drake. or even a john curiosity. i'll be forever grateful to stand for his friendship, his guidance, and his sacrifice. my life was richer because dan ellsberg was in it. i'm john to reaku. thank you for watching the whistle blowers until next time. 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2

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