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few insects, the general, but 8 agencies, human rights lawyers and the people started golly, as for it against imperial was all his life. the oldest play, right. tv and film produce a historian, friend of the late john lennon and celebrated in the rolling stones. is street fighting many joins to be from london, its web tens of thousands on the streets to end the days or nation on bombing of gaza tag. thanks so much for coming back on the bus today. i know it was a week or so ago, but to tell me why you are celebrating the institutionally corrupt. i think there was a role in the recent report and excuse me, races famously, scotland yard today as a much for bes us. while i finish slow to every day that one has to say in public, that's fine gold. we have a police chief metropolitan police commissioner who refuses to accept extremely rash and its pre missed advice from the home secretary as well.
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uh, a bravo. uh and uh it's, it's fantastic, but the police have done this because they know a, they don't monitor often going anywhere near the send that to be the send that off events would be over and see it's impossible to stop because they're predicting nearly half a 1000000 people to be present today, we will get the comp, but it was a crazy attempt to stop it tonight. i'm very glad people are out on the streets. yeah, one of the front lockers fronts tried to ban the demonstrations and the united states, of course, has that constitution which guarantees the right to demonstrate. but i suppose when you'd mentioned these british politicians, it may not be no, no around the world. why is it that politicians, van politicians in west and europe learn politicians in the united states seem to echo what i asked professor, you learn pop a on last week, show the echo,
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the lack of compassion for the people of god. so what, why is this? when i picked him up as a berkeley, it's very clear to have for a very long time now and even more so after the iraq war, which was a disaster for them, decided to back the united states and every single thing. and sometimes they say it openly, we gone cold for those seeds fire unless we get the green light to do so from the united states. i, if, when the united states does that, we will, we will follow them. so they behave on the television screens and the media in general is people who don't care about anything. i mean, how can you remain inside that when you see 2 thousands and thousands of people being killed over the last few weeks. so can you and style my, the lea, a circle lead or a c o position?
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just as bad is the prime minister. and lots of labor to counsellors are resigning from the labor party in. busy so for instance, labor has lost its majority on the com. so because of selma's positions on gaza, it's one thing they had never felt that there wouldn't be another film resistance that it would take on the q a stature in the world. and that is really not to be seen is livingston, but the palestinians. and this they haven't guaranteed for they thought it was over mention you how going to the united nations and trying to map of the all to buy the west bank and gaza and saying this is bob of the map of his room. that's how arrogant this fall, right? the government to me is ready to go up and the united states refused to stop it. they went alone with this because the only power in the world who could stop is
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through, within a 24 hours as the united states. when they say we've gone be a lot and they've done it before for me. uh you, you recall in 1957 when is read 1st occupied casa preston dies in the hall, who is the president and asked them to get out. they've been there for 4 months. they approve eric aged. it needs present sanctions. within a few weeks, they are out of to casa. so there's a very dependent on the united states despite these resulting. and if they've been to them and white of say we need you get out quickly, they will do the low some that they wouldn't just mean if they didn't, they'd be threatened them that create a new crisis in is right. and then bring matching young. well, i them, how comes up by, in a, in question. i will ask you more about the u. s. s. i that how warship being sent
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to actually, rather than what happened in the 1950s, is there a real blow back to tension between the people versus the leads that run these countries in western europe? i know with vietnam, harold wilson didn't do what the united states wanted them to do as regards vietnam, which you of course opposed payments be in the sixty's today. i mean, the whole, the west of new york is on side firmly with washington's foreign policy. and yet the people seem completely out of step with the latest this codes. and these are opinion boats in brooklyn now for the last 4 weeks of jones 70 percent in favor of an immediate seats file, which is huge. so what is affecting is that democratic functioning in the western countries, the u. n. b u. k is being affected because hope they're saying to their own people is we're going to carry on doing this. the people say we with the girl consent
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from you for doing this, and this thing we don't get. so we'll see what happens with it'll be published in the election. so people will difficult, but it's noticeable now in every single european country, including france and germany, the band, the demonstrations, but got most of being forced to step back and let me new extend stations every re brooklyn has been amazing on this. and that's partially because we set up the stop the war coalition member. by this time some of the barricade campaign is being in action for a long, long time. and they could mobilize very falls, but not just in london, where they will be huge demos and all huge demos, but in the provincial capital, seeing in glasgow in manchester and god is elsewhere. large numbers of people have come up with 2 countries in your that are exceptional us spin and i'm and which of
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come up for immediate sign and a cabinet minister in spain has gold phone there to know to be arrested by the criminal colton. charged with the war, crimes of the arab was, of course we know is a disaster story as far as the religion. before we go onto magic, the global call, you have to say of the queen of georgia. she has spoken of very effective which again, salt is going on and goes on for months too. okay. but uh, given how much uh, we'll know about the propaganda model and our best wishes to know. i'm from ski, i understand he's not well at the moment of how is it this consciousness about what is happening in gaza? the palestine question itself has a, is there in western europe and the united states if the so called israel o b,
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which involves music events, celebrities were coming out from palestine. but that's going to stop some celebrities coming out for its influence on publishing, on literature on. as i said, music on film, how is it the public know what's wrong and what's right you as well. there are 2 reasons for this, in my opinion. and the existence of non western media, i would say i would just say rise between both on this front that you have known west and television stations, both in your up in the middle east. i'm in china. you know, the chinese boat cost as dukes which are showing different images. some that's very important. which is why wouldn't blink come recently when to cut the he also got the really does to control bring no, just the wrong the control. but they, they don't even want to do it and they don't to go to the years. so the jewel in
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the crown of these gulf states, whether they like it or not. so i just eat her as being important, demanding to americans to be an important alternative images coming in from the bathroom fields, which are very different from what has been shown by the b, b, c and i tv channels. and secondly, any of them. but i don't know the base something deeply on just about the creek limits of palestinians by these writings, the del side holocaust effect is wearing off the account to use that cynically as they did for many, many decades in the proof of baptism. these amazing demonstrations by young american jewish kids during broke by this time banners calling for a ceasefire, occupying grand central station, up to buying the lobbies of the house of representatives. that's very mostly so
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when their own people simple, they took for granted, like the young, jewish population of the united states are all crazy, sizeable chunk of them start operating like this. then there is reason for them to panic because it means you've gone. depends on this for me to my stronger because it doesn't stop the mainstream news channels, corporate news channels, no mainstream talking about isis. i'm comparing, i'm off to ices. i mean, do you think there are similarities between the u. k. u. s. west and your b. u. and how is this given there? i mean, the bombing of gaza rather than have us getting body rises. um the link so fee is done. crazy guy says, i mean in terms of our policy that we see the images and seemingly the hospitals being blown up and then to me blinking then the snack controlled, saying we've got to not have a cx 5. as i know what i mean the,
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the reason they don't want to see side because it means a function complication. when i mentioned y'all, when is government and the blaming of hamas. it's a big thing. genius, who i mean, you know, this is not enrolled and started on october, the 7th. this as a rule that has started many, many decades ago and october. the 7th is just one phase of the will liberation movements act according to their own, with their own strategy. those and solo dyer came with the palestinians, gone justified everything down that they don't need to box. they are, they're mounting and what we are demanding is a fat and just settlement in palestine. and that means really does mean that the set flows on to buy these ready government. we now know and go even creating met him, where the on the west bank has to be booted out. that's is
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the basis for assessment date the set plus back to your box off. uh uh is right. and otherwise, how can they ever get an independent state, which in any event the make them, you know, government diamonds, printers that says have no really interested in grunting at all. they sold that, hide it in the bag. and then october, the 2nd problem, which was a big strategic blow for them. don't underestimate that on the golf. say, no, we're good to know how much that there is. no, that is going on with these big demonstrations. very few people are saying how much is to blame, even though people attack the uh, the weights that don't with the uh, the boats and etc. but no one serious is saying they are the wants of this,
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except the, if the government still exists and bro, government media in the west because every one of those smart troops tire cali, i'll stop you. the more from the renowned writer whose latest book is winston churchill, his times his crimes. after this break, the the the release of come to the russian states. never as tight as i'm wondering the most on screen the best. most i'll send send up
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the keys 195 and speed. the one else calls question about this, even though we will then in the european union, the kremlin mission, the state on the rush to day and split ortiz food next. even our video agency, roughly all the band on youtube, the tv service, what did you say stephen twist, which is the welcome back to going underground. i'm still here with the new left reviews, tired, golly, start. we were talking about adult toby, the 7th and history,
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not beginning of october. this happened during the story and as well, you know, how important it is. that's the powerful often try. do we raise history? do you think the japanese own financial times recognize that when they compare the resistance movements about assuming resistance movement to the event, and then these resistance move? and i don't think whether they understood that the means actually one that for that is that why these riley's are not going in and then ground defensive as a so called military analysts on. so go mainstream media have been telling us for weeks. these really don't want to lose too many of the searches adoption. this is a way is being a big priority for is right. the number of people of jewish origin overdues they can keep in is right. and losing even $101.00 prime is to said decades that goes 10 to many. so when they say this is the was crisis since the
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holocaust, that's rough. expedite certainly is the worst crisis since 1948 and been met about when there was a resistance lead, largely and unfortunately they by arab monarchs and kings on the british control. and it didn't work. so the, that is the fact. so they try and cover for the losses, and for them to go in and try not to buy the whole of casa and estimate, lead cleanse, or genocide and the stadiums won't the least of broader conflicts. i think despite that talks with the united states, the secret or the radians would not be able to be possible. the artifact conflicts, because you know, it has been done not just during the and stooges, they are also a major political force in lebanon. so once you have the war being expanded by
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these relays, prove sending him that wrong me in taking godsa effectively. it won't stop there. and some of the most serious is really general serenity to aware of space. they won't say they have to say it off to 0, tie out, which is the way they do it. but um that's i think is a, is a why they're delaying this because, you know, i'm us. and is that lives in does i have been prepared for this? they didn't do this thinking you don't go way suddenly they are prepared for the long haul. well it's definitely center stage of game when it was thought to have been forgotten. we could jake sullivan. that's what security adviser claiming that piece of being brought to the middle east, a few weeks before ago with a 7. what are these us as well as ships aircraft carrier? i mean, also, israel was the united states, as eric, rav carrier recruiting secret documents. what is the eisenhower and the general for
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doing? and these images draining. what i mean, the function is to 8, so shopped across the, about the radians to say to the uranium. let's look here. we are. if the uranium state intervenes in any way, which by the way, i think is extremely unlikely, but we're here to defend is true. but also it's the same to his beloved way here. and if you know, go into this for trying help, the palestinians you have us to deal with was the americans of said this before. and one of the biggest assess that's actually was in the lab. and then i have some decades ago women in tie a marine bass and the country was blown up. so it's made the more careful so they can say this, they can destroy countries, but in a hand time fighting. and come on. those and marines on the ground,
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it's not at all show, old way. venmo has fuller, they can destroy them, and them from the mean get destroyed. many gun craze full thoughts of many cities in that way, but it will then make things difficult for those or line to the united states. i mean, on the one hand, the united states they've been crying very out the to try and get. so some of the saudi arabia and others that will reduce and see it recognizes, right? this is hold to that process. i mean, even in the matter of the increase that considering whether to maintain relations with his or of the south african, the so the sent to be invested of that good and lucky american countries, 3 or 4 have broken off relations. so it's not going well on that level. so they have to bet of that in mind because they've already the ukraine training. isolated
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them with the, the, as far as the so most concerned legal, india, which is very pro the united states, refused to back sanctions against russia as did most of africa and many of the country. so that showed the beat to bind between the old and press and colonial us . and the rest was, this thing will be even bigger because if they ask and they go, if they use american troops, don't bang come c c to basically a lot, because egypt is in a rage at the moment because of what's going on in reggie and even even the president by them have you ever heard of an egyptian president since egyptian independence and refusing to meet the sitting you as president? i think the reason for that is that they will objections from others. the jordanian king was very angry and he said he was the 1st to say,
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i don't want to sit down at the table with these people and then it became difficult for the others to say no, but we're happy to sit down with them. i know me the other day, a boss, this public president of the palestinian no authority was shaking hands with blink. i mean the shameless, the palestinian and authority. and that's the other side which we haven't discussed, i've shown is that the fracturing of the resistance of to the ultimate goal was huge blow for palestinian liberation. and despite the take requests from within his own rides, a bus refuses to go mean be a huge difference. and i'm, and i probably was the president of the piano and not to this old guy who was gets, you know, plump i'm blown, buys the money,
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get the balls and building their own homes and houses, ignoring the needs of the palestinians. collaborating, locking up and the stadiums. this showed the end to now. yeah, people can watch our interview. we had on a trial, we abbas has never, never come on. and of course is paid by the israelis a and the americans. but then on guerrilla warfare, i, they, they, they struck afghanistan, you've written about, i've gotten this done with war planes and still, guerrilla warfare beat the americans, can guerrilla warfare in palestine and in the region, beats biden's, the navy and air forces that are all being summons so i'm saying the largest dom, either in history though, in this region, can they be beaten? i think the largest armada is largely gathering to show people back home and these raised we're with you. don't worry,
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we will save got to. but since no one is actually, it's frustrating the system stuff is right. it's likely including stairs low. this notion that is right, unless i'm on to practice crazy. it's a new clean state. it's under to the teeth by the united states and the european union. there's no equality between them and the palestinians as old as a gentleman and file with the 6, not just on me in the work. so one of it was threatening to nobody. so this is effectively the sarah and fear tactics on the arabs. the, you know, we're here we back is really well, if you're here and you come out of your shapes and you go on the lad. yeah, they will be all sorts of wolf or icon predicted. i'm not in the, you know, confidence of the people, the 5 mean i don't deal with them,
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but this battle to be something like that. and you end up on this style where they had you. uh, they was good off the bones place and detonate displays from the roads, etc. which just did that goes guys from cvs, on the west side, operation enduring freedom. you remember that was cold and the same. what happened in the middle east, if they'd go in just like that because they assume to that of egypt to remain loyal to c, c. and c. c does as well. and the roof pression and he tripped or ready is advocates. highest levels, much much was then under the host name about a country. so, but that doesn't work, you know, numbers. so if you have a 1000000 people out on the streets, you begin to break up the police and you begin to break up the only because with so
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many millions. so they have relations there for people. they have relations or policeman, their relation who also chosen slowly those things freights. that's what happened in many places in ad julia in vietnam and the other liberation struggles. and that will help them in the middle east, if that's an escalation by the west. and just finally, really, i mean arguably you only have so that can power over there in britain because israel helped to manipulate your general elections using the phrase anti semitism. do you think one other aspect of this terrible, terrible tragic tragedy of guys is? would you semitism can no longer be weaponized in the same way to alter the results of general elections in western europe and even in the united states. yeah, i agree with that. i think that what happened to me
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was a systematic attempt by the bridge. the state and the bulk of the above increase a above party and the conservative some of the media to make sure all big jeremy kobus was removed as major today. but buffy? why? because of what's left said what's going on. my head colbin being the drugs the labor party is line would not have been what it is now and the use devotees semitism. so. busy the charges of anti semitism, and even at that time i said in public that jeremy made a huge mistake in accepting the h r c or whatever. it's called a as the ave to what constitutes anti semitism. and they didn't find to back up the time and challenge them. but they come to that now, bands of us, i mean, you know,
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people are defying storm a, in, in different parts of the country. and they know they can't use that. they instead of trying to get rid of others who they don't like, but using that particular challenge now becomes very difficult here. and in the united states for the jewish kids who marched, i've shown real coverage. and so as we speak for the jews, no, but i mean that's quite astonishing. so i think from that point of view, the southern guarantee movement road has been very positive in ending this. yeah. well, being denounced as mtc, my di golly, thank you. and that's over the show and condolences from the whole team here at going underground to those brief by the ongoing violence in the middle east. there will be more guys on monday's show until then. keep in touch my role as social media. if it's not sense it in your country and had to our channel going on around
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