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the, the i'm action or times here, welcome back to going underground broadcast to go around the world from the middle east, on the thomas, just as we all know, millions killed during the 1st world war. the irony of western powers refusing disabilities these 5 in palestine after the killing of a $10000.00 in the besieged cause and strip is clear. demonstrations are ongoing today all around the world against major nation leaders, funding this military and who continue to dismiss please from not just the un secretary general with agencies, human rights lawyers, and the people started golly as forward against imperial was all his life. no less to play right. tv and film produce the historian, friend of the late john lennon and celebrated in the rolling stones as street fighting many joins we from london, it's wet tens of thousands on the streets to end the nation. the nation on bombing
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off casa tag, thanks so much for coming back on the bus today. i know it was a week or so ago, but to tell me why you are celebrating the institutionally corrupt. i think there was a role in the recent report and it's usually races. famously, scotland yard today as a much for bes, is when i finish slow to every day that one has to same bump like the fine gold we have. a police chief metropolitan police commissioner who refuses to accept extremely rash and its pre missed advice from the home secretary as well. uh, a bravo. mm. uh and it's, it's fantastic. the police have done this because they know a, that all montrose and going anywhere near the send that to be the send that off events would be over and see it's impossible to stop because they're predicting
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nearly half a 1000000 people to be present. today we will get the comp, but it was a crazy attempt to stop it tonight. i'm very glad people are out on the streets. yeah, one of the front boxes fronts tried to bend the demonstration, vad, united states, of course, has that constitution which guarantees the right to demonstrate. but i suppose when you'd mentioned these british politicians, it may not be no, no around the world. why is it that politicians, van politicians in western europe, learn politicians in the united states? seem to echo what i asked professor eli and pop a on last week. show the echo the lack of compassion for the people of guys or what, why is this? or when i pick up a case of berkeley, it's very clear as for a very long time now, and even more so of to the rock wall, which was
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a disaster for them. decided to back to the united states and every single thing. and sometimes they say it openly, we gone old for those seeds, fire, unless me gets the green light to do so from the united states. i, if, when the united states does that, we will, we will follow them. so they behave on the television screens and, and the media in general is people who don't care about anything. i mean, how can you remain inside that when you see thompson's and thousands of people being killed over the last few weeks. so can you and storm of the lease circle lead or a single position just as bad is the prime minister. and lots of labor about to counsellors are resigning from the labor party in. busy so for instance, labor has lost its majority on the com. so because of selma's positions on gaza,
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it's one thing they had never felt that they wouldn't be another form of resistance that it will take on the q a stature in the world. and that is really not to be seen is livingston, but the palestinians. and this they haven't guaranteed for they thought it was over . mention you how going to the united nations. i'm trying a map of the all to buy the west bank and gaza and saying this is bob with the michael. please read. that's how arrogant this follow, right? the government to me is ready to go up and the united states refused to stop it. they went alone with this because the only power in the world who could stop is rose within a 24 hours as the united states when the same week on the line. and they've done it before. for me. yeah, you recall in 1957 when these read 1st occupied casa preston dies in the hall,
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who was the president and asked them to get out. they've been there for 4 months. they approve eric, i didn't need preston sanctions. within a few weeks, they were out row casa, so big a very dependent from the united states, despite these resulting and it's the pentagon and white of said we need you to get out quickly. they will do the most of that. they want me just mean if they didn't, they'd be printing them back from create a new crisis in is right. and then bring that in young. well, i them, how comes up by, in a, in a question. i will ask you more about the u. s. s. i that how warship being sent to actually, rather than what happened in the 1950s, is there a real blow back tension between the people versus the leads that run these countries in western europe? i know with vietnam, harold wilson didn't do what the united states wanted them to do as regards vietnam,
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which you of course, suppose they must be in the sixty's today. i mean, the whole, the west of new york is on side firmly with washington's foreign policy. and yet the people seem completely, i'll just step with that lead is a coach tree, and these are pinion boats in brooklyn. now for the last 4 weeks, have shown 70 percent in favor of an immediate cease fire, which is huge. so what is affecting is that democratic functioning in the western countries, b, u, n b, u k is being affected because what they're saying to their own people is we're going to carry on doing this. the people are saying we've with the girl consent from you for doing this, and this thing we don't get. so we'll see what happens with it'd be punished in the election. so people who left football, but it's noticeable now. i mean, every single european country, including france and germany, the band,
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the demonstrations, but got most of being forced to step back and let me do extend stations every right . brooklyn has been amazing on business. and that's partially because we set up the stop the war coalition member by this time, southern guarantee campaign is being in action for a long, long time. and they could mobilize very falls look just in london, where they will be huge demos and all huge demos. but in the provincial capital, seeing in glasgow in manchester and god is elsewhere, large numbers of people have come up. the 2 countries in your that are exceptional span and ireland which have come up for immediate sanction. busy and a cabinet minister in spain has gold phone dates and you know, to be arrested by the criminal colton, charged with the war. crimes of the arab was, of course, we know is
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a disaster story as far as the religion. before we go onto the global call, you said you might have to say of the queen of georgia. she has spoken of very effective needs again. so it is going on and goes on for months too. okay. but uh, given how much uh, we'll know about the propaganda model. and our best wishes to know i'm from ski, i understand he's not well at the moment of how is it this conscious this about what is happening in gaza? the palestine question itself has a, is there in western europe and the united states if the so called israel low b, which involves music events, celebrities were coming out from palestine. but that's going to stop some celebrities coming out for its influence on publishing, on literature on. as i said, music on film, how is it the public know what's wrong and what's right here as well?
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there are 2 reasons for this, in my opinion. and the existence of non western media, i would say i would just say rise, breaking polk on this front, that you have known west television stations, both in europe in the middle east end of china. you know, the chinese boat cost as dukes which are showing different images. some that's very important. which is why wouldn't blink come recently when to cut the. he also got the really does to control bring no jersey or on the control. but they, they don't even want to do it and they don't to go to see your eyes. so the jewel in the crown of these gulf states when the, like, you don't know. so i'll just eat her as being in both the internet. it has to be named both alternative images coming in from the bathroom fields, which are very different from what has been shown by the b c and i tv channels. and
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secondly, even the young to know the base something deeply on just about the treatment of palestinians by these writings, the jew dale sighed, holocaust effect is wearing off. they've gone to use that sent to me as they did for many, many decades in the proof of baptism, these amazing demonstrations by young american jewish kids bearing pro, by this time banners, calling for a ceasefire, occupying grand central station off to buying the lobbies of the house of representatives, that's very mostly so when their own people's simple, they took for granted, like the young jewish population of the united states are all crazy, sizable chunk of stock operating like this. then there is reason for them to panic because it means you've gone depend on this for me to my stronger because it
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doesn't stop the mainstream news channels, corporate news channels, no mainstream talking about isis. i'm comparing, i'm off choices. i mean, do you think there are similarities between the u. k. u s. west and your b u of high says given there, i mean the bombing of gaza rather than have us getting body rises. um the length, so fee is done. crazy dye says, i mean in terms of our policy that we see the images and seemingly the hospitals being blown up and then to me blinking then the snack controlled, saying we've got to not have these 5. i know what i mean. the reason they don't want to see the side because it means a function confrontation with the imagine, you know, when is government and the blaming of how much, that's a big thing. genius who, i mean, you know, this is not a role that started on october. the 7th this as
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a role that has started many, many decades ago and october, the 7th is just one phase of the will liberation movements act according to their own with their own strategy. those. and so the daughter came with the palestinians, gone justified everything down and they don't need to lots they all their mom and what we are demanding is a fan just settlement at this time. and that means really does mean that the set flows on by these ready government. we now know and going to creating, met him, where the on the west bank it has to be booted out. that is the only basis for a certain amount date, the set plus back to your box off uh uh, is written otherwise. how can they ever get an independent state,
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which in any event the may make them, you know, government, diamond street assess of have no really interested in prompting a tool. they sold that, hide it in the back. and then october. the 2nd problem, which was a big strategic blow for them. don't underestimate it on the golf. say, no, we're good to know how most of the areas know that is going on with these big demonstrations . very few people are saying how much is to blame, even though people attack the uh, the way in which they dealt with the uh, the boats and etc. but no one serious is saying they either also accept the 13 government still exists and broke up into media in the west because every one of those smart troops tag how they all stop you. the more from the renowned writer whose latest book is winston churchill, his times his crimes. after this break, the
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lease of the russian states. never as one of the most sense community best. in most all sense and the same assistance must be the one else holes. question about this, even though we will then in the european union, the from the media mission, the state on russia's coding and switch the r t spoke neck. even our video agency, roughly all the band on youtube, the tenant services to the question,
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did you say steven twist, which is the welcome back to going underground? i'm still here with the new left reviews, tire. golly, sorry we were talking about adult toby, the 7th and history, not beginning of october, the 7th year, a story and as well, you know how important it is. that's of the powerful often try to raise history. do you think the japanese own financial times recognize that when they compare the resistance movements about assuming resistance we went to the vietnam, these resistance move. and i don't think whether they understood that the means actually one that for is that why these riley's are not going in and then ground defensive as a so called military analysts on. so cool, mainstream media have been telling us for weeks these really don't want to lose too
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many of this. so just action. this is a way is being a big priority for is right. the number of people of jewish origin overdues they can keep in is right and losing even 11 prime is to subjective. so goes 10 to many. so when they say this is the was crisis since the holocaust, that's rough. expedite certainly is the worst crisis since 1948 and been met about when there was a resistance lead, largely and unfortunately the state by arab monarchs and kings on the british control and it didn't work. so the that is the fact. so they try and cover for their losses, and for them to go in and try not to buy the whole of casa,
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and as slightly cleanse or genocide, the palestinians want to lease abroad to a conflict. i think despite that talks with the united states, the secret or the radians would not be able to be possible out effect conflicts. because you know, it has been done not just during the and stooges, they are also a major political force in live. and so once you have the war being expanded by these relays, prove sending him that wrong me in taking godsa effectively, it won't stop there. and some of the most serious is fairly general serenity to aware of space. they won't say they have to say it off to 0, try out, which is the way they do it. but um that's, i think is a, is a why they're doing this because, you know, i must and it said lies in because i have been prepared for this. they didn't do
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this thinking if it don't go way, suddenly they are prepared for the long haul. while it's definitely center stage of game when it was thought to have been forgotten, we could jake sullivan, national security adviser, claiming that piece of being brought to the middle east a few weeks before i grew up with the 7. what all these u. s. s. warships, aircraft carrier, i mean also israel was the united states, as eric, rav carrier recruiting, secret documents. what is the eisenhower in the general for doing these images draining? what i mean, the function is to 8, so shopped across the about to the radians to say, to the uranium look, here we are. if the uranium state intervenes in any way, which by the way, i think is extremely unlikely. but we're here to defend is true, but also it's the same to his beloved way here. and if you now go
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into this for trying to help the palestinians you have us to deal with. was the americans of said this before. and one of the biggest, as us, that's actually was in the lab and them as some decades ago, women in tie a marine bass and the country was blown up. so it's made the more careful. so they can say this, they can destroy countries. but in a hand time fighting and come on those and marines on the ground, it's not at all show, old way venmo has spelled, they can destroy them and them from the app you can get destroyed. many countries, all thoughts of many cities in that way. but it will then make things difficult for those or line to the united states. i mean, on the one hand, the united states a being crying very out the to try and get so solve the, solve the ready be a and others that will reduce and see it recognizes, right?
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this is hold to that process. i mean, even in the matter of the increase, they're considering whether to maintain relations with this or of the south africans. so the sent to the invested of that good and lucky american countries, 3 or 4 have broken off relations. so it's not going well on that level, so they have to bear that in mind cuz they've already the ukraine thing. isolated them with the the, as far as the south is concerned, legal, india, which is very pro the united states, refused to back sanctions against russia. as did most of africa and many of the country, so that, that showed to be defined between the old and present colonial pause. and the risk was, this thing will be even bigger because if they escalate. so if they use american troops, don't bank. com, c c to basically
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a lot because egypt is in a rage at the moment because of what's going on in reggie and even even the president by them have you ever heard of an egyptian president since egyptian independence refusing to meet the sitting you as president i think the reason for that is that the very will objections from others, the jordanian king was very angry and he said he was the 1st to say i don't want to sit down up to table with these people and then it became difficult for the others. to say no, but we're happy to sit down with them. i know me the other day, a boss this public president of the palestinian no authority was shaking hands with blink. i mean the shameless then the business to noon and authority. and that's the other side which we haven't discussed, i've shown is that the fracturing of the resistance of to the also goals. well,
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it's a huge blow for palestinian liberation. and despite the take requests from within his own rights, a boss refuses to go mean be a huge difference. and i'm, and i probably was the president of the yellow and not to this old guy who was, gets, you know, plump i'm blown, buys the money, get the boss, and building that around homes and houses, ignoring the needs of the palestinians. collaborating, locking up and the stadiums. this showed the end to now. yeah, people can watch our interview with the trial we abbas has never, never come on. and of course is paid by the israelis a and the americans. but then on guerrilla warfare, they, they, they struck afghanistan, you've written about, i've gotten this done with war planes and still,
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guerrilla warfare beat the americans, can guerrilla warfare in palestine and in the region, beats biden's, the navy and air forces literal being summoned. some say in the largest drama there in history though, in this region, can they be beaten? i think the largest armada is largely gathering, to show people back home and the strategies that we have with you don't to worry. we will safeguard to. but since no one is actually trusting the system stuff is right, it's likely info, at least is low. this notion that is right, unless i'm on to practice crazy. it's a new clean state. it's under 200 feet by the united states and the european union. there's no equality between them and the palestinians ad, so there's a dominant file with the 6, not just on me in the work. so one of that was threatening that nobody. so this
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is affective, be the terror and fear tactics on the ropes. the, you know, we're here, we back is really well, if you're here and you come out of your shapes and you go on the lad. yeah, that will be all sorts of warfare icon predict that i'm not in the, you know, confidence of the people, the 5 mean i don't deal with them, but there's bound to be something like that. and you end up on this style the way they had. you uh, they was good of the bombs placed in detonate displays from the roads, etc, which is the old guy from cvs on the best and side operation enduring freedom. you remember that was cold and the same wouldn't happen in the middle east if they'd go in just like that. because they as you and that
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egypt would remain loyal to c, c. and c, c does as well. and the repression in egypt already is at its highest levels, much, much was then under the host name about a country. so, but that doesn't work. you know, numbers count. so if you have a 1000000 people out of the streets, you begin to break up the police and you begin to break up the only because with so many millions. so they have relations there for people. they have relations or policeman, the relation of law. so justin slowly, those things freights. that's what happened in many places in that dreary a vehicle and the other liberation struggles on that was to help them in the middle east. if there's an escalation by the west. and just finally, really, i mean, arguably you only have so that can power over there in britain because israel
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helped to manipulate your general elections using the phrase anti semitism. do you think one other aspect of this terrible, terrible tragic tragedy in guys is with us? how much is and can no longer be weaponized in the same way to alter the results of general elections in western europe and even in the united states. yeah, i agree with that. i think that uh what happened to me was a systematic attempt by the bridge of state and the bulk of the above increased type of body and the conservative. i'm the media to make sure the whole big jeremy kobus was removed as nature of the labor party. why? because of what's left to say, well, what's going on? my head goldman being the drums, the labor party, it's line would not have been what it is now and the use devotees. semitism,
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so called challenges and fantasies, semitism, and even at that time i said in public that jeremy made a huge mistake in accepting the h r c or whatever. it's called a as the orbital what constitutes anti semitism. and they didn't find to back up the time and challenge them. but they come to that now bass of us. i mean, you know, people are defying storm a, in, in different parts of the country. and they know they can't use that. they instead of trying to get rid of others who they don't like, but using that particular charge now becomes very difficult here. and in the united states for the jewish kids who marched, i've shown real garbage. and so we speak for the jews, no bikes. i mean, that's quite astonishing. so i think from that point of view of the southern
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guarantee movement road as being very positive and ending this. yeah. well being denounced as mtc, my tag ali, thank you. and that's over the show and condolences from the whole team here at going underground to those brief by the ongoing violence in the middle east. there will be more guards on monday's show and you'll then keep in touch my role as social media. if it's not sense as in your country and had to our channel going on around tv on mobile, don't come to what's new and old episodes of going underground. see monday, the acceptance. and i'm going to plan with you whatever you do. do not watch my new
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