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of the mass demonstrations, it drops across the world and solely directly with the pilot stein ask for testers . demand that is ro and of violence on the eve of $100.00 days of war. and gallons of the, at least 135 people are killed. in the past 24, how is that? as the idea continues to fund concept with the south, designated a safe area, the main target also ahead we were focused on making sure that the complex ongoing. now guys are doesn't spread as a us store space and
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a 2nd day of american missiles green down on gammon testers in washington dc questionnaire. government motivation, 54 percent of our federal logic goes to the military and went to the station and sold and taiwan is running 40 winks the presidential election with 40 percent of a vote. they just asked the result, the ovens represents of mainstream opinion of the tie with those on the top floors . this our here on our team to national check out our website our see to come for the latest on the days of those days, big stories. i'd say show a josh probably back at the top of the hour with more complex is going on the ground, the
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much sooner time soon. welcome back to going underground broadcast to go around the world from the middle east on the thomas. just as we all know, millions killed during the 1st world war. the irony of west and power is refusing to support disease 5 in palestine after the killing of over $10000.00 in the besieged, gauze and strip is clear. demonstrations are ongoing today all around the world against nature, nation leaders, funding this military and who continued to dismiss please from not just the un secretary general with agencies, human rights lawyers and the people started golly as forward against imperial was all his life. no less to play, ride tv and film produce the historian, friend of the late john lennon and celebrated in the rolling stones as street fighting. many joins be from london, its web tens of thousands on the streets to end the nation nation on bombing of gaza. tag, thanks so much for coming back on the happy birthday. i know it was a week or so ago, but to tell me why you are celebrating the institutionally corrupt. i think there was a role in the recent report and it's usually races. famously,
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a scotland yard today as a much for peace, is when i finish slow to every day that one has to same public. that's fine gold. we have a police chief metropolitan police commissioner who refuses to accept extremely rash and its pre missed advice from the home secretary as well. uh a bravo. mm. uh and it's, it's fantastic. the police have done this because they know a, that all montrose and going anywhere near the send that to be the send that off events would be over and see it's impossible to stop because they're predicting nearly half a 1000000 people to be present. today we will get the comp, but it was a crazy attempt to stop it tonight. i'm very glad people are out on the streets.
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yeah, one of the front markers fronts tried to bend the demonstration, vad united states, of course, has that constitution which guarantees the right to demonstrate. but i suppose when you'd mentioned these british politicians, it may not be no, no around the world. why is it that politicians, van politicians in west and europe learn politicians in the united states seem to echo what i asked professor eli and pop a on last week. show the echo, the lack of compassion for the people of cause of what, why is this when i paint them the case of berkeley, it's very clear routine has for a very long time now and even more so after the iraq war, which was a disaster for them decided to back the united states and every single thing, and sometimes they say it openly. we got old for those seeds fire unless we get the green light to do so from the united states. i, if,
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when the united states does that, we will, we will follow them. so they behave on the television screens. and then the media in general is people who don't care about anything. i mean, how can you remain inside that when you see houses and thousands of people being killed over the last few weeks? so can you and storm of the lea, a circle lead or a c o position? just as bad is the prime minister. and lots of today by t counsellors are resigning from the labor party in oxford for instance, late, but has lost its majority on the com. so, because of selma's positions on casa, it's one thing they had never felt that there won't be another form resistance, that it will take on the q a stature in the world. and that is where they would not be seen is the victim. but
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the palestinians, and this they happened, guaranteed for they thought it was over, mentioned you how going to the united nations and trying to map of the all to buy the west bank and gaza and saying this is part of the map of his route. that's how arrogant this far right. the government to me is ready to go up and the united states refused to stop it. they went alone with this because the only power in the world who could stop is rose within a 24 hours as the united states. when the same week on the line and they've done it before, i've sent you recall in 1957. when these read 1st occupied casa preston dies in the hall, who was the president and asked them to get up. they've been there for, for. ready months, they're primavera didn't need fractions sanctions within a few weeks, they were out of to casa. so bear to vary depending on the united states,
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despite these rather they'll be and if they've been to them and wines of say, we need you get out quickly, they will do the low some that they want me to is mean, if they didn't, they'd be threatened them that create a new crisis and is right, and then bring back in young. well i, as in the outcomes up by, in a, in a question. i will ask you more about the, the u. s. s. eyes of how warship being sent to actually, rather than what happened in the 1950s, is there a real blow back tension between the people versus the leads that run these countries in western europe? i know with vietnam, harold wilson didn't do what the united states wanted them to do as regards vietnam, which you of course, opposed. famously in the sixty's today. i mean, the whole, the west of new york is on side firmly with washington's foreign policy. and yet the people seem completely out of step with their leaders,
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this coach tree and these opinion phones, i'm brooklyn now for the last 4 weeks have shown 70 percent in favor of an immediate cease fire, which is huge. so what is affecting is that democratic functioning in the western countries, b u, when the u. k. is being affected because what they're saying to their own people is we're going to carry on doing this. the people are saying we with the girl consent from you for doing this, and this thing we don't get. so we'll see what happens with it'd be published in the election. so people will have football. but it's noticeable now and every single european country, including france and germany, the band, the demonstrations, but got most of being forced to step back. and let me do extend stations every read . brooklyn has been amazing on business, and that's partially because we set up the stop the war coalition. the palestine
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southern america campaign is being in action for a long, long time. and they could mobilize very false, lo, justin loan to where they have been huge demos and a huge demos. but in berlin show capitals in, in glasgow in manchester and god is elsewhere. large numbers of people have come up with 2 countries in europe that are exceptional span and island which have come up for immediate sanction. busy and a cabinet minister in spain has gold phone than young to be arrested by the criminal colton. charged with will crimes of the arab was of course we know is a disaster story as far as the rules are, before we go on to the global call. you said you might have to say of the queen of georgia. she has spoken of very effective the again, sort is going on and goes,
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i am 4 months to okay, but uh, given how much uh, we'll know about the propaganda model on our best, which is a new one chomsky i understand he's not well at the moment of how is it this conscious this about what is happening in gaza? the palestine question itself has a, is there in western europe and the united states if the so called is a low b, which involves music events, the liberties were coming out from palestine, but that's it on the stuff. some celebrities coming over its influence on publishing, on literature on as i said, music on film, how is it the public know what's wrong and what's right here as well? there are 2 reasons for that, as in my opinion and the existence of non western media. i would say i would just say rise pretty important on this front that you
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have known west and television stations, both in europe in the middle east. i'm trying to, you know, the chinese boat cost as to which are showing different images. some that's very important. which is why wouldn't blue come recently when to cut the he also got the really does to control bring no jersey or on the control. but they, they don't even want to do it and they don't to go to the right as a sort of a jewel in the chrome of these gulf states, whether they like it or not. so i just eat her as being important to the main to americans to be named both alternative images coming in from the bathroom fields, which are very different from what has been shown by the b, b, c, united tv channels. and secondly, even the young know the base something deeply on just about the treatment of palestinians by the is really the deals side,
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holocaust effect is wearing off. they've gone to use that send that to me as they did for many, many decades. some of the profiles batches and these amazing demonstrations by young american, jewish kids during pro, by this time the banners calling for a ceasefire off coupon grandson cruz station up to buying the lobbies of the house of representatives. that's very moving. so when their own people simple, they took for granted, like the young jewish population of the united states are all fairly sizeable chunk . also start operating like this, then there is reason for them to panic because it means you've gone depend on this for me to my stronger because it doesn't stop the mainstream news channels, corporate news channels, no mainstream talking about isis and comparing. i'm off to ices. i mean, do you think there are similarities between the u. k. u. s. west and your
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b u. i is this given, they're all being the bombing of gaza rather than have us hing by devices. um the main, so fee is done crazy with isis. i mean, in terms of our technology that we see the images and seemingly the hospitals being blown up and then ends in a blink. and then the snack controlled saying we've got to not have these 5. i know what i mean the, the reason they don't want to see side because it means a function complication with the emission. yeah. when is government and the blaming of how much is a big thing? genius, who i mean, you know, this is not enrolled and started on october, the 7th. this as a role that has started many, many decades ago. and october. the 7th is just one phase of the will liberation, movements to act according to their own with their own strategy. those and
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solidarity with the palestinians gone justified everything down that they don't need to. lots they are, their mom and what we are demanding is a fan just settlement in palestine. and that means really does mean that beset gloves on to buy these ready government. we now know and going creating met him where the on the west bank has to be booted out. that is the only basis for a set to take the set plus back to your bought off. uh uh, is right. and otherwise, how can they ever get an independent state, which in any event the made them, you know, government, diamond street just as of have no really interested in grunting at all. they sold that, hide it in the back. and then october. the 2nd problem, which was
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a big strategic blow for them. don't underestimate it on the golf. say, no, we're good to know how much that there is. no, that is going on with these big demonstrations. very few people are saying how much is to blame, even though people attack the uh, the weights that don't with the uh, the boats and etc. but no one sir is saying they are the own subspace. accept the if the government still exists and pro government media in the west because every one of those smart troops tag, i'll stop you. the more from the renowned writer whose latest book is winston churchill, his times his crimes. after this break the public, are you still nonsense? he's got his new mice. a brother you are using the why. it's what i show in arguing
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somebody on the phone disposal. so in the front of mind that you said when you go in this tool disposal setting the step, it is of savings and you have some people to see those who managed to free continue the work of undermining russia. nobody needs team is opening offices in the us. that was so similar to the menu on the for me at 4 and the office for the other thing is that sam got the do got up as you'd say, alicia, throw on the shift board. so the democrats, you obviously deal example because i get the rest of that completely. got you the the welcome back to going underground. i'm still here with the new left reviews, tired calling start. we were talking about, i don't, toby,
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the 7th and history, not beginning of october. this happened during the story and as well, you know, how important it is that the powerful often drives you, we raise history. do you think the japanese own financial times recognize that when they compare the resistance movements about assuming resistance moving to the vet and then these resistance move. but i don't think whether they understood that the means actually one that for that is that why these riley's are not going in and then ground defensive as a circle of military analysts on. so go mainstream media have been telling us for weeks. these really don't want to lose too many of their searches. adoption, this is a way is being a big priority for is read the number of people of jewish origin overdues they can keep in is right. and losing even $101.00 prime is to subjective, so goes 10 to many. so when they say this is the was crisis since the holocaust,
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that's rough. expedite certainly is the worst crisis since 1948 and been neck about when that was a resistance lead, largely and unfortunately the state by arab monarchs and kings on the british control and it didn't work. so the that is the fact. so they try and cover for their losses, and for them to go in and try not to buy the whole of casa and estimate lead cleanse, or genocide of the stadiums want to lease a brand to a conflict. i think despite that talks with the united states, the secret of the uranium would not be able to be possible. the artifact conflicts because you know, has been done not just during the and stooges, they are also a major political force in live in them. so once you have the war being expended by
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these relays from sending him that wrong be in taking godsa effectively, it won't stop there. and some of the most serious is fairly general serenity to aware of space. they won't say it's, they have to say it off to 0, try out, which is the way they do it. but um that's, i think is a, is a why they're delaying this because you know how most and it's that lives in because i've been prepared for this. they didn't do this thinking you put on go away suddenly. they have for bed for the long hold. while it's definitely center stage of game when it was thought to have been forgotten, we could jake sullivan. that's what security adviser claiming that piece of being brought to the middle east, a few weeks before october, the 7th. what all these us as well, ships, aircraft carrier, i mean, also israel was the united states as zach rav carrier recording secret documents.
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what, what is the eisenhower and the general for doing? and these images draining. what i mean, the function is to 8, so shopped across the, about the radians to say to the uranium. let's look here. we are. if the uranium state intervenes in any way, which by the way, i think is extremely unlikely. but we're here to defend is right, but also it's the same to hezbollah. we're here. and if you now go into this for trying to help the palestinians, you have us to deal with what the matter comes of said this before. and one of the biggest assessed that's actually was in the lip and them some decades ago when an entire marine base in the concrete was blown up. so it's made the more careful so they can say this, they can destroy countries. but in a hand time fighting and commandos and marines on the ground,
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it's not at all show old way. venmo has fuller. i mean, they can do as far as having them from the, i mean, get destroyed. many countries, all thoughts of many cities in that way, but it will then make things difficult for those or line to the united states. i mean, on the one hand, the united states have been trying very out the to try and get so solve the, solve the ready be a and others that will reduce and see recognizes, right? this is hold to that process. i mean, even in the matter of the increase the considering whether to maintain relations with this or of the south african. so the sense the investment of back good and like in american countries, 3 or 4 have broken off relations. so it's not going well on that level. so they have to bands, as in mind because they've already the you print printing isolated them with the,
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the, as far as the so most concerned legal, india, which is very pro the united states, refused to back sanctions against russia as did most of africa. and many of the country so that, that should be defined between the old and press and colonial us. and the rest was this thing will be even bigger because if they ask and they go, if they use american troops, don't bank on c. c to basically a lot because egypt is in a rage at the moment because of what's going on in reggie gave an aid in the way of present and by them have you ever heard of an egyptian president since egyptian independence refusing to meet the fitting us president, i think the reason for that is that the very well objections from others, the jordanian king was very angry. and he said he was the 1st to say,
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i don't want to sit down up to table with these people. and then it became difficult for the others to say no, but we're happy to sit down with them. i know me the other day, a boss, this update president of the by the stand in no authority. it was shaking hands with blink. i mean, the shameless, the, the business to noon and authority. and that's the other side which we haven't discussed, i've shown is that the fracturing of the resistance of to the also goals. well, it's a huge blow for palestinian liberation. and despite the take requests from within his own rides, a bus refuses to go mean be a huge difference. and i'm, and i probably was the president of the yellow and not to this own guide was gets,
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you know, plump i'm blown, buys the money, get the balls and building our own homes and houses, ignoring the needs of the palestinians. collaborating locking up and the stadiums. this show the end to now. yeah, people can watch our interview with the trolley abbas has never, never come on. and of course is paid by the israelis a and the americans. but then, on guerrilla warfare, they, they, they struck afghanistan, you've written about as kind of as done with war planes and still, guerrilla warfare, ibp americans, cam guerrilla warfare in palestine. and in the region beats biden's, the navy and air forces literal being summoned some saying the largest dom, either in history though, in this region, can they be beaten? i think the largest armada is largely gathering, to show people back home and these realities that we're with. you don't worry,
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we will safe got you. but since no one is actually trusting the system stuff is right, it's likely including stairs low. this notion that is right, unless i'm on to practice crazy. it's a new clean state. it's up to the teeth by the united states and the european union, this low a quality between them and the palestinians. add to there's a gentleman and file with the 6, not just on me in the work. so one of it was threatening nobody a so this is affective, be a cetera in fear tactics on the ropes. the, you know, we're here we back is really well if you're here and you come out of your shapes and you go on the lab. yeah, they will be all sorts of wolf or icon predicted. i'm not in the, you know, confidence of the people, the 5 mean i don't deal with them,
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but this battle to be something like that. and you will end up on this style and where they had you. uh, they was good. all for bones, place them detonate displays from the roads, etc, which just did the goals guy from the on the best and side operation enduring freedom. you remember that was cold and the same. what happened in the middle east? it's a go in just like that because they as you, of that of egypt to remain loyal to c, c. and c, c does as well. and the repression in egypt already is at its highest levels. much, much was then under the host name about a country. so, but that doesn't work. you know, numbers count. so if you have a 1000000 people up in the streets,
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you begin to break up the police and you begin to break up the only because with so many millions. so they have relations there for people. they have relations or policeman, their relation of law. so joe's and slowly those things freights. that's what happened in many places in ad julia in vietnam and the other liberation struggles. and that will help them in the middle east. if there's an escalation, by the way, i'm just finally really, i mean, arguably you only have so that can power over there in britain because israel helps to manipulate your general elections using the phrase anti semitism. do you think one other aspect of this terrible, terrible tragic tragedy in guys is that you savages and can no longer be weaponized in the same way to alter the results of general elections in western europe and even in the united states. yeah,
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i agree with that. i think that uh what happened was a systematic attempt by the brigand state and the bulk of the above increased type of body and the conservative. i'm the media to make sure all big jeremy call been removed as nature today. but boxy, why? because of what's left to say, what's going on? my head goldman be need room for the labor party. it's line would not have been what it is now and the use devotees semitism. so. busy the charges of anti semitism, and even at that time i said in public that jeremy made a huge mistake in accepting the h r c or whatever it's gold uh as the opposite to what constitutes anti semitism. and they didn't find to back up the time and challenge them,
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but they come to that now that's of us. i mean, you know, people that define storm a in, in different parts of the country. and they know they can't use that. the state of trying to get rid of others who's a room like but using that particular charge now becomes very difficult here. and in the united states for the jewish kids who must have shown real coverage. and so we speak for the jews. no, but i mean that's quite astonishing. so i think from that point of view of the southern guarantee, moving road as being very positive in ending this well being denounced as mtc might tie. thank you or, and that's it for the show and condolences from the whole team here at going underground to those brief by the ongoing violence in the middle east. there will be more guards on monday's show until then. keep in touch, my role, that social media, if it's not senses in your country and had to our chattel going on,
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grand tv on mobile, don't come to what's new and old episodes of going underground. see monday, the there's no end in sight over how you're going to continue to destroy the earth. is the case of the med, most of the people i've tried to go to the gym, but i'm certainly not ready to fight russia. this is also of soon, this is the 3rd world lunacy re washington. as for so the funder line likes to say, we have the tools while we just start with stability and business deal. so what should be living on that we have very close propaganda. you know, a price here in new york, i think we don't know the aftermath any time that you're not allowed to ask questions, you should ask all of the questions. the more questions.

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