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closely as x rays. they blinked, ends of a recent trip say shuttle diplomacy is like the trying to do in the, in the middle east, private de escalate. but why speak? cited states? me okay. attacking. yep. and if they're looking for de escalation, when he's explained to me in simple words, because i'm a simple person, go ahead, george. well, i wish i could explain, but as you say, it is, uh, the uh, the boss was of the binding administration other because of nato in general. they can say you're doing one thing and you're doing exactly the opposite. so the email and he goes in there and says, well, i'm trying to de escalate, and that's what the admiral copy of the white house spokesman say yes, you know what? everything we're doing in e. m. m is in order to de escalate. when one would we're seeing is what was obvious really from the beginning, wants to buy and the ministration completely. where did it so to israel in the,

in what is the gaza? that it is escalating the conflict that was all this of this was going to happen. and it is now launched to these attacks really without any kind of uh, justification in, in international law. i mean, there's no un security council resolution. no state has come along and said, hey, can you organize a policy for us and go in and do some bombing for us as a model that has happened. and so they've just launching attacks without the slightest prospect of the it's a big savings success. hence, they're only just the vacation as well. it was very discriminative, it was very proportionate and very, it's all gets it. and there's nothing to worry about. the way it's, it's a new market. it's very interesting is that how government comes back on the scene . but for those of us been watching this has been front and center and regional politics for a very long time. and if you think you can scale the who with these with buckling,

i mean you have to be left out of the room. i mean, they have been bombed with american bombs, using cetera, it gets for many, many years. and you get and fortunately, unfortunately, depending how you want to look at of the, the very tenuous to 1000 to choose that the hope the side with saudi arabia, even the saudis, worried about that because i got the width, there is well, so the united states is stoking something were to go into a direction of like, i always say, the law of unintended consequences. yeah, we've, we've been for a number of years now. we've been watching the saudi ration from the the, who t's in what is some more or less the wisdom bits of human and trust icing them and pretending that we don't ready whenever you are very happy about how they've been indiscriminately to hit people of winning policies and those are risk images we saw for years and years and years. they got a piece to about a year ago. so this puts saudi arabian already or the position now because how these, that light to the west. but i think there's a, there's

a huge amount of miscalculation which has happened the last few days. and i've been wanting, i've been, i've been saying this on your show for the last few weeks now. the miscalculation with duties is the, i'm not here. this was a lot in press coverage. um this is a warning. so given who did a warning, you know, and who does this looking at this thinking? you're going to be kidding. it says that we've, we've, we've probably the power is, comes on the planet. we've really been literally, you know, reduced to rubble. we've got nothing left and the worst people in the world. you can, 5 people are going to lose. and, and that's really the less than, that's not been hated by the west. so, you know, so can the, okay, less than this to off poodle all for a bite. and this been making these statements. you know, it was in ukraine just a few days ago, but just talking about, you know, the, we need to, we'd send a message to the who to use. well, the messages were ready for it all you up for it. you know, because this is going to talk about what the, what these message is to the united states. and it's

a pretend coalition is that what they end up with these are doing what they're doing in the red sea and solidarity with the, the genocide, a more being that you know, waged in gaza. so if they stop, there's a cold there, there is a cease fire been who diesel react accordingly, but that's never part of the story is it is accurate and, and types of shapes the immediate coverage. well, all of the focus is on what the, uh, the quote is, oh, the timeframe with international commas. the freedom of navigation is in danger. um, i mean, i won't just forget stuff. uh well, um, how many times has the united states boarded rain in ships? the seas condo with the is, this is a regular thing. they with you, right? is that who is this is a violation of law sanctions. well, who can use a sanctions that have no basis in international law?

israel as on a regular basis bound iranian time. cuz there's another color, you know, there's a part is that isn't the threat to freedom of navigation. well charge i, i, i talked to you so often i can actually preempt your thoughts here. so i get a little bit of homework in advance here. i bought george brought up freedom of trade. well, let's take a look here. i did the research the past 9 years while she didn't realize it maintain the blockade of human impeding trade. the us substantially was big strain with north korea, co cuba. this way, what russia, china, syria, again as they're in a row. what about the beating train with them finish up george? yeah, no, that's right for you to go. so you k, which still holds onto venezuela's gold. and uh, you know, the u. k, which your mother again sees, then it ready new tank. i kept it into bro to because it was filing,

essentially providing oil specific actions. they got it wrong. if you're ready to run, what was the sanction or guys most area provide or getting oil, but you know, so they didn't even understand that of totally the whole idea that the world trade is in danger. and therefore we have to the bomb is absolutely nonsensical. and you're actually right in, in what, what you say there's a simple solution. and if you, if you stop with a ceasefire, then we'll have to assume that the uh, the who does campaign against the shipping hit it for israel olive as well. we'll stop. but that's, that's the solution that's off the table right away to, well, me started out with talking about the got to de escalate. even have to escalate that. but i need to get my head around that one, but maybe maybe it'll come to me eventually. but this is sending an indication that the united states is willing, with its junior partner, as usual, a be kind of

a head mcmann of, of, of foreign policy on the world stage. i hope our viewers get the reference. but this is just pursuing israel's foreign policy objectives. i don't see what the strategic interest of the family united states are. it's a, it's a short term solution because the big thing cuz of the way they are thinking is that we need a destruction away from the genocide because it's getting way too much press coverage. and what better way to do it then to have some strategic strikes. i hate that phrase. it's going to come up again. so teasing strikes against these, this rac, todd, you know, kind of, literally, they haven't been very strategic and they haven't been pretty precise. that's according to the new york times this morning, even though haven't killed, they haven't killed anybody. and that's the point that i find these haven't feel anyone in this? no, i think this district, the strikes haven't killed anybody i according to by to do, says they have on we will see in a few days it might could of few people. but he's, he's thinking of it when, when you have this abysmal disrespect for international law going on a gun. so it's only natural that the,

the powers of the world will take as long as you've got to have all the, you know, examples on some of disrespect of international law. and that's what we're seeing that we're seeing kind of, it was repeating the on yet every time you employer off, you know, you see something else which, which is you can compare to it. but i think this is the thinking from u. k. and america, is this a small scale? this is very strategic. this could be something manageable and the mistakes and then make the huge mistake. and i mentioned this in the law. so is the key word here is relationships, you know, will blink come and bite and i'll kind of king lincoln's going full. just back was a full list of television. he must have written the palm of the me one of the just lives that would it be easy as good as everyone. but lincoln, apparently um, by doing this is probably more talking about this in the 2nd part of the program that he might have to share a jail cell with somebody from the appliance and made some telephone calls recently to this new yahoo apparently, according to the washington post pleading with him to not make this war escalate

further between israel and his book. so this is what we're trying to avoid. and the idea that we can have a sort of a bite sized conflict in the red seat with the who teach. because they noticed a powerful that one of the poorest countries in the world, you know, and then not a proxy. ok, right? how we should make this distinction then allies of a run, but another field proxy. and this is where the mistake lies. the arrangements will not take this line down. that will be response. my money would go on a measured response. in other words, the readings are very cool headed. people are very smart people, they might not respond this week. it might take several months. they may, will decide. let's let the americans do this a bit more. so that when we come back and we do find the hit, american soldiers and the rec, for example, without munitions there, perhaps they'll be some sympathy in the west to some understanding of the west end that this is a response. i wouldn't, i wouldn't be too surprised they did that from april and my almost just when biden's election to re election campaign kicks off. and so that might be

a result of one of the responses. the other thing that they might, it rings might be thinking about is a strategic strike themselves. and then there's role in loving them so many times now in the last few speeches that i've watched to deliver and by root has mentioned that the new generation roku is the has know sometimes they as a 100000 of them. but they're, they, the precision of these rock is, is pretty scary and he's often mentioned power stations, and ministry installations that he could hit. in other words, we can do strategic strikes as well, with what we don't. so by many is raise, but we put power out for thousands of people or we, you know, create a new to incident and which generates a massive amount of media to just around the world, increased debates. and you're in level, i think it's the strategic strikes might be something that we should watch out for on the right side, or whether you know that it's a rapid rate. lowering a ton of, you know, george hits is actually in this conversation around keeps getting mentioned here. i think that's really what it's all about here. i mean, you know, a hezbollah,

you know, sponsored by around the who, the spots, you know, but again, it is, martin puts it out. i mean, they, they, they have moral support, all kinds of support, maybe diplomatic support. but i mean, this kind of support, bit, been around can afford, has the law and, and the who these is not comparable with the united states. that is with israel. but it's a way, i mean, again, you know, for, for a make for western public school thing is, well, you know, what do you use? well, what are you talking about? read? oh, i read that always. that's the bottom. they want to push george. yes, exactly. and i know without a question, there are many, many people in washington who are itching to have a war with iraq. levy say they, you know, they, lately, they haven't quite got bad war with russia off the ground. you know, they were busy with that for the past couple of years, or maybe we can get one of the grown up with a wrong year. we have obviously the, hey, they isn't far from saying that lindsey graham is a brothers and the assumption the underlying motiv. this is of course that,

well iran was bowl about that will be the grown ups in the room. so we can do what we like when we can rely on, you know, russia, china, is that his ball a iran, you know, they will be accident restraint way. well, they may, well, they may not. all right, hold that, thought george, we have to go to a quick break. and after that quick break, we'll continue our discussion on somebody on the state of the cartridge, the, [000:00:00;00]

the take a fresh look around. there's a life kaleidoscopic, isn't just a shifted reality distortion, by how us to do vision with no real opinions. fixtures designed to simplify will confuse who really wants a better wills, and is it just as a chosen for you? fractured images presented is fine. can you see through their illusion going underground? can the welcome back to possible ours and peter the about you mind you were discussing, so we'll minutes. ok, let's go back to martin merrick s. obviously one of the biggest news out there

right now is the young genocide case against israel sponsored by south africa. and it's actually quite fascinating and it's for me, it's almost kind of a turning point of paradigm shift the merits of the south african case for a non lawyer. and i think it was written very well for non lawyers to understand that was part of it. okay, very, very comprehensive, very um, in the silver in its presentation, in written form and then oral arguments. these really response well as well. they're just sarah, good stuff. i'm us, they are allies from us. i mean, they had it in the south africans presented a breed, but it's legal and comprehensible with these really is made their brave political. okay. if you disagree with as you are, you work with that you, you're a terrorist, you work with a mouse and all of that, it's

a very bad look and it's not an argument mark. and these ladies lent very heavily on this idea of self defense. but it doesn't work and it's nationalism for you. ok, buying a part of your own country in this case um does it so it doesn't, the argument's gonna hold up? i think this is going to be a test case for the code itself. i think this would be a make to make a break. you know, a lot of the skeptical, just let myself kind of look at it and think, is this going to be a ppo or exercise? is it going to be a way of the west taking a box and saying, well, you know, we, we took these rails to the quote, you know, but they cut off on a fine detail. oh, oh, we do punish them. but how do we go about punishing them? you know, how do we, how does it, how does that happen? i've got a feeling of good already boxing and deep down that it is going to get focused somehow along the way. you know that we're not going to get, you know, the, the lucid and uncompromising outcome that we hope for which is to make a precedent against israel and say, look, you're breaking international. know this is

a genocide. let's go to stop. i know those people involve like missing yahoo and all those of generals of going to be pulled into the course, you know, like like noon, but trial say to the best way we should be going with this now. but you know, it's, it's hard to say whether we will, this actually will lead in any one particular direction. i'm really, i, i mean, i'm not really sure it, you know, in a sense, george, i don't, i don't really convinced it really matter. okay. is because it is all okay, is already been made, it is the brought into a proper recognized venue. it is from a nation state in good standing. ok, a nation statement, south africa that know something about apartheid in. and colonial rule. they got a lot of, they scored a lot of points in the corner and i, i do not deny there's public relations all over the place. it's not denied that, but it's towards which the court itself is very politicized. these are

representatives of nation states and they're going to vote accordingly to politics . so i'm, i'm not sure it really matters at the end of the day. the 5 to israel is in the dock is enough for the world to turn around and say these last about the genocide convention were made because of the suffering of european jews in the 1940s. and now here you are. that is a very powerful message, george. so i agree that it is powerful and particularly because of its israel listen. the dog and the genocide convention was off for oil created precisely in response to what happened to the jews in the world war 2. and so if they're in the dog, let me that's a, that's a real come down from the days of 1948 when the united nations voted on it. however, the problem is that this notion of genocide has now been so polluted in the

end of the so many states have now banded this around and have gone to the international court of justice with that accusation. but it's law states residents . so, you know, we have of bosnia and herzegovina, they broke this genocide case against the so this, when we know that dragging them for years in the, in the, the, the quote uh, didn't say. so it'd be, i was guilty of the genocide in bosnia herzegovina. then we'll go, we have croatia, that sort of genocide, growth case against the so it'd be into and then go to genocide, case against probation. both will dismiss that eventually by the court. now they've got down with this bully genocide case against me and all that spend they both ukraine as, as the genocide case against russia and the going to be more, you know, there's gonna be a dentist like a scam. i told him that, but the fact that is real is in the dark, i think is very, very significant. and possibly in the 1st part of the week, we bought a program. we talked about the secretary of state anthony blinking. well, you know, he's in

a panic mode and it's obvious when he speaks in part of the as possible. he is a co conspirator in all of this the, all of the ones you mentioned, georgia are very important. they're germane. and they're testing international law . but now we have very recognizable powerful players being held to account and i think that is significant. what do you think um are yeah, i think link to this part. okay. you can see it now. i mean, he, he, there is, does palatable sense of nervousness and how he speaks because he's starting to join up with adults and he's starting to think this could go very, very badly for the, by the ministration in the show longer to, you know, if some i think perhaps your point of view about it being enough to the cases, the thing that may will be actually the basis for it to be focused finally is the people will, will shrugged his shoulders and say, look, we got to the quote,

that's not the bad martin is it that the court, it doesn't it, at the end of the day it doesn't seek justice, it's still a political oregon. so i think that be the global public opinion will be satisfied . there's a process of, at least the process was started and they went through it, but the outcome it will be a political candidate. so that's why i say it's kind of good enough, but i won't be happy with the outcome if it's politically to terminates. nato countries versus the rest of the world. then it's a joke. yeah, they won't be very, very codes especially for oh, so as i said exactly where i want to go. yeah, the gold, you know, i know i need around the world, but it's really late as a next it or is generation of is ready? lead is my will realize that, well we've, we've created precedent now, you know, where by israel, the 3rd country where this quote was created to protect it originally from the magic footage and the follicles. now israel can be an adult and can be an

individual, it's kind of be held accountable. so it may well spock a new level, accountability, a new level of governance. but in a short time, in the short time we've, we've got a world war 3, breaking out a we've been talking about this for weeks now. another company, you know, i wonder what we'll be talking about in 7 days time next week because you know, the way things are looking now we're hitting the hood phase, and iran now is looking at the map of the region and the sea and the herring town of as america is, america is going public biden's going very, very open. i think it's probably a foolish mistakes make military speaking, but he's actually declared when old is witnesses, all he doesn't at any cost, wants a war with hezbollah. that may well be so fact of the range we looked at now to how do we split that? how do we track this up one notch so that we all now the ones who are escalating to de escalate? i think this, the foot of the boot is going to be put on the other foot and it could help them very, very quickly. well, we could very well be talking about this next week and the weeks afterwards, but george,

one more point and it's already been slightly mentioned here. and i think it's really important is that, you know, a lot of these ideas about international law. i mean, even kind of big the political job and legal charges that we have about human rights and international humanitarian law is stem from, from the west because of the, for the world wars of the, of the last century. talking about the ideas of genocide or the the word genocide is actually a relatively new word. but what i think is really interesting. georgia is if you have the global saw in bracing these ideas and putting the west in the dock. and i think the south african that's why it's still a part of the country like south africa is doing this because it is a country that is a, that was colonized and, and we come, we have the word of apartheid because of south africa. it's very interesting this paradigm shift with western ideas and the hope of western instead of western design

institutions could actually work for the rest of the world. even though the west itself won't of honor the, the spirit and letter of those institutions and id id is as well as soon as you can just think of the way to look at it. however, the powers control most of the institutions because the international criminal court, which, you know, most of the world signed on to accept the great powers and the leading western policy. and i, the said, well, who has been targeted by the i c. c. countries of the global south, the, all the states of the african. it's a, it's africans, middle easterners and always be their favorite hatred. the search. exactly. and then, and now they've done that they've, they've gone off to russia, but it goes on. but another great deal that they can do about that as,

and this is the part of the yes, the, the west has been promo, they did all of these doctrines. however, the idea of was the not going to be, apply it against us. we're gonna apply them against all is i'm going to show the world how virtue is we are and how we adhere to international law. but you know, you can't do it to us. and so the, you know, with, with blinking and by the, you know, they were writing high when the, the i c, c issue the arrest warrant against the present pull to as well, you know, hey, you know, international lawyers more. okay. um boeing. you know, when you bought now in the case of garza, that was already the americans and the germans have condemned south africa's suit. and of course, that would be outraged if you would you say that they couldn't damned it on its merits or because of politics process like it's not as much as politics because

they're undermining the institution that they actually created. that's my point much rapidly. plenty of time, go ahead and you know, i think the will be going to learn what we're going to see. so i think with this case, so even if it doesn't reach a final point, the final conclusion is that for the 1st time i think we're going to see a new generation, a new wave of countries around the world who will make a stand against israel. so israel, one way or the other, the end of all this is going to face a new position around the world and a new, a boy called, or sanctions, whatever you want to call them on a personal level and a corporate level on the country by country level so i think that's important point to, to take away we didn't mention your claim. so this finished up, but it's interesting developments which are going on at the same time. and you can do the same problem, same from the lack of governance. and uh, so tell spin bonuses and the rules based older, this lovely expression you know,

is always applied. it would be the primary purpose is marlin georgia. i think that i think this is a pretty good hope. i think i can go to the bank with it that we won't be hearing that term for married. very fresh change. goodness. all right, gentlemen, that's all the time when i think, my guess in budapest and america's and of course i want to thank our viewers for watching us. here are these the next time, remember process was the, there's many problems in us society now the facing because of the, their model is again, it's not able to fulfill the expectations of people guessing growth in, in, in, in homeless mass us and growth in poverty. this is a lot of traffic ations on the people who say so that they need to find a way to, to vote for, you know, solving their own problems and not trying to police the world.

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