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a good i see. you don't really supplement it at the same time. so you can just you, because you put this danielle that was put in the middle of the as hello, thanks to join us and archie, exclusive interviews. my guess today is professor, but you can me is a professor of political science, the full mouth far enough as administrative of federal, the public of nigeria professor can be. thank you very much for talking to us. that's the oddity the guy's mind. thank you for inviting that professor considering south africa's move to take israel to the international court of justice for the genocide. we've also seen both parties make the presentations at the international course addresses at the hague. what's easy or assessment if there's development.

i'm so proud of south africa versus i will say are the best times for south africa for africa, for the word. because south africa talk out east next. on a more route issue, my dba mondale will be give you some. so wherever he is now, that yes, this is the nation that i left behind. because when you story else, right, the history of these times this war in guys believes me, is probably the words that going to use to judge or love thoughts on south africa

will get a good mation. so i'm very proud of south africa, adaptive task lead. what i have on this car and i demand deadline a role in the water, south africa. i made that narrow definition of genocide. you know, it just such a narrow issue that is where i imagine for it's they do both the deal hold on based on the same brands do made and that present dition as to why watts is rose j fit the definition of a genocide on the other hand, when do is release came the why ruffling or low budget is not

talking about what the how much the on that but it domestic non roy's very claire varies no. just if it gets under rules to guided wolf, rice, fessler justification for genocide. none whatsoever. so that's not there, know how much do these, how much did that and so on. and they you now call month. so where we are doing this or we are going to do these to pre, to prevent genocide when the president, your prime minister, your defense mentioned the lens efficiency. now government, or fish as past said down record for say we why out

a homeless. and they certainly have a way, as far as quoting purposes, animals, yes, precisely. now, professor from south africa requested various provisional measures including the suspension of israel's miniature operation and gaza. i've given his israel's history or for ignoring resolutions, do you believe it will comply? if granted, especially considering potential consequences from powerful allies like the united states and the united kingdom. no, i don't expect. i don't expect a need will be due to the ruling of that costs. so on is there will be very good company. i've never heard of throughout the united states itself. part um disobeyed to get caught a bit to not do so been difficult. i can give you

a whole list of people who are disobeyed vehicle. so the service is going to have been good. dec company. uh, this'll be victim with our on, on me, terry. mean junction. all of course, as this is the weakness, this, the weakness of the international court of justice. the main judgment is now going to call on to come tell me yes, by which time the war is over. i that the palace now some of them wiped out or is there were lives going with the right g snapped in this to do on best way, estrada important that the, the i, c j mid. so i mean tarion rule name with them wings for faster service here, the sake of humanity. yes. yes, up professor academy, south africa is a state policies of the genocide convention. it mentions it's

a public ation to prevent genocide in its application to the i. c. j. a. why do you think south africa is pursuing this case? you did mention in your opening statement that your proud of the nation of south africa for sticking its neck out is why are they pursue with this case? this price potential backlash from israel's inferential allies, and that would probably be a state for them. i'm in the united states that it's measured less israel as condemned it as load. my bu, some of even described that south africa as the legal representations of most they was see are those this will during the day, what do you expect? fests africa has down's this is said brock policies i have said that varies a that soft profit cos ruled in the world

is a month deadline. session falls, what we ought to be doing and not to what we're doing for the whole world. don't forget vista, some who went to prison, the side that tries to do deals to get out of prison. so many times the feels very good, so it will stop by something past that that and they can go and i would say he was principal on the longer and longer on to find natalie. i'm in the the simply a touch to see fancy. so we got struck to one by 6 brick say on my have said to this, that's when the was watsonville. what aspects of south africa is this more outstanding?

the 5 more of standing that just looked extracted of the issue like that stuff that forgot scanning these every loads because in terms of national, not an interest that our friends probably got to know or is the to do on expect my to rare ward reward for that, that's, that will not be south africa, a man professor. let's talk about the united nations. i did see you mean on the internet. i describe the united nations as the united. nothing's referring to its inability to stop this master cousin garza, the united nations involvement and the creation of israel. it was involved in the creation of these or do you believe the organization is played a sufficient role in addressing the root causes of

a conflict such as the occupation and the suffering of the promising and people be careful of what you wish for? because what you get me come round to on to the night 240 a come. they shone on genocide. believe me, came into existence. be cause of what the mattress deed to the jews back. charlie, in fact i was listening to to, to the presentation 8 drawers. i drew a survivor of program. we visited the word genocide on now it to be used to hong v the these right in the nation. now the united nation assessor actually said you're in true, most responsible for the christian offices, right?

but vis. israel is not what the united nations created. and then besides on man, this aged on a fan, this if and this is in the is really thing cost. i've been getting mean, i expect that the nation is ready to be a shy new modem for the war of what the world war showed to be the thoughts that they will continue to remind. and there was also what progress didn't the site had been on. now and the site never get understood nearby

again. but then with what they mean now by nearby, again, a semi fit dr. net, the yahoo. yes. and they have a game. will they be? things are, this was the victims. they more inflict punishment . they wouldn't inflict in genocide they wouldn't st. paul, girl on know the people on, on people who cannot fight back. i know, i know you, i agree to say yeah, but how my mother side table by 7th period lose fact in background, su desk does desperation that discussion so. so those are saying that, i mean if a m k, they can go to and see if there was no profit vision. they wouldn't be a creation of that if they british with knots or precedent the iris that i really

would have not been traits at the bridges with no oppressive. the mama in k, i would love to great at. that's a my separation is a, is really aggressive the local patient quite quite if you're no resistance is so risky, reaction so oppression. yes. the sudden with a reaction dropped pressure approach still on the united nations. we still have our support lights on the u. n. considered the united states consistent use of it's v to, to protect each row in the united nations security council. do think that reform in the united nations security council, particularly eliminating vito power could make it more effective and impossible and addressing conflicts like this one we're witnessing in the middle of this? no, no, no, no, no, no, just let us take 2 steps back before the internet doesn't. it's just us created the

legal missions was created on be calls do united states. so it just think tress will not be put that the indigenous to join on the rank dryly, the golf initials on last video nights a new shows me to existence precisely because as the power of victor was there to protect the interests of this powers. now, at times more to you get may not be the best buy. so let's practice to car a few i, but least the did you unite this? this will walk out. i mean, all the simple parts i see. so it's a type of protective mechanism. yeah,

that's not professor given the significant number of positive and casualties equal strategic goals. do you believe israel is pursuing this disco? pushing into is use of force and containers bombardment of guys that i mean they must be something and, and go and what, what, what sorts of go. so you get this sort of high numbers of casualties. many of the civilians, women, and children. we all, we have would be making the mistake. we've all been focusing on guys. how about the west bank? actually before a mass absent is right outside of being in the event in the west bank in video or no, uh either the settlement, the, the model machine built to set domains enough that didn't mean going in this

is that had been platform the military action before a mazda event of victor, so that in terms of how much of a i b, isn't it the whole one store? wipe out all the palestinians, not, not just come out. oh, and the palace didn't ask in garza more to really wants to do is to drive them in to sign that as a does that. and then she creates new areas for is really set domains in gaza and gaza fast that. so there wants to do now, is there a perceived double standard in the way west and countries have responded to use rose actions in gaza compared to the bushes, miniature operations in ukraine? does israel seem to get

a different type of treatment on the false award to feels t o c o y, the poor girl that the nazis inflicted don't do is the costs of that. we told us a blank on blind eye on what the advice is trying to dos is like we've got to come pay, say the jews for watson this off. i know the last thing, the last thing i public for going the west was to be tied desantis. let me take a look to precedent off our medical you and invest this. i've lost that job on this matter. yes. what happens to be black? 5, but your 1st black president of 5, but this one,

this president of the universe defensive in there. i'm still sure of us be cause i'm jewish. don't know. said of the tool mid noon. that type place i will not donate on to this president goes and they had his way. oh yes. how do you say now we'll do this to is this so i let's read vast things later. i'll see on out. i mean, i brush president said i said, oh i stop watches, wrote a defy the i listed in the answering guys, i must be dealt with do use and they will remove in that often enough. yeah. so in light of the ongoing conflict, do you see any potential diplomatic interventions and the mediation efforts that

could escalate the tensions between israel and palestine? and is america the united states of america fed meeting to be if they were to intercede, it won't be able to go to know unfortunately this is the lecture a year, you'll know it on by didn't pass to be pro is right. if he wants to have that chance really about what top want to clubbing? jeremy cold is the semester. it was the tab dentist at mid day. believe me that my wasn't on to send me to. but it was that i knew was driven out of the ship or the book back to the after that used to be the jewish interest regardless of the political party with a conservative whole label, the democrats or republicans big, big, big,

the friends my food is still there every budget has said that tool state solution a fly xact is dissolution. but who is going to force his right side of that bathroom? as we begin to wind down on this interview, how would you assess the role of international public opinion and grassroots movements and influence and at the resolution of the policy and in is ready conflict? particularly given the rise of global activism and social media, we see protest with thousands of people on the streets of europe. and it seems some of these governments don't even listen even in america to their own people. yeah. because the question has got to be good. they both do the thoughts. we have the evidence now a,

i'm sure you're aware of it that they may judge of the young people went to the beach when beat that was voted on when that issue remain in the euro fan us it's yes. well then this stopped or is for gone. we know, no, nobody is going to will firewalls to the so decimal. and we will go out of the day off, and then the reality, the reality shift. so is the same to the reason that part of it just shows you know, who are very good grass truth and will be last session, don't pay accusation. so all these young demonstrate draws garage rules movements on is that when it comes to the time of watching it don't

show this way. now, considering as we speak, i mean, i'm sure, by the time we finish this interview more children that would have died in thousands of and most people would have been suffering from this event, effects of hunger and starvation not considering the, the normal human is having crises, a garza and the west bank will steps can be taken to ensure the delivery of aid and so pull to affected populations and how can the international community navigate to potential challenges and providing assistance because it's almost a life and death situation as the clock ticks did promise before the international court of justice, big and for use, right? data from a fat. so now there are gonna open up chance for a chance to go in. and i don't believe that. yeah, they will open up

a few. john notes trickles. let me save this for my men and women of the year. ah, the journalists, the ducks to us, the united nations, walk us through host to their or off today i liars, was from a list. why? why doubt they did? you have to see the last day i might people of the year on i hope i hope with that will be a draft. so you're know, wish you mind being south times is when you have the exact stuff like conveys that the funds you saw. and you said the best that eventually

honestly you have the concept or force that you are not expecting as drafting the most our faults, you know, so saying the best stuff was, most people have the best of your money to the funding, the profess. so i can be looking ahead. what do you see as the last is solutions? these are the published in, in conflict, and do you believe us to states solution is produced by the united nations in the 1967 resolution is still a viable possibility. your task is to be if you want to us top, the hum us resistance to deal with the piano is task to be is drew how story recognize, verify that the palace in those last 5 home

of their own may be the $67.00 room boundary. is no longer active available, maybe we will have to think of when they booked the 2 states. so there's just is this service and if not where it got from b k. yes, i'm not, we'll be sitting here. i'm talking about, oh my god, see what times just happened. it's been an absolute pleasure talking to you professor black jack in the thank you very much talking to us about the language here. thank you very much. the, the,

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the hello and welcome defrost of boulevard is here. we discussed the wheel in the, in the late 18 ninety's, french soldiers led by general to boot. i arrived in asia with the goal of expanding french control in west africa to the territory of more than shot. the most funny, i mean, he's stuck up some new shoes around the cars and dukes showing this to the food i on the east, one of the most terrific campaigns of atrocities to have ever taken place in the history of the continent or somebody. i know the bush image dental, and i'm philosophy followed there to do so. they put the lecture on multiple villages with devastated

a numerous members of resistance groups with the headed off for us to get the young investigator in search of his own identity and box on the journey. so africa, the traces general with a slug drenched roots in an effort to establish how your legacy still echoes throughout the confidence. so my name is penny, and i come from england and ask, i'm ready to find out more about the, the mission. hopefully. and the history in the region, the,

the, the, the a fee of support from all corners open kind of people around the world stand and sort of dodge with kind of simians off to the conflict in gaza pits the 100 day marks. even almost $24000.00 civilians that lack of saving the lock you into any lack of access of going to the team building and heavy leap. the money that i'm actually, as of all continues to rage and the death toll mouse, we hear from the red cross sides of both sides in the conflict. so let's go shake success brittany needs that humanitarian aid can reach the area. the south african