both these will be just a negligent bought. yeah, there miscalculating this equation. it can escalate and daddy, but the people up, we do not have a funeral economy's already struggling. and people think that anything that they have that the vanity and human rights should not be supported by the british government, especially when they're trying to support only usc, but no reason. all right, now the, the, the, the u. k. politician has said that it's all about money that the country could lose over, accomplish shipments through the red sea. what is your take on this? a less than 5 minutes? it will take you listen to this before you you respond. duties have been deliberately attacking that, pretending that it's something to do with a conservation of them, at least consumers in the u. k. will feel that and so we do have to take action. all right, so what, what does it assume that the u. k is taking action when it's financial interest where doable dies. did you say? because what this is all about? what's your take on this? i think it is just

a exaggeration of the situation. i don't think so. the, i mean, the one or 2 incidental effect, you know, the consumer or the economy of reject. it is just another excuse which british government is trying to use to manipulate the situation in their favor to do. we have to legalize that to give any d, the for the attack on the m, and he's not on the attack on the hook, the, the, to the tack on another farm and country. we do the long history of nato, which they are breaking the international laws by reading and attacking solve the entity, assume many countries and all data decking. not only what these data back into the government, that's why the other gods, but we cannot support the united states all you get. we have seen a long history of americans and brick days and data lies to creating excuses to attack on any country. whether it was cdo read that it was, you know, it all got on the spot. so many died. they have lost the limits by you

a dot adopting about the going to meet the nami, because the vision and making a futile batteries. the decks and other things, they have to be the list big that if they want to get they had had too many in the region. they are using fault excuses to get there. had you many, and this has many is not going to last longer than most people don't situation. all right. have me the time, almost freaky douglas tends to be a fab experts in the u. k. thank you so much for your insight. i feel like netflix themes are playing out in iceland, where of what kind of corruption has wrecked havoc on a small fishing town. for days from the side shows a river of fire slowly engulfing one of the ice lands oldest towns the stream of lava reached defenses. at the west side of just one month ago, following a different eruption. all 4000 brenda, vic residents, wherever to wait at the full,

the latest disaster, the will suddenly bring you updates of that side they on for all to, to accomplish where you can get all the details of the story as well. following this out, more updates and stories. i had the, the hello, i'm manila chan you are tuned into modus operandi. in the fall of 2023 story of east meets west. she's in pain, arrived in historic san francisco to streets that were unrecognizable to the locals, cleaned up for the asia pacific economic cooperation summit. better known as a peck, nearly 2 dozen pacific rim world leaders. we're in attendance,

but all lies were on the sheet and bite and meeting. and that is what we'll focus on today. all right, let's get into the m o, the in case you forgot. there's been an ongoing trade war between the us and china for the last 7 years or so that trade war has found the world's top 2 economies at loggerheads over everything from technology like while way to social media like tick tock, and even geo politics. like the conflicts in gaza and ukraine, but especially over the status of ty, one but a peck, 2023. the asia pacific economic cooperation is supposed to focus purely on money trade economics. and as the name implies, how to better cooperate with one another on these matters. these pacific rim

countries jointly control the over whelming majority of trade goods and services all around the world. so when 2 of the 21 key players aren't seeing, ida, i will the rest of the world lose sight of which way to navigate in the 21st century. joining us to discuss this complicated relationship between the us and china is anna, go. she is a jump political analyst and talk show host for c g t and radio. she's coming to us from beijing, china, and i thank you so much for joining the program today. uh 1st i'd like to hear your top line thoughts and overall read on the 2023 apex on it and how it was received by those in china. so far, i think the meeting has shown positive size, as i believe the main theme of the meeting was to seek a way forward for the spring ties. and the ottoman sphere was general was great in

general. the talks of the 2 presidents last 2 to 4 hours long. i think that indicates how engaging of their conversation was a coverage, a wide range of issues on china. us relations, including establishing an inner government to dialog on artificial intelligence, setup a working group on drugs to control cooperation, review high level communications between the 2 militaries and a grade to a further substantial increase in slice earlier in next year. that means to expand exchanges in education, use, uh, culture, sports and business. they also how to all around communication on addressing the policy in and is a real conflict. the print crisis, climate change and other global challenges. and more importantly, i think this is some, it serves as

a great opportunity to clarify both the china and the us, the stance on major differences or critical issues. for example, president and she elaborated on china's principles stands to regarding the time one question, he's that to mr. biden, the china well realize reunification. and this is a stop level and urging the us to take the real actions to honor his comment of not supporting taiwan independence. this is just long and a clear mass agent directly from the top leader of china and from mr. biden. on the other hand, again, he reaffirmed to the united states does not seek a new cold war and does not seek to change china. a system does not seek to revitalize east alliances against china and does not support highway independence and has no intention to have a conflict with china. but he also defended the u as

a so called in due pacific strategy and watts washington. believe that the freedom of navigation and over flight, as well as the practice of small circles, like all cuz etc. i think all of these indicate that although the 2 sides of do you have differences on some issues. but they have indeed demonstrated a common desire to even stations between the 2 countries. you know, to contend the further fostering of differences and to maximize the positive aspects of their relationship. so based on what has been released and also the following reactions of the 2 governments, the overall atmosphere is better than expected. just one thing i think worth of mentioning is the recent development that the 2 sides are working together to make climate a negotiation. so set up a success at cope $28.00,

i think which also cigna was a very positive approach to bilateral cooperation. you the near future a. so a pet, both 21 member states. but all eyes were really on china as president. she and his relationship with joe biden. how would you characterize that relationship, both prior to the summit, and did that dynamic change in any manner after the event, especially after bite and called president she, a dictator? when answering a question from the press to let me answer your question at the later part of the question. first, i don't want to comment extensively. mr. bite is temporary statements only in the video issue. because when, who does the blinking? it's a frowning suppression during the meeting, and we have also seen similar statements of from the presidents on other occasions . i think it's a challenging, at times to decipher his a true intention,

based on just a one single statement. and about the china us relations. we tend to divide, the space is based on significant events such as this summit. but my overall says that this summit is just a one outcome of a series of interactions and exchanges between the 2 sides is just a small part of a long process. and the complex dynamics of china us relations could of, i think, won't enter ago, substantial changes due to this just one summit. so i think the best capture rise they show for this critical bilateral relationship may indeed be complex. as you always be, given these extensive scope, it's difficult to determine whether a cooperation or confrontation previews in each phase as the different areas may yelled at different answers. but if we look back at history of china in the us,

how to reach experiences in dealing with each other. but the relationship indeed has had his ups and downs. but he has generally nintendo and overall positive a trajectory um, things of china's reform and opening up is development, has brought enormous benefits to china, us and the road. and according to our research from jp morgan, and he indicates that a chinese inc towards contributed to a nanny of reduction of approximately 40 basis points in the us in flu sion rates from 2000 to 2010. and i conic american brands like apple, microsoft of ford, boeing, citigroup, and many more are well known in china. and every year, hundreds of thousands of chinese students go to the us for education. and a, we know before facing suppression from the us hallway,

the chinese company you provided convincing and cost a fish, a cost effective, not a work services to many regents in the us, especially in pre mode and relatively backward areas where the user base was small. but unfortunately, due to the band, some areas he had a had to dismantle hallway agreements or replace it, and a significantly increasing in her notes prices. what i want to express here is china standards. he has not changed and will not change because of this one summit . so i believe the central clustering in the current interactions between china and the us is how the us views china and how he intends to engage with china is the type is the us genuinely willing to collaborate with china on global challenges such as climate change, peace and security and to develop a cooperation, etc,

or is china still seeing as are viable to be aggressively attacked or suppressed? so i think the ball was and a few is in us court. so let's wait on to see after this, the summit. yeah, to your point on how the us views china, i mean over the last few years under both trump and bite. and we have seen u. s. foreign policy. take a decisively aggressive stance toward china despite all these different attempts at following the the i c relations after that, trump error trade war began and we saw biden host, i see on leaders here in washington, d. c. in may of 2022. we per bluster coming out of a lot of agencies in regard to taiwan. even then speaker of the house, nancy pelosi taking a trip to taipei against the wishes of champagne. we even heard us military officials speaking of plans for war against beijing, and then followed by the expansion of

u. s. military bases in the philippines. then you add the us recently reopening its embassy over in the solomon islands, vice president commer harris, hosting the prime minister of mongolia in summer of 2023, where they signed on board to the us led open skies treaty. that's just a name. a few moves, i mean, many have described this as encirclement of china, both physically and figuratively, in the way of influence, sort of like a, a attendance strategy. and so russia, it's china, is this how it's being perceived by b j. i sing, you made a great point, it seems to wash and that has almost a weaponized always for relations with china over the past 2 years. blaming china for his own domestic and international issues. washington often denies attempting to contend badging, but actions indeed a speaks. we louder than words,

i think the united states through measures such as x 4 can chose increase the military spending and base expansion 6 to wait in china's economy any circle it even out of race because of sparking conflicts. i think this is a den, dress and analysis re policy. the us has proceeded military content, many policies before and the result having disastrous for millions, worldwide. even the architecture of the content of the strategy as who mation you draw. george kennan later regretted supporting such practices. in the latter part of his life, he became a staunch critic of cold war policies and expressed or remorse over the us to solve, solve it, arm race. he constantly warned about the dangers of a military, them and nuclear war, and expressed concerns about super powers of repeating the mistakes of the war. so

i think if kind of words, when is the intensifying competition between us and china today? i think it would undoubtedly be shocked at the us these ones looking heading down the path of confrontational policies from doc is ago, cause i think, continued china will, you audibly evolve, assist in the military expansion and explosive growth. email is responding. i believe the us currently space is many deeper route to a deeper rooted, easy use at home, such as whitening wealthy of your wealth in quality, high inflation, low income, the increasing employment. these are that you see that really require tax payers money to address. so continue to contain as the price china will only lead to excessive military expansion. and as

a 3 competition and wasteful spending, and more importantly i want to mention here is that china is not so be a uni. the swedish institute for security and development policy believes the success of the us content and strategy against the soviet union during the cold war was due to the limited economic context between the eastern and western blocks, the west recruited easily leverage of the solve evenings allies with these abundant material production, but in the era of economics, globalization a, china is the, lar, is the trading partner. as almost all neighboring countries and regions, no country is willing to reduce easy to nomic ties with a china to align with us contentment strategy. take the all the, all, for example trainings the larger trading ponder of us the on and also in countries have benefited briefly from trade with china. and in contrast to the united states

is quite a stingy in this regard. during last year's us of the on summit, mr. vinyl only provided a $150000000.00 us $1.00 and $8.00 to $10.00 of the on countries. so i think that's why we haven't seen much of reports on the follow on ups of the so called in do pacific economic framework. and i as to the word i think so if we go back to be even with go, go have a look at the data from row bed, for example, the us, how to ged a g d p of just around $25.00 trillion us dollar last year while china was approximately 18 trillion less daughter, accounting for more than a 3rd of global economy will when they combined in china in the us, have nearly a quarter of a rose population and bureau bilateral trade account of for about was 50 of the words total. so the relationship is way too important to be messed up or to indulge

with short sight emotions. so i think in this case, major country competition is not the only way out for them. and the road as president, she said the during the meeting, the where is big enough for, for the 2 countries to succeed. and one country success is an opportunity for the other. and that actually has been proven right over the years of china, us close cooperation, before all those drama started. yeah. $150000000.00 is pocket change for the us. and then this spread among more than a dozen asian states is quite cheap. if you ask me, all right, coming up next, the host city for a pac 2023. san francisco carries a lot of historical importance for us. china relations. so former mer turn, the governor of california. gavin newsome rolled out the red carpet for president. she will discuss it when we return with and go sit tight,

the m o will be right back, the the, the, the welcome back to the m o i manila chance. so just 2 weeks before president joe biden created president, she in san francisco president. she welcome to california, is governor newsome to beijing. is this a signal that something bigger is brewing for newsome beyond california is borders and a good g. a political analyst and radio host is back with us. thank you for sticking around with us and us. so the host city for a pack this year was san francisco and

a historically important city for chinese americans. a symbol of chinese relations, china town hub for many asian immigrants in the surrounding area. this once beautiful city has been played by homelessness and open air drug use in recent years. california as governor gavin newsome took great measures to clean up his hometown head of the summit. many say, particularly for president, she, but just a few weeks before he greeted she in san francisco, governor newsome paid presidency, an official visit to beijing. much of the american press ignored this trip by governor newsome. what was the purpose of newsome's trip to beijing? i mean, we know california has direct trade coming from china and give it, it's on the pacific coast. but what is the trade issues be discussed at a peck a few weeks later anyway? so why is a special trip by new some to the 1st of all,

i think the san francisco in california indeed hold special significance in the context of china us relations of this connection dates back to the chinese laborers who came to the us and to be able to railroads and even earlier on china's national de october 1st to base your the city hall in san francisco, even raised the chinese national flag for celebration. and as you mentioned, everyone is well aware of the economic and tree ties between china and california. whether is the high tech companies in silicon valley or the traditional shaping and treating sectors? california indeed plays a crucial role in china, us economic cooperation. so in that case, i think governor and using visit to china is not a surprise. i think of similar visits are well planted and prepare for over the long term. but what i want to emphasize is that the weather is separate,

stays court as, as san fransisco, california, or governor, and use them. don't just re present a city, a state or a governor. the re present rational pragmatic added to you to towards china, within the united states reflecting the viewing of money. i think, for example, around the same time as governor and use them to visit a significant number of american visitors, including cabinet and including members of congress, prominent and business leaders. they also visited china. this rational attitude has existed data for a long time, but in the current political environment and do not as states. i think this voice, but this, their voices having surprise to or in some cases are afraid to be expressed. as you mentioned earlier, for, for some time now,

the united states has taken this years of misguided actions in each relationship with china. actions that appear quite negative from the chinese perspective. therefore, i think a governor needs them to visit to china jose, another important significance that is, tells the chinese people there are still in the videos in the united states who support a cooperation with china, who, montana come and a rational mindset. the big stream views of a certain politicians do not re present that entire of the united states. this is a crucial, i think, for a future direction know for bilateral relations because in develop new relations with the us, the chinese government also needs to consider the needs and the send 2 men duffy's own people. and of course, recent american visitors to china, including governor news and should not be single, a labeled as pro china,

i believe, compared to politicians who, you know, who have been calling for confrontation. they simply prioritize the long term interest to us over the short term gains. as i mentioned earlier, cooperation between china into us. he's very beneficial for both countries. the recently a deport hate dr. hurry kissinger is a representative fever in this regard. he's widely knowing china. i would like to express my condolences for his pasting, but i understand that dr. kissinger's stance on china has a face to criticism from some american media. but his perspective is precisely what the united states, and he's now a clear in the rational understanding and attitude towards china. the new as needs new features like kissinger, you know, politician who constantly consider a long term interest. so if the american people, when dealing with china,

so it's very so discussion in china recently. well, governor needs them to be the next kissinger in china, us relationship. i'm not sure on that, but i hope that there are more and kissinger features emerge in the united states and a more rational boyce's in the us when dealing with the china. yes, kissinger was a very controversial political figure here in the us to say the least. but to his credit he, he did open the door to the modern relations between us and china. so lastly, where does the us and china go from here? bite into space and a tough re election cycle. in a year's time, it's possible, she's in pain, couldn't be negotiating with someone else as products. is china looking beyond the 2024 us elections in its own calculus for its relationship with the us?

um, as i mentioned earlier, uh well china, us relations may not always be smooth. they generally have a positive trip trajectory. in the words of chinese style fisher expression. there are a 1000 reasons before china in the us to improve their relations and not a single reason to person done. but of course, bilateral relations cannot depend solely on china's side. so if we look cats past the situation, china has always been a hot topic during us elections for song candidates, demonstrating a tough stairs towards china. seems to be the most effective way to appeal to voters, though this may be not entirely accurate. because according to my discussions with many american friends, they seem more concerned about domestic issues such as health care is

infrastructure, tax raise, etc. but i think that really should be the focus ray of from china is to perspective, i think of the long term development trend of china us relations will not change because of a single election because no matter which party or political seeker comes to power, there are some basic facts that cannot or at least will be difficult to change in the short term, such as the huge economic country ties between the 2 countries, such as the long term close exchanges. another example is the shared responsibility of the 2 countries are use use such as a climate change piece and a security, you know, in the areas they try to forage more cooperation between the 2 size. so therefore, china is policy on china. i'm trying to us relations involved expressing core concerns, making clear what do you use?

these are non negotiable wrapped lines such as supporting taiwan independence or you know, instigating the separation of china. this is definitely non negotiable. those are the rep lies of china and it also involves demonstrating a sincere willingness to cooperate and being open to collaboration in areas where both sides can and should work together and a good geopolitical expert and talk show hosts for the cvt and radio. thank you so much for your insight today. all right, that is going to do it for this episode of modus operandi the show that digs deep into foreign policy and current affairs. i'm your host manila trans. thank you for tuning in. we'll see you again next time to figure out the ammo, the

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