so again, you probably don't wanna watch it because it might just change the way you take a fresh look around. there's a life kaleidoscopic, isn't just a shifted reality distortion by power to division with no real opinions. fixtures designed to simplify all confused who really wants a better wills and is it just because it shows you few fractured images presented to this, but can you see through their illusion going on the ground? can the hello thanks to join us. an odd c exclusive interviews, my guess today is professor, but you can hear me is a professor of political science,

the full mouth far enough as minister the federal republic of nigeria professor can be thank you very much for talking to us. that's obviously the dice moment. thank you for inviting that professor considering south africa's move to take israel to the international court of justice. for the genocide. we've also seen both parties make the presentations at the international court of justice at the hague. what's easier assessment if this development? i'm so proud of south africa versus i will say are the best times for south africa for africa, for the ward. because south africa talk out east next, or on a more route each month dba, my della will be give you some. so wherever he is now,

then yes, this is the nation that i left behind because when custodians writes in the history of these times, this war in gaza. believe me is probably the one that going to use to judge all of us on south africa will get a good nation. so i'm very proud of south africa. and that this task lead what i have on this car and i demand deadline role in the water south africa made that narrow definition of genocide. you know, it just such a narrow issue that is where i imagine for it's they do both the idea,

hold on things jump to the same breath as the made and that present dition as to why watts is rose j fit the definition off uh, dental side on the other hand, when do is read list came the why ruffling or low budget please. not talking about what the, how much the on that but is domestic. non lloyd's very glare varies no just different gifts under rules to guided wolf, rice, fessler justification for genocide. none whatsoever. so that's not there. know how much do these, how much did that and so on and say you now call month.

so where we are doing this or we are going to do these to pre, to prevent genocide when the president, you have prime minister, your defense minister, we have minutes, efficiency now government or fish, as past said down record for say we wipe out a mouse and there's so many for when as far as quoting purposes, animals, yes, precisely. now, professor from south africa requested various provisional measures including the suspension of israel's miniature operation and gaza. i've given his israel's history or for ignoring resolutions, do you believe it will comply? if granted, especially considering potential consequences from powerful allies like the united states and the united kingdom. no,

i don't expect. i don't expect a need will be due to the ruling of that costs. so on. it is a well being very good company. uh, i've never have through the united states itself. i had um disobeyed, did it costs a breach and that disobeyed difficult. i can give you a whole list of people who are disobeyed vehicle. so it's are going to have been good. dec company. uh, this'll be vick often with our on on me, terry. i mean junction. all of course, this is the weakness. this is the weakness of the best option. i thought of just as the main judgment is now going to call on to it will tell me yes, by which time the war is over. i that the palace now since i've been wiped out or

is there were life going with them. right jason, that in this to do on best way. estrada important that the, the i c g mix, i mean tarion rule named with them wings for faster service here. the sake of humanity. yes. yes. that professor academy, south africa is a state policies of the genocide convention. it mentions it to publication, to prevent genocide in its application to the i c, j. a. why do you think south africa is pursuing this case? you did mention in your opening statement that your proud of the nation of south africa for sticking its neck out is why i think pursue, with this case, despite potential backlash from israel's inferential allies. and that would probably be a state for them. i'm in the united states said it's better, this is wireless condemned. it says load liable. some of even described to south

africa as the legal representations of most. so they will see all those this will during the day. what do you expect? south africa has down's. this is said rough policies. i have said that varies a that soft profit cos ruled in the world is a month deadlines. fission falls. what we ought to be doing on not to what we're doing for the whole world. don't forget vista, some who went to prison, the side that tries to do duels to get out of prison. so many times, he refused to stop by something for i said that they kept some done. i would say he

was principled on the longer and longer on to find natalie. i'm in the, the simply a touch to see fancy. so we got struck to one my 6 brick faced on my have said to this that when the war watsonville would expect of south africa, is this more outstanding via high morales funding that is not expected of issue like to and that stuff that for guys coming these every loads because in terms of national, not an interest that our friends problem, they've got to know or is it to do next? spect my to rare ward reward for that. that fact will not be south africa, a man professor, let's talk about the united nations. i did see

a name on the internet. i described to you guys have nations as the united. nothing's referring to its inability to stop at this master cousin garza, the united nations involvement and the creation of israel. it was involved in the creation of these or do you believe the organization is played a sufficient role in addressing the root causes of the conflicts such as the occupation and the suffering of the promising and people be careful of what you wish for? because what you get me come round to on to the 9 to 40 a convention on genocide believe me came into existence, be cause of what the mattress deed to the jews fox, charlie. in fact, i was listening to, to,

during the presentation 8 drawers, i drew a survivor of program. we invented the word genocide on now it to be used to hong v, the these, right and the nation. now, the united nation, as i said, i actually said the true, most responsible for the christian offices, right? but this is right now is not what did united nations created? and then besides on man, this aged on a fan, this if and this is in the is really thing cause i did beginning to expect that the nation is ready to be a shy new mode due to the war. and also what the

world showed to be the thoughts that they will continue to remind. and that was also what progress gender site had been on now and the said never get understood and have a game. but then with what they mean now by nearby a game is, i mean if it dr. net the yahoo. yes. and have a game. will they be things of dealing with the victims? they more inflict punishment. they will inflict genocide they will in st. paul, grow on not that big port on, on people who cannot fight back. i

know, i know you. i agreed to say yeah, but how my mother side to 7th period lose fact in background, su desk does desperation that discussion so. so there's a saying that i'm in, if a m k d, i'm going to go to and see if there was no profit vision. there wouldn't be a creation of that if they british with knots or pressing the irish i r a would have not been treated the bridges with no oppressive ad mama in k. i would love to great at that. a most of the creation of the is really aggressive and local patient quite quite if you're no resistance is so risky, reaction. so oppression. yes. so we say the excellent job that perhaps do on the united nations, the still have our support lights on the you and considered the united states

consistent use of it's b to, to protect each row in the united nations security council. do think that reform in the united nations security council, particularly eliminating vito paula could make it more effective and impartial and addressing conflicts like this one for witnessing in the middle is none. and then now select us. take 2 steps back before the internet doesn't need just us create the lead, go from initials or to on be calls do united states. so it just interests will not be put that the indigenous to joining on the rank dryly. the golf initials on last video nights a new shows me to existence precisely because a zip power of victor was there to protect the interests of this

powers. now times more you get may not be the best, but so let's practice to car a few i but listen to victor, did you unite this digital walk? i mean, all the simple parts i hear. so it's a type of protective mechanism. there does not professor, given the significant number of positive and casualties that go strategic goals. do you believe israel is pursuing this disco portion of it is use of force and containers bombardment of gaza? i mean, they must be something and, and go and what, what, what sorts of go, so you get this sort of high numbers of casualties. many of them, uh, civilians, women and children. we all, we have loved be making the mistake. we've all been focusing on guys.

how about the west bank actually before a mass action is right outside of being in the event in the west bank in video, the or no uh either the settlement, the, the model machine building set domains enough that didn't mean going in this is that had been pop from the military action before a mazda event of victor. so, did in terms of how much a, a, i b, isn't it? the whole one store, wipe out all the palestinians. not, not just come out on the list and asking guys more to really wants to do is to drive them to sign that as

a that and then she creates new areas for is really set domains in gaza in gaza. fast that sort there wants to do now, is there a perceived double standard in the way west and countries have responded to use rose actions in gaza compared to that versus miniature operations in ukraine? does israel seem to get a different type of treatment on the false, the, for what to feels t o c o y, the poor girl. that the masterpiece inflicted don't do just the costs of that. we talk a lot less applied on line i on what the advice is trying to dos is like we've got to come pay say the jews for watson be so

good. the last thing, the last thing i public for going the west was to be tied is scientists. i me take a look to precedent or medical you and invest this. i've lost that job on this matter. yes. what happens to be black? right. your 1st black president of the crowd, but this one is president of the university of pennsylvania. i'm still sure of us be cause i'm jewish. don't know. said of the tool mid noon. that type place i will not donate on to this president goes and they had his way. oh yes. how do you say now we'll do this to is this so i let's read vast things

later. i'll see on our, i mean i brush president said i said, oh, i saw part is road on the 5, the palestinian saying guys i must be dealt with do use and they will remove in and out and yeah, now in light of the outgoing conflict, do you see any potential diplomatic interventions and the mediation efforts that could be escalates the tensions between israel and palestine and is america the united states of america fed meeting to be fit they where to antecedent one way or the other? no, unfortunately, this is the election a year. you'll notice on by didn't pass to be pro is right. if he wants to have that chance really about what top font to clubbing.

jeremy kobus singles. the entrance and method. it was tab dentist submit to believe me that my wasn't to send me to. but it was that i knew was driven out of the ship or the past 2. the best deals that used to be the jewish interests, regardless of the political party with a conservative whole label. um, democrats or republicans big, big, big the friends my food is thrilled by. everybody has said that tool state solution fly back to solution, but who is going to false is right. so how does that best? as we begin to wind down on this interview, how would you assess the role of international public opinion and grassroots movements and influence and at the resolution of the palestinian israeli conflict?

particularly given the rise of global activism and social media, we see protest with thousands of people on the streets of europe. and it seems some of this, governments don't even listen even in america to their own people. yeah, because the restaurant is good to be good. they both do the thoughts. we have the evidence now, and i'm sure you're aware of faith that they may judge of the young people went to the beach when beat that was voted on. when does that issue remain in the euro fan us? it's yes. well then this stopped or is for gone. we know no, nobody's going to will fire on still new so that so we will go out of the day off, and then the reality the reality shift. so is the same thing. the

reason that part of this just shows you know, who are very good, i dress, ruth mobilization, don't pay accusation. so all these young demonstrate draws garage rules movements on is that when it comes to the time of what they've done? sure. that's the way. now, considering as we speak, i mean, i'm sure, by the time we finish this interview more children that would have died in thousands of and most people would have been suffering from this event, effects of hunger and starvation. not considering the normal human and saving price is a garza and the west bank will steps can be taken to ensure the delivery of aid and so pull to affected populations. and how can the international community navigate to potential challenges and providing assistance?

because it's almost a life and death situation as the clock ticks, they did promise before the international court of justice didn't for use right? data from may so that you know, there are gonna open up chance for a change to go in. and i don't believe. yes, they will not be feud. john knows trickles. let me save this. my men, we men of the year. uh, the journalist, the deluxe to us, the united nations walk us through host to their or off today i lies, was from a list. why, why doubt they did you have to see the last

day i might people of the year on i hope i hope with that will be a chapter. so, you know, wish you mind being south times is when you have the exact stuff like conveys that the funds you saw that you said the best that eventually honestly you have the concept of force that you are not expecting as drafting the wa stuff, thoughts. you also send the best stuff was most people have the best of your money to the funding, the profess. so i can be looking ahead. what do you see as a last, as solutions to these ready published in, in conflict and do you believe us 2 state solution is produced by the united nations in the 1967 resolution is still

a viable possibility. this task is to be a few want to us top, the how mass resistance to deal with the piano. it has to be is drew, how story recognize, verify that the palace in those most 5 whole of their own may be the $67.00 room boundary. is no longer active available. maybe we will have to think uh when they booked the 2 states. so this junk is the service and if not where it got from be changed? yes, on the will be sitting here. i'm talking about, oh my god. see what has just happened. it's been an absolute pleasure talking to you, professor black jack in the thank you very much talking to us about the language here. thank you very much. the,

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