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tv   Cross Talk  RT  January 19, 2024 1:30pm-2:00pm EST

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was archie international up next on costs i peter lavelle and his guests discuss how the biden administrations steadfast and unequivocal support of israel makes us, many of its allies, co conspirators, to war crimes and even genocide. by the
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in the late 18 ninety's, french soldiers led by general to boot. i arrived in asia with the goal of expanding french control in west africa to the territory of more than shot. the most funny, i mean, he's stuck up system issue for all the cars and dick's showing the list to the tent, the overlay on least one of the most horrific campaigns of a trustees to have ever taken place in the history of the continent. liability getting hold of somebody. i know the question that you download the glass you followed there to do so they put the national most likely multiple villages with devastated a numerous members of resistance groups with the headed apartment for us to get the young investigator in search of his own identity
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inbox on that you need to africa. the choices general, who with eyes, blood drenched roots in an effort to establish how your legacy still echoes throughout the confidence. so my name is penny, and i come from england and i've come really to find out more about the, the mission of willy. i'm based, grew up in, in the region. the hello and welcome to cross up. were all things are considered. i'm peter lavelle, the by the ministration steadfast and unequivocal support of israel makes the united states and many of its allies, co conspirators, to war crimes and even genocide. the west is quickly losing any claim tomorrow.
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superior court, the the press ok in palestine. i'm joined by my guess michael maloof in rest and he is a former pentagon senior security policy analyst in new york. we have line or he is a legal and media analyst and assemble. we cross to professors, i mean l a. ryan ski is director of the center for as well and global affairs at symbols. i am university. alright, gentleman cross talk roles and the fact that means you can jump any time you want and i always appreciate line. and let me read something for to you that i read in the american conservative by a good writer, a james card in reacting to the fact that uh, anthony, blinking maybe to the cover of time magazine. i didn't even know time magazine was around anymore. so that was the kind of surprising and because i don't see why anyone would read it, but this is what he had to say in his article that was in the american conservative . how many americans know that the by the administration has sent in excess 10000
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tons of weapons? the israel since the fighting began in october. thanks, anthony, blinking babies, policy of indiscriminate slaughter is now ours, and that is something for which one day we americans may pay a awful price. reflect upon that for me. you know, one of the things i find it you're saying is that if you look at the, the international court and the i, g, c, i, j, c, in this, this initial preliminary, probable cause hearing whatever this is because it's a complete, a kind of a strange um, version of of law, but if it is true that genocide is proved or established under whatever particular standard of care, reasonable doubt or probable cause, there is then under all acceptable law everywhere in the world. whoever aides a bad counsels procures hires is an excess 3. is a co conspirator,
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a participant, a principal in the 1st degree. peter, if you drive the getaway car to bank robberies you are just as guilty as i am. using this absolute axiomatic view of the law and responsibility and culpability. how can anybody get around is irrespective of what you feel personally, if they find a genocide or a part died or whatever it is took place. and the united states was an absolute, vital participant, and a neighbor of it. we are under all acceptable rules of law as guilty as a principle. we are a principle period, actually, a medic. well, sammy live uh, in the same vein here we saw is real in the dock um at the international court of justice. the very fact that they're in the dock tells us enough all of us . so this era of social media, we can see in real time what's going on, i mean,
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i'm very well aware that that chord can be easily politicized because it's nice and then the judges represent nation states. so that's open to corruption, political corruption. but at the end of the day, it doesn't really matter because any kind of finding would take years and years and many, many more years. the way things are going. but it's up to the decision. public opinion is already decided. what he was saying is already defined what it sees, go ahead and assemble and there's no question that is a committed the crimes. but the genocide dental side has 2 elements. one is in 10th and the other says come back. and i think the south african presentation as well as their memorandum 84 pages of a stablish that the intent was there from the president of the state to the prime minister, to all the cabinet members all the way down to the soldiers. all of them have have, have actually illustrated that their intent is, is genocide. we've seen the contact for the past 400 yet the day so far. we're
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talking about over 30000, maybe 31000 that have been either killed or missing over 60000 injured. we're talking about the stations throughout the guys us to the 2300000 people. 1.95 have been displaced. we're talking about civilian civilians being targeted date and, and they all and the whole world doing nothing. i certainly do not see it as being complicit. and by the way correction here, it's not 10010000 times it's 65000 times. that's about 4 times that they have a shipment bomb. and this is just in a matter of about 100 days, a token of unbelievable amount of ammunition that have been well just by point was i think in the article that said, so sort of the conflict. 10000 tons were sent. but i get your point very clearly. it shows of the, the, the war on children in gaza. um it was manufactured in the united states. so the point taken, michael, that the, the,
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in this again going to you about culpability. i found it really interesting that anthony blinking was actually profiled in time magazine because it looks like they're running the running cover because he looks like when he speaks about this and the state department talks about this, they were looking very scared. i mean to the point of what would blanket look like in an orange jumpsuit. michael, i said, well that would be very intriguing. i think blanking should just stay home. he is totally useless. he. he cannot control netanyahu. and yahoo is running, running a mock. as far as i'm concerned, the united states has put him up to it. and he realized as he now has the united states where he wants them. and he wants endless war. as a consequence of putting the need for political and personal survival at all costs . we're seeing this now and he's dragging us into this thing. and because of our extraordinary lobby here, back at home,
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that the israeli lobby and our congress. we have, uh, we have uh it both in the house and the senate and, and i would add, uh, it threw up the um, throughout the uh, administration. this is becoming, uh it is making the united states highly comfortable and we're seeing the reaction on our own streets now. yep. so this and, and what's unfortunate is that even our mainstream media has picked up it to, to equate hom, us with palestinians. and they don't understand or are they don't want to recognize that distinction that, that is real, is bombing and annihilating innocent civilians. and as you point out some 30000 the depths of have occurred and, and it's, it's all because of this, this carpet bombing,
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incessant carpet bombing the that is going on. and i would add that it's been done because netanyahu and his were a radical rabbit ministers. have called for the elimination is they have palestinians and they want them out of the air. well the chair whereas the miko but, you know, we, we, it's all nice and convenient for some to talk about what happened after october. so what happened on october 7th and after, but there's, this is a 75 year history that's in here. and, and my, if i go to lionel, this is the final act of this history of 75 years of clearing the, the palestinian people from is from palestine level. the only thing that is allowing this to happen is the continued unexpected nations and ignorance and closeness on the part of the average american. they have absolutely no idea. number one, number 2,
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we have this thing in this country where we are allies, we are we, we are always been an ally of israel, but there, i thought most people thought there was a conditional say we will be an allied, but 1st, we must review the particular operation, the we are a lie with you on. it's not an unconditional. you can do whatever you want. it seems like they're just this one size fits all, whatever happens. but let me ask you add one thing to show you how to diffuse and confuse this is we're going now and we're spreading this into whether anti semitism is somehow contaminating the, the college. it's like, well wait, wait, wait, what this is not the other day. i heard a talk radio, how suggest that the people who were protesting at fort for pro palestinian were anti semite left these who went into hospitals because they believe that the hospitals were somehow connected with jewish picks. i mean, they, it's like, where did you get this from? yeah, nobody corrected. nobody said, well, well wait a minute. what,
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what happened with our ability to critically think that's not what's happening, but nobody correction because one please. nobody cares for too busy. the problem is that this whole issue is short circuited. everything the west believes about itself . sammy, one of the most important things here is the west is always claim most appear already in every single spear of existence that is completely collapsed right now. you cannot protect the country and committing genocide in saying because we have a special relationship, but also because of history. now it's in the law as the law and they signed up for it and it's wrong and the world and i, and i mean, the vast majority of the world sees it from what it is. go ahead and assemble. the absolutely, i mean, was seeing the united states conduct when russia went in to ukraine and how they were going after russia, claiming all kinds of genocide or kinds of war crimes. and is,
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does it 100 times over? we saw what kind of a policy is, you know, the not only children get started protecting is sort of redoing the un security council resolutions stopped this war, but even they are everything they are supporting with, with, with, with the munition, with weapons. and what's funny, because color and so on and so forth to the standards he is white, quite obvious about it. and also you'd see, you know, they were talking about ukraine. they had problem given you know, few $100000000.00, even one of the house because was ousted and one is well asked for a 14 points. the menus are 14 points, the 1000000000 that was it was approved in one session. so you could see how this is and, and your reference to the lobby i think is, is pointed that we haven't seen a single political force that has that much grip. i mean, even the nice states they disagree about everything except this issue, this issue. yeah. but i think this,
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but i think this time round as we go to the break here, public opinion is been aroused and it is very, very angry. and it's very discuss the gentleman i have to jump in here. we're going to go to a short break, and after that short break, we'll continue our discussion. i'm house on stay with the the welcome back across that were all things are considered 9 peter roosevelt's remind you were discussing palestine. the the go back to michael. michael, it's really interesting for me, i can remember when i was in university and they were the pro palestinian groups on
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campus, and they were usually staffed by american jews. and it was, you know, and then you know, a many years ago on this program, i had don norman finkelstein on and benny morris, the historian, the story, and in israel and it, at the time it was kind of nice. it was um, you know, kind of on the side lines. um, it is very important obviously, and it's important to is only become more important through time. but there is a change of consciousness right now. i mean, this is go on youtube and what you see is just, i'm astounded about people that have learned a lot very, very fast. and they are disgusted in what they were learning. go ahead, michael. well, that's reflected in the demonstrations. we're seeing virtually a right in the western world, i should say. and, and we're seeing this also in, in the global, in the global south. people are becoming though quite concerned about all of this.
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and, and even though, even though the, the united way can differ on policy every but if you disagree with israel, you are anti semitic. and i've even been accused of that. it's pretty hard since my background is lebanese. so it, this, that is a rather amazing to me that they just don't know what they're talking about. and you're absolutely right. so that this, this, that people have become more educated, more informed, and they don't like what they see. and they see a country such as israel, now that has gone, that has it that is out of control. and they are mimicking the very things that the nazi germany did to them and ended in the call for layman's realm that i found. and i have read newspaper in 2011. it's a clear out the, the,
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the palestinians from even the west bank and, and also gotcha. and just move them out to, to reclaim their biblical. uh, what, what they believe to be there. maybe close to pet heritage and that would include moving all the way up to the tiny river in the, in, in level on. i mean they, they are out of control. michael, my got a minute to look at and look at the you. let's go a little bit further. how about to the nile to the euphrates. okay. you know, brought, you know, from the river to the same. people misinterpret that. no. there's a different river in play. and there's a different saying play here, okay, that's what it's back to when you know either line or what is really interesting. and it's really important to reflect about what mike, what michael said, because, you know it's history. but, you know, we have the, the, this ridiculous person, they madeline, a better box. it was, it's amazing how low the bar is, become per europe, and ministers and cheese for administer germany, a green apparently as well. and you know, just full throated support for israel,
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but you know, i know the germans have a problem with humor, but i didn't think they had a problem with fire name. so you have a country in the middle of the last century. they committed genocide against europe, seduce and now you have the same country, germany, supporting jews in the middle east to commit another genocide. i'm what happens. i mean there's of that. it doesn't compute, sorry, align, oh, well, i don't want to, i don't want to play upon your reference to humor, but there is a neurological disease where if somebody makes too much too much jokes and ponds, it's called vips so sucked. so leave it to the germans that come up with a, a condition for, for being too funny. that was a joke. i'm sorry, i thought you might just something very interesting. you mentioned norman finkelstein, this guy was the d. b cooper of the internet. nobody, he just disappeared, he jump out of a plane, nobody saw him again, never to be heard from. and now he and max blumenthal, if match blumenthal doesn't get the nobel peace prize or the appeal it's,
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or this man all is everything. here we're here here. i, i would just wanted to agree with lionel on that. max blumenthal is doing amazing work. he's doing amazing work for all of us and for peace. keep going, lionel there very quickly. and because americans are particular in the west, they don't read over definitions when, when they hear genocide, they might think of nazi germany. genocide specifically means as crime, committed with the attempt to destroy a national ethnic, racial or religious group in a whole. or in part it's not what you think it is. a power type is a definition, not what people remember like south africa. mendoza. no. read the standard read what's to be proved. it's not your colloquial street version of what this is. so when people talk about the question of is israel label for a genocide,
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read what the definition is and they don't. so consequently they dismiss it as over reaction, but it's very, it might be the wrong term. but clearly, if you read the definition, i believe the south africa has a least made a prime efficient case of that. absolutely. it was sammy, one of the things that i've been observing very carefully during all of this is the reaction of the muslim world. and with no, of course there's of leaders that will come out in the country that you live in america. one has been very strong about how he feels about it, but don't you think in it and, and, and this is something that he think is important to highlight. don't you think that they are, the muslim world has to be more forceful and how it's reacting to those because you have leaders and you have princes insult. and so i've all this, but then you have people and are their view is being registered enough because it's like i've, we've all said here. you can watch this in real time. it's so unbelievable that we have the capacity to watch a civilization, a group of people,
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a population being annihilated right in front of our eyes. go ahead, sammy, what am for dressing most of the most in countries including 30 and others throughout the world are the control. they are under heavy pressure from the united states. they have been threatened, they have been pressure. and i can give you many examples about that, but i want to say just one word about anti semitism that needs to be empty. somebody that was the glass of the condition of someone who hates to lose or ex, embrace the stories against them. but today, the definition of i have to submit this in our lowest, that design is don't like so it's different parents if they don't like you, then somehow become empty, some like, right? but in terms of the word that you could see, you know, 57 countries meant a couple of months ago. and they couldn't even agree on anything because of the heavy pressure by denied states blinking just left the area here he went through a recap to basically give them all kinds of dictates of what they should or shouldn't do. and that's why you see the product is taking place. 10 countries
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actually reject reject it. very simple mentos in which the pressure of the nice states, which is the only country that is capable of pressure and is way to stop. it's the other side, the more and here, you know, 10 country is because of that relationship with united states. you know, they have bases inside these countries and they have all kinds of financial and other economic pressures that they have been applied. and therefore, you could see that there is still to practices within that, up and listening. what? yeah, that's it. it's very, very unfortunately, because them of all people in the world to be able to stand up and speak out about the atrocities. it's the, it's the, the muslim world. michael, how worried are you about the escalation? because the blinking and this is the most of the clown is person i think on the political scene. and that's saying a lot of it is last the shuttle diplomacy in the middle east, just escalated things. i mean what i thought it was about de escalation and it looks like knitting yahoo as a green light to do whatever he wants,
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where he wants to stay in power. number one, the number one and the number 2. he wants to stay out of jail. so go to war with his blog. what are your thoughts, michael? well, i, i concur with you completely. as i said at the top, you should just stay home because he's totally useless. i mean, during his 1st meeting, when the administration 1st came in and he met with the chinese, they lectured him that showed weakness right there. we and boards, and we could have tests anticipate for years of weakness. and now we've seen it demonstrated completely look i, i fear that this entire region is going to go up. now that if the ron is directly involved, uh that that makes it, uh, as i said, we're going to be getting into where our data by front work, just within this area. and it could, is easily slipped into a 6 front war. and, and the fact that the fact that we're hitting the amenities the way we are and,
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and what they have, what stood for years against societies. yeah, i mean we, we, we have demonstrated how millet, our, on this as a military power is limited. in fact, if we want world peace and we, and we're demonstrating that because of our inherent weak this now and, and our, our dominance of the world seen is visually and, and the world is seeing it. and we're seeing it. and the by the administration doesn't have a response to it, you know, liable to what degree do does the american public is the american public aware of the fact that the entire middle east region could blow up at any moment here in the ramifications are almost impossible to predict, i mean there's so many different possibilities here and where's there were there, but they know they want to talk about the or the evil orange man. i mean,
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talk about a cut, a country, you know, out to lunch, michael, i'm sorry, line on while you were actually right, i am a michael, but that's part of the show why i'll tell you what's interesting about this, and i'm an expert in this way that's why you're here. that's why you're here. that's why you're here. so don't forget michael means one who was like, god, just leave me just a me cry. oh but, but, but the point is we, we are the united states of nations as we speak right now. believe me, what i'm telling you this, we spent, rather than talking about the fact that there's a new coalition, we talked about this the other day. i know people, plastic, prototypical, upper west side, jewish liberals who now have to go to fox news crowds to feel any kind of somebody go or connection with what they feel about israel. i mean, you've got left is now right, right. is what? nobody knows what we're talking about and to show you what would captivated people's attention was the president of harvard, claudine gay,
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who basically did not speak enough against anti semitic and weapons to be black and have a strange air. got i'm, that was the focus. not. it's almost like it's like a child crying, and you shake the keys over here, or the rodeo clown. you, you have this guy who comes out to the charging bowl is there's no, no over here. we're distracted, revered is, it says i'm for skated news. i don't think that, you know, we call schwab said it was a great reset. i didn't think he had this in mind that because there is the world is now upside down. well, you know, sam, a real quickly 30 seconds here and i know brings up a good point. what's up, what's down, what's left, what's wrong, right? but i'll tell you what it gets down to what is right and wrong. and i think that's the moment we're facing 25 seconds. go ahead. sammy, what are we? you know, united states has 63 basis around the image of the base. all of these spaces are the reason and what they want it to do was they wanted to give it to china. so they wanted to hand over this. is this, this region to saudi arabia and is that so
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a know monetization process that's not going to happen now, and that's why they have been pushing is do have an absolute victory so they can restore the image or the invincible army, which is not going to happen, and the problem that is tilted in have to do anything possible to stop this. well, this is how powerless the last remaining superpower is. gentleman. that's all the time we have a one to think, my guess in new york present. and it is them both. and of course i want to thank our viewers for watching us here at our d. c. a next time. remember across the the,
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