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share that is existed since the 1970s. these are 3 countries that share a common population, an economic structure. these countries are similar to each other. we can be called pencil in the countries and we have a very similar history. countries of already signed the so called look co go to much of this is an organization the aims to allow the 3 countries to develop their natural resources, as well as to develop trades cultural under for them. i think times the problems these countries faced in particular with terrorism, forced them to develop a common strategy, combined the forces to effectively fire service. so the defense and security spear images, which is clearly an embodiment of the blocks. so today is called the alliance of somehow states that is the shells talking about trade. we believe that the coming weeks, months and years will show that we were right to take this very important step on
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the path of openness that people have chosen. that for, we remain open to resort extraction with provisions that income will be shared by everyones. furthermore, russia is a bricks, country jazz on the partners and breaks and in the china, iran and south africa. we're currently trying to strengthen our relations with brakes countries. i'm in the very near future representatives, the organization will come to the region. we have a meeting scheduled to lay out the groundwork that will allow us to benefit from both the expertise and the funding this organization can offer. we have no problems with china or the united states, which also took steps within the framework of because despite the clear suspension and cooperation today, they decided to send their impassive this to have already presented that credentials to our, to minister of foreign affairs. as soon as the head of states is ready, he will meet with them to present their credentials. so we do not have any particular problem with these 2 countries. the
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not much of the world including western countries are seeking a 2 state solution to the middle east conflict, but israel's pm missing affirmed no way. next, cross top discusses who comes out on top in the whitening feud. benjamin netanyahu or his bonkers. the, [000:00:00;00] the, [000:00:00;00] the,
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the hello and welcome to the prospect boulevards on peter lavelle universal uselessness as the norm european leaders war and how dangerous the world is. yeah. do everything in their power to make the world more dangerous. and us leaders lead with netanyahu to promise them a 2 state solution. and he says no to discuss these issues and more, i'm joined by my usual guess george, send me while we in budapest, he's a pod cast, read the capital, which can be found in youtube and locals, and america. we have mark j is an award winning journals. alright, gentlemen, cross type roles and effect, that means you can jump anytime you want. and i always appreciated someone with george and in budapest, um, you know, as we've been chronicling on this program, um 2 major international crisis is the one going on in ukraine and, and uh, gods of the medicine parties. ready of them and all through with george. um, what is your rep assuming that what it does, does it have a pace here with this catalog real quickly what they,
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what they are doing or not doing? no real reaction to the north stream of destruction of pipelines, backing sanctions against russia, that hurt you're more than russia, but no defined security doctrine. no, we'll china policy. and last but not least in our favorites, usually a unusually cloudless elite. so where is europe in all of this, and does anybody really even care anymore charge? an excellent question would be to. so within the past few days, we have the german defense. minnesota bar is the story is declaring that sometime within the next 5 years, russia is likely to attack uh, native you know, don't know how he came up with this the scenario. well, this particular timeframe, but that was that he made this declaration and then we as i guess they basically saying, you know what, i think they want to get ready for it. okay. so,
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but if they're not ready for why wouldn't rush to do it now? okay, i don't, yeah, exactly, just it rather give them time to get ready. then we have the sweden's commander in chief saying sweden needs to absolutely get ready and to mobilize for well with russia. again, where he got this one, but sweden needs to move this and when was the last time rush it in sweet? here we're at war and the 3 bold estates and i got together and said we're putting together a baltic defense pack and bolting defense region. not exactly what we're sure, but there's a yeah, we're putting this together and then we have the, the majors, so gold, military, sion, gins thing. none of this military single thing means essentially no one has any site at all. and any in any democratic way about made. so moving anywhere at any
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time that he wants throughout the you. let's go ahead and amazing. i mean, either like nato suppose, does this thing use that thing, but i'm outbound that. we're going to have this absence of mobility, so roads, railways, apple is everything must wait way for made. so civilians you know, big that they can go to help. you know that the, the last thing i mean, any important that it's not heavy on sovereignty, is it not that terribly heavy? and then we have um, uh emmanuel, my co. uh saying, okay, your a is an absolute woods time a my, you know, where, where is it, where it's facing? carol, from russia. therefore, i need to go to a kia of a right away to sign a defense and security agreement for the time, the overseas soon. ag assigned in key of uh, the other that so we have a strange business. we have lisa, european, the leads, warning about this threat of war. war is imminent. and you have every single thing
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that they do and you know, in dangerous, everyone in your threat to secure against the building in europe. and let me continue doing the same thing. if you remember a few months ago when biting made a dramatic announcement, we are closer today to nuclear armageddon that in a time since the cuban missile addresses and then use the question was, well, well then if we are, why don't you do something about it? just the, just the mean the globe has been do you want to use the analogy or the soviets and who are the americans? and i was, you know, the part of you, we worked in the belly of the beast for a long time in brussels. here, i mean here i have a town. ready out here, georgia extended this year, but there seems to be no kind of, there's no pro active this about protecting, defining and protecting your opinion. if is, it just seems to be a colleague in the works. all the things that i mentioned then with george
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mentioned a reflection of washington's policy. not anyone in europe specifically or yeah, because phone policy, i mean grand scale foreign policy is hugely challenging. as monet's using the pull off or mission, we should always remember that the your opinion is very much stuff. top experimental projects had to be going for a few years. and it's only been going for a few weeks. when we look at some big policy. you know, international um, you know, a geopolitical grandstanding and i think, you know, as a, as time goes on, brussels looks more more to be some to some, to be some so like them independence, i don't know, soviet states, you know, the independence. but on a republic of brussels, it's a democracy, democracy, fries, other. unless the thing about these institutions look what's happened to them, just very recently, you know, we've seen this momentum now gathering. so you can't really do anything dynamic. do you have similar sit still keep shots,
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keep us male shots and see what the big moves. big players do. russian and america . i'm china. but. but you know, at the same time we've got voted on the land bang on the drum saying we need to get more money. so he's crane and there was this come services and george rattled off, you know, the list right. well, there is consensus of a leads now in europe that we need to create more history of why? because our economies are fading and sooner or later the brown stuff is going to hit the fan and we are going to face and a political up peoples, or let's create the drama now. that's correct. so now i get people acute, this idea that we could be in a wilson or we could be facing, you know, a sort of what, what was russia. but it's so funny that the statements that come from germany, i'm from some other places clash with bites. and this could, because biden's always saying that, you know, russia's last, last of all in your train, you know, is on his new, he's going to and then to europe in the st. no rush going to evade. um, you know,
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so, you know, the, we, we really do need to kind of get these 2 groups of people together. and, you know, which very interesting and that's surprising, george. and that this is all the lead to driven. i mean, if you look at what sort of a, scaring the people in the continent of europe, i mean, let's take a look at the german farmers up expect. i don't think the big about a war with russia. i think they're worried about their likelihood and likelihood there is gold goes back for many of them, generation generation after generation. it's and it's being literally destroyed by the populous rules of that coalition. there have, you know, you've got admitted to go out and address, you know, even just saying, you know, there's no more money, but just down the street. the next ministry is that we need money for you crate. i mean, that is a little cannibal situation. but anyway, as i always say don't, that's was barbara stuart. you're exactly right. so you do have the,
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the german follows and then let's remember there's also the farmers in, in poland and hungary is to lock it romania boiler. who has they were being hit by the policy or allowing uh bolen to dump its uh, grain in the european markets. uh same with the truck cuz so again, this is a policy completely out at 1st 2 europeans interest. and yet the, the leads continue to uh, down this path, you know, they go to, um dob was, uh, congratulate one another and then wonder, well what else can we do for you trade? um emmanuel, my car on your elizabeth a historically on popular use of either shopping. uh, it looks really the, the decks on the uh, the big chairs on the titanic and um, and what's on his mind waiting on his, my, what we, what, what more can i do for you, craig? i'm rushing off now to cave in order to assign
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a defensive deal to see doing that to curry favor with the americans because i don't think he cares about ukraine. ready ukraine and ukrainians. i don't think any of these you're in a way to do it off the map. i if you, if you were, you know, go a few layers in there and kind of not so politely, asking the ukrainian refugees to go home. i mean, a lot of people have had enough of this, but not the leads keep going towards the variety is the leads. and so despite the so that you can only crises they face, and despite the the historical unpopularity, i mean we, when you look at these, the polls say in germany, the key state in europe. i mean the, the, the boxes of the traffic like coalition historic lows. um yeah. you, you have the alternative to the extent brought to, uh, you know, constant the, uh, denounces fascists and whatever. and on the brink of the simply abolished and on the surveillance by the,
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the security space there on historic high the room is the of the same level as the christian democrats. and are you a new party and you left the spot in the of, of but it's just the merge. i don't know what a match or any doing better than any of the parties of the traffic light goes. if you think you called the message, i mean, you know, people. yeah, yeah, it's the same or that, and judge, and i've talked about this on our comcast, is that the leads anyone? if the any i d o a group of people they don't live, does that sound like a part of the doctor said that that's just code then you know, general challenge us empower ok. even if we're not doing a good job because when they do is like try to ideologically cancel your both sides primarily on the right part. yeah. and it's, it's easy to throw these, these slugs. people are institutions because nobody questions and nobody says what i own. is there any truth in that? what so what's worrying i think is that the council culture is really and
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gay. really accelerating within the ears. diffuse and is just such a level that, you know, i mean, just recently we saw in europe in parliament make notions tools clamping down on hungry and even tonight hungry. it's voting rights on a you council. that with that is sensational. that is the judge. i'm a product process to cancel the democratic process continued by the door to hear the clear. can you much? can you imagine russians, older russians, older generation russians who are looking docs, the thinking, but this is the soviet times. this is this, the joe story would be proud of this. you know, this is, this is a democracy that we can actually shut down in this country, you know, and there's no pick back. there's no, there's no opprobrium in the western press to say, hey, but that's on the democratic, isn't it? you know, under the same institution we saw ok even hushed, you know, this of them is chief uh,
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the tulsa who basically gets off on old list. federalism. you know, he's, he's, he's part of the super federalist leads in brussels. people who really believe that all of our problems can be resolved by having a new need. so our sales unit, they will never, they would, they use the same people who would never let anyone. ready the you actually vote upon it. yeah, yeah, but they're not interested in democracy. i mean, the thing is that people don't understand this, but up to being in brussels or whatever decade don't love. one of the things i notes just of the company is the e. u. is, can, is, is completely consensus driven organization. so it doesn't really have an internal accountability, doesn't really have an internal opposition. anybody who's sort of rebellious at the end of this block here. i mean, who decides what the consensus is? i'm gonna leave that as a rhetorical question, jennifer check the short break and after that short break, but continuing,
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especially as a real estate and back to the the the welcome back to crash the boulevards where we discuss some real news. i switched gears. let's talk about what's going on in gaza and the daylight that is appearing between washington and the is really politically where it's hard,
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but there's never any debt. the daylight between the americans like to say the very often i don't know why i don't see what they get out of it here. but um, there seems to be a game of chicken, of sorts going on here. um anthony, blinking, who completely mccloud himself, adolfo, was talking about of the complex. i know he's very good. you know, it's heart wrenching what's going on there. and i, i don't know, it was worth george lincoln or the audience. because why didn't this someone stand up and say, stop the war? but no one did. all they did was quite, but quite quiet politely for the nonsense that he was safe. what i'm getting at here, of course, is that though i'd like to present at the united states, joe biden has gone to the point. and now this is getting to the point of, of the search. well, there are different versions of the to solution. ok, that's news to me. and then meanwhile is a new cycle, the prime minister of israel benjamin danielle, who says, well, that will never be a 2 stage solution here. it's
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a game of chicken or who is the biggest full charge if it's greg, good question to who really does look the stupid is because of, of the americans have been playing this game for many, many years where the evidence also of claiming that they favor a 2 state solution, the, the, we were 2 states of the 2 state solution and never really spreading out well, what are you going to do to get the, i mean, what steps are you going to take it to in order to achieve it? they never really spell that out. they just said, well that's, that's our goal. so now with this uh, ripping the direct killings going hunting as of all they wanted from lives in the just the minimum is to say, yeah, yeah, yeah, we're down for it to stay solution. thinking about the spell it out. what it's going to look like when it's going to happen, what are we going to do to get to it just just as a yeah, yeah, yeah, we're, we're down to that. and then that's all the americans, all of them, and in which on it will give you everything you want all the on. do you want?
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another cousin is on the turn around is not where we're never going to have a 2 state solution. and so, so he's not doing much beyond when he said, oh, we're not going to have time us back and guys that we're not going to have the palestinian or the, or the i, the ruling in garza now, is that we're not a, we're going to have a, a palestinian state. so this really makes the americans a stupid number. what, what do americans do? so you've got these congressmen, you know, we're, we're, we're very happy about this and bodies on the table. and then it became and that's in the i would just talk. no, it just isn't gonna happen. i mean that's, that's what, what, what's the, what's really interesting, georgia, i go to martin right now, is that the online and social media, if you say from, from the river to the sea, you're going to have a spotlight on you, but not the prime minister of israel, you can say that, okay, and it's really quite clear,
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and i want to make sure our audience knows that you know which river in which see is he talking about? it's not entirely clear um, even though you can get a lot of trouble for it in social media. this is the whole point here. martin is that we, again, we've come to this point where because of the way this really is talk about a 2 state solution or the lack there of deposition to the americans is that this is again a. ready part of a design this program of never defining israel's borders, this words the, israel's advantage here is a go, the americans will never intervene and their local to intervene to stop genocide. when will they ever intervene that so obvious conclusion here are because there's no solution a, there's no real objective analysis of whether these really is a genuine us and serial. and all you know to state solution is just above what really doesn't mean anything. but it's kept the americans in the west quite for
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very long time because it's given them the material to use that cliche in tombs and times and times of reports, analysis and meetings, you know, but the reality is, you know what we are experiencing here. i think is a clash of the titans. we're actually seeing now head on this and, you know, and bytes and, and i think it's going to throw into question in america and in the west particularly. um, what is the relationship, what is really, is the relationship now between america and these are, why do we keep pumping money into this tiny country, which is just messing up? and so i'm at least creating original now. i mean, the hell we've got era, i'm focused on, they'll find records, each of the, you know, let's just happened the last few days. we knew we never imagined the on last week. sure. so it really is going read. so it's getting out of control. you will actually my brothers, you projected it. ok, i did, i did. i said to be tactical strikes. you know, i'm touch who strikes what exactly what you're interested and know, keep on doing it. but you know, where does this relationship go? so you know nothing. you know, who now is so desperate. the, what he's doing now is the same for his own people. look,
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the americans want to force a 2 state solution on to us. and that will probably means some sort of international peacekeeping kind of group of the various countries policing goals are for example, and that will be the end of us. and so vote for me because i'm the only one who's got the guts to actually stand up the button and say no. and that's now his election ronnie, you know, so i think um, he's really thrown down the gauntlet for bite and i hate to put money on by them. but i think in the longer term, when we talk about winners and losers, i think that's now is going to be the lose. i think you set yourself up to full. i . i tend to think like the end of the 1st world war, nobody expected. all the empires, the fall, the ones, but they did. okay. i think both will be losers here. but georgia is something new and i've used a lot is a name the cliche out there, the bumper sticker out there is de escalate. it's just the opposite. we're seeing
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enormous unless the. ready issue and this is something that works to me is release advantage because they're always going to call in the americans to pull their chestnuts out of the fire. that's the calculation here. any given within the hour has been saying recently, and we've already made reference to it here we was talking about, you know, we become less safe when we would, when we, after we went through from 11 to then you know that one should be totally off with you or something like that, okay, just to get you covered in the southern part of loving on again. and they have the be because the americans are paralyzed by their own, a verse understanding of what obligations it has to the state of israel as fairly as a well, it will end up doing what um, when do you have those? and the most far right wing government, they've ever had their george. yes i, i think so because of the united states is now so heavily invested in what is what it is doing, but it really can't get off. and i think that um,
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nothing. yeah. who realizes this, that's why he can just openly and speak like this in defiance of knowing that a lot of, of the americans will ring their hands and say, well, we're disappointed in this statement, but we're not actually going to do anything about that. i know you, yes, because of the democratic congressman to say, well we, we really need to look at what arms were sending the, you know, you know, maybe we should attack some conditions. what kind of conditions i mean you made on the ad will turn around. so yeah, well what we're going to do is we're going to take these zones. i'm going to kill as many people as we can with them. what are the conditions that you're looking for and the cost to ship them as i was at the last question. there are no other conditions, so we will be missing out on those of the votes of the for him in washington because he's got the most in washington. but does he have it in the israel? probably not. you know, martin, what are the interesting debates that have risen over the course of this conflict
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is the face of the captives in, in casa, and the highest from what i understand, the number of them are american and british citizens. ready citizens, what is the u. k, and what is the american government doing to help those citizens? or are we going to have that will be gonzalo lira doctrine of not caring about their own citizens because that's what it looks like to me. but it seems to me that then you have a government has no interest in those captives whatsoever. no, i think we're already there. i think that's sort of the case now. you know, because other literature episode of issue some of the, of used to know is, is a, an american chilion blogger who was based in ukraine and who was very well informed and was very critical of the crate and government and so on himself. the rest, it's fun himself thrown into prison. he was already ill with a complication long complications and was allowed to dollar to simply allow to die because he was really an inconvenient truth which kept annoying. let's kick about animal annoying, the americans, and this is a shame,
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a real shame on america that it can do that to one of his own citizens just because in a letter it was just a bloss on the landscape. he needed to be removed. so that's kind of made, it was mother. and i think the same thing is probably going to happen to the poor people of israel, is that they are very, very small number of people who are they are and then they can be written off. and part of the question, you know, i mean, the bigger picture here is, you know, how the political leads stay and how that controls us on this. and you know, who stays in po and with abiding, is really prepared to stand his ground. and this going to, i think the problem is these guys and have a friend. so what's the use of the full lot? yeah, that's 6. yeah. you know, the bible is vice presidents and the out of the city had towards the israeli government. george again, you know, we started out talking about the uselessness of europe and i compliment george for the title because that's what he came up with it. but it's again when it's all the
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leads driven by it, and that's counting the look toral success, which is policy that inspire give it towards donors. sorry daughter, especially the executive donors because he says that's what matches. and you know, we sold a power all of that, the israel law, they in the united states in which they, they, they got rid of 2 prominent university presidents and how, and how does that happen? well, because the powerful donors, the people who, who actually are these are prestigious universities depend on caved and the, you know, even says, hey, but this is a black one, you can find a black woman. yes, you can. when it comes to science is money that comes 1st and you know that that's what that message gets out, is the level that there's some of the things you cannot do and this up in steps either above. so the interest, but you cannot transgress as a, that's
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a doubt. anybody who's calculation. and then as far as your business on the account and counting on the fact that people are going to get tired of this, i'm going to get, you know, these are the, they going to get tired of the israel palestine issue and they'll go focus on something else and however useless they come across as you know, as their own hostages, they're not even able to do anything about the things we've all talked about here. i'll finish off the program. you know, we had in the 1st couple of weeks, we were outraged by the, the number of this. then we had children, women being 50 percent in the schools and then the aid workers and then the universe city this and there's no end to it. okay. if it was going to be an end to it, we would've been reach there. but now we uh, they've gotten people used to genocide. that's the age that we live in. okay. in social media gentlemen, that's all the time i have. i want to thank my guess americans and. ready best and of course i want to thank our viewers for watching us here at our dc and next time
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